I refuse to get carried away by this perfomance. I will only believe Manchester united has improved, If they can give this performance against the likes of Liverpool, Chelsea and Manchester city.
I think Ruud just made sure they were doing the fundamentals consistently which he did and let the quality in the team go and win the game. One thing I was super impressed with was the substitutions. They were BANG ON!
Looks like Erik ten hag's style of play but with the actual goals, and thinking about it bow saddens me cause I think these player's massively let ten hag down 😢
Did u see the analysis?. Not same mate. ETH more strict. RUUD more fluid. That's what RUUD said. Anyhow ETH fail to MANAGE the team. If this player problem before, THE MANAGER should solve the problem itself. THE MANAGER get his wages to solve the problem.
No, it wasn't man utd fans are allergic to Tactical understanding. Ruud used: - A double pivot with reduced spacing in between them. - A 4231 pressing structure where there were moments with clear triggers and blockage off passing lanes. - Ugarte as a pure ball winner and Cas as the brains, which was a good combination. Even the play out structure had tweaks. - Used Joshua Z for retention after that ball was won by our pivot press (usually Ugarte). on the ball the differences where minor until he used his subs correctly and brought on amad and Mazaroui, which helped us keep the ball better after the 60th minute. These were basic things that ETH was getting wrong.
@@vans9816what? You do realize they played more freely because it’s against Leicester’s bench players. We played like this against Barnsley. You can’t play like this against a team like Chelsea or Tottenham because you will be destroyed
I'm going to give the credit to Casemiro. He figured out he was being man-marked and abused the instruction. No way you anticipate this opposition assignment pre-game.
@@rafael_lanaexactly. Same like sancho at Dortmund. Got there, knew he had to prove something then got comfortable. Then did the same at Chelsea. All these players don’t have the hunger anymore with the fat paychecks they’re getting
Scoring has never been our problem in cups the players turn up more often than not and theres an above average intensity from the team. Something about the do-or-die nature of it all wakes the players up. Seeing games through is where we struggle a little but we generally pull through because of our early goals. The league is a totally different beast though, theres something "mundane" about the week in-week out games that requires discipline and commitment, leading to consistency. And honestly, a lot of these players just do not have those traits. Excited for the future but all bets are off till I see 8-10 league games with Amorim at the wheel.
It’s not about how we play in the cups it’s about how the opponents plays. In the league we’ve struggled to score because of teams dropping back and sitting in their own half meanwhile in cup games or games where the other team can’t just take a draw we have a much better chance of scoring
I didn’t see any difference between that game and what Rick did except for the fact a lot of the lucky bounces that went against Eric went for rude, and shots that we ate from 30 yards went in were normal they hit the woodwork. We just seem to get more ofthe lucky bounce but everyone’s ignoring how bad the defending was and if we were that damn good why did we concede 16 shots?😊
Yeah I think that's a fair assessment Tactically it was largely similar to Erik (with a few little tweaks) and we certainly seemed to have more luck on our side Defensively I believe the high press was alot better, but in settled play we still looked open...
Does it even matter when we won?? You can only win one way, and that's by scoring more goals than the opposition. Who cares if they get 2 3 4 10 goals... as long as we get at least one more than they do!
@@reepzmk7468 i think he and we all are worried about our players power. They can all sudden stop playing causing us points and maybe miss ucl, just because they want smoke their boss out. Its not first time. They sacked jose and all sudden started 7 game win streak. They sacked ole. They rebelled openly against ralf and bullied him. They tried to do same to eth, but he disciplined them. You guys may dont see it now, but ETH era will be transformational for future even players sacked him. He showed pressing could work. He put them in better shape. He bought us good defense line and dm (and st and winger, and cm) to be used many years. We are still little worried if this happend again and again. Rashford will hes 8th manager in 10 years very soon.. will there be 11, 12..?
@@reepzmk7468 in a league format, you want a higher goal difference than other teams. if you end up on equal points with another team, the team with the higher goal difference is placed higher. I remember, under, I think it was OGS, we had the same number of points Leicester, but we came fourth due to a higher GD. Obv, this is a cup game, so GD doesn't really matter, but you have to remember, Clean sheets will increase a goal keeper's morale - look at Onana this season; he's amongst the top for clean sheets.
@habiladam6363 the point I'm trying to make is that you cannot win a game on clean sheets. Goals equal points not clean sheets. You can have 38 clean sheets in the league and youd be battling relegation. Goals = points
@@AJAnalysis can you do an analysis of Zirkzee in the 10 based on the West Ham and Yesterday's game? And, Idk if you can see this, but doesn't Zirkzee remind you of another Dutchman (Wout Weghorst); lack of pace, bad conversion rate, poor use of physicality, etc...
@@habiladam6363Weghorst is completely different. Zirkzee is a technical player with skill on the ball and a good brain, Wout is a good pressing player and actually does have a good conversion rate (just not in the Prem) but doesn’t have the technical skills.
I don't think the players sacked him at all this time. A few of them were pretty bad last year work rate wise, but this year, besides silly things like not stopping crosses or tracking back properly, the team were plagued by the tactics and exposed that way by the holes all over the place and the poor pressing structure from back to front. Any team would struggle with some of the tactics on show and the holes all over the place. You'd need the 11 best players in the world in every position and they would have to be 11 Wayne Rooney's as far as desire goes for a team to really be get a lot out of those tactics. The manager sacked himself multiple times and he was lucky to still have been there with the performances and form of the last season and a bit, and even some of the results in the first season when we were at our best under him.
People in the comments saying that the tactics were very similar to ETH and honestly it’s not surprising RVN probably had only one full training session to talk tactics so he kept similar principle to ETH bc u can’t teach a whole lot of different principles in one to two days also the biggest tweak RVN made to the tactic that could’ve saved ETH is keep defensive line and offensive line close to midfield to keep team shape compact and not get played through midfield to easily
@@hooksx this season we have not conceded as many as people tend to say, but we scored way less then we supposed to, while creating way more than we did last season after 10-11 prem games.
Pretty sure ETH could see the problem but the players could not keep it tight when In real match situations they were just not good enough .. they lack depth to understand what they had to do. MU players seem to only understand very simple tactics that's why the pure counter attacking tactics used by other managers worked much better..
It's the pressure, do you think the players want this ? We keep recruiting the wrong players hence this happens . Leadership comes from the players first and if the majority aren't good enough but we have expectations of them then they play below even their sub par level .
They literally played Ten Hag's football. Ruud id now the new Ole. Even on this day Garnacho was caught napping early on never tracked back to stop the full backs.
I wouldn't say that they were 'so good', but they were much better than they have been for a long time. They still had a few issues where the same old holes appeared, but much less than normal. Ruud seemed to get the basics in place better to allow his tactics to blossom at times though which was one of the biggest things I took from it. Ugarte and Casemiro were very good though. Ugarte especially I thought was outstanding. It was a very positive performance, but I think we need patience and not get too carried away. Ruud did seem to release the players and unlock their strengths very quickly though which was impressive.
thats the odd thing, we bought him as cover for the LB because he is capable of playing there, but instead eth played him at RB and put dalot at a position he's not really done well past few games on the left
The tactics is similar nothing much changed just the players did what they always do after a manager sacked. How the hell they can score from the hardest positions when they missed all those open goals in few matches before this. I wonder why??
this made no sense, problem has persisted since last season, we can say all we want but i dont think this has anything to do with players downing tools as compared to before
@@dariel299 Players being players doesn't matter old or new. I am not blaming them without proper evidence. They can perform well against City in FA cup. Then we missed so many chances for 3 straight game in EPL this season against winnable teams all with missed open chances. If ETH tactics are that bad we wouldn't have created that kind of chances or dominating yet couldn't score. Why? This problem is not since last season it is from 10 years now since SAF left, players performing after manager sacked.
call it managerial luck or man management i never saw ETH extract the best from the players this season and his dependence on non performing players cost him his job, lastnigth apart from the clinical finishing was the high press employed by the Defence and Ugarte's excellent off the ball positioning and press that created a difference from other games which led to 23 shot creation which might be the highest in a game for us this season
Get off it mate. We played the same way we did against Fulham, Brighton, Palace and West ham. Difference is the players actually found the net. No matter how much you ppl push this narrative, that is not on the manager.
@@shriduttbhatt3977 some one has to be held responsible for being 14th in the League after 9 games and scoring only 8 goals right??? our players although they are not top notch, they don't belong in the bottom
Was a bit frustrating because the level of effort was not the same. It was Leicester's B squad and they were terrible and we should have scored at least 4 more and conceded zero, but you could tell some were not giving their all before. Saw the same as I expected from Zirkzee and Bruno - we're transitioning, Bruno has the ball and immediately passes to Zirkzee and stops his forward momentum , Zirkzee has space to carry it forward between the defense with the wingers still wide, he's not that type of striker and is looking for options, nobody ahead of him, passes wide to Garnacho. Rinse and repeat that same situation. Put Harry Kane there and you're not getting a different result. Rashford was playing right side and Martinez is not the appropriate LB to overlap Garnacho so he can receive it inside. Don't play Zirkzee if there's no midfielder to run past him and nobody inverts to link up.
So you wanted United to loose right? What sort of fan are you guys are? You're all hypocrites what shows the Team United played against yesterday is their B team? Even if it's their B team do we give a shit to it.
Ofc we want the team to win but players giving more effort for Ruud than ten hag is taking the piss and it does matter if the team is shit let’s see if the do it against Chelsea
@@emmanuelntiamoah1292 I never want to lose. I think we still could have played way better than this and am disappointed the effort shown was not given consistently as any professional getting paid the crazy wages Man U pays should be doing. I don't care if you're playing for a Sunday League coach or Ancelotti. We've been here before with different squads. They try when they feel like it.
He didn't put Eriksen and Bruno with Casemiro behind them, the pressure would be too much on Casemiro. Instead he put Casemiro and Ugarte behind Bruno to protect the back four and allow Bruno to feel free and do his thing instead of worrying about what's happening behind him. Eriksen and Bruno shouldn't start together.
Wbay i am certain about is that in time, all this criticism of Ten Hag's man management will get replaced by how good he will be at coaching and disciplining another young squad in his next stint, and we'll still ve talking about the same things of either being coach with too many instructions, hard task master, Or not giving the players enough confidence in his tactics, too lenient and all that shit. INEOS has given up the opportunity to instill discipline and clear the squad in the long run for the idea of having their own appointment.
I really don't see anything different from what ten hag wanted them to do just so shameful from this players that they do it well now he's gone sorry ten hag for the ppl u Trusted failed u
That would mean the whole coaching staff failed because they are supposed to bring his tactics to live. Would also mean Rudd failed big time too because our finishing is shit.
@@69leonite wasn't jose considered one of the best communicators in world football at the time he joined united? Players loved his man management, but united player's couldn't be bothered to show up for him.
These way no different from Ten Hag tactics. Players did more simply to put blame on the fire manager. Those substitutes are feel good subs and one player who was excited to run all over the place was Casemiro.
For me ... What ETH missed that i sae in this game was very simple the players were somewhat comfortable to express themselves on the ball ... They were still crap for the most part but ill rather win 5-4 than a 0 - 0 draw. I think ETH stifled the boys of creativity, flair, and discretion on the ball. In this game they stuck to their various position kept the shape but more importantly were more expressive on the ball. ETH was a poor man manager ... The squad is shit we know but still we need a tactically 💪 ble coach who is also pragmatic results matter more than philosophy... Too bad here we go again I hop Amorim and Rudd work together 😢
@@vans9816 Wanna talk about expression mate, Ten Hag gave Bruno freedom to play risky passes and most of rhose passes, Bruno gave possession to the opponents. He granted Casemiro his wishes. Casemiro when he came back with more weight, he didn't wanna play as a DM anymore, Ten Hag transformed him into an 8 due to his passin'. He allowed Garnacho to be himself in his style, buh the boy misses so many chances.
Honestly nothing changed much, Leicester was just poor, just count how many times we recklessly lost possession in dangerous areas. If we were playing a stronger opponent we were going to be thrubbed 5 0 with that approach
This is the manager sack bounce. Simple. Nothing new. Players tried because they feel they have to show it was the manager's fault. On top of that we weren't playing Leicester's first team for the most part. You think Casemiro can do that against Chelsea or Liverpool. Never going to happen. It was the same tactics as Ten Hag. Zirkzee had a stinker. These players show up in easy games because...it is easy. I bet Luke Shaw will return soon as well.
This is a false sense of well being. If we were playing liverpool or mancity or even chelsea it would be a very different story ….. problem is we have 3 players who are getting paid 350 k per week and are just above average players (bruno, rashy and casa). Many at 200k and just about ok. We need some world class players
If anyone actually paid attention - this was EXACTLY how we played under ETH. The difference was the players actually finished their chances. Some of this idiotic fanbase thinks RVN came up with some brilliant new tactic, he did not. The players decided to show up for once.
Players couldn't score against west ham but now rashford bruno dalot linderlof sacked a nother manager its like a miracle they start playing good seen this over and over
Conveniently leaving out that garnacho was the one fluffing most the chances vs West Ham and that every player in that West Ham X11 was either signed, promoted from the academy or had their contract extended under his tenure.
@@OrangeManBaddd West Ham and CP weren't his fault the players couldn't get the ball in the net. We should've scored 3 against CP, and another 4 or 5 against WH. There's a damning stat that Rasmus has had less shots than some of our defenders. Yet, Garnacho and Bruno have had 22 shots each scoring 2 between them (before yesterday). Whose department is shooting? Ruud's. Furthermore, take Bruno and Rashford out, our attackers are quite young; Garnacho is 20, Amad is 23-ish, Zirkzee is 23/24, and Rasmus a year older than them. Antony is 24/25 as well; though the less said about him, the better. They are quite young, and clinical finishing takes years to come (Haaland is a freak in that nature).
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@@ChadYu 😂😂😂
I refuse to get carried away by this perfomance. I will only believe Manchester united has improved, If they can give this performance against the likes of Liverpool, Chelsea and Manchester city.
I agree
Agree
I think Ruud just made sure they were doing the fundamentals consistently which he did and let the quality in the team go and win the game. One thing I was super impressed with was the substitutions. They were BANG ON!
That's exactly what he did at PSV for an entire season
Looks like Erik ten hag's style of play but with the actual goals, and thinking about it bow saddens me cause I think these player's massively let ten hag down 😢
Toxic players. The same ones have stayed for way too long doing the same stuff to all previous managers. The Squad needs a big revamp
Did u see the analysis?. Not same mate. ETH more strict. RUUD more fluid. That's what RUUD said. Anyhow ETH fail to MANAGE the team. If this player problem before, THE MANAGER should solve the problem itself. THE MANAGER get his wages to solve the problem.
No, it wasn't man utd fans are allergic to Tactical understanding. Ruud used:
- A double pivot with reduced spacing in between them.
- A 4231 pressing structure where there were moments with clear triggers and blockage off passing lanes.
- Ugarte as a pure ball winner and Cas as the brains, which was a good combination. Even the play out structure had tweaks.
- Used Joshua Z for retention after that ball was won by our pivot press (usually Ugarte).
on the ball the differences where minor until he used his subs correctly and brought on amad and Mazaroui, which helped us keep the ball better after the 60th minute.
These were basic things that ETH was getting wrong.
@k.m9900 Yeah mate. I like it 👍
@@vans9816what? You do realize they played more freely because it’s against Leicester’s bench players. We played like this against Barnsley. You can’t play like this against a team like Chelsea or Tottenham because you will be destroyed
I'm going to give the credit to Casemiro. He figured out he was being man-marked and abused the instruction. No way you anticipate this opposition assignment pre-game.
He figured out his position was on the line and played to impress. Give it 3 months
@@rafael_lanaexactly. Same like sancho at Dortmund. Got there, knew he had to prove something then got comfortable. Then did the same at Chelsea. All these players don’t have the hunger anymore with the fat paychecks they’re getting
Scoring has never been our problem in cups the players turn up more often than not and theres an above average intensity from the team. Something about the do-or-die nature of it all wakes the players up. Seeing games through is where we struggle a little but we generally pull through because of our early goals.
The league is a totally different beast though, theres something "mundane" about the week in-week out games that requires discipline and commitment, leading to consistency. And honestly, a lot of these players just do not have those traits. Excited for the future but all bets are off till I see 8-10 league games with Amorim at the wheel.
It’s not about how we play in the cups it’s about how the opponents plays. In the league we’ve struggled to score because of teams dropping back and sitting in their own half meanwhile in cup games or games where the other team can’t just take a draw we have a much better chance of scoring
I didn’t see any difference between that game and what Rick did except for the fact a lot of the lucky bounces that went against Eric went for rude, and shots that we ate from 30 yards went in were normal they hit the woodwork. We just seem to get more ofthe lucky bounce but everyone’s ignoring how bad the defending was and if we were that damn good why did we concede 16 shots?😊
Yeah I think that's a fair assessment
Tactically it was largely similar to Erik (with a few little tweaks) and we certainly seemed to have more luck on our side
Defensively I believe the high press was alot better, but in settled play we still looked open...
Does it even matter when we won?? You can only win one way, and that's by scoring more goals than the opposition. Who cares if they get 2 3 4 10 goals... as long as we get at least one more than they do!
@@reepzmk7468 i think he and we all are worried about our players power. They can all sudden stop playing causing us points and maybe miss ucl, just because they want smoke their boss out. Its not first time. They sacked jose and all sudden started 7 game win streak. They sacked ole. They rebelled openly against ralf and bullied him. They tried to do same to eth, but he disciplined them.
You guys may dont see it now, but ETH era will be transformational for future even players sacked him. He showed pressing could work. He put them in better shape. He bought us good defense line and dm (and st and winger, and cm) to be used many years.
We are still little worried if this happend again and again.
Rashford will hes 8th manager in 10 years very soon.. will there be 11, 12..?
@@reepzmk7468
in a league format, you want a higher goal difference than other teams. if you end up on equal points with another team, the team with the higher goal difference is placed higher. I remember, under, I think it was OGS, we had the same number of points Leicester, but we came fourth due to a higher GD.
Obv, this is a cup game, so GD doesn't really matter, but you have to remember, Clean sheets will increase a goal keeper's morale - look at Onana this season; he's amongst the top for clean sheets.
@habiladam6363 the point I'm trying to make is that you cannot win a game on clean sheets. Goals equal points not clean sheets. You can have 38 clean sheets in the league and youd be battling relegation. Goals = points
subs were good. Played the sub goalie, brought on Hojland & , Amad. Made sure the players coming off were appreciated. Nice
Was the tactics different from eth, i think it was similar but these players were more up for it.
There were a few little tweaks, but it was largely quite similar
AJ thinks he's slick. Trynna feed us 10 minute match analysis when he knows very well that he owes us a livestream
@@mukappaomicron8110 🤣😂
@@AJAnalysis
can you do an analysis of Zirkzee in the 10 based on the West Ham and Yesterday's game?
And, Idk if you can see this, but doesn't Zirkzee remind you of another Dutchman (Wout Weghorst); lack of pace, bad conversion rate, poor use of physicality, etc...
@@habiladam6363Weghorst is completely different. Zirkzee is a technical player with skill on the ball and a good brain, Wout is a good pressing player and actually does have a good conversion rate (just not in the Prem) but doesn’t have the technical skills.
I was expecting this video eagerly but i already knew this players sacked the manager
Why?
I don't think the players sacked him at all this time. A few of them were pretty bad last year work rate wise, but this year, besides silly things like not stopping crosses or tracking back properly, the team were plagued by the tactics and exposed that way by the holes all over the place and the poor pressing structure from back to front. Any team would struggle with some of the tactics on show and the holes all over the place. You'd need the 11 best players in the world in every position and they would have to be 11 Wayne Rooney's as far as desire goes for a team to really be get a lot out of those tactics. The manager sacked himself multiple times and he was lucky to still have been there with the performances and form of the last season and a bit, and even some of the results in the first season when we were at our best under him.
really enjoy your breakdown bro, very interesting
People in the comments saying that the tactics were very similar to ETH and honestly it’s not surprising RVN probably had only one full training session to talk tactics so he kept similar principle to ETH bc u can’t teach a whole lot of different principles in one to two days also the biggest tweak RVN made to the tactic that could’ve saved ETH is keep defensive line and offensive line close to midfield to keep team shape compact and not get played through midfield to easily
No buddy. That's been solved for several months, this entire season. You're talking about a season ago's problem.
@@hooksx this season we have not conceded as many as people tend to say, but we scored way less then we supposed to, while creating way more than we did last season after 10-11 prem games.
Pretty sure ETH could see the problem but the players could not keep it tight when In real match situations they were just not good enough .. they lack depth to understand what they had to do. MU players seem to only understand very simple tactics that's why the pure counter attacking tactics used by other managers worked much better..
They finally learnt that to score you need to shoot
who remember Cardiff 1-5 Manchester United ....
Same story different times
It's the pressure, do you think the players want this ? We keep recruiting the wrong players hence this happens . Leadership comes from the players first and if the majority aren't good enough but we have expectations of them then they play below even their sub par level .
They literally played Ten Hag's football. Ruud id now the new Ole. Even on this day Garnacho was caught napping early on never tracked back to stop the full backs.
I wouldn't say that they were 'so good', but they were much better than they have been for a long time. They still had a few issues where the same old holes appeared, but much less than normal. Ruud seemed to get the basics in place better to allow his tactics to blossom at times though which was one of the biggest things I took from it. Ugarte and Casemiro were very good though. Ugarte especially I thought was outstanding. It was a very positive performance, but I think we need patience and not get too carried away. Ruud did seem to release the players and unlock their strengths very quickly though which was impressive.
Casemiro Masterclass tbh 🥂
One thing I noticed is hardly any back passing and side to side passing. It was forward playing and I loved it
Leicester played s B-team don't be carried away.
...who else noted how Mazraoui played well on the left back position?
thats the odd thing, we bought him as cover for the LB because he is capable of playing there, but instead eth played him at RB and put dalot at a position he's not really done well past few games on the left
I guess it seems like Ruud has better people skills😂😂
@@coreyboachie Vibes bruv 🤣
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The tactics is similar nothing much changed just the players did what they always do after a manager sacked. How the hell they can score from the hardest positions when they missed all those open goals in few matches before this. I wonder why??
this made no sense, problem has persisted since last season, we can say all we want but i dont think this has anything to do with players downing tools as compared to before
@@dariel299 Players being players doesn't matter old or new. I am not blaming them without proper evidence. They can perform well against City in FA cup. Then we missed so many chances for 3 straight game in EPL this season against winnable teams all with missed open chances. If ETH tactics are that bad we wouldn't have created that kind of chances or dominating yet couldn't score. Why? This problem is not since last season it is from 10 years now since SAF left, players performing after manager sacked.
call it managerial luck or man management i never saw ETH extract the best from the players this season and his dependence on non performing players cost him his job, lastnigth apart from the clinical finishing was the high press employed by the Defence and Ugarte's excellent off the ball positioning and press that created a difference from other games which led to 23 shot creation which might be the highest in a game for us this season
@@keweputsuhah6167 didn't we had more against full ham??
Get off it mate. We played the same way we did against Fulham, Brighton, Palace and West ham. Difference is the players actually found the net. No matter how much you ppl push this narrative, that is not on the manager.
@@shriduttbhatt3977 some one has to be held responsible for being 14th in the League after 9 games and scoring only 8 goals right??? our players although they are not top notch, they don't belong in the bottom
Was a bit frustrating because the level of effort was not the same. It was Leicester's B squad and they were terrible and we should have scored at least 4 more and conceded zero, but you could tell some were not giving their all before.
Saw the same as I expected from Zirkzee and Bruno - we're transitioning, Bruno has the ball and immediately passes to Zirkzee and stops his forward momentum , Zirkzee has space to carry it forward between the defense with the wingers still wide, he's not that type of striker and is looking for options, nobody ahead of him, passes wide to Garnacho. Rinse and repeat that same situation. Put Harry Kane there and you're not getting a different result.
Rashford was playing right side and Martinez is not the appropriate LB to overlap Garnacho so he can receive it inside. Don't play Zirkzee if there's no midfielder to run past him and nobody inverts to link up.
People keep saying B side, we play twenty and couldn't beat them who the hell is twenty
So you wanted United to loose right? What sort of fan are you guys are? You're all hypocrites what shows the Team United played against yesterday is their B team? Even if it's their B team do we give a shit to it.
Ofc we want the team to win but players giving more effort for Ruud than ten hag is taking the piss and it does matter if the team is shit let’s see if the do it against Chelsea
@@emmanuelntiamoah1292 I never want to lose. I think we still could have played way better than this and am disappointed the effort shown was not given consistently as any professional getting paid the crazy wages Man U pays should be doing. I don't care if you're playing for a Sunday League coach or Ancelotti. We've been here before with different squads. They try when they feel like it.
Casemiro false pivot, new term unlocked 🔓
He didn't put Eriksen and Bruno with Casemiro behind them, the pressure would be too much on Casemiro.
Instead he put Casemiro and Ugarte behind Bruno to protect the back four and allow Bruno to feel free and do his thing instead of worrying about what's happening behind him. Eriksen and Bruno shouldn't start together.
Ole ruined it for Ruud and all other caretaker managers. I'd have loved to see more from Ruud.
Wbay i am certain about is that in time, all this criticism of Ten Hag's man management will get replaced by how good he will be at coaching and disciplining another young squad in his next stint, and we'll still ve talking about the same things of either being coach with too many instructions, hard task master, Or not giving the players enough confidence in his tactics, too lenient and all that shit. INEOS has given up the opportunity to instill discipline and clear the squad in the long run for the idea of having their own appointment.
Players decided to turn up quite simple
What is the influence of ten Hag on this match? I.e. patterns of play style etc?
Hopefully I'll get to meet AJ
Rashford was on a different planet lastnight. Well he was somewhere because he certainly wasn't at the game.
I really don't see anything different from what ten hag wanted them to do just so shameful from this players that they do it well now he's gone sorry ten hag for the ppl u Trusted failed u
The very biggest change was that they got some lucky breaks and finished their chances
Maybe eth's tactics is not the problem, but his leadership & communication skill. He didn't know how to communicate what inside his head.
Exactly
That would mean the whole coaching staff failed because they are supposed to bring his tactics to live. Would also mean Rudd failed big time too because our finishing is shit.
@@69leonite wasn't jose considered one of the best communicators in world football at the time he joined united? Players loved his man management, but united player's couldn't be bothered to show up for him.
I agree with you totally, because what we saw was what Eric has been trying to do
Yes. True. ETH tactical is good. But the deliveries to players not good enough.
played the same way.. just had a better balance with the double pivot of ugarte and casemiro
Remember this was the Leicester b team. If this was a normal pl side in the league, they would of been struggling to score
Leicester must have thought they are Man City deploying their B team against us and exoecting a result, absolutely delusional
WE'RE BACK!
I still don’t like that our best finisher is being played out of position and they are trying to make him a wing back
Let me see them do it Sunday are against a better tactical tram smh 🙄
These way no different from Ten Hag tactics. Players did more simply to put blame on the fire manager. Those substitutes are feel good subs and one player who was excited to run all over the place was Casemiro.
ETH got himself sacked with this stubbornness and hard trainings
For me ... What ETH missed that i sae in this game was very simple the players were somewhat comfortable to express themselves on the ball ... They were still crap for the most part but ill rather win 5-4 than a 0 - 0 draw. I think ETH stifled the boys of creativity, flair, and discretion on the ball. In this game they stuck to their various position kept the shape but more importantly were more expressive on the ball. ETH was a poor man manager ... The squad is shit we know but still we need a tactically 💪 ble coach who is also pragmatic results matter more than philosophy... Too bad here we go again I hop Amorim and Rudd work together 😢
Yeah mate. I agree.
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Wanna talk about expression mate, Ten Hag gave Bruno freedom to play risky passes and most of rhose passes, Bruno gave possession to the opponents. He granted Casemiro his wishes. Casemiro when he came back with more weight, he didn't wanna play as a DM anymore, Ten Hag transformed him into an 8 due to his passin'. He allowed Garnacho to be himself in his style, buh the boy misses so many chances.
Where is mazauri
Relax mate. Won't get carried away. After all this was Leicesters second team. Chelsea is a different ball game.
Honestly nothing changed much, Leicester was just poor, just count how many times we recklessly lost possession in dangerous areas. If we were playing a stronger opponent we were going to be thrubbed 5 0 with that approach
Yall nuts of you think eth didn't get sacked by the players
Keep him and leave Amorim alone you bots
This is the manager sack bounce. Simple. Nothing new. Players tried because they feel they have to show it was the manager's fault. On top of that we weren't playing Leicester's first team for the most part. You think Casemiro can do that against Chelsea or Liverpool. Never going to happen. It was the same tactics as Ten Hag. Zirkzee had a stinker. These players show up in easy games because...it is easy. I bet Luke Shaw will return soon as well.
This is a false sense of well being. If we were playing liverpool or mancity or even chelsea it would be a very different story ….. problem is we have 3 players who are getting paid 350 k per week and are just above average players (bruno, rashy and casa). Many at 200k and just about ok. We need some world class players
The attacking side looks very similar to what Amorim is going to play. Anyone else see this?
Yea I see that
All of this would come crashing down this Weekend. Lol. These players need to take responsibility.
In the last day or so we can really see the divide between the United fans, and the ETH fans 😅
Good win but we won against Leicesters B-team lads.. Chelsea on Sunday, that’s gonna be, lets say, interesting! Come on you reds 💪🏻
The key was playing a shite team , who even used shite reserves.
If anyone actually paid attention - this was EXACTLY how we played under ETH. The difference was the players actually finished their chances. Some of this idiotic fanbase thinks RVN came up with some brilliant new tactic, he did not. The players decided to show up for once.
Players couldn't score against west ham but now rashford bruno dalot linderlof sacked a nother manager its like a miracle they start playing good seen this over and over
Conveniently leaving out that garnacho was the one fluffing most the chances vs West Ham and that every player in that West Ham X11 was either signed, promoted from the academy or had their contract extended under his tenure.
Dalot didn't sack OGS; he played like 10 games under OGS. ETH started playing Dalot
ETH got himself sacked with this stubbornness and hard trainings
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West Ham and CP weren't his fault the players couldn't get the ball in the net. We should've scored 3 against CP, and another 4 or 5 against WH.
There's a damning stat that Rasmus has had less shots than some of our defenders. Yet, Garnacho and Bruno have had 22 shots each scoring 2 between them (before yesterday). Whose department is shooting? Ruud's.
Furthermore, take Bruno and Rashford out, our attackers are quite young; Garnacho is 20, Amad is 23-ish, Zirkzee is 23/24, and Rasmus a year older than them. Antony is 24/25 as well; though the less said about him, the better. They are quite young, and clinical finishing takes years to come (Haaland is a freak in that nature).