What is the future of Armenia's geopolitical situation? | DW News
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2023
- Armenia has been struggling to cope with the aftermath of the crisis. In just a matter of days, almost all of the enclave's population - ethnic Armenians numbering over 100,000 people - have fled to Armenia. There's anger there at the country's old ally Russia - for doing nothing to stop the Azerbaijani army from taking control of Nagorno-Karabakh. While some Armenians now hope to forge closer ties with Europe instead of Russia, their geopolitical situation leaves no easy answers.
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#Armenia #Azerbaijan #Nagorno-Karabakh
Lesson for Armenia and others - DO NOT relay on Russia. Russia betrayed people of Nagorno-Karabakh , Russia betrayed its traditional ally Armenia. Russia preferred short term political / economical gain from selling own oil/gas to Europe under Azeri name and betrayed its century old ally Armenia.
Вы во всем правы, кроме одного. Не Армения навязывалась, а Россия. 30 лет Арменией правил карабахский клан , который представлял Российский КГБ. Нам только в 2018 удалось свернуть власть этих людей и до сих пор в моей стране не стабильно из за них.
It is too simple to give all the blame to Russia. We tend to forget that Azerbaijan was supported by Turkey, and Turkey is a Nato member. So I wouldn't blame Russia until we deal with our own shortcomings, Nato always tends to avoid its responsibility by pointing at others
@@gabrielepicco3582 the difference is that Turkey always been openly and actively supporting Azerbaijan by all possible means while Russia on the paper was guarantor of safety of people of Artsakh. As of today population of Artsakh been forcibly displaced after 9 months blockade. Both displacement and blockade were organized and carried by Russia Turkey, Azerbaijan partnership. Also on the paper Russia is guarantor of Armenia's sovereignty but when Azeri troops invaded deep inside Armenia, Russia found all kind of excuses not to interfere. At this point there are very little doubts that all those acts against Armenians been organized and carried out by combined Russia Turkey partnership via their puppets Azerbaijan
@@gabrielepicco3582 Why should the whole of N.A.T.O. be dragged down by the actions of Turkey?
@erikthomsen4768 because nobody from nato pressed Turkey on the issue, while everyone is blaming Russia. Too easy and convenient. That is clearly uneven behaviour. Plus, many nato countries are buying gas and oil from Azerbaijan, foraging the war. I am sorry, but I really think we hold accountability for this
As an Armenian, I believe that the idea of Armenia adopting a strategy similar to its neighbor, Georgia, which involves distancing itself from Russia and its alliances, has the potential to promote peace, stability, and economic development in the aftermath of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. However, I have concerns about whether our government possesses the necessary expertise and professionals to execute such a complex and long-term shift successfully. This endeavor would require meticulous planning, skillful diplomacy, and unwavering commitment to overcome the unique challenges and dynamics of our region.
However, unlike Armenia, Georgia is in ggod terms with both Turkey and Azerbaijan...
@@83cosdino Emulating Georgia's strategy isn't about copying, as each nation's path is indeed unique. It's about adapting that vector and lessons from the experiences of others.
have you seen what is happening in Georgia lately?
@@3dtechnologies153 I was there a few days ago, and everything is okay. If you have any other information, please let me know.
@@SamZakeyan but my pointbis that Armenia was not left with any options from the moment the situation in Nagorno spilled into full scale war in 1992.
With the Ukrainian war, Azerbaijani has become more importantly geopolitically because of its oil reserves and close relationship with Turkey, Both Russia, US and EU see relations with it as more important than Armenia, who now appear to have no close allies. The use of weapons systems from Turkey such as drones, were used to enable this victory in Nagorno-Karabakh and Armenia didn't intervene because of the threat to the country itself given the changed geopolitical situation.
No they do not see their ties with Azerbaijan more importantly, they see Armenia AS importantly, if not more. If they considered Azerbaijan so important, they would not refuse Aliyev‘a request to include Erdogan in Granada. Azerbaijan is ruled by an petro-oligarch who is collaborating with Putin and Erdogan. Man can not have two masters, eventually one will force the other out. European leaders tolerate Aliyev and Erdogan because they are there but only for that reason. They do not trust them. But they back Armenia and their actions speak louder than your simple analysis.
Thats all Azerbaijan is, another country that can be leveraged for its oil reserves. Armenia is just located in a terrible place. But one thing is for sure, the Armenian people are ready for war. Azerbaijan's military is strong, but the Armenian peoples will is stronger. Especially with France and India funneling arms shipments into the country. Hopefully this is enough of a deterrent for Azerbaijan. Or else it'll turn into a bloody war and eventually lead into a stalemate.
@@raintv4343bro Armenia is only 3milion, chill.
@@dman5501dont forget about the 10 million wealthy and influential Armenian diaspora, the main ally Armenia depends on for support. Armenia doesnt have oil, but they are a well educated, nationalistic and talented people, with a very high literacy rate, thats their main resource. They also have old traditions and rich culture.
@@raintv4343India supports Armenia whole heartedly, there won't be another Armenian genocide
Not a single mention about Georgia's perspective on this.
Because then they will hear something about Armenia that the Armenian lobby will not like. Georgia is a strategic partner of Azerbaijan, also because it has witnessed Armenia’s aggressiveness for 35 years.
Georgia is not bothered by its neighbours apart from in Abkhazia and South Ossetia by Russia who occupies these lands
Georgia is actually neutral but geopolitically and culturally more aligned with Armenia
@@dman5501 How can Russia occupy the lands to which it was invited by the peoples of these independent democratic countries themselves?
@@haykk5375 It is absolutely obvious that you are somewhere very far from our region and do not know the situation. Georgia is a strategic partner of Azerbaijan. At the same time, Armenia is a strategic partner of Iran and Russia. No matter what the Armenians shout about, they are in a military and economic union with these two countries. If you are interested in this topic, there is a lot of information on the Internet from the Armenians themselves. Georgia and Azerbaijan have many joint economic projects. During the 44-day war, Georgia closed its skies to military aid from Russia. And lastly, Armenia not only lays claim to Turkish and Azerbaijani lands, it also lays claim to Georgian lands.The aggressive policy of Armenia has already led to the outflow of the Armenian population from Armenia, and if Armenia does not change its attitude towards its neighbors, this will continue due to economic lag.
It seems depopulation is a bigger threat to Armenia than any foreign enemy. Only about 3 000 000 people live in Armenia, the size of a megapolis in the USA. The goverment must take measures to make life better for the people and maintain peace. Hopefully Karabakh will not be a problem any more.
Armenia is small but demographically has positive net migration recently and positive natural change, so no, depopulation is not a threat
>Only about 3 000 000 people live in Armenia, the size of a megapolis in the USA.
Are you deranged comparing state and city? Lets cut the city from the map and see how many _days_ it take to population to die. Why not compare population density in state and concert hall or Word cup footbal match?
How about this: Armenia - 29 743sq km = 3mil, state Nevada US - 286 367 sq km = 3mil?🤣 It seems Armenia ten times better then US?
Armenia is a positive prospect. Beautiful country with wonderful people.
I had planned to move there but the cost of living and rent has gone sky high ever since many russians fled their country since the start of the war with Ukraine. Many because of the sanctions and others because of the fear of being drafted.
@@4kfilmbox
They have Kim Kardashian … she’s good at leaked sex tapes … that could help the Armenia economy 😂
It's so difficult to invest in Armenia when you can potentially loose everything so easily plus it dosent help that the Armenian they speak is hard to understand I'm an Armenian from Canada and I find there Armenian difficult to understand :(
Yes! The Armenian state is in danger of extermination, because both Turkey and Azerbaijan think Armenia is occupied turkish lands. They may try to dismantle the whole state or weaken it significantly..
no one wants that in turkey except for marginal ultra nationalists. Our state wishes a corridor between turkey and azerbaijan proper though which can be achieved by many ways other than destroying armenia besides all the headache of turko armenian relations since the genocide and the aftermath of the first ww are still felt deeply by the public. turks are not some bloody lunatics like you think, many people here sympathize with armenains too since no matter what we turks and armenians are closer to each other than any of us will ever be close to other europeans and west asians.
Erdogoon is surely a lunatic, and he is leader of Turkey so what some Turks think does not matter@@s.p9638
I've never heard that in Turkey. Honestly no one even talks about Armenia at all. You probably get your news from the wrong sources.
Armanians should start new independent state in France
And Germany!
😂😂😂😜🤭
.. to establish a state of their own in France or in Germany would be taking the friendship too far for both states. But they could buy houses or apartments in California, France, Germany, that would work.
@@metehangokturk9696 that would work likely starting from Kardashian family in that Cities...😜😅🤭
AND YOU WILL SELECT ARMENIAN PROPERTY YOU STILL USE ARMENIAN TABLEWARE AND ARMENIAN THINGS IN BAKU . WILD SOCIETY
I would say Armenia is safe now, but I could be wrong. They should seek stronger allies immediately
Your wrong sadly don’t cry tho.
They are already doing so. Just read between the lines of the headlines ol in the past two weeks.
Russia for example. What do you think about it? At least Russia does not have Africans to play equality. You know Blues and Jazz???
Why they can't make Football players from Armenians, Opera Singers, Pianists, Top programmers, Tech Hub from Armenia? Ever thought of underlying issues, such as health? or healthcare? America believes in Salmon not salmonella. Basically Badrjanov mard ches sarqi.
Armenia chose to rely on Russia, and although Russian people are good generally, there is a political problem, and America still supports Armenia.
Chose? Doesn't sound like a choice to me.
When Armenia relied on Russia, it expanded its lands and its people. As soon as she relied on the US and the EU. She's lost everything
@@user-hj4md8fn8wnot as simple after helping Armenia to be obsinate from 1994 , in 2018 Russia supported Azerbaijan on the grounds of international law whilst has grabbed Crimea and support Donbas and separatism in Georgia and a little over a year after concurring with Azerbaijan to attack Armenia went to invade Ukraine and attempts annexation and devastated much of the country and fails to uphold it's legal responsibility and seems genuinely surprised by Armenia giving up on them
Armenia never chose Russia - historically it was under full dependence from Russia after red army's occupation in 1920s up until recently. Now Armenia is asserting its sovereignty.
Chose - how was it ever a choice? Most Armenians hate Russia and it’s influence, this current crisis happened because Armenia had a democratic coup and voted a pro-American leader, and Russians to punish Armenia gave the Turks a green light to do what they want. Just like they chose to punish Ukraine for turning pro-West a similar way, only difference it hasn’t worked in that case (yet) and that the West supports Ukraine while it barely even knows Armenia exists (outside of its leaders who sweet talk Armenia in peacetime but do noting when it needs help asides from political condemnation - not attacking you on this, it’s hard for the West to help but surely you could least sanction them).
Stay strong Armenia. Greetings from Serbia.
I think Armenia has a great future. It should reach out to the other smaller countries in the region - Georgia, Romania, and Bulgaria, as well as Iran, the Arab countries, India, Israel and Japan.
😊as an indian i always love Armenia and want to visit this beautiful country. Armenia better invite indians for investment. Its for sure a friendly indian presence there will deter any aggressor there
Go you will find out and run away very quickly. G luck
@@Abdulgur15 forget it. We deal with such warring dogs daily in kashmir
Smelly Hindus always side with the loosing side 😂
@@Abdulgur15 no he wont abdul
You are most welcome to Armenia. We love, respect and thank you for your kind words.
I feel sorry for the civilians ❤
The best way out for Armenia would be to sign a peace treaty with Azerbaijan and thereby improve relations with Türkiye. This would also improve the economic situation of Armenia.
Turky and Azeris want more and more, they dont want peace, have you seen the last Actions of Azerbaidchan= It is exodus of Armenian people.
You are right! Türkiye would even open its Armenian border that would be beneficial for the whole area.
Turkey doesn’t even acknowledge the Armenian genocide, so Armenians are right to feel scared. Plus Turkey militarily supports Azerbaijan, it would be weird and deceptive if Turkey actually wanted to improve relations with Armenia
@@svart7716 Turkey would never befriend Armenia. They can’t even acknowledge/accept the evil they committed against Armenia and continually fun a country that promotes ethnic cleansing against Armenia. Turkey “opening its border” is a lion opening its mouth for a gazelle to walk into
If your friend is Russia, thats what happens 😐
I dont think Armenia can relay on EU or the US, Russia or Georgia was maybe their only friend in Middle East😢
I love Armenian people.
For the better furture Armenia should get stronger militarily and develop economically. I dont know why Georgia and Russia not helping Armenia in this conflict...
I think its a tough decision for Armenia to make friend with the America. Which russia hates...At this point of time have a good relationship with Russia..
❤ Armenia.
I hope they join the west, we are stronger together and I hope we become allies
same
maybe eu can accept armenia someday but it never happen in nato because turkey will veto. It's not my hope, just facts
@@burakdilek8275Armenia shares boundaries with Iran and they are close allies. Armenia is not a European country.
hahaha west is weak now
Azerbaijan gets alot of equipment from Isreal ans Turkey. America buys crude oil from Azerbaijan. Armenia isn’t important or relevant enough for the west.
I hope Armenia joins the west we need honest friends and partners
You really think the West is going to help Armenia nope sir
You forgot to tell what Armenia did to Azerbaijan in the 90's, its just tit for tat!
It doesn’t work like that you !mbecile
You forget the murder of Armenians in Baku and other cities which led to the succession of Karabakh
They didn't feel safe.... with good reason 💀
Yes, Karma strikes back!
Ложь у вас с наследством связан.азербаиджан создал ленин так что не гафкаите много голос потеряете
in geopolitics, who always have a strong army, a lot of money always win. I don't blame both side, that's how geopolitics works. The only I pity is the civilians getting caught in the crossfire of ambitious leader punching each other.
Armenians had the chance to solve this problem for 30 years. Instead Armenians kept provoking Azerbaijan. Now they are crying. Too late.
I am a bit confused: Did Azerbaijan build a state within the state of Armenia? It is very interesting how DW reports about Armenian fears (fear of their very existence as a state) without putting this information into the context of recent history.
It’s a bit complex.
This a region Nagorno-Karabakh that is inside Azerbaijani territory, but it’s populated by ethnic Armenians for centuries. Actually given current events the correct term is “it _was_ populated by ethnic Armenians for centuries” as in effect an ethnic cleanse is happening whichever way you look at it.
In recent past, as in decades ago* , Nagorno-Karabakh yearned to be more independent to be a Republic. In previous ceasefires agreements Azerbaijan promised greater autonomy for the region but then U-turned.
*Nagorno-Karabakh yearned for independence and have own Republic back in USSR times, USSR couldn’t allow this and instead gave the territory to Azerbaijan.
Not all countries in UN recognize Nagorno-Karabakh as being part of Azerbaijan, some only accepted it as condition to stability of the region back when USSR gave this region to Azerbaijan.
But as we can see Azerbaijan is heavy handed (it is an authoritarian regime, very similar to Putin’s regime), the premise “stability of the region” is not warranted.
@@lv3609,
Thank you very much for your reply.
Execly DW is sided with Armenian no morality in their news ! Azerbaijan took their land back
@@Jayjay1907_
Azerbaijan took a heavy handed militaristic intervention over Armenian minority in Nagorno-Karabakh. Those Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh lived there for centuries.
The narrative that Armenia (as a country) or Armenia militarily in Nagorno-Karabakh doesn’t hold as it was Russia military tasked as peace keeping force (look like Russia backstabbed Armenia).
The region yearned for own independent status (a Republic) since long time, way in USSR time.
@@lv3609Well said!
If Azerbaijan took part of Armenian land and I suggest armenia also do same by taking Azerbaijan land near armenia. Fair enough
Well (or not well...), there come times when you get to regret past made mistakes... (in geopolitical orientation and allies).
DW belongs to India and Germany so cannot expect truth 😂
France is not happy that has cicked out of Africa humiliated and looking for a new stooge. Armenia is not the stooge of Russia anymore and is available to be taken and south Caucasus looks a yummy bite for France. 😂😂😂
Regional powers (Russia, Türkiye, Iran) will not welcome outsiders. France or any other country has no chance here.
No because theyve got a whole other country outside of the part of another country they claim.
Love to Armenia from the UK ❤
This is an interesting question, since it will depend on the will of Azerbaijan and Turkey to go far or not.
If Turkey and Azerbaijan decide that the war should better end there, it won't influence the others to take actions. Overall, Karabakh is internationally recognised as Azerbaijani, so it is just a matter of time if the region is about to be retaken by Baku.
However, if this means the kickstart of a new pan-Turkist imperialism, it'll be very different. With regard to this, it could lead to significant repercussions. With this regard, the West's unified response against an aggressive Russia should be a stark reminder for Turkey that no matter how powerful Turkey is, it has little sympathisers, and not even Israel will defend them. Meanwhile, both India and China are also watching, since they have their own resentments against both the Oghuz Turkic countries for backing Pakistan and Uyghurs, and will take opportunities to weaken Turkey as soon as possible. The Arab world, long scarred by the Ottoman rule, won't side with the Turks and Azerbaijanis, they remembered the execution of Arab intellectuals and independent fighters by the Ottomans.
But given pan-Turkist's history and recent publishing of Turkish nationalists about helping Azerbaijan to erase Armenia's existence, I think they will go at length. And Putin helped enabling that as an exchange to overcome sanctions.
Turks are the ones who were always fought and defeated imperialists, you are lack of alot of observations
@@Kultigin-ck5rcisn't ottoman empire consider as imperialistic??😂turkish paranoia as usual
@@panosgeorgedimitriou2290 well you cant say that if the empire giving every Nation the freedoms at anything on the empire thats why you arent speaking Turkish today instead of greek my friend what languages africans speaking today and america?
None of the turkic ideologies include oppression or cleansing minors, unless they threaten the integrity with terrorism. There are hundreds of minorities living in turkic countries and vice versa turks living as minorities in other societies where they do not oppress anyone. So, its not the turkic ideology threat to armenian government, its an armenian nationalism that pushes them to war with neighbours. And I personally do not see armenians recognizing this or the government doing anything about it.
@@AggieAze lol..I just remember a genocide which nobody talks and that happened in 1571 ad which it was the first time turks invade Cyprus and from a total population of 90.000 people they killed 20.000 people and sell as slaves 60.000 people.there is a reason nobody likes the turks and that reason is their numberous crimes
1:50 Arno returned to Armenia from Russia after the start of the war between Russia and Ukraine. Let’s add to this that he fled from Russia in order not to be drafted into the war, just as he once fled from Armenia to Russia in order to avoid being drafted into the war with Azerbaijan. A true patriot of his country.
Quite easy to judge when you live in a peaceful country.
Armenia didnt draft anyone. If they had there would still be fighting in karapagh to this moment.
Don't think for a second that armenians are afraid of a fight. If our motherland is in danger we will fight and march all the way to the gates of baku itself (like they should have done in the 90's. Be glad russia brokered a peace deal back then).
how do you know all his details?
@@shaqueha.5017 he doesnt. Its all assumptions. Its all fue to the brainwashing he has been fed throughout his while life.
@@massey81 Tell that to the housewives on BBC, they might believe it. You are right about one thing: you reached Baku, only not all of them, but leaders, and even then in handcuffs and under duress.
Yes...😢
Armenia want to severe ties with Russia, if i were Putin id be happily obliged and watch Azerbaijan take more Armenian land with no one stop it.
Is people in comments dumb or they just hypocrites, The war since 30 years have been and was in Azerbaijani land that is that is internationally recognized by all the countries in the world
The question is why it was azeri land in firstplace? NK was home for armenians for hundreds of years. Azeris only came as rulers in that town.
Soviets decided to give that area to azeri soviet and it got stuck. In todays nations states era, it makes no sense.
You don’t tell the whole story, only the part you like.
You are describing yourself, you don’t know anything about the events preceding or during the first Karabakh, you’re just an ignorant Arab/Pakistani/Turk…
@@eget4144but the Azerbaijani lands outside of NK that Armenia occupied for 30 years in 90% of population was ethnic Azeri, there was no problem then?
@@eget4144
"The question is why it was azeri land in firstplace?"
Umm because it sits within Azerbaijani territory? You do recognize the problem with creating ethnic enclaves and granting them independence, right? No sane country would tolerate such an entity.
" NK was home for armenians for hundreds of years."
That's irrelevant.
"Azeris only came as rulers in that town."
So, obviously the Armenians were never running the show, huh?
"In todays nations states era, it makes no sense."
In your understanding of a "nation state" maybe. Perhaps the Armenians should have proposed a land swap. They could have given zangezur in exchange for Nagorno Karabagh and Kelbejar, but they wanted it all. The Diaspora also claims "western armenia" and "javakh".
Azerbaijan has already described Southern Armenia and South Azerbaijan. Their ambitions go way beyond recovering their land, they actually want to invade Armenia and that shouldn't be tolerated.
You can tolerate what you want. We know germans tolerated 30 years armenians invading azerbaijan so you have great tolerance. Maybe you can help armenia with war reparations
@@Samirustem If the Turks and Azeris admit the genocide on 1.8 million Armenians, then we can talk about reparations.
@@CaptainConditorarmanians killed lots of Turkish and Kurdish people in anatolia and you talking about genocide why armanians doesn't want to open offical books and see what really happened
@@turkishcypriot8013
Sure and who lives there now??
That should tell you all you need to know
@@turkishcypriot8013bullshit you are not cypriot cyprus is greek and always will be greek
Armenians, We have Jesus, isn’t this better than anything?
Praise God! He will never leave us because we accepted Jesus first as a Savior for our nation!
As an Armenian I still have The Hope in God. Please brothers and sisters in Jesus please pray for my nation and people and thank you in advance to God and you all! God bless you!!!
The problems main reason was created by Stalin. He planted the problem. In the history, Karabakh have been Turkish land. After the 1828 Turk-Russo War, so many people was migrated mutually. Especially The Armenians were placed around of Erivan. Before this war Erivan was a Turkish city and it name was Revan. After this war, there was a lot of population movements. It should not be forgotten that according to the first Russian-held census of 1823, conducted by Russian officials Yermolov and Mogilevsky, Shusha had 1,111 (72.5%) Azerbaijani families and 421 (27.5%) Armenian families. The census of 1897 showed 25,656 inhabitants, 56.5% of them Armenian and 43.2% Azerbaijani. As you see, this region was Armenianized. Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, Armenia has been a Russian colony. Every politicians, especially come from Karabakh, got involved in corruption, didn't think about Armenians poorality and were Pro-Russian. This brought nothing but poverty to Armenia. Yes, Armenia could unfairly hold Karabakh that way. I think Pashinyan would like to change Armenians destiny. He wanted to get rid of the Russian yoke. Absoluetly Putin have left him but sooner or later the Turks would take back Karabakh. Maybe despite Putin.The Turks gained back Karabakh even though Russians(Putin). Empty words of Pro-Russian politicians like Kocharian or Sargsyan do not help Armenians. Open the Zangezur corridor, sign the peace agreement and then Turkey will open borders to Armenia. Neither Iran nor any other country can give you wealth. If the Rusophiles come to power again, Armenia's poverty and isolation will continue. There is blood between us. We have done very bad things to each other throughout history. But we can still live in PEACE.
We will stand up and will exist.
Sure, just not in another country's legitimate territory. You cannot just occupy other's land for 30 whole years and still play the victim. Doesn't work that way my dear.
No Mongol "turks" existed in Anatolia before 400 AD. Please go join your Yakut brothers.
@@amoebic who gives a f? It is not imporrant or relrcant who was where first. It is important who owns it legally and legitimately TODAY. And that is Azerbaijan. Do you expect the US or Australia to eliminate their Government and leave just because there was someone else living on that soil before? And who was living there before Armenians? Someone else. So get over it.
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Why is DW doing every story from the perspective of Armenia? From what I see, Azerbaijan had an armed rebellion in their territory and they solved it without shedding any blood. How are they the “enemy” in this scenario? If every armed conflict was solved with such restraint, the world would be so much better.
White Supremacy and Racism
Over 4000 died on both sides just in 2020, not counting about 600 since then.
@@sashasokolova3975600 on both sides is very restrained for such an operation
Because it’s a Western and European puppet network which is founded on colonialism and aggression on others. It’s sad that they don’t talk about the almost a million of Azeris forced from their homes and thousands killed three decades ago when Armenia had the upper hand. You need to deal with the reality on the ground. Azerbaijan just took back total control of its own territory as the enclave was internationally recognized as Azerbaijan. You are calling for war but this time it will be a disaster
@@sashasokolova3975 That was part of the long-running armed conflict, in which a lot of lives were lost indeed. I believe what the OP is referring to is the latest operation that was relatively short and much less violent.
I also feel pity to Armenians and Armenia how they're under trouble from the neglect and threat from many sides. Just hope the people and country keep safe and long live 🙏🙏
Russia occupied Ukraine - Bad
Russia occupied Georgia - Bad
Russia occupied Moldova - Bad
Armenia occupied Azerbaijan - good?!
4 UN SC resolutions requested to withdrawal of armenian forces out of Azerbaijan...and Azerbaijan waited 30 years to wipe out all occupants.
Long Live Armenia 🇦🇲
Only one thing I would never forgive or forget is BETRAYAL.Vladimir Putin.
This is what happens when you occupy other’s land for a decades and when the owner liberates its lands! Karabakh is Azerbaijan! 🇦🇿
Don't worry. You will pay for occupying Armenian soil for the last 200 years till now
dumb tribalism over a patch of dirt not worth spilling inocent lives over either split it in half or give it to the un and no one gets it
Lol, the fact that Stalin gifted that land to Azerbaijan during USSR, doesn’t make it Azerbaijani land
Eurooea should support Armenia and Kurds same way they support Greece.
Please continue cover on this one.
What document? Nagorno karabakh is not contested. France anounces they will arm armenia and expects to host talks? If you want to arm armenia maybe you are not best person to hold talks. Talks should be held in georgia our neighbor. Not russia not europe.
Turkey arming Az, why should they be in talks?
France and Germany should not stick their noses into this matter. They do not have the right not to want Turkey, which is a neighboring country.
@@sashasokolova3975
If France is, Turkey should be in there too. Get a neutral country in there, like South Korea, if you dare.
Turkey has no right to be there. @@ermancetn
Azerbaijan taking control of Nagorno-Karabakh, which is internationally recognized land of Azerbaijan? Of course, it should take control 😂
"Good Bye,Ramenia"
Armenia should united with Georgia they are cultural similar
People here focus a lot on Russia, but Armenia has also been a major player in helping Iran evade sanctions. Many things that are imported to Armenia actually are meant for Iran.
It's good. Democratic countries should help each other
And where is your source for that? Most importantly, who is buying those sanctioned Iranian products from Armenia? I don't see Armenia exporting any oil to EU, unlike Azerbaijan, who are laundering the same Russian natural gas to EU at a hefty markup.
He is just a Turk throwing mud
Europe on Ukraine: send aid .
Europe on Armenia: 🙈🙉🙉
France sent aid to Armenia, already. Europe is helding talks with Armenia.
Cuz, Armenia is occupier same like Prussia. This simple.
Like Ukraine, Azerbaijan is the occupied country. You should send help to Azerbaijan
You know that the fight was in the land of Azerbaijan that is internationally recognized by all the countries in the world ?
@@MsMmaaddNo one cares, quit spamming Azeri bot.
Armenia also has large quantities of minerals. Molybdenum, Diamonds, Copper, Mercury and others
Why are we suddenly concern to Armenia? right, someone want to give a weapons.
When the armenians commited genoside in 92 , the world was silent
To day no one can tell us about justice ! .
Nobody cares about dead Mongols. Take your "xocalı soykırımı" and stick it up your Չինացի քամակ.
War takes away the most powerful men ....who is left are the least powerful ones
I Hope so.
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🕊
That land was legally Azerbaijans
So that automatically qualifies them to ethnically cleanse it from minorities?
It never was.
Why should Russia ensure the interests of Armenia if Armenia does not ensure the interests of Russia. In international relations, no one does anything for anyone just like that. In this sense, the naivety of the Armenians is amazing.
Armenia believes in democratic laws, it wants to follow America's structure, but things were a lot harder than you imagine. Most Armenians want to live in peace. They do not want war. To be Fair we should be able to justify things. If you cannot justify, then simply survive by separating yourself from the rest of the world.
First of all, they need better friends
Armenia could have a bright future with Europe, but that´s really on Armenia how they will have to navigate the crisis with Azerbaijan..
Ermania caused terrible tragedy to azerbaycanian people 3 decades ago. Only now azerbaycan took back their land.
You'd do the same if Chinese occupied your ancient country.
As an observer I can understand from this interview that Russia created and protected Armenia. 😊
Yeah, Armenia relied it's security on Russia, and slowly become very depending on Russia.
Armenia was created at least 2500 years ago, millennia before Russia and before whatever place you're from
If Russia's adventure in Ukraine ends not only in Putin's downfall but even the breakup of the Russian Federation, then simply everything that those in this video opined instantly becomes meaningless. Especially what that one man said about "external" actors attempting to change the "balance." There is already nearly no "balance,' and if and when there is truly none left, then, again, none of these prognostications means anything at all anymore.
Where were you when there were around 1 million ethnic Azerbaijanis were expelled from Armenia and Karabagh? Now 30-40 thousand Armnians that forcefully expelled and lived in former Azerbaijani people build houses are themselves getting out of Azerbaijani buil houses?
Stand with Armenia 🇦🇲 ✊
Armenia should come closer to Georgia, and together they can approach the Atlantic areas, and in their time, in their ways, be assured of peace with their neighbors in a fair and friendly way among the peoples they live next to.
Armenians made a battalion that supported Russia and fought against Georgia in 2008 in Abkhazia. This battalion became famous for atrocities against Georgian civilians. They also have tried to advocate for separatism from Georgia, including during Georgia's time of war against Russia. There is a reason Georgians are way closer to Turkey and Azerbaijan and don't feel particularly friendly with Armenians.
Keep talking. No conflicts, talk with like minded people. Look at your neighbour's., ✌️☘️
@@andybarr6751 that is true, Bagramian battallion
@@andybarr6751Thats already been debunked as false.
@@yago6040 First of all, you were talking about 2008, so no. Second, that is a myth created by the Soviets to provoke Armenia-Georgia relations in early 90s and as pointed out was debunked as false.
Geopolitically Armenia is in deep problem. It shares the longest border with Azerbaijan and Türkiye and they have the chance turn this into revenue for their government. They need to accept the reality and recognize Azerbaijan’s territorial integrity and make a peace. Otherwise they will keep on complaining about the situation and how not other countries not coming to their help.
Brainwashing
I was wondering DW and hearing for last few month's Genocide on
Progress in Former Nk and people ate suffering and dying every day.
Could you confirm total death toll
Of Amernian 2023 and compare to
Azeri populations 1990. Put the Fact on the Table.
Azerbaijan reclaimed what is theirs. Armenia ethnically cleansed the same region in the early 90's and forced a million Azeris to flee. Azerbaijan built itself up, made the correct political decisions while Armenia kept relying on the unreliable Russians. Nagorno-Karabakh is Azeri land and only politicians seeking votes of large Armeni communities in the West could say otherwise. Armenia is one of the few situations where the country is poor, underdeveloped while Armenians outside of the country tend to be very wealthy and successful. This says much at the dysfunction of Armenia itself. Criticizing Azerbaijan in this case would be the equivalent of criticizing Ukraine 20 years from now if they manage to reclaim Mariupol.
Armenia recognised that land as Azerbaijani territory without even informing Russia first. So why should Russia defend that land?
Lies
How is Armenia poor if the increase of the economy higher than azer and higher quality of life. Besides Armenia is on top level amongst democratic countries while azer is on the same level as Sudan and Somalia. Therefore you talk nonsense. And something else: Ukraine has nothing to do with your comparison
Another Chinese crying about "OMG XOCALI SOYKIRIMI". I don't know man, maybe Mongols don't belong in the Caucasus? That's just me.
@@karinegregorian937This is funny Azerbaijan is many times stronger than Armenia
But the thing is Azerbaijan even told Armenians to stay in the Nagorno-Karabakh Karabakh if they accept the Azerbaijani citizenship and could be integrated since Karabakh is internationally recognized as part of Azerbaijan. Armenians however left but some stayed hopefully no more wars happens and Azerbaijan keeps it’s internationally recognized territories. I doubt that any Turkish state will push and start a war with Armenia itself since then it’s an actual war and not reclaiming the land back as Azerbaijan did and other countries might get involved.
I agree, no more wars. The west is on armenians side
Russia doesn't want to be seen backing a loser
The only hope that Armenia has of stopping the Turkic nations surrounding it from completing the genocide is to make themselves useful to the Americans while not offending Iran. This could be achieved by removing the Russians based in Armenia and replacing them with US military. By having US military based in Armenia the importance of the US bases in Turkey will be significantly reduced. Turkey has been demonstrating that it is not a good fit for NATO or the EU.
completing genocide?
Do you know anything about Ottoman Empires and their Demography and 1912 1915 and 1918 Populations?!
Turkia NATO Allies also Very High HDI and GDP & GDP PPP Regional POWER BUT İMPORTAND IS TURKIA, US ALLIESE MORE THAN 75 YEARS!
Whocares?!
US must be prefer Armenia because Their try to annex Karabağ but they lose them all!
US decide to armenia because US get WRONG SİDE ALL THE TIME!
btw
We all Turkic peoples BİGGEST FAMİLY İN THE WORLD.
WHENEVER WE WANT TO GET TOGETHER WHENEVER WE NEED WE CAN DO!
Yea, Russia, Turkey and Iran will just sit still and allow American bases in Armenia. Ukraine number 2, without all the Western support.
Please just because turkic people dont bow to colonials means they need to be kivk outbof the NATO..
@@joeyartk Babe! We re doenst care Armenian lands that much.
Requires just one decision to close the airspace around Armenia. US cannot afford to anger Türkiye more than it has now. Just supporting PKK in the south was enough. Armenia will cost too much for US or anybody else while offering so little. Having good relations with Azerbaijan is much more feasible and improves the relations with Türkiye while granting access to all Central Asia if US goes for Azerbaijan if it comes to that.
Armenians need to be smart, accept the reality and negotiate accordingly and become a part of what’s going on around them.
The reality of its size and strength hit Armenia like a brick wall. Misplaced ego gets you in such a situation and Armenians were riding high on borrowed muscles for so long that they forgot how dangerous their neighborhood was. I wish them well, but i fear Armenia is destined to be nothing more than a puppet slowly cannibalized by its neighbors. I think its karma for being the cause of the Kardashians. 😉
You dont know anything about history. No one takes you seriously
It was the ottomans who caused the kardashians really. If it wasn’t for them they would still live in Armenia.
Could the Armenians be seen in this humanitarian crisis as being exploited in Azerbaijan and had no option but to leave their possessions behind to seek refuge in Armenia in an ongoing conflict .The EU nerds to action Asap.
Armenia should ally with EU indeed, culturally much closer than Russia. What kind of cultural ties with Russia are you talking about other than ussr tyranny?
Is the EU ready to invest and protect Armenia in the worsed case?
@@owlmirror178 EU is ready to sell weapons at least, while Russia stopped supplying weapons although russians got the money for the weapons
>Armenia should ally with EU indeed, culturally much closer than Russia
When Armenia was sided with Russia Armenia growed.
When Pashinian codemned Russia and sided with US Armenia shrinks. Coincedence I guess.
@delta_glider4362 anyway no future with Russia, they are focused on destroying Ukraine now
@@sosanxi8648 How will EU sell weapons to Armenia ? Armenia is landlocked by 4 countries, 2 of them are Turkey and Azerbaijan which will never let any weapon get into Armenia. Another one is Iran which is an enemy of the West. Georgia is the last option and there's a massive Turkish influence over them. Also Turkey has the control of Bosphorus and wouldn't let any ship with a military aid cross the straits. Only country that can help Armenia is Iran, that's it.
Armenia is fighting against all evil right now. I wish them love, patience and strength.
Armenians are the did Genocide 1992 onvade Azeri land your idiocracy is a blist
They left on their own no one kicked them out lol 😂
Keep another country's territory under occupation about 30 years and speak about Appetite 😂😂😂😂😂.
Well first let the Armenians love each other instead of backstabbing …..then maybe they can get together against their enemies
Armenia was hosting a military exercise with the US while the same time Azerbaijan was taking Naka. Russia has long lost any patience with the current Armenian government that is more interested in pleasing the west than to protect its people.
Long live Armenia
Where in France
Armenia need to learn from Israel how they not only made a new country but became a super power in the Middle East.
But as people are saying its the end, no its not the end. Its just the beginning.
Work hard become a janitor make a use of yourself. Basically you see what comments do to each country? Put some morals in anyone and they will destroy all the small people. Somehow in US they agreed to become anyone that ruins lives, kills people, puts their lives in danger. All pays well. Why do I care about such arrogance. Then you have kindness that saves the world. Noone is above kindness or a kind person.
That would be great! But Israel supports Azerbaijan 🇦🇿
Armenia has two choises. Make a route between two Azeri territories with no taxes, or customs and have peace. Second choise is war and give southern Armenia to Azerbaijan. Armenia has left Russia and chosen West. West can not help Armenia.
If there is any existential threat to Armenia, it is not going to come from Azerbaijan or Turkey. Please understand this. Armenians just find it hard to accept that what they held illegally for years, is not theirs anymore.
Would you say the same about Turkey illegally holding the northern half of Cyprus? Would you find it justified for Cyprus and Greece to take it back from the Turks.
@@rilonius2865Conveniently ignoring how the greek cypriot were slaughtering turk cypriot, huh. Typical western hypocrites, only white lives matter as always. Turkey saved the turk cypriot from annihilation.
That’s the biggest cod’s wallop I’ve ever heard
@@rilonius2865Well said! And Karabakh was an autonomous oblast with Armenians having self governance under Soviet Azerbaijan. Also, Azerbaijan and Turkey want to invade Southern Armenia to take a corridor.
Azerbaijan and Turkey want to invade Syunik Souther Armenia and force a corridor through the Sovereign territory of Armenia. That’s a threat to Armenia’s existence! A cause for a deadly war!
Let's check some facts. Armenia has issues with 3 of its 4 neighbours. They are friendly only with Iran, but also with Russia, which doesn't even share a border with them. They chose to align with the Iran-Russia Axis against Turkey-Azerbaijan-Georgia, which are closer to Western countries. Turkey has a free trade agreement and visum-free travel with Georgia and excellent relations with Azerbaijan, but Armenia just chose to not have a piece from the pie. Some peoples just choose to be miserable.
“idk why they dont want to be our allies when we have attempted genocide on them countless times over the past 200 years”. they side with Russia for the same reason Dagestan and Chechnya sided with the Ottomans, the Russians were the only thing protecting them from you and your people. and now because of the US hate for Iran and Russia, i have to sit back and watch my taxpayer dollars get funneled into a genocide of my own people
Armenia was in a very tough situation, in the 90’s Azerbaijan started a war with it, and before that the ottomans committed a genocide against them, this is why they have poor relations with 2 countries, so in order to survive they had to ally with Iran/Russia, as bad as that is.
Hopefully that can change
I am sure that Erdogan on the behalf of Azerbaijan negotiated a deal with Russia for Russia not to intervene on Armenias behalf.
Why are you so worried about Armenians geopolitical situation ?😀 No country should rely on another country in terms of their security.
Europeans on Ukraine - we support Ukraine more than ours own life . Send aid to Ukraine.
Europeans on Armenia - what is Armenia?
The situations of the two were very different.
@@filipe5722it's same .
@@filipe5722If anything, it’s worse for Armenia than Ukraine
Armenia are friends with Ruzzia. Where is ruzzia now?
I am not taking sides, but a gerrymandering of borders to accommodate ethnic divisions is not sustainable long-term without a major power enforcing the status quo.
Did Armenia actually help Russia in the war with Ukraine to blame it rn for not helping them????😂😂😂
Why don’t you ask Turkyie or Arzeris? 🤔 why don’t you ask EU?
I hope Armenia finds it’s something race soon. What a beautiful country and the people are so nice. I hope to visit you again beautiful Armenians 🇦🇲 ❤
We must have faith in Jesus. He’s our only hope. God’s will be done on earth as it is in heaven. 🤍
Amen❤ it has. You must believe. The Lord is faithful.
Remember the year 1994.
The name is Karabakh now.
It’s always will be Arcagh, no another name
Always was Karabagh.
The name was Արցախ before the word "turk" was even known in the entire globe.
Thank you DW for seeing and reporting what is just , Armenians of Artsakh has decided to relocate where they can surely build their futures away from autocratic regime in Baku ..
Azerbaijan has a dictator who does not wage war on foreign territory. 4 UN resolutions were adopted and confirm the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan. Since 1993, when the UN resolutions were adopted, Armenia has been demanding the withdrawal of its army. Armenia refused to do so for 30 years. The "dictator" did not attack any neighboring country. Everyone knows how the Armenians helped the Russians in their attack on Georgia. As for the democracy that Armenia aspires to. Armenia's ally France is the democracy that has committed the most crimes on the African continent. France continues today to commit genocide against Africans. Your democrats are being killed all over the world and the Azerbaijani dictator has not attacked any country. A STRANGE WORLD
@@siroliver9889 history edited and narrated from one side … all too cliche ..
What is not True ?@@HKasparyan
Doubtful, erdogan and aliyev already have their sights on zangezur. Bloodthirsty warmongers will never be sated.
@@siroliver9889
Tye truth hurts them
Is Dmitriy chewing a gum while reporting live?
Please do not speak for everyone. Some see this as a great opportunity to realign the country and are prepared to implement and collaborate with other unmentioned allies.
russiantrol
@@fridmanco.4901 no….I said Other allies
One thing that I really dislike about these reports is that they only show the situation from the armenians' side. why dont you ask Azerbaijani journalists, civilians about their opinions? this is a biased journalism.
For a simple reason: most independent Azerbaijani journalist have been put in jail by the authoritarian regime there and they control the media narrative. Just look at the bots in the comments section of any video related to Azerbaijan.
Karabakh is Armenia and will always be. Without Turkey Azerbaijan is zero, but Russia was a betrayer. As a German I support Armenia.
Azerbaijan is a rich country, it has money, it can buy weapons, it has oil, but Armenia is of no use, it begs everyone and asks for help like a dog, it is a poor country.

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@@Judo-lp9ci Armenia is rich in its culture that's why Azerbaijan steals Armenia's culture or destroys it. Azerbaijan gives bribes but Armenia speaks about justice.
@@seradar5000 Turkish culture is superior to Armenian culture, the Armenian population in the world is only 10 million, but the Turkish population is 200 million
@@Judo-lp9ci My dear, population and the quality of culture are different things. We don't speak about Turkey, Turkey and Azerbaijan are different.
@@seradar5000 they were of the same nationality