Nice program. Pidgin English started in the Niger delta in pre colonial days. When the Portuguese traders came to trade with the various kingdoms and city states, there was a communication problem. To solve it, our ancestors started mixing some Portuguese and later English words ( when the Brits started coming) with local words. Thats how pidgin evolved. Its the reason for some Portuguese words in pidgin like sabi, dash, chop, sabato etc. The original pidgin English is from Delta state esp Warri and Sapele axis- it was from there it spread to the rest of Nigeria When Warri and Sapele people speak pidgin, other Nigerians dont understand most of it cos its quite distinct and funnier too
No clear history of where pidgin started from. Yes its common in the Southern part of Nigeria, but no one state or region in Southern Nigeria can claim it's origin as all states have their own unique accent and style. Eg Delta and Edo have a similar style and accent, Rivers and Bayelsa have a similar style and accent, Akwa Ibom and Cross River have their own style and accent. Same goes for Lagos and Western Nigeria in general, as well as the SE.
@shemovrere7431 Can you give us your proof or you are just saying what you feel? I want evidence based stuff that's well documented, not from hearsay or how you feel.
Pidgin english originated from bendel state which is now edo state and delta state It dates back to 15th century,when the Portuguese try to colonise Nigeria but failed until the britist came and succeeded Pidgin originated from sapele(an area in delta state)and spread to warri,benin now Pidgin english is not just a strong lingua franca but also a national treasure
Baba 70 is the one that made Nigerians pidgin English enter the world with his Afrobeat music,different states in wth their tongues of speaking pidgin English but the one known worldwide is the pidgin English spoke mainly by Lagosians Kudos to Baba 70. Shalom
Pidgin English started from the defunct Bendel State, with Benin City as the headquarters. Other towns like Warri, Sapele, Uromi, Ekpoma, Ughelli etc developed their own variants. The pidgin that was spoken here is more like that of the west, Lagos, ogun, etc. If an Edo or Delta person speak the real konk pidgin, other Nigerians will find it hard to understand. Love ❤️ 9ja pidgin
Exactly. I am from Delta State and you are very correct. In Delta State alone, there are many tribes and we can't understand each other. Pidgin English is the only language that helps us understand each other easily.
Pidgin English was brought to Nigeria by Christian missionaries from Sierra Leone led by Samuel AJAYi Crowder and his crew . They did their missionary work mostly in the southern part of Nigeria such as Lagos,Niger delta , Onitsha and Calabar . The reason pidgin is spoken in Cameroon is because the southern part used to be part of Nigeria .
Pikin - Piqueno - child It started with incorporating some Portuguese words with local dialects and later on English That’s why we still have Portuguese words or Portuguese derived words as well as Other languages today the main influences are now English and Yoruba but before then it was mostly Portuguese and Edo/bini, Ijaw languages. It keeps evolving.
Pidging no dey go anywhere, baba na Pidging dey threating the spread of English! look am well na, more than 200 mill Nigerians plus millions of west Africans dey speak only Pidgin and their mama language, while english na only few dey speak am. And Pidgin dey spreading like wild fire across the globe too, because of our music. So oga, tell me na, who be the threat here! Most Nigerians will rather speak Pidging than english. There you go! E dey better we dey speak our own unified language than the colonial masters language. Dis na the first step to real freedom. And when we dey talk about standardization of Pidging, dat one na simple tin na, e go happen, you go see!! another tin, una need to dey stop say pidging be broken english. Pidgin no be broken english, Pidgin na new language way dey develope. Every english speaking person way no come from west Africa fit understand broken english, but dey not fit understand pidgin. because pidging get different structure and new word they no fit understand = new language. Oga, I dey speak 5 different language, so i no wetin a dey talk. Pidgin na new language way dey develope.
u are not right. pigin started as a result of the transaction with the Portugal. and Portugal started dealing with Benin Kingdom which Warri and Sapele were part of. learn the right thing Man
Its not a different language it is just an English dialect. It evolved ultimately from coast English so is similar to other dialects with the same history like in Sierra Leone or Ghana.
It's a different language. These Pidgins can be looked at as different dialects of the same new language (though they're not) but they definitely aren't the same language as English. The equivalent would be to say that Spanish, French, Italian, Portuguese and Romanian are the same language as Latin, they clearly are not
@Huhn-Bruh There's dialects in England more difficult for people to understand that are still considered English to I will maintain that it is just a different dialect.
@ikengaspirit3063 Comprehensibility doesn't determine if it's a different language, that's usually just the results of accents. What makes it a separate are the rules of grammar. So again, because Spanish, Italian and Portuguese speakers can understand each other and hold conversations does make them not different languages?
@Huhn-Bruh while Italians and Spaniards can understand words, a monolingual person in one cannot understand the other. I think it is the same between Portuguese and Spanish due to some Hispanic America vs Brazil understanding issues but I can't be sure. That said, you are right that grammar matters more but using some comparison between Ebonics and Pidgin and Ebonics and English dialects in Great Britain, it becomes clear that many(but not all, obviously) of the new grammatic rules of Pidgin occur in English dialects. I guess because part of the creolization process is simplification and simplification would have occured already in dialects of the base language already.
@ikengaspirit3063 Monolingual Spanish, Italian and Portuguese speakers can definitely understand each other enough to hold moderate conversations when spoken slower paced. In the USA even people from the North may have trouble understanding people from the South using the exact same words and grammar because of accents. So to say Pidgin, Jamaican Patois, Haitian Creole are just dialects of colonial languages then the same must be applied to the colonial languages that are Creoles of Latin
So as we kill our mother language and promote pigeon language is good😂😂😂 You all never mean well for the continent Is obvious But sometimes even if you hate people just pretend sometimes and promote truth.
Una deh mad. No be language of blood and tears, language they were forced to learn as slaves from all tribes and different languages & they want to communicate among themselves and with their masters, that’s how platoi in Jamaican and the creole and haiti language was formed. Repent from your ways & love others with different colors, ask for forgive from what your ancestors do, end is near
Exactly. The language is kind a protest language, a way for the natives of different tribes to speak amongst themselves, but without the colonial masters understanding what was being said. I'm quite annoyed that the BBC have taken this up at all. It's non-ya! Non-ya business!
Your point is baseless because English alone is a slave language. We couldn't speak English perfectly so we had to construct pidgin English for our social understanding as a slave... English itself is a slave language and not pidgin if you must say. So stop beating yourself over nothing. Just rest my brother.
Naija's musician Fela Kuti really popularised pidgin English worldwide
Nice program. Pidgin English started in the Niger delta in pre colonial days.
When the Portuguese traders came to trade with the various kingdoms and city states, there was a communication problem. To solve it, our ancestors started mixing some Portuguese and later English words ( when the Brits started coming) with local words. Thats how pidgin evolved.
Its the reason for some Portuguese words in pidgin like sabi, dash, chop, sabato etc.
The original pidgin English is from Delta state esp Warri and Sapele axis- it was from there it spread to the rest of Nigeria
When Warri and Sapele people speak pidgin, other Nigerians dont understand most of it cos its quite distinct and funnier too
It started from defunct Bendel state which comprises Delta state and Edo state of today.
No clear history of where pidgin started from. Yes its common in the Southern part of Nigeria, but no one state or region in Southern Nigeria can claim it's origin as all states have their own unique accent and style. Eg Delta and Edo have a similar style and accent, Rivers and Bayelsa have a similar style and accent, Akwa Ibom and Cross River have their own style and accent. Same goes for Lagos and Western Nigeria in general, as well as the SE.
@@ekinematicsyou are absolutely wrong when it comes to origin
It actually started from the warri sapele axis of the mid west
@shemovrere7431 Can you give us your proof or you are just saying what you feel? I want evidence based stuff that's well documented, not from hearsay or how you feel.
Pidgin started before those regions. The credit for popularity started with Fela Kuti and some other musicians.
Pidgin english originated from bendel state which is now edo state and delta state
It dates back to 15th century,when the Portuguese try to colonise Nigeria but failed until the britist came and succeeded
Pidgin originated from sapele(an area in delta state)and spread to warri,benin now
Pidgin english is not just a strong lingua franca but also a national treasure
Well as a Nigerian we have lots of slangs in every state...well ...e no get where e reach...na we no b dem...😊
Baba 70 is the one that made Nigerians pidgin English enter the world with his Afrobeat music,different states in wth their tongues of speaking pidgin English but the one known worldwide is the pidgin English spoke mainly by Lagosians Kudos to Baba 70.
Shalom
Pidgin English started from the defunct Bendel State, with Benin City as the headquarters. Other towns like Warri, Sapele, Uromi, Ekpoma, Ughelli etc developed their own variants. The pidgin that was spoken here is more like that of the west, Lagos, ogun, etc. If an Edo or Delta person speak the real konk pidgin, other Nigerians will find it hard to understand. Love ❤️ 9ja pidgin
Exactly. I am from Delta State and you are very correct. In Delta State alone, there are many tribes and we can't understand each other. Pidgin English is the only language that helps us understand each other easily.
And "konk" means strong in Nigerian Pidgin English.
Pidgin English was brought to Nigeria by Christian missionaries from Sierra Leone led by Samuel AJAYi Crowder and his crew . They did their missionary work mostly in the southern part of Nigeria such as Lagos,Niger delta , Onitsha and Calabar . The reason pidgin is spoken in Cameroon is because the southern part used to be part of Nigeria .
Tell me you're stupid without telling me you were the first person in your family without a tail 😂😂😂 OMO ale yamayama
Wow
I love pidgin English a lot
💚🤍💚
Another milestone in the evolution of Nigerian Pidgin English is the translation of the Bible to NPE
Really nice video
Thanks a lot
Pikin - Piqueno - child
It started with incorporating some Portuguese words with local dialects and later on English
That’s why we still have Portuguese words or Portuguese derived words as well as Other languages today the main influences are now English and Yoruba but before then it was mostly Portuguese and Edo/bini, Ijaw languages.
It keeps evolving.
u are very correct
Na Warri be di headquarters of pidgin English o.
Dis wan nobodi fit drag am wit dem o.
Na benin edo state
Na Delta State but back then we were still called Bendel. @@PreciousIgunma
Where the Portuguese and English pass Enter Benin? No be through Warri them pass? Where Warri dey? Where Sapele Dey? Warri and Sapele dey Delta State.
The Deltans communicated with the English and Portuguese more often than the Edo people.
great video!
Thank you
Nice one 👍
Pidging no dey go anywhere, baba na Pidging dey threating the spread of English! look am well na, more than 200 mill Nigerians plus millions of west Africans dey speak only Pidgin and their mama language, while english na only few dey speak am. And Pidgin dey spreading like wild fire across the globe too, because of our music. So oga, tell me na, who be the threat here! Most Nigerians will rather speak Pidging than english. There you go! E dey better we dey speak our own unified language than the colonial masters language. Dis na the first step to real freedom. And when we dey talk about standardization of Pidging, dat one na simple tin na, e go happen, you go see!! another tin, una need to dey stop say pidging be broken english. Pidgin no be broken english, Pidgin na new language way dey develope. Every english speaking person way no come from west Africa fit understand broken english, but dey not fit understand pidgin. because pidging get different structure and new word they no fit understand = new language. Oga, I dey speak 5 different language, so i no wetin a dey talk. Pidgin na new language way dey develope.
Pidgin English originated from Delta State. I am Deltan and i had to water down my pidgin English when i started living outside my State.
Nigerians have been speaking pidgin since many centuries ago
Broke English have been there before Independence, what we have from the old Bendel state is the Warri and Sapele slangs
1:14 She's becoming sick keh 😂😂😂
She is already sick 😂
This Pidgin was taken to the US and Caribbean with the enslaved Africans.
Cameroon also speak pigin english
Nigeria Cameroon or which Cameroon
You no know say na Warri and Sapele nai pigin English comot from.
All Join bro, no be lie
u are not right. pigin started as a result of the transaction with the Portugal. and Portugal started dealing with Benin Kingdom which Warri and Sapele were part of. learn the right thing Man
Its not a different language it is just an English dialect. It evolved ultimately from coast English so is similar to other dialects with the same history like in Sierra Leone or Ghana.
It's a different language. These Pidgins can be looked at as different dialects of the same new language (though they're not) but they definitely aren't the same language as English.
The equivalent would be to say that Spanish, French, Italian, Portuguese and Romanian are the same language as Latin, they clearly are not
@Huhn-Bruh There's dialects in England more difficult for people to understand that are still considered English to I will maintain that it is just a different dialect.
@ikengaspirit3063
Comprehensibility doesn't determine if it's a different language, that's usually just the results of accents. What makes it a separate are the rules of grammar. So again, because Spanish, Italian and Portuguese speakers can understand each other and hold conversations does make them not different languages?
@Huhn-Bruh while Italians and Spaniards can understand words, a monolingual person in one cannot understand the other. I think it is the same between Portuguese and Spanish due to some Hispanic America vs Brazil understanding issues but I can't be sure.
That said, you are right that grammar matters more but using some comparison between Ebonics and Pidgin and Ebonics and English dialects in Great Britain, it becomes clear that many(but not all, obviously) of the new grammatic rules of Pidgin occur in English dialects. I guess because part of the creolization process is simplification and simplification would have occured already in dialects of the base language already.
@ikengaspirit3063
Monolingual Spanish, Italian and Portuguese speakers can definitely understand each other enough to hold moderate conversations when spoken slower paced.
In the USA even people from the North may have trouble understanding people from the South using the exact same words and grammar because of accents.
So to say Pidgin, Jamaican Patois, Haitian Creole are just dialects of colonial languages then the same must be applied to the colonial languages that are Creoles of Latin
So as we kill our mother language and promote pigeon language is good😂😂😂
You all never mean well for the continent
Is obvious
But sometimes even if you hate people just pretend sometimes and promote truth.
Una deh mad. No be language of blood and tears, language they were forced to learn as slaves from all tribes and different languages & they want to communicate among themselves and with their masters, that’s how platoi in Jamaican and the creole and haiti language was formed. Repent from your ways & love others with different colors, ask for forgive from what your ancestors do, end is near
Exactly. The language is kind a protest language, a way for the natives of different tribes to speak amongst themselves, but without the colonial masters understanding what was being said. I'm quite annoyed that the BBC have taken this up at all. It's non-ya! Non-ya business!
Your point is baseless because English alone is a slave language. We couldn't speak English perfectly so we had to construct pidgin English for our social understanding as a slave... English itself is a slave language and not pidgin if you must say. So stop beating yourself over nothing. Just rest my brother.
@ you see say madness deh your head? Wetin cause you write this? You get sense so?
Bro do a deeper research on this. Your history about pidgen English is too shallow and lack indept
He's a white , cut him some slack will you?