You know what. I'll return new Moog Muse and get TEO-5! 🖤 Thanks for on-point deep dive and beaut demos! I love/need Oberheim sound and like TEO-5 even more than OB-X8, for those exact poly LFO, thru zero fm, while still with genuine SEM filter, modulating fx, etc. No, not saying/comparing Muse to TEO-5 or OB-X8. And I'm still hopeless moogacholic with Model D and Subsequent 37CV, they cover lots. Even when I had zero analog synths in my studio, always played OB-Xa Arturia, or SEM Arturia app, or OB-X spirit Korg Gadget. TEO-5 would add that charm into analogue synth collection with Moogs, ARP2600, Buchla 208c. Last but not least I really respect what Tom did here for synth lovers - charming, unique, and affordable Oberheim. Cheers!
@@devinbelangermusic Moog Muse is still on my table, while return window is closing. It's so good when I touch it! (not only good, but some chemistry happed). And I do want TEO-5! The struggle is real LOL
@@devinbelangermusic Maybe I just need to work more ..... that's what i do work-work-work 🤣and I have 3 more vid to enjoy from you (and that's only for TEO-5) 😎 Cheers very much and thanks!
Thanks for the deep dive on the TEO-5, very informative with tasteful music. Just got one last week and I’m a bit overwhelmed with the mod matrix and menu diving.
@@weave_of_k thanks! I try to keep my channel jams musically inspiring . Mod matrix tip. Start with lfo 1 as the source, amount at 50, and just cycle through every destination available to hear how each one affects your sound. You will learn what you like typically !
39:55 Thank you - I've watched a dozen TEO 5 videos and you are the only one that dares make a comparison with the UB-Xa. And my ears agree with you. The UB-Xa is sort of OK, but the TEO-5 nails the Oberheim sound that I love.
Loving all this TEO5 love Miles. You're probably the only RUclipsr that has the vision to get what a fantastic value this thing is. Next to the Minibrute, there simply isn't anything available today, for this price, that can do what this synth does.
Great synth and very good video, thanks! Received my Teo a couple of days ago, your video makes for a great introduction. The wobbling of your keyboard stand would drive me crazy 😵💫
Love you that pointed out the "shallow water" style slew pitch mod. That's actually I was hoping someone would demo, as it's one of my favorite tricks. If Sequential decides to hit us all with a 10 voice version of these, maybe even with an expanded keybed for somewhere in the ballpark of $3k, they would decimate a lot of what's out there. As it stands, the TEO5 is still an amazing synth.
Just FYI, the UB-Xa does have a mod matrix. 8 slot/buss, however you want to say it, 40+ (give or take) sources and about the same (give or take, not going to actually count them) destinations. It also has this interesting "Atrophy" settings that, just eying it in the manual, looks like 30+ parameters that change the way various parts of the synth behave. These can be saved with a patch. I've read it can do "Circuit bending" like stuff without actually doing so, but I haven't seen anyone demonstrate it so that's up in the air. It does not have a SEM filter, so that sound is def not there. It has a Curtis clone they make, I believe. It is supposed to be a souped up OB-Xa clone after all. I do agree the TEO-5 sounds better, (subjectively) but the UB in right hands does sound quite nice in it's own right, and is very capable of interesting sounds. Plus the 16 voices are a huge plus, especially when you're thinking in layer mode, essentially doubling everything but the voices., leaving you 8. 16 bus matrix? Hmmm, the desktop is 800 bones, but right now I see the PAT keys ver at a sale price of $888 at Alto Music and Reverb. Edit: Oh, I forgot to mention. There's some interesting modulated sources. One of them is called Butter I think, I saw it a while back so I may be wrong on the name, but it's basically a step mod. So illustrate, send that to panning, for example, and it will pan the stereo field 1 note/key at a time. It has others that do cool stuff, and they may have added some with the recent firmware update.
Mikes, you not only have increased my temptation to get this model but also to punctuate my 10-years-and-counting aversion to sequencers. Not saying that’ll happen per se, but I liked what you did here.
Love your video. I've got to correct you on something important. The ub-xa has 8 modulation matrix channels, and an extensive range of sources and destinations. Since I've got both the UB-XA and I've just received my Teo-5 I can vouch for both as ingenious synths.
Very nice demonstration! You briefly mentioned budget matrix series. From my own "investigation" that's not compareable with the TEO. When my last OB-8 started to die & I had tob recreate fave sounds with other gear, it became too obvious that "little" Matrix series 4-pole VCF never shines like a TEO or an OB(X)8.when fully turned up. It's no wonder that Oberheim achieved cult status thru 2-pole VCFs. 4poles others do better. Lil' matrix only have 10 slots but are still deep. LFOs are flexible but slow. There's soft & hard sync, VCF-FM & a quite UNuseful key click param. Unfortunately, ENV stages are totally linear.& slow. Since there's just one tracking generator, it is no longer available for other sources, if used to shape a decent ENV curve, unless you take that shaped source consciously for other destinations. In the meantime, budget matrix's OS has allegedly been fine-tuned by a third-party provider. I have to protect the UB-Xa a little bit. This not just has the entire OB8 Page 2 functionality but also a deep 8 slot mod matrix, as well as further improvments through a recent major update, such as loopable ENVs, a more opened VCF (than before) and other useful things like storage of perf. LFO & atrophy setting per patch & not to forget the 16 voices. I've not yet tried it but it reads promising.
@@Gerald_Daniel great insights! I’ve never played the matrix or ubxa so love to hear those details. Very cool they’ve added all that stuff to the UBXA behind the scenes, I’d love to review one
are you saying teo-5 envelopers are linear and slow? i cant tell if thats what youre saying or not, but if so, you can recursively modulate any stage of any eg with its own envelope in the matrix to make it exponential or linear. plus you can stack mod slots and use the dc mod source to push values well past their initial knob max value
I found the distortion effect was really useful, if you dial back the gain and use it more as a boost, which also gives a bit of a low pass effect as well. I was able to make the synth sound louder deeper and more 24db filter like with it.
The TEO-5 is exactly what Oberheim needed to do, and it totally delivers the sound that OB is known for. The partnership with Sequential is such a gift for us synth enthusiasts. I tried the TEO earlier this month alongside the X8, and I feel that it is 90% there (lacking some of the midrange warmth of the X8). The modulation capabilities are amazing, and the envelopes are significantly better than those on the OB-6 (with OB-8 envelope modeling). It has more headroom than the OB-6 and feels a bit more like a sweet spot machine, which is impressive considering it has more menu diving than the OB-6. I believe the Take and TEO-5 should be everyone’s first synth if they are serious about getting into the world of hardware. I hope Sequential/Oberheim creates a matrix homage, ideally using the Rev 2 platform and adding the matrix filter. (CEM 3372)
I think the TEO-5 has some flavor of the OBX8. But I don’t know if I could say it is 90% of the sound of an OBX8. My impression at first when I got it was that it was very rough sounding. It does not have that livelyness, fullness or space of the OBX8. Sounds a bit thin. Even through a tube amp with eq. The TEO-5 is a hybrid synth, and the benefit of it is the modulation over the OBX8. If you want a modern OB like sounds then the TEO-5 is the way to go . I ordered the OBX8 module. Already have a MUSE. I have not decided wether to return the TEO-5 and get something different. Summit, PEAK or hydrasynth.
Congrats on the new OB acquisitions! If I were you, I would get both the X8 and Teo 5. Sure, the X8 is a flagship model and the Teo is more of an entry point, but I view owning both as having two sides of a golden coin. The X8 has the mid-range magic that the golden era of polys was known for, and I think the Teo expands on that with more flexible modulation with a slight loss in the raw tone. I still stand by the 90% comparison between the X8 and the Teo. (Make sure when you compare both to have the X filter and the OB-8 envelopes set on the X8, and you will see what I mean.) In terms of the Teo being hybrid, the X8 is similar, minus the VCA. The envelopes and LFO are completely digitally controlled, and I think this is a major pro rather than a con in the modern synth design landscape.
so essentially no cons then (as everyone expected the FX would be awful from the get go lol) - some lovely sounds in your pack. Seriously tempted by this unit, I'd kind of written it off beforehand.
I had a longer cons section about only 5 voices and the distortion being a wasted knob when it should have been pan spread but it was really rambly and I felt like I covered that in the video! It’s a great synth. But those are my mini cons!
My only grievance is that they silkscreened the BPM/CLK/ARP/EFECTS on the display. Seems like something they would do on a 1985 kitchen microwave or handheld video game or the same decade.. But I'm petty. I'm sure it won't bother most.
Excellent video, if their poly lfo is digital, I wonder if they could offer a "lfo detune" setting in the menu that would allow you to spread the rate of the poly lfos between the voice cards.
I noticed you avoided a direct comparison with the OB-6, a point you usually emphasize. Will you keep both? Why or why not? I played around with the TEO-5 at Superbooth, and found it a sweet sounding synth with a lot of great features. But after a few layers of complexity, the sound begins to feel less analog, and is probably more similar sonically to VA synthesis... even a bit sterile. I suppose that can be avoided by keeping things simple, if you're aiming for a more vintage sound.
You're starting to convince me i need a TEO-5. But i already have the OB-8X, Matrix-1000 and Xpander. Would it be an addition soundwise? Please say no! 😅
@@Timecop1983 LOL. That’s an even better OB collection than me. Based on what you have the only thing I would say for the TEO-5 is the TZFM is pretty cool for really distorted rough sounds. Otherwise your lineup covers it all !
It doesn't.... since you didn't keep the OB-6 the extra modulation options on the TEO-5 will not make a big difference for you. It doesn't expand your sonic palette that much. It's more like a mini OBX8 with the modulation options of the OB-6 (well not completely but give or take). I think seeing your synths a TAKE 5 would make more sense over a TEO-5.
You can modulate the fx which is really cool, Miles did a nice break down of the OBX8, OB6 and TEO 5. To my ears, the TEO 5 is amazing value for money, especially when you consider how little space it takes up too.
Thank you for this awesome video! I'm loving my TEO 5 so far and this helped me learn even more :-) A few questions.....#1 How do you get your custom patches on the synth? I don't currently have a DAW and figured that's probably how but any other suggestions? #2.....I commented on another of your TEO videos and asked if you had any tips about how to get a reverse reverb effect like what you might hear in Shoegaze music and you said it uses the Aux envelope but wondering if you can expand on that...if you have time of course. Thank you for your hard work!
Hello Miles, I'm putting together a new home studio, but really on the fence between a PRO 3 and the TEO 5. Different beasts yes, but what I feel the TEO will be capable of yet no review really goes deep into, is how deep the modulation matrix gets on the TEO 5. Can it go bonkers as the PRO 3? I'd prefer the TEO 5 for the 5 Oberheim voices and SEM filter - it would combine perfectly with my REV 2!
You might have to try the Take 5 as well if you haven't already. The OB-6 took over the number one spot in my studio (with 6 Sequential synths), but the Take 5 is my solid number 2 and I love them both together in my tunes. The Take 5 modulation options and filter are just awesome, just like with this TEO-5. The Take 5 is the reason I would love to have a TEO-5 and I will.
Also, you should consider selling a related product that breaks down how you programmed the sounds. Would take very little additional effort and squeeze further revenue from the work.
I wonder how close does it actually performs at recreating those famous OB-xa/Ob-8 lovely pads. I would buy an OB for just for that alone. Not particularly interested in single notes types of sounds.
@@devinbelangermusic Thanks for the update! Feel free to drop it even sooner haha it's my favorite modern synth so I'm stoked to hear what you bring out of it
great video as always brother! can you recommend any good multi synth stands? been trying to get my prophet 600, teo-5, and mother 32 on one stand haha
@@maxatomico8784 I did a full OB comparison did you see that? The Teo is quite different to the ob-6. It’s more like a mini obx8 mixed with a take 5. If you like the take 5 you will like this
'fairly thin but rich (sounding oscillators)" - Which synths sound thicker of the other modern Oberheim's / Sequential / Other synths you have or tried? Thanks
I wonder if you have a moment to advise me. How do you feel this compares to the classic Oberheims in terms of ‘analog sound?’ Sorry if that sounds like a naive or silly question, but I bought and was disappointed by the Take 5, finding that it sounded much more ‘digital’ and modern than I wanted/expected. I’m not a programmer-type. I’m more involved with guitars but wanted a hardware synth for composing music with 80s-90s sensibilities. You’re making this sound much better than the other demos I’ve heard, which remind me of the Take 5, unfortunately.
I'm enjoying the fact a synth look/review actually has some musical playing ability, contrary to almost all of youtube. How is the keybed --- is it a Fatar?
@@devinbelangermusic good! So no need for me to switch Synths. I have the OB6 and OBX8. All my Oberheim needs are covered but I was wondering if it would make sense selling the X8 and replacing it with a TEO5 because it’s more versatile. I don’t necessarily need the most complex modulation possibilities but I want the best sound😁 I have other tools for creative modulation possibilities. Appreciate your opinion. Thanks and cheers from Germany
Love the price. It's an Oberheim with a mod matrix and SEM filter. For some reason it just doesn't sound thick. Get's wide and really close just missing that last 10%. The OB-X8 can make your mouth open and say WOW! OB-6 can do it as well just not as often. Still think it's an amazing instrument, I just want that wow factor.
Deckards dream video??? I'd rather have the obx8 desktop, sounds "more" oberheim, has real saturation, pairs better with my 3rd wave D. Deckards dream vs Teo 5, both are $1500!
I really appreciate your videos. I like you showcasing what this can do. Being inspired by a synth is never a scam.
Green eggs and scam...
@@rgeraldc80s thank you!!
To be fair, some manufacturers could stand to be more forthright and transparent about the complete architecture of some of their synths …
@@kierenmoore3236 yeah sure buddy, you're always crying about Loopop too, must be a rAdeladian thing.
@@DankePlace Did loopop start manufacturing synthesizers? What does where I was born have to do with it? Creepy stalker troll guy is creepy. 👹
You know what. I'll return new Moog Muse and get TEO-5! 🖤 Thanks for on-point deep dive and beaut demos!
I love/need Oberheim sound and like TEO-5 even more than OB-X8, for those exact poly LFO, thru zero fm, while still with genuine SEM filter, modulating fx, etc.
No, not saying/comparing Muse to TEO-5 or OB-X8. And I'm still hopeless moogacholic with Model D and Subsequent 37CV, they cover lots. Even when I had zero analog synths in my studio, always played OB-Xa Arturia, or SEM Arturia app, or OB-X spirit Korg Gadget. TEO-5 would add that charm into analogue synth collection with Moogs, ARP2600, Buchla 208c.
Last but not least I really respect what Tom did here for synth lovers - charming, unique, and affordable Oberheim. Cheers!
@@samprock thanks so much for watching! Did you end up getting a TEO?
@@devinbelangermusic Moog Muse is still on my table, while return window is closing. It's so good when I touch it! (not only good, but some chemistry happed). And I do want TEO-5! The struggle is real LOL
@@devinbelangermusic Maybe I just need to work more ..... that's what i do work-work-work 🤣and I have 3 more vid to enjoy from you (and that's only for TEO-5) 😎 Cheers very much and thanks!
Great demo and walkthrough Miles! Man, the TEO-5 sounds great. Definitely keeping it on my radar!
Thanks man! Love your channel :)
Thanks for the deep dive on the TEO-5, very informative with tasteful music. Just got one last week and I’m a bit overwhelmed with the mod matrix and menu diving.
@@weave_of_k thanks! I try to keep my channel jams musically inspiring . Mod matrix tip. Start with lfo 1 as the source, amount at 50, and just cycle through every destination available to hear how each one affects your sound. You will learn what you like typically !
39:55 Thank you - I've watched a dozen TEO 5 videos and you are the only one that dares make a comparison with the UB-Xa. And my ears agree with you. The UB-Xa is sort of OK, but the TEO-5 nails the Oberheim sound that I love.
Glad you agree! I still would love to review the UB-Xa, hopefully can find a review unit / loaner
Loving all this TEO5 love Miles. You're probably the only RUclipsr that has the vision to get what a fantastic value this thing is. Next to the Minibrute, there simply isn't anything available today, for this price, that can do what this synth does.
Thank you and well said!
I gotta say...your patches sound amazing on this thing. I have an ob6...your putting me to the test to sell that one for this one 😁
Great as always, brother. And love the track! So good 👊🏻
@@JimDaneker thanks Jim!!
Great synth and very good video, thanks! Received my Teo a couple of days ago, your video makes for a great introduction. The wobbling of your keyboard stand would drive me crazy 😵💫
Congrats its a great synth! And a stand upgrade is well overdue LOL
Totally agree about the mod matrix. The OB-X8 with that mod matrix would be unstoppable.
Love you that pointed out the "shallow water" style slew pitch mod. That's actually I was hoping someone would demo, as it's one of my favorite tricks. If Sequential decides to hit us all with a 10 voice version of these, maybe even with an expanded keybed for somewhere in the ballpark of $3k, they would decimate a lot of what's out there. As it stands, the TEO5 is still an amazing synth.
@@glennweber9290 agreed on all counts! Thanks for watching :)
Great demo, kudos for your work
Thank you kindly!
Just FYI, the UB-Xa does have a mod matrix. 8 slot/buss, however you want to say it, 40+ (give or take) sources and about the same (give or take, not going to actually count them) destinations. It also has this interesting "Atrophy" settings that, just eying it in the manual, looks like 30+ parameters that change the way various parts of the synth behave. These can be saved with a patch. I've read it can do "Circuit bending" like stuff without actually doing so, but I haven't seen anyone demonstrate it so that's up in the air.
It does not have a SEM filter, so that sound is def not there. It has a Curtis clone they make, I believe. It is supposed to be a souped up OB-Xa clone after all.
I do agree the TEO-5 sounds better, (subjectively) but the UB in right hands does sound quite nice in it's own right, and is very capable of interesting sounds. Plus the 16 voices are a huge plus, especially when you're thinking in layer mode, essentially doubling everything but the voices., leaving you 8. 16 bus matrix? Hmmm, the desktop is 800 bones, but right now I see the PAT keys ver at a sale price of $888 at Alto Music and Reverb.
Edit: Oh, I forgot to mention. There's some interesting modulated sources. One of them is called Butter I think, I saw it a while back so I may be wrong on the name, but it's basically a step mod. So illustrate, send that to panning, for example, and it will pan the stereo field 1 note/key at a time. It has others that do cool stuff, and they may have added some with the recent firmware update.
@@EnervatedSociety thanks for the correction! I need to find one to review
@@devinbelangermusic No problem. It's a nice enough synth, especially for the money, but I'm happy with my X8. 😉
Really nice demo track!
@@davidallanmusic thanks David!
@@devinbelangermusic You're welcome!
I thought you were covering Eutow by Autechre at the beginning of the video 😂. I love this synth. Great video!
I love autechre, high praise! Everything I play is usually just improvised so it’s funny when I accidentally do something subconsciously similar 😂
Totes a dream synth atm. seems portavke too whic is just so rad! Love your videos man. Stoked for the next one
Portavke is always a good rging! ;)
@@indigosnow_ thanks!!
Some lovely patches and a very cool review. Nice synth stand full of Obies you have there!
@@nickynocknoo thanks so much!
Mikes, you not only have increased my temptation to get this model but also to punctuate my 10-years-and-counting aversion to sequencers. Not saying that’ll happen per se, but I liked what you did here.
@@Shred_The_Weapon thank you! I don’t love most sequencers either honestly, I like only specific ones
Love your video.
I've got to correct you on something important.
The ub-xa has 8 modulation matrix channels, and an extensive range of sources and destinations.
Since I've got both the UB-XA and I've just received my Teo-5 I can vouch for both as ingenious synths.
@@Producer4Realz thanks for the correction!
The Rev 2 also has the mod matrix approach of the Pro 2. I love its ease of use.
I am diving in to a loaner Rev 2 as we speak!
Incredible video, incredible synth 🔥
Thanks Daniel!
Very nice demonstration! You briefly mentioned budget matrix series. From my own "investigation" that's not compareable with the TEO. When my last OB-8 started to die & I had tob recreate fave sounds with other gear, it became too obvious that "little" Matrix series 4-pole VCF never shines like a TEO or an OB(X)8.when fully turned up. It's no wonder that Oberheim achieved cult status thru 2-pole VCFs. 4poles others do better.
Lil' matrix only have 10 slots but are still deep. LFOs are flexible but slow. There's soft & hard sync, VCF-FM & a quite UNuseful key click param.
Unfortunately, ENV stages are totally linear.& slow. Since there's just one tracking generator, it is no longer available for other sources, if used to shape a decent ENV curve, unless you take that shaped source consciously for other destinations. In the meantime, budget matrix's OS has allegedly been fine-tuned by a third-party provider.
I have to protect the UB-Xa a little bit. This not just has the entire OB8 Page 2 functionality but also a deep 8 slot mod matrix, as well as further improvments through a recent major update, such as loopable ENVs, a more opened VCF (than before) and other useful things like storage of perf. LFO & atrophy setting per patch & not to forget the 16 voices. I've not yet tried it but it reads promising.
@@Gerald_Daniel great insights! I’ve never played the matrix or ubxa so love to hear those details. Very cool they’ve added all that stuff to the UBXA behind the scenes, I’d love to review one
are you saying teo-5 envelopers are linear and slow? i cant tell if thats what youre saying or not, but if so, you can recursively modulate any stage of any eg with its own envelope in the matrix to make it exponential or linear. plus you can stack mod slots and use the dc mod source to push values well past their initial knob max value
@@devinbelangermusic ...& I'd love too see your review.
@@christdolphin69! ..to completely prevent future doubts, I'm going to edit it now, though Devin's ❤️-emoji is lost afterwards.🥺
I found the distortion effect was really useful, if you dial back the gain and use it more as a boost, which also gives a bit of a low pass effect as well. I was able to make the synth sound louder deeper and more 24db filter like with it.
cool tip, love to hear this!
Beautiful playing and great sound design, will have to pick this up when I get a TEO5 soon. =)
@@atomicasounds thank you so much for supporting!!
Great video! Just FYI, getting to an initial patch only needs octave down and low split down. Not both octave buttons. Just two fingers needed.
you only have to press bottom octave and -2 to init patch. :)
The TEO-5 is exactly what Oberheim needed to do, and it totally delivers the sound that OB is known for. The partnership with Sequential is such a gift for us synth enthusiasts. I tried the TEO earlier this month alongside the X8, and I feel that it is 90% there (lacking some of the midrange warmth of the X8). The modulation capabilities are amazing, and the envelopes are significantly better than those on the OB-6 (with OB-8 envelope modeling). It has more headroom than the OB-6 and feels a bit more like a sweet spot machine, which is impressive considering it has more menu diving than the OB-6. I believe the Take and TEO-5 should be everyone’s first synth if they are serious about getting into the world of hardware. I hope Sequential/Oberheim creates a matrix homage, ideally using the Rev 2 platform and adding the matrix filter. (CEM 3372)
Not so sure about those envelopes or sweet spots, but a next-gen Matrix synth could be very cool. 😎👍🏼
A matrix homage would be so sweet! Love that idea and agree with a lot of your thoughts!
I think the TEO-5 has some flavor of the OBX8. But I don’t know if I could say it is 90% of the sound of an OBX8.
My impression at first when I got it was that it was very rough sounding. It does not have that livelyness, fullness or space of the OBX8. Sounds a bit thin. Even through a tube amp with eq.
The TEO-5 is a hybrid synth, and the benefit of it is the modulation over the OBX8.
If you want a modern OB like sounds then the TEO-5 is the way to go . I ordered the OBX8 module. Already have a MUSE. I have not decided wether to return the TEO-5 and get something different. Summit, PEAK or hydrasynth.
Congrats on the new OB acquisitions! If I were you, I would get both the X8 and Teo 5. Sure, the X8 is a flagship model and the Teo is more of an entry point, but I view owning both as having two sides of a golden coin. The X8 has the mid-range magic that the golden era of polys was known for, and I think the Teo expands on that with more flexible modulation with a slight loss in the raw tone. I still stand by the 90% comparison between the X8 and the Teo. (Make sure when you compare both to have the X filter and the OB-8 envelopes set on the X8, and you will see what I mean.) In terms of the Teo being hybrid, the X8 is similar, minus the VCA. The envelopes and LFO are completely digitally controlled, and I think this is a major pro rather than a con in the modern synth design landscape.
That filter sweep was suhweeeet sheesh.
So good!
You make it sound great
That's a real nice piano sound!
@@bicycleninja1685 thanks!!!
Damn… that F-10 lead is so good.
2 grand here in Canada! Not bad.
It does leads honestly so well! Basses too. Its definitely priced fairly vs other synths, though still not cheap!
so essentially no cons then (as everyone expected the FX would be awful from the get go lol) - some lovely sounds in your pack. Seriously tempted by this unit, I'd kind of written it off beforehand.
I had a longer cons section about only 5 voices and the distortion being a wasted knob when it should have been pan spread but it was really rambly and I felt like I covered that in the video! It’s a great synth. But those are my mini cons!
Sounds great! Have you been able to recreate the famous OB-6 007 patch on the TEO?
@@dotlikeimpact yes! More or less, check out the sound demo at the end of this. “Broken TEO Piano” is my recreation of 007
My only grievance is that they silkscreened the BPM/CLK/ARP/EFECTS on the display. Seems like something they would do on a 1985 kitchen microwave or handheld video game or the same decade.. But I'm petty. I'm sure it won't bother most.
There's a PWM shortcut too. Just hold the pulse selector then turn the PW knob. :)
@@wintermute9000 great tip!!
Excellent video, if their poly lfo is digital, I wonder if they could offer a "lfo detune" setting in the menu that would allow you to spread the rate of the poly lfos between the voice cards.
@@thehillbillysynthesist you can! Random and keyboard tracking are both mod sources.
Yes the Matrix had a mod matrix (hence the name). I’m getting a TEO-5 to go with my Take 5.
Enjoy it!! And thanks for confirming
@@devinbelangermusicso I actually bought a UB-Xa, what a mistake. I sent it back and have a TEO-5 on the way.
I noticed you avoided a direct comparison with the OB-6, a point you usually emphasize. Will you keep both? Why or why not?
I played around with the TEO-5 at Superbooth, and found it a sweet sounding synth with a lot of great features. But after a few layers of complexity, the sound begins to feel less analog, and is probably more similar sonically to VA synthesis... even a bit sterile. I suppose that can be avoided by keeping things simple, if you're aiming for a more vintage sound.
@@tripkovsky check out my full comparison video with the ob6 and obx8! I prefer the ob6 over both personally
You're starting to convince me i need a TEO-5. But i already have the OB-8X, Matrix-1000 and Xpander. Would it be an addition soundwise? Please say no! 😅
lol
You don’t need it but you definitely need it
@@Timecop1983 LOL. That’s an even better OB collection than me. Based on what you have the only thing I would say for the TEO-5 is the TZFM is pretty cool for really distorted rough sounds. Otherwise your lineup covers it all !
It doesn't.... since you didn't keep the OB-6 the extra modulation options on the TEO-5 will not make a big difference for you. It doesn't expand your sonic palette that much. It's more like a mini OBX8 with the modulation options of the OB-6 (well not completely but give or take). I think seeing your synths a TAKE 5 would make more sense over a TEO-5.
You can modulate the fx which is really cool, Miles did a nice break down of the OBX8, OB6 and TEO 5. To my ears, the TEO 5 is amazing value for money, especially when you consider how little space it takes up too.
Thank you for this awesome video! I'm loving my TEO 5 so far and this helped me learn even more :-) A few questions.....#1 How do you get your custom patches on the synth? I don't currently have a DAW and figured that's probably how but any other suggestions? #2.....I commented on another of your TEO videos and asked if you had any tips about how to get a reverse reverb effect like what you might hear in Shoegaze music and you said it uses the Aux envelope but wondering if you can expand on that...if you have time of course. Thank you for your hard work!
I downloaded and used midi ox to send custom patches to my TEO. No DAW needed.
@@ThisWorldNeedzaHero thanks for the advice!
Hello Miles, I'm putting together a new home studio, but really on the fence between a PRO 3 and the TEO 5. Different beasts yes, but what I feel the TEO will be capable of yet no review really goes deep into, is how deep the modulation matrix gets on the TEO 5. Can it go bonkers as the PRO 3? I'd prefer the TEO 5 for the 5 Oberheim voices and SEM filter - it would combine perfectly with my REV 2!
Haven't tried the Pro3 sorry! But TEO-5 goes crazy with xmod, but lacks good distortion
You might have to try the Take 5 as well if you haven't already. The OB-6 took over the number one spot in my studio (with 6 Sequential synths), but the Take 5 is my solid number 2 and I love them both together in my tunes. The Take 5 modulation options and filter are just awesome, just like with this TEO-5. The Take 5 is the reason I would love to have a TEO-5 and I will.
@@brianlespoir6287 im gonna review the take 5 next month stay tuned!!
Miles, would you consider getting and trying a Behringer Ubxa?
@@ageshero yes! My synth purchase money is limited right now so I’m looking for one to borrow locally or rent!
Also, you should consider selling a related product that breaks down how you programmed the sounds. Would take very little additional effort and squeeze further revenue from the work.
I have considered doing a synth sound design course, so I appreciate this feedback!
I wonder how close does it actually performs at recreating those famous OB-xa/Ob-8 lovely pads. I would buy an OB for just for that alone. Not particularly interested in single notes types of sounds.
did you see my comparison against the OB-X8 and 6?
I'm looking forward to the Deckards Dream video. Any update on when that's dropping?
@@nicohollomanbiz next week! I just switched the order with this one based on requests and lots of TEO-5 questions
@@devinbelangermusic Thanks for the update! Feel free to drop it even sooner haha it's my favorite modern synth so I'm stoked to hear what you bring out of it
Wow 😲
great video as always brother! can you recommend any good multi synth stands? been trying to get my prophet 600, teo-5, and mother 32 on one stand haha
I get asked that a lot but the one i have was randomly bought off craigslist with no brand name on it, sorry!
I have the TAKE 5 and I have always dreamed of the OB6. Do you think adding the TEO is ridiculous or selling the TAKE to buy the TEo is more correct?
@@maxatomico8784 I did a full OB comparison did you see that? The Teo is quite different to the ob-6. It’s more like a mini obx8 mixed with a take 5. If you like the take 5 you will like this
@@devinbelangermusic For me it means that a TEO 5 alongside the TAKE 5 is useless
how easy is it to download presets? havnt hooked my up to daw yet still trying figure it put only played it once yet though
It's not too bad, instructions in the manual but you need a free Sysex editor app for pc or mac
great video! what do you think of the moog matriarch?
@@tendingtropic7778 I have a matriarch video from a couple months ago, check it out!
Such a great demo! For the patches, which bank do they load into?
@@maedaej thanks! User E F G :)
@@devinbelangermusic sweet thanks!!
How well does it fit in a mix? Because it sounds beautiful and full but that sometimes doesn't translate well when playing with other instruments.
@@luisbarrera5740 pretty well honestly! The brightness it can get to helps cut through . Still harder to mix than a Prophet
@@devinbelangermusic thank you for the insight. Apologies but I have 1 last question. Considering an obx8 module. How well does that one sit in a mix?
@@luisbarrera5740super late reply but OB6 sits in the mix the best of the 3, Prophet 6 is the easiest synth to mix in I’ve ever owned though
'fairly thin but rich (sounding oscillators)" - Which synths sound thicker of the other modern Oberheim's / Sequential / Other synths you have or tried? Thanks
I probably misspoke! Meant that when you enable all the waveforms it gets thin. The oscs on this are super solid. About as good as Korg Prologue
is the teo 5 something completely different than the obx8? worth having both or can the obx8 do what the teo5 can?
@@michaelbevel8539 check out my full length comparison, recent video on this channel!
I wonder if you have a moment to advise me. How do you feel this compares to the classic Oberheims in terms of ‘analog sound?’ Sorry if that sounds like a naive or silly question, but I bought and was disappointed by the Take 5, finding that it sounded much more ‘digital’ and modern than I wanted/expected. I’m not a programmer-type. I’m more involved with guitars but wanted a hardware synth for composing music with 80s-90s sensibilities. You’re making this sound much better than the other demos I’ve heard, which remind me of the Take 5, unfortunately.
@@CentaurusRelax314 you are in luck! I did a 45 min comparison with the OBX8 and OB6, check my recent videos! I answer this in detail!
How different is it to the Take 5 ? They look very similar.
Completely different filter! I will be doing a Take 5 review soon, got a loaner unit coming
is that delay at 47.50 also from the teo-5? doeesnt sound bad at all!
@@tendingtropic7778 yep! It’s solid in some scenarios for sure
I'm enjoying the fact a synth look/review actually has some musical playing ability, contrary to almost all of youtube.
How is the keybed --- is it a Fatar?
yeah Fatar
@@jwalkermed FATAR where you can do splits, either in 1 or 2 octaves, 44 keys isn't as redundant as some complain, especially for 5 voices.
@@sabamacx thank you! I try my best to keep the reviews musical :) and yea keybed is great, fatar
@@DankePlace yeah I have a take 5 which is the same keybed i believe
@@jwalkermed Yeah I have the T5 too, it is the same keybed.
This one or the Take-5 for a a synth noob?
Take 5 = more versatile, TEO-5 = nicer sounding (imho)
Lmao 😂 2 oscilators- wildly
Would you rather have the TEO5 or the OBX8?
In case you can only have one;)
obx8 easily!
@@devinbelangermusic good! So no need for me to switch Synths. I have the OB6 and OBX8. All my Oberheim needs are covered but I was wondering if it would make sense selling the X8 and replacing it with a TEO5 because it’s more versatile. I don’t necessarily need the most complex modulation possibilities but I want the best sound😁
I have other tools for creative modulation possibilities.
Appreciate your opinion.
Thanks and cheers from Germany
@@timherrmann3508 id keep what you have! My pleasure!
Where are the drum tracks coming from ?
@@timjoseph887 drums added in logic after!
Double the polyphony at least, and make it 61 poly AT keys and I’m there. It’s the OB I have always wanted….almost.
Does it run midi and midi cc over usb ?
yep!
Love the price. It's an Oberheim with a mod matrix and SEM filter. For some reason it just doesn't sound thick. Get's wide and really close just missing that last 10%. The OB-X8 can make your mouth open and say WOW! OB-6 can do it as well just not as often. Still think it's an amazing instrument, I just want that wow factor.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Deckards dream video??? I'd rather have the obx8 desktop, sounds "more" oberheim, has real saturation, pairs better with my 3rd wave D. Deckards dream vs Teo 5, both are $1500!
It’s coming next week! Just switched the order with this one cause so many people kept asking me where my teo5 review was 😂
Decakrds Dream $1500? Isn’t that the pre-order? The MK2 goes for 4K
@@justaregularrobloxplayer5678 yea when it's available, pre order is only 1500
You were scamed
@@jumpingman8160 😅😂
Explain! 👁️