@@anetaomar1644 lol that position is literally from their debut ANYTHING CAN CHANGE and anyone can improve in a span of 10yrs. You really cant see a comment or nobody is talking about irenes dancing nowadays. One thing she improved is her vocals tho.
They are all singing clearly in the chorus at the same volume. Also these videos are poorly made cause you can hear them better in the posted performance.
People hating on the comments are really pitiful. Keep relying on MR removed videos like this one to form your irrelevant opinions. Ignore all the other videos where you can CLEARLY hear their raw vocals, like behind recording, concerts, encore stages, etc. Keep up with your delusions, guys!
Before you guys come for the other members, Wendy as a main vocal just has better and louder projection as you can hear in the chorus the girls project more and are heard more. Also Joy’s ‘cosmic love’ part is loud since she projects more for higher notes
Ijbol only delusional reveluvs would say bullshit like this. Casual listeners and non fans who have ears realized that ONLY WENDY is stable and sounds good. Wendy hardcarried as usual, since others are gasping for air and screeching like donkey
If you couldn't project enough to be audible on mere music shows, you have no hope surviving live performance with a band. Even Wendy fought for it during SLSL and Wish You Well special performance with Ttongchi's band.
@@wendydarl facts! Only wendy can survive live performances with a band. Thats why rv never do concerts with a live band when other groups like bp and twice do it with a live band. On R to V concerts they always use a loud backtrack and lipsyncing the whole time. Just give us wendy solo concert with live band!!
@@wendydarl it’s not about not being able to, it’s about just not doing it. Wendy barely had any moments of singing below C which is why she could project more properly since it’s easier to do. Lower notes require more core strength which isn’t there while moving
@@izonexbae Meaning, the ones responsible for the low reg never train enough to develop their low reg even in their 10 years. Meaning, as you said, they didn't do it because they couldn't. So... skill, dynamics, and stamina issues all at once? That's even worse.
and Wendy always hard carrying this group in their live perf...tbh I believe Wendy wanted to perform this live in all music shows just like what she did on her solo, but well it's a group and members can't do what she can
It seems like the mics where lowered and Wendy singing loudly as she use to that's why she's clear and the ai probably distorted the actual mics vs the backtrack, the backtrack is so loud af you can even find a shift in Wendy's voice sometimes.
@@Sara-pk8wv I mean other than the chorus of this song, it's not that hard to sing (and they mostly lipsync the chorus). I know they sing well, most of them at least, but they would still get hate for not being able to sound good live /while performing/ if they were a 4th/5th gen group. Also, keep in mind that their choreographies are super simple in comparison to most current ggs.
@@goldenhime8404 lmao im not shitting on them, ik they're talented. just pointing out the double standards with newer gen idols who are judged solely based on MR removed videos
RV actually doesn't sing their choruses, which is a great technique so they could focus on sounding good in their own parts while dancing. We can only clearly hear them shake during their parts instead of the chorus.
RV is so lucky to have Wendy, cause if theres no Wendy in RV, group just a standart group. Will not compared to Mamamoo, will not called as a vocal group😂
The fact that they put Yeri before Wendy in the bridge is straight up tragedy. Sometimes contrasts work in arts, but in this case it just highlights how far and wide the skill gap is. What is it again the reason she's added to the group if not to pull down the age average? No vocal, dance, sale contribution, nothing. She's a better actress than she is a singer.
aren't you just hating though? yeri used to be behind in those segments that you mentioned but she's come far a lot. the idea of being set to sing before wendy being an advantage/disadvantage for her is debatable but to say that she has no contribution to anything except for acting is just a very useless thing to say.
@@FUMEXE Pointing out she's the weakest member in terms of skills (vocal, dance, stage presence, attracting sales) is not hating. I did say she's better as an actress, and I enjoyed her Blue Birthday (still the best screen project of all RV members, btw). Good luck trying to make her appear as important as RV's main vocalist or main dancer, though.
Even wendy can cleared yeri in acting field 😭 Wendy is the best actress and voice actress in RV, she's really good in musical, dubbing and skit, if only SM allowed her to try kdrama project so more people can see how good her acting skills is
I agree it sounds different to the live performance, maybe cause the MR was really loud, so it was hard to remove that layer without altering the live vocals layer
Only Wendy was clearly audible through the MR throughout the performance. Idk whether the others' mics were not loud enough or they didn't project their voices enough.
@@ardentthoughts9750 For me the other members were audible through most of it - only a couple times where Yeri vocal dropped for me, but I agree they were more on level with the MR vs. Wendy who always is clearly over the level of the MR. It just makes sense that it is like @agalivillalbaavila598 said that some of the live vocals are a bit muted here and there - it's not a perfect science. All we do know is Wendy's vocal is so strong and clear - plus other members so clear when they have stronger lines as well - just a lot of the members have softer or more similar to spoken tone lines also and those disappear, too
OMG! Seulgi sounded so strained, joy and irene sounded more stable than her🤦♂️ and her fans needs to stop overhyping her vocals, they need to see this and maybe rethink their decisions in life🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@Delascrea why is it when someone is telling the OBVIOUS you always label it as a hate??? We should NORMALIZE TELLING THE TRUTH AND NOT SUGAR COAT THINGS JUST FOR THE SAKE OF NOT HURTING SOMEONES FEELINGS. This generation is soft af cant even say constructive criticism coz they will label it as hate🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@aircole1000 slow down please. If you don't hate her then just say "i don't" 🤭. Then , what do you mean with the wrods "rethink their decisions in life?" What decision, exactly?
@@Delascrea you and her fans need to stop OVERHYPING her oh so "siren" vocals, shes literally sounded like shes struggling underwater🤣 You're lucky this is not lesserafim or else she and yeri will be bombarded with "honest" comments🤷
@@aircole1000facts!! I don't understand why her fans say her voice is like a siren, when she's sounding very nasal like she's had a cold and something blocked her nose, her breathing technique like a fish running out of air, gasping. The most bizzare thing is her fans always says she's an all rounder when her singing skills are mediocre (even Joy is better than her now) and she can't rap. Wendy is the real all rounder, best vocal, best rapper and lead dancer material too
на таких выступлениях в принципе редко когда поют в живут - потому что такие мероприятия созданы для шоу, а не для демонстрации умений групп. согласна, что девочки были не так стабильны, как хотелось бы. думаю, вина в том, что см очень редко дает им возможность проявить себя в активных выступлениях (+очень редкие кб). в "спокойных" выступлениях (где они не танцуют) у девочек очень сильные голоса, особенно у венди. у них регулярно выходят живые выступления, прямые трансляции и видео с записи треков. ну и кажется, будто их фонограмму здесь сделали слишком громкой - в некоторых моментах особенно заметно, как сильно скачет удаление заднего плана. считаю, что судить о голосах необходимо с концертов, где девочки все так же активно танцуют и поют, но силы их направлены на музыкальное сопровождение, а не визуальное, потому что иначе придется переснимать, а в таких шоу это очень затратно (финансово).
на таких муз шоу, во время промоушена обычно все поют под фанеру, т.к. это всё-таки тв, а там пекутся в первую очередь об идеальности картинки и звука, так что вживую петь просто нет нужды. Вокал нужно слушать хотя бы на концертах, вот там айдолы, зачастую поют вживую
+ я посмотрела другие mr с ред вельвет и на остальных своих выстаплениях они были стабильны и очень хорошо пели. думаю, что все же в этом случае либо проблемы с mr, либо с микрофонами/оборудованиями. другие выступления с космик исполнены хорошо.
We couldn't care less about the people judging them based off a single video where even the backtrack is very loud too and Because of that it was difficult to remove it without altering the vocals! So please! Don't jump to conclusions so earlier!
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Wendy singing while dancing, and she's really stable. Main vocalist and lead dancer material fr
Irene lead dancer
@@anetaomar1644 Wendy is my favorite dancer 💙💙💙
@anetaomar1644 notice how they said "lead dancer material" and not just lead dancer...
@@anetaomar1644 not anymore lol since wendy improves her dance a lot. Many people agree that Wendy is in 2nd place in the dance category now
@@anetaomar1644 lol that position is literally from their debut ANYTHING CAN CHANGE and anyone can improve in a span of 10yrs. You really cant see a comment or nobody is talking about irenes dancing nowadays. One thing she improved is her vocals tho.
Wendy was born to be idol. That girl loves to sing
Just another ordinary day for goat Wendy
frr
Wendy vocaaaal
Wendy 😮👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Wendy's vocals are godly ❤
ig backtrack at fancons will be louder than ever, good luck to Wan to overcome it
Thr backtrack can't handle Wendy 😂😂😂
Queen Wendy literally sings every single of her lines, even with chorus ❤🔥
Wow Wendy's vocals
Sayang ku Wannie🎉
I can only hear Wendy voice clearly
They are all singing clearly in the chorus at the same volume. Also these videos are poorly made cause you can hear them better in the posted performance.
@@Cecil1213be fr
@@ungegreier1802 They literally are singing so let’s relax you can hear them more in the posted performance too but you tried it
People hating on the comments are really pitiful. Keep relying on MR removed videos like this one to form your irrelevant opinions. Ignore all the other videos where you can CLEARLY hear their raw vocals, like behind recording, concerts, encore stages, etc. Keep up with your delusions, guys!
They are dumb. I won't be surprised if they are fan from that one group who can't sing properly
Before you guys come for the other members, Wendy as a main vocal just has better and louder projection as you can hear in the chorus the girls project more and are heard more. Also Joy’s ‘cosmic love’ part is loud since she projects more for higher notes
Ijbol only delusional reveluvs would say bullshit like this. Casual listeners and non fans who have ears realized that ONLY WENDY is stable and sounds good. Wendy hardcarried as usual, since others are gasping for air and screeching like donkey
If you couldn't project enough to be audible on mere music shows, you have no hope surviving live performance with a band. Even Wendy fought for it during SLSL and Wish You Well special performance with Ttongchi's band.
@@wendydarl facts! Only wendy can survive live performances with a band. Thats why rv never do concerts with a live band when other groups like bp and twice do it with a live band. On R to V concerts they always use a loud backtrack and lipsyncing the whole time. Just give us wendy solo concert with live band!!
@@wendydarl it’s not about not being able to, it’s about just not doing it. Wendy barely had any moments of singing below C which is why she could project more properly since it’s easier to do. Lower notes require more core strength which isn’t there while moving
@@izonexbae Meaning, the ones responsible for the low reg never train enough to develop their low reg even in their 10 years. Meaning, as you said, they didn't do it because they couldn't. So... skill, dynamics, and stamina issues all at once? That's even worse.
joy 💚
Wendy is just something else
They really have the ability to sync their vocals on the chorus❤
Our stable goddesses. Seulgi, Joy and Wendy's abilities to sing and belt so high while doing the dynamic movement they do.
Ten years!! And they still are able to capture our attention. They've just gotten better
Wendy hardcarried as usual
Wendy paling stabil di sinii😮😮
Wendy best 3rd gen vocalist
Mamamoo best 3rd gen vocal group
1:20 that was really good !
Joy ❤❤❤
this one was live or pre-recorded?i wish it was live finally! sm let the girls sing live 😭
Live vocals with MR.
and Wendy always hard carrying this group in their live perf...tbh I believe Wendy wanted to perform this live in all music shows just like what she did on her solo, but well it's a group and members can't do what she can
It seems like the mics where lowered and Wendy singing loudly as she use to that's why she's clear and the ai probably distorted the actual mics vs the backtrack, the backtrack is so loud af you can even find a shift in Wendy's voice sometimes.
I recommend watching the other ones so you can clearly hear everyone since this one seems struggling to find the mic feedback lol
girl unclench
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as said in the original performance video...
vocals started shy, but popped off!!!
and our poor yeri voice got cut off as her voice is very light and airy and the fanchants were off the chartss 📈📈📈📈
I just hear wendy's voice 😅
Is it possible to remove the fan cheers too. Like im happy for them but soooo annoying 😭
The scary group 🎉
other than wendy, all other members would get slammed if they debuted in 4th/5th gen with a stage like this lol
Facts. They they will get a hate train like lesserafim and illit, it's a shame that rn this group is no longer relevant, so no one cares about it
because red velvet songs are harder not bae bae and other shitty songs Lol. and red velvet members can actually sing well watch other videos
@@Sara-pk8wv I mean other than the chorus of this song, it's not that hard to sing (and they mostly lipsync the chorus). I know they sing well, most of them at least, but they would still get hate for not being able to sound good live /while performing/ if they were a 4th/5th gen group.
Also, keep in mind that their choreographies are super simple in comparison to most current ggs.
Shitting on rv when they have multiple videos where they dance and sing without even instrumentals...
@@goldenhime8404 lmao im not shitting on them, ik they're talented. just pointing out the double standards with newer gen idols who are judged solely based on MR removed videos
irene
10th
RV actually doesn't sing their choruses, which is a great technique so they could focus on sounding good in their own parts while dancing. We can only clearly hear them shake during their parts instead of the chorus.
Please everyone look at mr removed red velvet at the past
I know this worse but i believe they have good vocal
Nope, back then they were have good vocal. But now only wendy improved, the others regressed so much
Skill issue here, skill issue there. If they're not audible enough for music shows, they'll never be loud enough for live performance with a band.
The audio is clearly manipulated, to the point that I hear Wendy and Seulgi out of tune
yeah!! someone realized it
SEULGI VOCAL QUEEN, RV stans for REAL VOLCAS 💗💛💙💚💜
RV is so lucky to have Wendy, cause if theres no Wendy in RV, group just a standart group. Will not compared to Mamamoo, will not called as a vocal group😂
Lol using Red Velvet for clout just to compare them to Mamamoo? 🤪
nope. even wendy aint in RV, seulgi and Joy will carried hard the group. so just stick with ur old mamamoo thang.
Seulgi & Joy are good, Wendy is generally louder with her projection but the MR is just removed way too much with the other members
Who brought mamamoo?? Annoying ash
@@parkarin6743 delusional af
The fact that they put Yeri before Wendy in the bridge is straight up tragedy. Sometimes contrasts work in arts, but in this case it just highlights how far and wide the skill gap is.
What is it again the reason she's added to the group if not to pull down the age average? No vocal, dance, sale contribution, nothing. She's a better actress than she is a singer.
aren't you just hating though? yeri used to be behind in those segments that you mentioned but she's come far a lot. the idea of being set to sing before wendy being an advantage/disadvantage for her is debatable but to say that she has no contribution to anything except for acting is just a very useless thing to say.
@@FUMEXE Pointing out she's the weakest member in terms of skills (vocal, dance, stage presence, attracting sales) is not hating. I did say she's better as an actress, and I enjoyed her Blue Birthday (still the best screen project of all RV members, btw).
Good luck trying to make her appear as important as RV's main vocalist or main dancer, though.
Even wendy can cleared yeri in acting field 😭 Wendy is the best actress and voice actress in RV, she's really good in musical, dubbing and skit, if only SM allowed her to try kdrama project so more people can see how good her acting skills is
SM probably added her to attract younger audience at that time.
@@Aulait-dp8cp Made sense. RV4 had a quite high age average number in their debut, so adding her definitely pulled the age average down a bit.
Fake this is not what I heard
I agree it sounds different to the live performance, maybe cause the MR was really loud, so it was hard to remove that layer without altering the live vocals layer
Only Wendy was clearly audible through the MR throughout the performance. Idk whether the others' mics were not loud enough or they didn't project their voices enough.
The wendy one was fake too? 🥴
@@ardentthoughts9750 For me the other members were audible through most of it - only a couple times where Yeri vocal dropped for me, but I agree they were more on level with the MR vs. Wendy who always is clearly over the level of the MR. It just makes sense that it is like @agalivillalbaavila598 said that some of the live vocals are a bit muted here and there - it's not a perfect science. All we do know is Wendy's vocal is so strong and clear - plus other members so clear when they have stronger lines as well - just a lot of the members have softer or more similar to spoken tone lines also and those disappear, too
@@ardentthoughts9750basically other than wendy, the others just lipsyncing
OMG! Seulgi sounded so strained, joy and irene sounded more stable than her🤦♂️ and her fans needs to stop overhyping her vocals, they need to see this and maybe rethink their decisions in life🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Do you hate her? Lol
@@Delascrea why is it when someone is telling the OBVIOUS you always label it as a hate??? We should NORMALIZE TELLING THE TRUTH AND NOT SUGAR COAT THINGS JUST FOR THE SAKE OF NOT HURTING SOMEONES FEELINGS. This generation is soft af cant even say constructive criticism coz they will label it as hate🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@aircole1000 slow down please. If you don't hate her then just say "i don't" 🤭. Then , what do you mean with the wrods "rethink their decisions in life?" What decision, exactly?
@@Delascrea you and her fans need to stop OVERHYPING her oh so "siren" vocals, shes literally sounded like shes struggling underwater🤣 You're lucky this is not lesserafim or else she and yeri will be bombarded with "honest" comments🤷
@@aircole1000facts!! I don't understand why her fans say her voice is like a siren, when she's sounding very nasal like she's had a cold and something blocked her nose, her breathing technique like a fish running out of air, gasping. The most bizzare thing is her fans always says she's an all rounder when her singing skills are mediocre (even Joy is better than her now) and she can't rap. Wendy is the real all rounder, best vocal, best rapper and lead dancer material too
Как по мне, то это хуже могих групп, которых засерали за вокал.
на таких выступлениях в принципе редко когда поют в живут - потому что такие мероприятия созданы для шоу, а не для демонстрации умений групп.
согласна, что девочки были не так стабильны, как хотелось бы. думаю, вина в том, что см очень редко дает им возможность проявить себя в активных выступлениях (+очень редкие кб).
в "спокойных" выступлениях (где они не танцуют) у девочек очень сильные голоса, особенно у венди. у них регулярно выходят живые выступления, прямые трансляции и видео с записи треков.
ну и кажется, будто их фонограмму здесь сделали слишком громкой - в некоторых моментах особенно заметно, как сильно скачет удаление заднего плана.
считаю, что судить о голосах необходимо с концертов, где девочки все так же активно танцуют и поют, но силы их направлены на музыкальное сопровождение, а не визуальное, потому что иначе придется переснимать, а в таких шоу это очень затратно (финансово).
на таких муз шоу, во время промоушена обычно все поют под фанеру, т.к. это всё-таки тв, а там пекутся в первую очередь об идеальности картинки и звука, так что вживую петь просто нет нужды. Вокал нужно слушать хотя бы на концертах, вот там айдолы, зачастую поют вживую
+ я посмотрела другие mr с ред вельвет и на остальных своих выстаплениях они были стабильны и очень хорошо пели. думаю, что все же в этом случае либо проблемы с mr, либо с микрофонами/оборудованиями. другие выступления с космик исполнены хорошо.
You wished 😜😂
We couldn't care less about the people judging them based off a single video where even the backtrack is very loud too and Because of that it was difficult to remove it without altering the vocals!
So please!
Don't jump to conclusions so earlier!