Great, sober debate, Team! Professor Mutua is a SOLID prof. His articulation is soundly educative... "Kenya is not our product. It is a product of the British colonialists, then we are condemned to live with it..." Prof. Mutua
Ahmed makes valid points most of time, it is just natural that every body has his own interests, especially as a lawyer where you have to take sides.....
Please Jeff let this show be a standard of people who you invite to your show. The two differ but the arguments are morally upright and no strings are attached. Though i tend to think its because of their academic excellence. Very healthy interview there Jeff !
i love how profs presents his discussion ....on a purely intellectual level....his excellent. but in terms of unpacking the discussion to the masses....ahmed GM has an advantage
I love the way Grad muler is giving prof time to speak, I mean he is so generous unlike the prof, where did prof earn prof title? Can't be a very scholarly institution!!!
I really feel sorry for raila and his team , president Uhuru Kenyatta can't force Kenyans to vote for raila , it's Kenyan who has right to vote there choice ,husler is Kenyan choice
The Grand Muller is defending corruption because he earns lots for money from the corrupt. As for those attacking the professor, is that one has to dare to dream inorder to ask for the impossible Just think of the following words uttered by one leader in America who dared to dream in full day light and shared it with the nation.He asked the people of that nation just to ask themselves, what they could do for the nation rather than what the nation could do for them. Unless this president dared to dream and share with his nation , things would have not taken the turn that they did in America. The Grand Muller is the product of a corrupt nation and has been a benefiter of corruption. Then he has to defend corruption. Same as all those lawyers in the Sonoko"s case defending corruption because they are product of corruption, benefiters of corruption, by earning huge sums from the accused. The Grand Muller is not truthful in not admitting that Election Fruad has and takes place in our country. Then How sure can we declare that all the time that others claim to have won , Election Fruad was not the instrument used to cheat the really winner. All need to be open and think for this nation, BBI may not be perfect but the President being human enough has realized there is a problem in this nation, and he has just done what Jony F Kennedy did for America, the president has dared to dream in full day light for Kenya. It is the duty of every Kenyan to start thinking in terms of how to make this be a better Kenya for all Kenyans. Stop the cheap politics. Who ever becomes the next president requires that Kenya goes from being better to even more better. So all harmonise and work for improvement. Change is key to improving the quality of how things are done.
Anyone who knows about colleges in the US knows that if you just attend most of the classes , you will graduate. this makau guy is living proof of that, hardly an intelligent guy . Reminds me of that one Aunt that never lets anyone else speak at family gatherings. …..SMH
Kenyatta has one vote. Kibaki left kenyans to decide. Why does odm think kenyatta is the bridge to help them ascend to leadership? Let raila convince kenyans to vote for him.
The Professor has a point. Kenya lacks an ethos, just like all other post-colonial states. They need something to unite them. The best example is Nyerere’s Ujamaa in Tanzania. By crying UJAMAA you have got virtually everyone agreeing though not knowing what exactly Ujamaa means. If everything falls apart, you call on Nyerere. With that combination they won a war with Uganda and have a woman President now without much ado. Going forward, the Senior Lawyer is right: ODM have been refusing election results since the days of Senior Odinga’s KPU. They need to be cleansed of their tribalism, more so than all tribes in Kenya put together.
Prof is out of his mind , if he really teaches students in a class , they all fail their exams cos prof is soo boring and he is out of topic period 👊👊👊
both men are intelligent...the difference is that one has practised in Kenya more than the other. GM obviously has the head way from being sharpened by the environment of Kenya longer. Makau on the other hand has the philosophical advantage which unfortunately does not suit the discussion at hand
Like Ahmed nasir and Jeff all people in the comments want a debate on bbi ,political parties , and raila uhuru debate This guy is talking about the fundamental principles of African governance
How come Jeff is the only person who feels the heat during the interviews his guests never remove their jackets,sweaters or coats or its just a show off !!!🤥🙄
Ehh!!!! I think Prof has a doctorate in doing semantic evasions, the guy never answered any question directly...indeed things fall apart... thanks to Chinua Achebe he saw this coming.
This doubtful Professor (judging from how he speaks and of basic communication skills like turn taking) and America brainwashed political orphan seems to be either drank or trying to show the Americans that he can lecturer Kenyans on issues he himself can not achieve or help to achieve. Its absurd....Vitu kwa ground ni different
We don't need to restructure the government system. The problem isn't with the system cause this same system has worked on other more developed governments. The problem is with the integrity of the people who are implementing the system. Honestly, how long are we gonna change the constitution for Kenyans to realise it's the elected that cause our problems? Leave that constitution alone. There's no need for a referendum.
That's what happens you become educated instead of being learned, theoretically he is a prof but practically he is a moribund lawyer. He has a Permanent head Damage
Why do you like this guy in pink shirt he normally talks nothing to pick. you better bring SG every Wednesday. Any way afathali Makau will get some sense.
Bogas politics in Kenya. The corrupt politicians are handling them like a stupid bunch of citizens. When are the Kenyans going to grow up and emancipate??
Jeff you gave this proff with a fake accent more time to speak nothing just like the bbi he is supporting. He ran away from here tries to live talk like a mzungu n then comes here acting a raila sympathizer.. Silly
I think corruption is not too bad given it is win win situations. Which benefits both parties. I mean people need money to survive and whetever way they can get it they should do it.
i hear what u saying but it's not fake...when you live somewhere for long time it follows naturally...i think his is not even as pronounced as it should be given he's lived there for 20+ yrs. If for example you're in Nairobi or upcountry and move Mombasa or Zanzibar and live there for say 5 or 10 yrs, your the way you speak Swahili will naturally have some resemblance to those locations
There are three types of intelligence: practical (the ability to get along in different contexts), creative (the ability go come up with new ideas), and analytical (the ability to evaluate information and solve problems). Prof lacks the ability to address realistic problems using his academic theory. HAIL GRAND MULLA
African professors always align themselves with their tribes.. if the situation turns sour this guy will catch next plane to New York. Let the common interest prevail and always prosperous africa.
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Grand Muller my man all the time enough respect SC Ahmed Nassir 👏👏👏👌
Ahmednassir is a wise man.
For fools
i gree
may be you don't know what it means to be wise.
Great, sober debate, Team! Professor Mutua is a SOLID prof. His articulation is soundly educative... "Kenya is not our product. It is a product of the British colonialists, then we are condemned to live with it..." Prof. Mutua
prof is more educated while ahmednassir is more intelligent
3 CLOWNS , IMAGINE HOW THEY WILL SORT OUT INVESTORS..
GM is using wisdom
They are not the way u describe them,I like jkl but this was the most boring one
which one is best
@@WangHuLee it will depends with you coz I don't know the sort of debate you soberly can pay attention to.
Ahmed makes valid points most of time, it is just natural that every body has his own interests, especially as a lawyer where you have to take sides.....
Please Jeff let this show be a standard of people who you invite to your show. The two differ but the arguments are morally upright and no strings are attached. Though i tend to think its because of their academic excellence. Very healthy interview there Jeff !
i love how profs presents his discussion ....on a purely intellectual level....his excellent. but in terms of unpacking the discussion to the masses....ahmed GM has an advantage
Shallow arguments by Prof
I love the way Grad muler is giving prof time to speak, I mean he is so generous unlike the prof, where did prof earn prof title? Can't be a very scholarly institution!!!
Grandf Muller, You are the prof instead. Top notch reasoning. I wish you were the only guest.
hahaha!True
Makau is a heckler. A Prof but with very little between his ears. He doesn't even have basic debate etiquette.
Prof discussion is all about question question question!
Grand mullah is full of bright ideas and intelligent. But two people who are in all agreement shouldnt be at the bench
Theoretical lawyer and practical lawyer haha..mulla very smart man 👏👏👏👏🤝
These are the kinds of interviews worth watching
I now realise I can lecture in America, if Mutua does with that level of intelligence and handling matters.
Now I understand Why Miguna Miguna called Mutua a joke.
Amed Nassir my learned friend educate that proffesor pliz.
After kibaki, Ruto will be the next intelligent prezzo we will ever have
I really feel sorry for raila and his team , president Uhuru Kenyatta can't force Kenyans to vote for raila , it's Kenyan who has right to vote there choice ,husler is Kenyan choice
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Leo Prof amecheza down......game iko down!
Grand Mullah ameweza
this is the debate that i admire to watch a lot
This prof is used to speaking in a vacuum. He holds no tangible argument based on any facts including intelligence.
Had completely ruined the show
This prof has only one thing speaking through the nose
Grand Muller knows more than he could admit publicly because of his political affiliation.
The Grand Muller is defending corruption because he earns lots for money from the corrupt. As for those attacking the professor, is that one has to dare to dream inorder to ask for the impossible Just think of the following words uttered by one leader in America who dared to dream in full day light and shared it with the nation.He asked the people of that nation just to ask themselves, what they could do for the nation rather than what the nation could do for them. Unless this president dared to dream and share with his nation , things would have not taken the turn that they did in America. The Grand Muller is the product of a corrupt nation and has been a benefiter of corruption. Then he has to defend corruption. Same as all those lawyers in the Sonoko"s case defending corruption because they are product of corruption, benefiters of corruption, by earning huge sums from the accused. The Grand Muller is not truthful in not admitting that Election Fruad has and takes place in our country. Then How sure can we declare that all the time that others claim to have won , Election Fruad was not the instrument used to cheat the really winner. All need to be open and think for this nation, BBI may not be perfect but the President being human enough has realized there is a problem in this nation, and he has just done what Jony F Kennedy did for America, the president has dared to dream in full day light for Kenya. It is the duty of every Kenyan to start thinking in terms of how to make this be a better Kenya for all Kenyans. Stop the cheap politics. Who ever becomes the next president requires that Kenya goes from being better to even more better. So all harmonise and work for improvement. Change is key to improving the quality of how things are done.
Anyone who knows about colleges in the US knows that if you just attend most of the classes , you will graduate. this makau guy is living proof of that, hardly an intelligent guy . Reminds me of that one Aunt that never lets anyone else speak at family gatherings. …..SMH
Grand Mulla is broadmind man but because of national cake has become blind and deaf. So enjoy the cake sir and agnore the reality
GM has a point on metrics of handshake...
Kenyatta has one vote. Kibaki left kenyans to decide. Why does odm think kenyatta is the bridge to help them ascend to leadership? Let raila convince kenyans to vote for him.
you do know though that they do have influence....on others...that's politics
This Kipara guy is talking alot..not letting jeff and Ahmed talk..Is it Jeffs show or kiparas show
Prof is stuck in the "ideal" world drawn from scholarly research.....unfortunately vitu kwa ground ni different...
I like this Guy.. He should run for governor in one of the eastern counties after the term of the current governors is done
Yani kuongea kwa mtu kukuache utake asimame ktk siasa..mtu ni vitendo sio maneno.....WAKE UP
Your out of your self. Every time Ruto Ruto!!! Live than man a lone. Its God who knows his final words over him
Noted some sincerety in grand mullah, fact no one knows the purpose of the handshake even Rio.
Educated doesn't mean your intellectual. Professor needs to have more discussions before coming to national TV
The Professor has a point. Kenya lacks an ethos, just like all other post-colonial states. They need something to unite them. The best example is Nyerere’s Ujamaa in Tanzania. By crying UJAMAA you have got virtually everyone agreeing though not knowing what exactly Ujamaa means. If everything falls apart, you call on Nyerere. With that combination they won a war with Uganda and have a woman President now without much ado. Going forward, the Senior Lawyer is right: ODM have been refusing election results since the days of Senior Odinga’s KPU. They need to be cleansed of their tribalism, more so than all tribes in Kenya put together.
Prof, I wonder why many Kenyans don't get your points. I'm getting you clearly.
Prof is the only person speaking sense on that bench. do you expect jubilee lawyer who lost in court accept supreme court verdict?
This prof need to get a grip literary..talking too much🤔 kizungu mingi like he's trying to overdo jeff.
Prof is out of his mind , if he really teaches students in a class , they all fail their exams cos prof is soo boring and he is out of topic period 👊👊👊
lol
profs tend to be boring.
Prof is not behaving like one. Speaking alot and saying nothing!!
James Kiiru ... you don’t get him because he is an intellectual who speaks of metaphysics not practical politics . That is why you don’t get him 👌
We need miguna now
Makau line of reasoning is misguided.
Nice introduction like you jef!
both men are intelligent...the difference is that one has practised in Kenya more than the other. GM obviously has the head way from being sharpened by the environment of Kenya longer. Makau on the other hand has the philosophical advantage which unfortunately does not suit the discussion at hand
MR MUTUA JUST KNOW THIS, NOBODY IS PUSHING MT KENYA TO LOVE RUTO. THE BLOOD IN OUR VEINS IS RUTO.
Mutua Makau represents "kwelemika bila kustaarabika".
Like Ahmed nasir and Jeff all people in the comments want a debate on bbi ,political parties , and raila uhuru debate
This guy is talking about the fundamental principles of African governance
What is Makau Mutua saying?
He is drunk
@Mr Man he is just stupid
MAKAU MUTUA PLEASE RISE ABOVE PARTY POLITICS.
Prof has little to offer, he just trying to out smart Jeff with English accent coming from the nose.
😂😂😂
How come Jeff is the only person who feels the heat during the interviews his guests never remove their jackets,sweaters or coats or its just a show off !!!🤥🙄
Ehh!!!! I think Prof has a doctorate in doing semantic evasions, the guy never answered any question directly...indeed things fall apart... thanks to Chinua Achebe he saw this coming.
Makau mutua talking too much while saying nothing, it is like he lives in another planet. His political affiliation clouds his thinking
Please debate about how to remove people from poverty tired of politic and people cannot put meal on the table this time round
A nation that does not honor her heroes, it will not be honored among nations.
The black trump is misbehaving and speaking arrogantly like he is giving lecture to teenagers in classroom.
Where can I find the TJRC report? Any media or website?
Great job professor, you're talking a lot of sense. I wonder why 🇰🇪 doesn't like using such minds!
abraham nyamwange 👎
This doubtful Professor (judging from how he speaks and of basic communication skills like turn taking) and America brainwashed political orphan seems to be either drank or trying to show the Americans that he can lecturer Kenyans on issues he himself can not achieve or help to achieve. Its absurd....Vitu kwa ground ni different
@@morisdavidmkulima2239 this is a true lie!
We don't need to restructure the government system. The problem isn't with the system cause this same system has worked on other more developed governments. The problem is with the integrity of the people who are implementing the system. Honestly, how long are we gonna change the constitution for Kenyans to realise it's the elected that cause our problems? Leave that constitution alone. There's no need for a referendum.
Eti Mr Odinnga has made this country a favor and a sacrifice by being in jail for 10yrs????????How ????
Do you say a great mind is this of makau mutua
Balance went away when The founding fathers won the wealth race.
Makau is just talking his own things quite irrelevant.
I think Pro is either drunk or his mind has quickly eroded
That's what happens you become educated instead of being learned, theoretically he is a prof but practically he is a moribund lawyer. He has a Permanent head Damage
@Mr Man no need to disrespect her! She's entitled to her own opinion!
BBI says nothing about SGR nightmares.
Jeff should bring General Miguna on the bench via skye
Just realized “prof” Makau mutua is not intelligent . Talking too much nonsense even Jeff is confused
🤣🤣🤣🤣
JK tell that men you are not stupid hahahah
So this guy is a lawyer but he don't even know what is in the BBI? did I HEAR Him shamelessly say nothing? Anyway.......
This makau just has total hatred for DP.Ruto let him be taught for free by Grand Muller but he should pay generously for the lessons learnt
Next time Jeff try to equally distribute the time between your guest, you are the MC
No one is innocent in Kenya even this nasir is something else. what he does only God knows. Nyani Haoni kundule
Career Sabotage::😂😂🤣
If being talkative qualifies you to be a prof, then I don't wanna be.
I also now see the reasons why Miguna was quick to question the ideology of Prof. Even Kabando has more logic to Law than Prof. My apologies though
This prof is misguided ...Confused
Why does the prof talk the whole time? repeat the same points over and over? and Jeff is only watching?
I know Abdinassir. Who is this the other guy?
Why do you like this guy in pink shirt he normally talks nothing to pick. you better bring SG every Wednesday. Any way afathali Makau will get some sense.
BOSSES wear their watches on the right.
mutua only selling the kikamba accent nothing constructive
G MULLAR CAN EASILY BEAT MAKAU MUTUA HANDS DOWN IN ANY POLITICAL CONTEST. WATU HATAKANGI MADETAILS MOB.
Abdi let the learned man understand he has been misleading schoolas
Prof is more educated than ahmednasir!! I can't believe the points that his hitting.
beba baba ikulu (bbi)
Bogas politics in Kenya. The corrupt politicians are handling them like a stupid bunch of citizens. When are the Kenyans going to grow up and emancipate??
The video has been doctored as some parts have been edited out.
Jeff you gave this proff with a fake accent more time to speak nothing just like the bbi he is supporting. He ran away from here tries to live talk like a mzungu n then comes here acting a raila sympathizer.. Silly
Gladys Boss Sholei should replace this so called professor
Prof u need to know kwa ground things are different
GM is up to the discussion
Prof is drunk.
ODM professor
Honestly, I am always unable to relate with a kenyan who twengs
I think corruption is not too bad given it is win win situations. Which benefits both parties. I mean people need money to survive and whetever way they can get it they should do it.
Some fake accent detected 🙈🙈🙈🙈
It's because ur accent is all mother tongue that's why U think he has a fake accent yet that's how he speaks.
@@paulkatembo3978 Hhhhmmmm
i hear what u saying but it's not fake...when you live somewhere for long time it follows naturally...i think his is not even as pronounced as it should be given he's lived there for 20+ yrs. If for example you're in Nairobi or upcountry and move Mombasa or Zanzibar and live there for say 5 or 10 yrs, your the way you speak Swahili will naturally have some resemblance to those locations
There are three types of intelligence: practical (the ability to get along in different contexts), creative (the ability go come up with new ideas), and analytical (the ability to evaluate information and solve problems). Prof lacks the ability to address realistic problems using his academic theory. HAIL GRAND MULLA
how is being imprisoned a sacrifice to render someone fit for presidency.... haha knowledge can be dangerous
Kenya ni shida even the intellects are talking ukabila ..
this prof guys talks too much with no tangible content...excellent debating GRAND MULLAH
African professors always align themselves with their tribes.. if the situation turns sour this guy will catch next plane to New York. Let the common interest prevail and always prosperous africa.
Mutua is a disgrace to the academic fraternity. He is so limited in scope and cannot appreciate or interpret what is happening in the ground.