2000 Jeep Cherokee, when death wobble kicked in, you started praying crapped your pants and hoped you could keep it between the ditches. Caleb had a slight vibration. LOL
Steering geometry is your problem! Your tie rods should be straight and flat when at ride height, and when the wheels are straight. Your tie rods are angled forward when it is straight. This causes the leverage of the tires to overcome the steering rack!
this!!!!! if his tie rods are pointing upwards at full droop, its even worse at ride height...hes getting constant bumpsteer bat each side because the tie rod is angled and pulls on the wheel on bumps causing dramatic toe changes with suspension travel..the lower you are, the worse it gets...get the tie rods/lower control arms level/flat at ride height as it was at factory ride height, and it will be dramatically better. e30s have a kit called "roll center/bump steer correction" kits that fix this exact issue when lowered a good amount, and that same concept would 100% work here!!!
@@alexrodensjo348 camber is the tires leaning inward at the top, out at the bottom! Caster is the tow in/or out of the tires. Camber Has nothing to do with the tire rods on the steering rack! Let the Adults talk.
Great video as always. However, I have a couple things to say. First, I'd like to mention that you should always have your wheels professionally balanced every time you put new tires on them. There are small differences in the thickness of the rubber of every tire that can cause what was a perfectly balanced wheel to become both statically and dynamically imbalanced. Things like tread type, sidewall thickness, belt type, and rubber compound can differ drastically between two tires of the same size and style which make the tires themselves have different balance. Secondly, I'd recommend a more permanent, less hack-y solution to the steering rack movement. Especially if you plan to drive it daily and use it to get better at drifting. The u-bolt solution may have worked a treat, but didn't entirely eliminate the issue. You said the mounting points would be difficult to replicate, so why not just cut them out of an old miata and weld them to the truck's crossmember? While you're there, you can reassess your work on the strut towers with a more skilled eye and notice flaws you wouldn't have caught when you first made them. Just a suggestion though. If it works good enough for you, then it's your choice.
The big issue is with how this fix was "engineered" as he is trying to stop lateral movement with vertical straps. Since the U-bolts don't have a ridge or anything to sit in and only have a small contact area at the nuts to resist angular flex, it's really not the proper solution for the rack moving laterally. He would be better off strengthening the existing straps and mounting points, plus switching to poly bushings. Or just creating new solid straps entirely and eliminating the bushings. Obviously that would make it very harsh for regular driving though.
ITB setups often don't increase power much on their own, generally the engine has to be a higher compression unit with massively ported heads. And, all of that adds up unfortunately. Forced induction is a whole lot more cost effective though, even if it doesn't sound as good as an N/A engine
Sasha Waxman well, only 1/16th of an inch with let’s say his 200 lbs of force with the pet bar. When the truck is using around 600-850 lbs (not exact but more then he can apply) More force, more movement
Have you seen a wheel alignment sheet before? The measurements done when carrying out an alignment is done in mm or minutes. If the rack is moving 1.5mm that throws the whole thing off. You should have an alignment done after touching any part of your steering/suspension.
That move you do with your right hand just before shifting is pretty interesting and since I noticed, I can't unsee it anymore and it's the only thing I focus on 😂
Always satisfying when you figure out an issue! Crazy just a bit of movement like that can make such a big difference. That edit with the truck was pretty cool. Not easy to do without green screen.
Winter: _"Yeah, cuz I'm still here."_ Southern Ontario here, tomorrow we got light snow on the forecast. Like 3 days ago we were in the 20 Celsius range. WTH Canada why the random Late Spring Snowdump Edit: Afaik there's snow tomorrow, there's an alert for "record cold"
@@Avetho Ugh I'm so sick of winter too. We have about 3cm foretasted overnight here too. I hate this up and down weather. Always same story every year though. I don't get my hope sup until at least June. Seems to me summer started earlier when I was a kid though. At least most of the snow on the ground (except the new snow) is gone now. I'd like to start on my deck by end of May.
Wow like the quality of the videos gone up in the last few months, everything is more profesional, the vid has a plan, and is not like "wing it". GOOD JOB G!
boy you're close to 500k :D Also, i'm glad you could figure out a solution. . and also, tell my man Pasha he's killing it with the edit process, he's the man!
I had the same issue in my GT4 celica (altrac in Murica) I changed my bushings to thicker polyurethane bushes and that did the trick but consider putting a but of rubber between the ubolt and rack otherwise you’ll rub the paint away on the rack and end up rusty
+1 for roll centre being crook, with those tie rods pointing upwards at full droop you'll be getting some serious bump steer, getting them closer to factory geometry where they'd have been pointing down will help steering feel alot hope this helps, great content as always
I like the different pace when it came to this video Caleb. Just driving, enjoying your builds, and listening to that killer exhaust is pretty awesome. Keep it up!
Show this man some real death wobble. I have a 88 chevy that will throw you off the road. Complete bump stop to bumpstop suspension flex back and forth. THATS DEATHWOBBLE
I really think it just needs a third point of contact and not those u-bolts that could wear out the casing on the rack by rubbing up on it even microscopically. There's probably a much tighter tolerance in the chassis of the factory-made Miata than any of us could hope to achieve in our garage. I think you just need to accommodate for that by welding in a third hard mount, preferably mounted longitudinally to contrast the lateral forces acting on the steering rack.
The drift Truck is a reaaly nice Project the only thing I would change are the Orange Blinkers in the front. Then it would be perfect :P Keep up the Work :)
The bushings are worn, too probably. That U bolt fix is a good idea, but you need to weld something to the rack to hold those bolts, a channel or some pipe to slip the U bolts through. And beefier U bolts.
Man I miss my ‘92 sr5 cab plus. Low rider Will have to source one out soon and get back in the game after seeing your amazing build Lucky for me they are a dime a douzen in Thailand. My second home Keep up the good work. Also I you had to put a price on this build What would it cost to build one or how much would you sell this truck if you decided to move on to another project
Put it on the lift, crank to full lock and jam it with a piece of wood or something so the wheel can’t move. have someone play with the wheel in the car while you see what’s moving or has play in the steering system
Whoever said solid axle cant drift is so totally wrong. over here in Australia, all our daily drift cars are solid axle Fords and Holdens. my "pickup" Ford falcon Ute drifts incredibly well and its not even setup for it.
Hit up discount tire. Ask for a smart weight off balance to get as close to an exact balance as you can, that should help with high speed wobble. If It is what I think is wrong
Could you please “patch” the bed like cover the chassis so you get a somewhat usable truck that would look in my opinion much better. Also the wholes for the back bumper those would make it look just amazing
I would love to have a truck like this, would be cool to take this same layout and apply it to larger trucks. I like to slide around corners in the snow in my 05 Ram and imagine that I'm drifting
I look forward to more of your content because you do shit and do it right every time and you inspire me to do stuff to my car im learning to fabricate and plan on doing some videos on my channel
for the wheel balance issue come and make sure your rooms are not bent because I took my wheels to Costco to get balanced and they balance them and didn't say anything. Later I took it to a local shop and he showed me that my wheels were actually bent.
You could have started by changing those sloppy old rack bushes for urethane based ones, but I don't think that's what was causing the wobble. IMO you've just put a band-aid on the real problem, you should have all the geometry checked out on an alignment rack.
5:47 The split pin is missing on your lower ball joint. Wouldn’t want that castle nut coming undone
Timo Keijzer bump so he sees this
Bump
Bump
Bumped
Bump
not gonna lie that "death wobble looked about like normal "smooth driving for my jeep lmao
Nameless lmfao my CJ8 is the same
Thats nothing. I was in a jeep on the highway and hit a bump and thought the car was going to self destruct.
Looked like unbalanced tires haha
I’ve had worse death wobble in a Jetta
2000 Jeep Cherokee, when death wobble kicked in, you started praying crapped your pants and hoped you could keep it between the ditches.
Caleb had a slight vibration. LOL
Steering geometry is your problem! Your tie rods should be straight and flat when at ride height, and when the wheels are straight. Your tie rods are angled forward when it is straight. This causes the leverage of the tires to overcome the steering rack!
dont you kinda want this tho when drifting for more selfsteer
Dave R. Its called camber, it helps with self steering, and more stuff, its not that good while just driving but, when drifting its an must
@@alexrodensjo348 ye you want camber and caster when drifting
this!!!!! if his tie rods are pointing upwards at full droop, its even worse at ride height...hes getting constant bumpsteer bat each side because the tie rod is angled and pulls on the wheel on bumps causing dramatic toe changes with suspension travel..the lower you are, the worse it gets...get the tie rods/lower control arms level/flat at ride height as it was at factory ride height, and it will be dramatically better. e30s have a kit called "roll center/bump steer correction" kits that fix this exact issue when lowered a good amount, and that same concept would 100% work here!!!
@@alexrodensjo348 camber is the tires leaning inward at the top, out at the bottom! Caster is the tow in/or out of the tires. Camber Has nothing to do with the tire rods on the steering rack! Let the Adults talk.
Great video as always. However, I have a couple things to say.
First, I'd like to mention that you should always have your wheels professionally balanced every time you put new tires on them. There are small differences in the thickness of the rubber of every tire that can cause what was a perfectly balanced wheel to become both statically and dynamically imbalanced. Things like tread type, sidewall thickness, belt type, and rubber compound can differ drastically between two tires of the same size and style which make the tires themselves have different balance.
Secondly, I'd recommend a more permanent, less hack-y solution to the steering rack movement. Especially if you plan to drive it daily and use it to get better at drifting. The u-bolt solution may have worked a treat, but didn't entirely eliminate the issue. You said the mounting points would be difficult to replicate, so why not just cut them out of an old miata and weld them to the truck's crossmember? While you're there, you can reassess your work on the strut towers with a more skilled eye and notice flaws you wouldn't have caught when you first made them. Just a suggestion though. If it works good enough for you, then it's your choice.
Cant believe no one else is calling this a shitty fix. Its not quite as bad as the riv-nut seat mounts, but it's up there.
K
The big issue is with how this fix was "engineered" as he is trying to stop lateral movement with vertical straps. Since the U-bolts don't have a ridge or anything to sit in and only have a small contact area at the nuts to resist angular flex, it's really not the proper solution for the rack moving laterally. He would be better off strengthening the existing straps and mounting points, plus switching to poly bushings. Or just creating new solid straps entirely and eliminating the bushings. Obviously that would make it very harsh for regular driving though.
God, that 1UZ sounds so good.
But... You know what would make it sound even better? ITB's! PLEASE!
hes going forced induction in the future
@@preludedude4765 ITB + nitrous sounds so fun
ITB setups often don't increase power much on their own, generally the engine has to be a higher compression unit with massively ported heads. And, all of that adds up unfortunately. Forced induction is a whole lot more cost effective though, even if it doesn't sound as good as an N/A engine
@@Dabagel100 its a drift car. He needs consistent stable power that he wont have to get filled up before an event.
Quest he says sounds better didnt mention anything about performance.
So interesting that the 1/16" of flex could have that much of an impact
Sasha Waxman well, only 1/16th of an inch with let’s say his 200 lbs of force with the pet bar.
When the truck is using around 600-850 lbs (not exact but more then he can apply)
More force, more movement
Also if you think about it. 1/16 of an inch and the inside of an angle get multiplied and can be a lot at the outside of an angle.
Imperial system is dumb jeeeez
@@Oskier94 always funny to see people bitch about things that are easily solved with a couple google searches
Have you seen a wheel alignment sheet before? The measurements done when carrying out an alignment is done in mm or minutes. If the rack is moving 1.5mm that throws the whole thing off. You should have an alignment done after touching any part of your steering/suspension.
That move you do with your right hand just before shifting is pretty interesting and since I noticed, I can't unsee it anymore and it's the only thing I focus on 😂
Dude I’m just gonna say. Ur rally Miata needs to be in SEMA one day
Agreed
donut Bumeper 2 bumper
Ginguim having an intro is like rob dahm having an outro. Its weird but I like it.
Always satisfying when you figure out an issue! Crazy just a bit of movement like that can make such a big difference. That edit with the truck was pretty cool. Not easy to do without green screen.
Thank Pasha for his editing skills 🤭
With a little patience you can do a lot
Is it me or did he confused left and right when pretending to steer?
camera flips the y axis
@@benfillman4049 z axis
@@benfillman4049 no it doesn't... look at the writing on the seats etc, if it was flipped the writing would be flipped
@@OfficerBreadstik the camera doesn't flip but he's looking towards the camera, his directions are backwards in comparison
You should try the miata poly bushings for the rack
Ughh I remember this on every Z32 I had. The rack bushings would blow out and the rack would shift around.
"It's summer now."
Spring: "Am I a joke to you?"
Winter: _"Yeah, cuz I'm still here."_
Southern Ontario here, tomorrow we got light snow on the forecast. Like 3 days ago we were in the 20 Celsius range. WTH Canada why the random Late Spring Snowdump
Edit: Afaik there's snow tomorrow, there's an alert for "record cold"
@@Avetho Ugh I'm so sick of winter too. We have about 3cm foretasted overnight here too. I hate this up and down weather. Always same story every year though. I don't get my hope sup until at least June. Seems to me summer started earlier when I was a kid though. At least most of the snow on the ground (except the new snow) is gone now. I'd like to start on my deck by end of May.
LOL
Wow like the quality of the videos gone up in the last few months, everything is more profesional, the vid has a plan, and is not like "wing it". GOOD JOB G!
boy you're close to 500k :D
Also, i'm glad you could figure out a solution.
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and also, tell my man Pasha he's killing it with the edit process, he's the man!
Wow I came to revisit your channel and u got 500k I used to watch when you had 20k, loved the Forza videos. Keep it up!
I had the same issue in my GT4 celica (altrac in Murica) I changed my bushings to thicker polyurethane bushes and that did the trick but consider putting a but of rubber between the ubolt and rack otherwise you’ll rub the paint away on the rack and end up rusty
+1 for roll centre being crook, with those tie rods pointing upwards at full droop you'll be getting some serious bump steer, getting them closer to factory geometry where they'd have been pointing down will help steering feel alot hope this helps, great content as always
I like the different pace when it came to this video Caleb. Just driving, enjoying your builds, and listening to that killer exhaust is pretty awesome. Keep it up!
cool driving vid man you inspired me to make my content improved :)
Holy shit that edit with swapping rallyata to truck was sick af, well done Pasha!
Gingium The magician watch him do a disappearing act half his head then his hands and arms WOW AMAZING
Man it sounds so good. And you seem so confident while driving. Love it. Keep on, i hope i get to see ur cars in person one day.
Aaaand I think you diagnosed my mustangs wobble issue. Thanks! I'll check it out on my car now.
That background swap was on point good job pasha.
The face you made when it didn’t wobble made my day lol. Thanks for that man.
Man. You're driving my dream truck. I had an Mazda B2600i. I loved that truck.
It's good to have haters man. Just means you're doing something right. 👍
I would put some brackets under the U bolts, so it doesn't put so much torque on the shaft.
Can't wait to see this with the rear mount turbo. There's a 1uz mx5 with a turbo in boot. Soooo clean.
poor pasha so much editing for that man XD. keep up the work
Show this man some real death wobble. I have a 88 chevy that will throw you off the road. Complete bump stop to bumpstop suspension flex back and forth. THATS DEATHWOBBLE
I really think it just needs a third point of contact and not those u-bolts that could wear out the casing on the rack by rubbing up on it even microscopically. There's probably a much tighter tolerance in the chassis of the factory-made Miata than any of us could hope to achieve in our garage. I think you just need to accommodate for that by welding in a third hard mount, preferably mounted longitudinally to contrast the lateral forces acting on the steering rack.
Damn my boy gingium has all his cars engine swapped. (Except for molly but soon)
You don't know death wobble till you own a lifted jeep lol
Or a small car that shouldn't pass inspection at 180 on the highway, aka my focus
Or Any older Dodge Ram lol
Too true
Word.
Lol try speed wobble on a crotch rocket noobs
Pretty crazy you were drifting it like that. I would have thought responsive steering was a must for drifting
The drift Truck is a reaaly nice Project
the only thing I would change are the Orange Blinkers in the front.
Then it would be perfect :P
Keep up the Work :)
I love your videos and you thank you for making me want to succeed my goals to get a miata an it makes me smile to hear how ypur truck sounds
So glad you are sticking with a supercharger and not whirly boys!!!
The bushings are worn, too probably. That U bolt fix is a good idea, but you need to weld something to the rack to hold those bolts, a channel or some pipe to slip the U bolts through. And beefier U bolts.
rotate your rear tyres to the front ,you may have weird tyre wear from running with the rack loose .see if the wobble moves
Man I miss my ‘92 sr5 cab plus. Low rider
Will have to source one out soon and get back in the game after seeing your amazing build
Lucky for me they are a dime a douzen in Thailand. My second home
Keep up the good work.
Also I you had to put a price on this build What would it cost to build one or how much would you sell this truck if you decided to move on to another project
Nice job in the edits pasha 🤣👌
Add some rubber underneath the u bolts absorb some of the impact and vibration more 👍
Good Job Pasha
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Put it on the lift, crank to full lock and jam it with a piece of wood or something so the wheel can’t move. have someone play with the wheel in the car while you see what’s moving or has play in the steering system
Superpro makes poly bushings for the miata rack. Made a difference on my car.
poor gingium, so nearly 500 k subs lol youve been there forever!
Whoever said solid axle cant drift is so totally wrong. over here in Australia, all our daily drift cars are solid axle Fords and Holdens. my "pickup" Ford falcon Ute drifts incredibly well and its not even setup for it.
Whoever said that is an idiot. The AE86 is the probably the most iconic drift car ever made and it has a solid rear axle.
Aussie Aussie Aussie
Luke Hindle solid axles are awesome for drifting. Hell, Vaughan gittin ran one in his wining fd car until like 2015 without any issues
You should get some poly steering track bushings for extra support
Hit up discount tire. Ask for a smart weight off balance to get as close to an exact balance as you can, that should help with high speed wobble. If It is what I think is wrong
15:39 that sounded so good
Discs that are starting to warp or have warped can cause a vibe in the steering wheel similar to wheel weights missing from personal experience.
i like how he basically just made it into what a short box obs chevy is, still a dope truck lol
Good job caleb, u the man!
Could you please “patch” the bed like cover the chassis so you get a somewhat usable truck that would look in my opinion much better. Also the wholes for the back bumper those would make it look just amazing
He's planning on doing that
“Brembo” or “Power Stop” Big Brake Kit???
Whatever you can afford
@@BravenR exactly!!!
2nd gear goes to 70!? 😍 I' love that kind of gearbox, mine goes 75 in 5th at 4k rpm 😂
Yeah thats not the gearbox...
I miss you Pasha
zee rowe I miss you too!
I would love to have a truck like this, would be cool to take this same layout and apply it to larger trucks.
I like to slide around corners in the snow in my 05 Ram and imagine that I'm drifting
Try to also changing out the inner and the outer tie rod ends that are on the rack itself
Rally Miata nice and all but can't wait for to see the truck rip it again
You should repair the exhaust hole, and add a nascar boom tube coming out the side
You should do a video with just driving the drift truck with the great sounds it would be amazing!
looking at when you were prying on the steering rack it almost looks like the hole frame is moving. not the rack in the mount.
If you get the brake calipers that came on the Mazda B2200 4X4 you are going to have the braking power you need
We need a full exhaust sound video on the drift truck that 1uz sounds so good
Is the rack new or do you need to rebuild it , could it be inside the rack.good luck great videos.
make sure you have atleast 2-5 degrees of caster. so the wheels want to center them self. some times more.
4:38 more people need to understand this
the pov was reminiscent to forza, great work dude
two words, roadforce balance. So much better than a regular tire balance.
I look forward to more of your content because you do shit and do it right every time and you inspire me to do stuff to my car im learning to fabricate and plan on doing some videos on my channel
Has that dent always been on the bumper? I don’t remember it being there...
when can we see the new daily?
Check your pinion angle of your differential. If it's out, it'll cause a vibration from the driveshaft
Bring drift truck to Freedom Factory , have some Bald Eagles.
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yep, that's me, i guess you're wondering how i got here, well here's my story...
Thatdudeinblue should review the drift truck and the AWD miata I'd love to watch that!
This man has a big brain
such a sick daily
for the wheel balance issue come and make sure your rooms are not bent because I took my wheels to Costco to get balanced and they balance them and didn't say anything. Later I took it to a local shop and he showed me that my wheels were actually bent.
0:25 when the boys come over to chill😂😂😂
😳😳😳
Love the color of your shirt
I know that supercharging the truck would be fun but i think you should keep it as a seat time car
Love from Michoacán, México 🤠
Love that truck 😁 you should add supercharger 😀👍
nooo throw some shanghai swirly boys on that 1uz! just put the earlier model rods on it, you're gonna bend those rods quick with boost.
dam luckily you didn't fail the steering rack
Not gonna lie we need those 4k vids brooo but all love keep up the dedication and good work
Just subbed, almost to 500K!
This thing would be like the perfect drift week car
Is the shacking you feel when you brake or all the time? It could be worn bearing or brakes. Could also be a bad balance
I think you should mix two things you know very well, a miata, and a 1uz.
Almost 500k subs!!
You should put some rubber in between the ubolts to see if it will help some more
I would definitely atleast throw some tac welds on the u bolt part where it's on the rack
You could have started by changing those sloppy old rack bushes for urethane based ones, but I don't think that's what was causing the wobble. IMO you've just put a band-aid on the real problem, you should have all the geometry checked out on an alignment rack.