These Are the Top 5 BEST Electric Cars & Trucks You Can Buy to Conquer Winter!
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Heat pump+ Preconditioning + access to Level 2 at Home most important for EV efficiency in winter. Dual Motor + Snow Tires needed for traction. My early Hyundai Ioniq 5 has no preconditioning. Takes 15 mins DCFC in cold temps to get over 60kWh. My LFP TM3 with preconditioning starts at 90kWh. TMY is best all around due to having it all plus supercharging network.
My Ioniq 5 Limited awd with snow tires is incredible in snow! Was driving in 8 inches of powder yesterday and it performed flawlessly.
My Tesla MY was great in the snow up in the Wasatch with 4 proper snows. I think AWD EVs tend to make pretty great winter vehicles, so long as you can charge at home and the range isn’t an issue. That said, I would always choose a vehicle with 4 snows over any other vehcile on all seasons (AWD w/ all weather might work). I think you guys are spot on with a number of the EV-specific benefits in cold weather - pre-conditioning being especially great on cold dark mornings, etc. For what it’s worth, I would not get another EV (maybe any vehicle at this point) that relies on a touch screen, but does not have a heated steering wheel. If you need bare fingers to operate your vehicle that can only be accessed through a touch screen, having a steering wheel that requires you to wear gloves until the steering wheel warms up makes no sense to me. I know there’s a tendency to favor trucks in the winter, but the big downside with trucks (and all EVs) in winter driving is the weight. While that weight is great for traction, you also have to slow all that weight down and get it around turns. It’s not unusual to see trucks and big SUVs off the road in snow for exactly that reason (also - most don’t bother to run snows, another issue). Getting going in the snow is quite a bit different than turning and stopping. 4 proper snow tires are always worth it (IMHO) regardless of how good the vehicle might otherwise be. Looking forward to so more snow tires tests one of these days soon!
Well timed, friends. Hope you guys continue to grow, evolve and be around for years to come. You're "one of us" genuinely and are getting better at every aspect of this as time goes on (and you've been good for a long time already)!
Thanks for the thoughtful comment!
My Bolt EV works great. Could use a bit more ground clearance but snow tires are the only thing you need. I live in Alberta 2 weeks ago the coldest place on Earth.
Cold saps range very cold about 45% of EPA range or less because of the Heater. You have to have the heater on all the time.
We noticed the VW ID4 comes with heat pump in Canada. Very cool.
@@lizburgess4398 heat pump only makes a difference when it isnt too cold Bjorn Nyland pointed this out in an Earlier Ionic EV test pre Ioniq 5, post ioniq air cooled.
Great review of top 5 EV by Kase and Tommy. Probably one of the best TFL panels, though I always enjoy Roman and Tommy bickering about some tiny point.
You guys really don’t like teslas 😂 I am definitely a fan of all the EVs in this list but it’s hard to ignore what Tesla is doing. And in the winter when range goes down, don’t you think it’s important to have access to a reliable charging network? Seems very important to me.
I think your own video archive show that tires are the most important for winter driving. I think it is lazy to assume that just because something is AWD it is better in snow.
Good stuff! I like your picks. IF I were going to buy an EV vehicle, your input is a definite influence. The EQS, Rivian truck and even the Hyundai Ionic 5 get my attention. Just don't really need any of them atm. lol
Thanks for the video. I would really like to see some “real world” testing of EV’s in really cold temperatures. In Minnesota, 35 F in the winter and the college kids are back in shorts and T-shirts. So I would like to know what happens when the temperatures are below 0 F even down to -30 F. How are the heat pumps going to perform then? It’s difficult to get heat out of some ICE vehicles at those temperatures. In fact, many people use to block the radiator inlet just to keep warm in the vehicle. Also, I don’t know how one compares a truck to a car for snow handling. Wait until it snows 12+ inches overnight and one has to get to work before roads have been plowed. I don’t think the Ionic 5 or Mercedes EQS are going to fair well against the Rivian R1T and R1S and the Lightning F150.
I will wait for the Silverado ev! I just cannot learn to love the Ford Lightning's looks!
To me in Quebec, i choose the ionic 5. I did a roadrest recently with this car and she is awesome. Sure, when the lease on my F-150 come out i'll go for ionic 5. With the gas price at 1,719 a liter...
Gas prices are at 1.71 per liter because of politics and gas taxes.
I know the reason why but it's still the fact that we pay that price whatever the goal.
How can you list the Rivian when it locks its rear wheels on slow descent through snow and ice? Super dangerous for inexperienced drivers. It won’t be a true winter option until they figure that out…
Always mentioning the efficiency of a heat pump but I would like to watch how it compares to the gas powered vehicle heater. Guessing EVs doesn't have the slow heater warm up time but will the heater blow as hot after warm up? If the EV heat pump is anything like a residential heat pump that always feels like it's blowing cold air then they can't compete. Been curious on that topic and been waiting around for the cooler temps to allow someone to compare.
Our Ioniq 5 with the heat pump in Colorado winters provides nice even heat. You don't need super hot air blasting out to maintain a comfortable cabin. It warms up much quicker than our Tacoma. BTW Our air source heat pump does a great job both heating and cooling the house.
Are EV batteries greatly effected by the cold temps, range, charging, etc?
This greatly depends on the vehicle you buy. If you get one with battery preconditioning, it will pre-warm your battery before a charging stop so you get optimal speeds even if colder weather. If you get a vehicle with a heat pump, it will use residual heat from the battery to heat the cabin before using the electric heater to help conserve energy and reduce the range loss. Quite a few EVs out there have both, which are a must if you live in a colder climate like the northern US or Canada. I personally have a Kia EV6 and love it.
Generally, yes they are greatly affected.
Mine loses half it's range.
@@pixelfairy Ouch
@@snupermoto723 to make it easy, when shopping for an ev, concider it's real world range to be half it's epa range and check your charging options around you. Remember that charging stations don't always work, so you might have to go to the next one. The half range rule can save you from range anxiety. Ev fans hate to hear this but we're still in early adopter phase.
You guys make a good team!
Tesla, please build a rally car version of the Model 3. With an air ride, height adjustable suspension. Inspired by the Porsche 911 Dakar rally car.
American obsession with AWD! I live in north Scandinavia where we have snow roads (= and I mean real white snow roads) for more than half the year, still 80% of cars are 2wd with good winter tires. No problems at all. Unless you drive up skiing slopes in Colorado regularly I see no reason why 4wd is a must.
Thanks so much
HAPPY FRIDAY EVERYONE....HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY ✌️
We live in Michigan, and we've towed a Little Guy 6x10 Silver Shadow with a Transit Connect. We wanted the VW ID4, but just couldn't afford it. It would have towed the 1190 lb teardrop no problem. We ended up with a Bolt EUV which would likely tow it. GM doesn't recommend towing though. Have to sell our camper. 😒
Ioniq5 peeps... have yall had any problems with road spray blocking the rear window? I was skeptical when i heard neither the EV6 nor ioniq5 would be getting rear wipers...
Cute you think Colorda is cold 🤣
Lets be real here... HUMMER EV is the best ev snow vehicle.
True, but 1) not many people can afford it, 2) not many people want a hyper-masculine truck, 3) they don’t make enough, and 4) it’s just not a practical vehicle for 1,000s of reasons.
Hard braking on icy roads must be scary in that 9,000 lbs vehicle
Waiting for a full electric Forester.
2024, right?
Some EV's one-pedal-driving cannot be disabled. It's bad for winter driving.
If you watch these youtube videos where a guy goes around to all the mechanics in a big auto repair shop and ask them each, what is the worst cars that need the most work, most of them say Hyundai/Kia.
The lighting looses almost half of its range when it gets too cold. I don’t think the lighting is a good vehicle for cold climates.
Why would you pick the ID4 over something like the Solterra or bZ4X? Those cars will embarrass the ID4 in snowy climates.
You Gus totally left out the Subaru alterra and the Jaguar ipace
But the IONIQ 5 has only 6in of ground clearance.
Rivian needs headlight heaters.
Appears that way!! Just wishing them success, as production is hell, but best wishes for survival
Or just clean and wax/ceramic coat them
Most new cars are LEDs now.
What about the Porsche Taycan Cross Turismo.
I live near the snow capital of the world in New York. The test that I want to see is on a pretty steep grade Will the vehicle make it up the snowy icy hill and be able to stop halfway down. Nobody has done a video on that. They all want to show that they can do burnouts in the snow and do donuts. That's not how I drive in the winter.
And I don't need to see another range test that's for damn sure!
Why wasn't tesla on the list ?
where's the Hummer?
I still don't like the exterior of that Ioniq 5, it's just not a good looking vehicle to me.
Sigh. 4/5 of these you cant buy because they dont exist on dealer lots and inventory outlook isnt promising. Cool cars though
Great that you can charge in 15 to 20 minuets, if you can find a charger that's open and working, Tesla is the only one that's providing that
for their customers on a consistent basis! That should have been one of your BIG considerations!
Did I hear Powerboost? lol
You know how to make an EV snow capable???
The same way you make ANY vehicle snow capable.
SLAP PROPER SNOW TIRES ON every vehicle.
I have to stop watching rich peoples channels. So envious of this stuff. But at 50k and up its not even in the ball park for middle class Joe. The best we can hope for is used versions of this stuff. They promised that EVs would fall in price once in mass production, wow was that a lie. These are only dreams to me
Who has superior technology to Tesla?
Noone. When it comes to EV's today, every other car manufacturer on earth is trailing Tesla in technology. That's not to say there aren't compelling reasons to own non-Tesla EV's, but from an owner, and a passionate car enthusiast, The Tesla experience is unmatched as a day to day car when the entire package is considered.
I find the comment in the video about their cars being "old" hilarious, since Tesla is without a doubt the most active company updating their vehicles right through the lineup constantly. I don't need "a new wing" to make my car new. I do however appreciate that Tesla added Heat Pumps to the existing Model 3 when it became evident that it was a vast boost in efficiency, didn't need to release a whole new car or add a "Winter Package" premium like every other manufacturer would have done.
Usual dumb Fanboy response.
The last vehicles is complete garbage
What a lame dismissal of Tesla. I could've respected a list not limited to "top five" or a list of "those which have joined Tesla in the market" but you also dismissed Lucid and Taycan and Audi and Kia awd models. Bad video premise overall.
Maybe they didn’t get a tester.
D.Y.O.R.; valuable, albeit selective, information for the consumer. Try to notice, whom keeps the lights on at TFL (sponsors, trips, vacations). Connect the dots, it may help understanding the list. Alex just flipped on ID4.
how about great electric vehicles for under 30 grand ..... oops , they don't make it
Bolt and Bolt EUV are amazing vehicles for the price. Under 30 grand.
@@ShippyJack Agreed! I have a 2023 Bolt EV. It's an efficient hot hatch. Great in snow with winter tires too!