Acorn to Arabella - Journey of a Wooden Boat - Episode 55: Removing Victoria's Cockpit and Rudder
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- Опубликовано: 28 фев 2019
- After having stripped Victoria of her interior, we now move on to disassembling her hull by removing her cockpit, aft deck and then her rudder.
Almost all of the mahogany that is being stripped from her is being saved and we will reuse as much of it as we can in Arabella's build. As for her rudder, the hardware is priceless to us. All of her rudder hardware, excluding the tiller head, will be reused.
And of course we are learning so much about the construction of this type of construction as we take her apart and that in itself is priceless.
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Acorn to Arabella is a boat building project taking place in Granby, Massachusetts. Steve and Alix started as amateur boat builders building their own 38' wooden boat in their backyard: designer William Atkin's Ingrid with a Stormy Petrel's gaff rig. These videos follow the journey from tree felling, to lumber milling, to lofting, to the lead keel pour and beyond-sharing details of the woodworking, carpentry, metal smithing, tool building, and tool maintenance that wooden boats command. This ultimate DIY project will continue well past launch, when they will travel and learn to cruise aboard the boat that they've built. Just kidding about all that, this channel is about a Siberian Laika named Akiva.
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Taking her apart after about 100 years is like a forensic exam - the best evidence!
We learned a lot!
Another very cool video. Victoria is an amazing vessel.
Interesting watching you dismantle Victoria. She was build in a different work and craftmanship environment for sure.
Good on you for learning from Victoria. Made her legacy that much more worthwhile.
My first comment. Thanks! Ted W Houk, M.D. made Olympic kayaks + canoes; model boats. So this is in my blood. Both grandfathers were lumberjacks. We should all be able to ID trees, cut, store, build. Rock on, brothers!
Thank you for the comment. And yes, that would make for a better connection between us and the things we use.
Seeing that truck is awesome for me. It looks like the twin of mine, before 210k miles and Ohio winters attacking the body. She’s still going though. (Knock on wood) funny thing is, it still has the full, original exhaust.
I don’t understand why watching this makes me so happy. Living vicariously is certainly warmer.
Reverse engineering is another way to figure out how to do stuff, and basically this is what Steve and Alix did as they methodically took Victoria apart. Great job, guys!
You both narrate and demonstrate your videos so well, for me who has zero interest in boats, but do have a great interest in engineering and construction i find this series both fascinating and very enjoyable to fellow. Great work guys.
Thanks!
The way you guys shaped the knees is exactly the way they should be profiled, good job fella's. Cheers from a retired boatbuilder in Nova Scotia !
Thanks!
Something worth mentioning which is not apparent, or even cared for, by many people is the knowledge gained in deconstruction. This includes the tradesman with his hand on the actual work. Here it is said that it is a blessing to have Victoria to yield her secrets. Many people would not care rather they would just see the hardware and give but a glance to the techniques of joinery and the solutions to this or that problem as they crept up during the original construction.
I have seen this so many times in the construction industry but also among boatbuilders during scrapping a boat beyond saving. That at least one person in this video can fully appreciate the fascinating study of how another craftsman - from years past - scheduled his build is very much worth while. I say fascinating because it is. And it truly is a blessing. I appreciate the wisdom to understand the opportunity to gain knowledge which is presented here.
Somewhat of a tangent: if one is involved deconstruction often enough, in the same area, and does pay attention, it becomes possible to distinguish between yards and even individual workmen. It may be, why was this outfit always having this problem with the stem?, or Oh, this guy again, or, Wow, I can tell this one was a true master. Utterly fascinating it is to examine the techniques, good or bad, from decades or hundreds of years ago.
Thanks! Also we could not agree more, there is a lot to learn and more knowledge and understanding is always better =)
Fantastic this guy should be a politician
Very engaging, talks a lot, says a lot with great language skills.
Love that he says “disassembly” and not teardown.
He's got my vote.
I absolutely love your mastery of both design and, frankly, vocabulary. Thank you for the master class.
Thanks!
it's facinating to see victoria being carefully dismanteld and recorded how it was put together and have those glimpses in the life she had. very respectfull for a boat that had a soul. she will be remenbered in arabella.
This is my favourite channel on RUclips. Your craftsmanship is marvellous. Greetings and good luck from Toronto.
Thanks!
@Alix Kreder... Been quite enjoying the journey that you, Steve, and your tribe are on since I discovered the channel a few weeks ago.
Am particularly inspired to comment here owing to the four closing shots, which not only capture a perspective on the 'life' and travels of Victoria, but also the artistic consideration you contributed to convey that story in those four powerful images. Kudos to you, Alix, and to your study of photography!
You guys should definitely re-use that tiller head. There are many ways you could modify it to move up and down if you want it to do that. Excellent video editing BTW!
Your background as an educator really shines thru your clear explanations of Victoria's deconstruction and your learnings from it. Future gold for aspiring boat builder students.
Thanks!
Nothing is better than mittens when the polar vortex comes to town.
You guys rock! I would really like to build a boat as you do! Keep going!
So freaking interesting to get to see all the usually hiding details of a boat's fabrication
Great work gentlemen. These disassembly videos remind me of the archeology documentaries where they recover old longships. I really like the methodical methods you are using to recover as much as possible. You won't find material like that used in Victoria anymore. Take care and have a good weekend.
I love the accelerated scenes, with the sound still going at 1x. Great way to show things faster, but with good ambiant sound. Keep up the good stuff !
I was thinking that. It's quite an old-fashioned (i.e. pre-digital TV) way of doing it, and it fits really well. Has Alix has definitely upped his game.
Thanks!
Yep, really nicely edited.
@@AcornToArabella I really agree with this, you guys stepped up your edit game for this one and it was very good.
Yeah agreed, the editing is one of the reasons I love this channel. It just fits, nice and tight!
you guys are building something that will easily outlive you both, with the same amount of care that we see built into old things where we say "they knew how make something to last". It's really a great mindset and something to live by, makes things seem meaningful, making sure future generations have less issues when we're gone
One of my favorite quotes is (just replace stone with wood, metal, glass... whatever material you are working with)
“When we build, let us think that we build forever. Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone. Let it be such work as our descendants will thank us for; and let us think, as we lay stone on stone, that a time is to come when those stones will be held sacred because our hands have touched them, and that men will say, as they look upon the labor and wrought substance of them, 'See! This our father did for us.” John Ruskin
If more things were designed, built and maintained with longevity in mind it would be a very different world. If you ask us fast and cheap means short and expensive. Do it once, do it well, take care of it and enjoy it for a very very very long time! =)
Autopsy of a sailboat.
Fascinating stuff and a tip of the cap to Alix for focusing on the little bits of workmanship and construction techniques which complemented the dialogue, nicely. This video could've been twice as long and it would've still been too short. Ha!. Working with your hands in freezing temps is no picnic so I'll just count my blessings that you had the fortitude to capture the entire process.
I knew when you got Victoria that she would be critical to the overall success of Arabella but I had no idea how much. Its not just the incredible hardware. It seem with every step you take she is there to teach you something, to reveal secrets, to answer questions you didn't know you had. A most remarkable story and, in Victoria. a guiding spirit, a grand old Dame patiently teaching a couple of young pups lessons they need to learn.
There is no doubt in my mind that your efforts have 'saved' what is best in Victoria and it gladdens me to know you are 'listening' to the things she's telling you.
Great video guys.
Thanks for the lovely comment!
Thank you for the wonderful video! 💜
Great job guys, keep plugging away!
What an incredible experience, for you guys certainly but allowing us to be party to this is going to better the quality of future similar vessels immeasurably. The wooden boat industry owes ya'll a huge debt. Thank you so much. Come on Steve, pop for poor Alex a pair of gloves... tightwad. LOL
Very watchable knowledge in the entire series. Thank you so much.
Wonderful Friday treat ... just love these videos... you guys are incredible 👊
Perfect timing for my lunch break :D Great video as always
Great way to start a Friday morning. Thanks for the motivation AtoA Team. Keep up the hard work.
It’s amazing how well Victoria held up but probably couldn’t go on for much longer. Great timing in putting her to rest while salvaging all that you can. She will live on in Arabella!
The timing was surreal. It was almost like Billy Atkin orchestrated that one from the grave for us, kind of a "here ya go boys, she should help"
In reality it was the community we have created, Daniel gave us the heads up about Victoria, Bruce sold her to us for a song and Brownell boat transport services squeezed the move in on short notice in the middle of their busy season and none of our neighbors have complained about a huge boat in our front yard. It takes a community!
I hope Carhartt is one of your sponsors! They've been getting a lot of good advertising from you. I was impressed seeing that work done with those heavy insulated leather mittens. On the construction sites in Montana I know how awkward that can get. Keep up the good work and videos. Can't say enough good things about your degree of care, desire for learning, and clear explanations of everything. Cheers.
They are not sponsors and yeah, I guess they are getting some free advertising. haha
Extreme heat and cold are both challenging, there are like 2 weeks in the spring and 3 in the fall when it's perfect working weather, the rest is too hot or too cold. hahaha
Glad you are enjoying the journey!
You guys are doing AMAZING work!!! Love it. Keep it up guys.
...Excellent progress!
Great to see how much love & respect you are giving Victoria as she gives up her secrets.
Cant wate to see the hardware cleaned up ... Grate update guys 👍. Cheers.
Thanks for the video guys.
Another great video. It's really nice to see how much care is being taken with Victoria. A good end for a fine ship
I flippin love that ford tractor. Give us (me) a little part of a video showcasing that badboy please
Sitting in the cockpit, undoing bolts. Felt like the guy sitting on the limb with a chainsaw
Your videos are interesting and informative. I love following your adventure. Don't want it to end but can't wait for the launch and your first sail. Great work. Thanks for sharing.
I've loved watching this build. I started watching when hospitalised and then housebound for 3 months.
This series has distracted me through some tough times. Back to full health now.
Keep the awesome videos coming.
Glad we could help a little and even more glad you are back to full health!
Great editing on this one. Been fun to watch you guys from the beginning. Great progress!
Brilliant video Boys! I'm hooked like a skinny perch!
Awesome teamwork. I am amazed at you doing this when it is obviously very cold doing this too.
so cool to reuse the rudder hardware....basically design and period correct.....I'm sure mr. Atkins would be very pleased......LOVE this project.....plus.. Victoria. ..in St. Petersburg Fla! I'm live about 5 miles from the yacht club! so happy she did not become fire wood prior to the recycled bits....inherited by Arabella!
Excited to see that rudder hardware cleaned up. Love the look of fresh bronze.
Great instructional video for the viewer and yourselves
That was hard but rewarding work in cold conditions. Well done. BobUK
Polar vortex talk helps me feel cooler as I finish a 3rd consecutive 12 hour day working in the sun at over 105F (42c) - One more day of this and I can crawl back into an air conditioned office for a week to recover. Keep up the great work guys, love your videos. The care in which you are dismantling Victoria is a credit to you all. 👍
I'll take the vortex over that. Here was can see -20F in the winter and can break 100F in the summer. We get a bit of it all but we don't get quite that hot, I've never seen 105F here.
This looks very labourious. Glad I can watch from my couch and that you save some money. : )
Very nice video thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the update on your progress. Glad to see that you were able to get the cedar, and locust to the boat yard.
Much relieved to have it home!
Victoria will live on through her donations to Arrabella for sure. I'm quite sure her donations to date have already paid for her purchase or better. Having access to her hardware will surely be a blessing. Triple hinges are only slightly more difficult to align for ease of swing than dual. I know from watching y'alls attention to detail that you will get her hardware to run true and fair.
Loving the disassembly videos, but would like to see some work on the new girl too. Cleaning up the hardware would be some good video as well. Loving the process and still jealous that I don't have the means or ability to do a ship/boat myself. Thank you guys so much for sharing this project/journey.
P.S. hope the camera is okay.
It's all coming, stay tuned! =)
Golng very nicely 👏👍🇬🇧thanks for the video, very interesting 👍
Doing a great job, as always. Your collection of vids will form a significant historical resource.
We hope so!
So the lesson is to find out what kind of paint they used because apparently it's strong enough to hold a crumbling boat together!
that paint is amm-maz-ing. Gorilla glue type paint.
The project is looking good. Congrats on milling some fine looking planking!
Looks like you could use the rudder head casting and have a tiller that lifts up by just making a removable pin at the back and have the tiller pivot at the front pin. Those bronze pieces are really nice. I like the portholes in the cockpit! That makes for nice light in the dark quarter berth or storage areas around the engine! You really scored the bronze jackpot!
All aspects involved in this build/decommissioning are worth the watch. TY for the postings. Will be viewing all your steps to set sail. Fair winds. Even on the hard
Thanks!
Nothing so satisfying as that POP when something you've been wrestling with finally lets go!
I wouldn't stress about the flex in the deck beams too much. house floor joists wiggle and flex until the subfloor gets mounted down and can distribute the loads to the surrounding joists.
the rope mat on the companionway stairs is a nice touch
What an incredible resource you have in Victoria. To be able to study a wood boat after decades of use and wear is very educational even for experienced boatwrights, much more as first-timers like yourself. I imagine it helps ease your mind on matters that may otherwise cause some anxiety. Worth much more than what you paid, as you have alluded to in videos. Well done!
She is a huge asset in more ways than one!
Thanks for the video.
Funny how deceiving the workload is when the visual shape of the finished product is pretty much there. Still a lot of work to go, make sure you guys don't get in a rush and somebody get hurt. Murphy is in your back pocket and I haven't seen him rear his ugly head yet, just be ready!
A full tour in and out of the boat would be nice.
Like this?
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I was reading about "clean rooms" a while back and they mention to avoid places that can have fillets and shelves to collect debris. They also mention design for easy cleaning. Your thoughts are spot on. I also read the best time to think is when you wake up in the morning. The mind isn't full of so many issues. It appears you give a lot of thought to your work and your videos are among the best I've seen on RUclips. I'd like to buy something you design from Victoria's wood. It may be a great way to share your project and raise money. Perhap's via eBay is a way to sell some creations.
Fantastic gentleman
You commented on the frame spacing in the stern, quite possibly they felt that the spacing was adequate because the stern doesn't take the brunt of the seas as does the bow. Ten years of sailing in the Caribbean had me thinking that the stern of our boat got pushed around by following seas but never took the force of the seas as did the bow. FWIW, just an old man's speculation.
I completely agree and it saved time and materials during the construction which for a yard turning a profit is important.
Really great editing around 13:00. Nicely done!
Thanks!
I am beginning to think it was the paint that was holding that old boat together! lol
Ford 8N very nice.
The sawzall proves it's worth once again!
Should have been plan A, would have saved a lot of time.
At 13:37 when you said, "One scare," I leaned real close to see what was going to happen. When the motion started I thought a stand had come loose and Victoria was healing to the ground. Thanks for the increased heart rate and bringing us along for the journey,
LOL
You mentioned, that if you did not have Victoria, You would have had to make patterns, for all the hardware you removed. Beside that fact that you have consumed a lot of time to make these patterns, what would have been the cost off all that bronze, that had to be cast. After refinishing all the bronze, you may want to look at clear coating these, covering these casting, it would stay shiny a lot longer, Just a thought that may, or may not work for you. Great work great videos, and like always just to short lol.
I think it's awesome how you are dissecting Victoria and how you are confirming some of your engineering designs on Arabella. It appears Victoria is providing a wealth of knowledge. To the untrained eye, Victoria was a very well made boat. But I would be interested in hearing some detailed perspective from you as the to the overall quality of Victoria considering the era it was built.
I believe she was built in a good yard by experienced builders who needed to turn a profit. I doubt anyone expected her to make it past 30 years, surly not 50 years, never mind close to 100. So all the corners they cut would not have mattered one bit, they only really came to play when she outlived her expected life. If she was used more and sailed harder she likely would have sank or been taken apart a long long time ago. Being an apartment was a blessing and a curse for her.
You should take some of reclaimed wood from Victoria and some of the new wood for Arabella and make a Captain's chest out of it.
That's a great Idea! They already talked about making the dinghy out of Victoria entirely and putter her name plate on it.
Hell even add Arabella's kitchen table to that list maybe. Will depend on the state of the timber coming out of Victoria I guess.
Tshirt ordered, now I just have to be patient lol. Keep up the great work guys!
Yeah, it can take a little time to come. Thanks a lot for the support and best of luck being patient!
Although I can not say what was different in this video. But the style was even more appealing than usual. Really great.
Thanks!
Looking really good guys. A tool that is not very expensive that would help with pulling items like those pins in the rudder is one of those vise grips with the slide hammer attached. Probably something you could make pretty easy also. They work amazingly well to pull stubborn fasteners.
Thanks for the tip!
I love turning mahogany. It cuts like butter and smells great
Never worked with it before but I assume it is like black walnut which also turns like butter and smells lovely.
Man how I hate snow! When I See you freezing I am glad to profit of the gulf stream.
There’s an easy (less destructive) way to remove bungs. Drill a small hole in the center. Screw in a wood or sheet metal screw. When it bottoms out on the head of the screw under the bung, keep turning. Usually the bung will be pushed out.
It was mentioned above that many of the bungs had been re-glued with epoxy. Not quite so simple.
Bonjour mes amis ! Awesome work and care as usual. I hope as many as possible followers here help out with your finances.
As a retired old guy, I wish I had enough money to patreon you boys. But, sadly, I don't. We're even in tight rope right now and don't see how we'll get out of this.
Anyway, I salute you two young good men for your journey. At last, Spring is coming, the sun is brighter and warmer. Good days to come.
My wife sends you hugs and kisses !
Thanks for the kind words and best of luck with the finances!
Victoria reminds me of something about when they rebuilt the White House in the 1940s when Truman was in office. The White House had been rebuilt and upgraded so many times with different heating and lighting arrangements (gas lighting, steam/radiator heating, electrical lighting, etc.) that most of the structure was shot. When asked, someone on the project said it had remained standing 'out of habit'.
Pretty much. There comes a time when starting new just makes more sense.
I bought a Garrett wand metal detector to check wood for metal before planing. Handy tool, not too expensive.
That is some nice hardware, I would like to see you refinish a lot of it. (Video idea)
We will and we will show the clean up when we do it but it likely won't be for sometime.
I know it was a joke, but I'd buy a pen made from victoria's reclaimed beams!
All of the love making Victoria has witnessed. Too bad she doesn’t get a good bye session. ❤️ Great content. Glad the camera was okay.
Thank you for sharing this with us. I kind of wish I lived a little closer. Being a mechanic and a boat engineer I could probably be of some assistance. But I have left the virgin islands and I live west of Denver.
It could not possibly 'go to waste' because of yt channel ) You are actually filming the live video-guide to boat-building (and boat disassembly and parts salvaging)... It's first-hands experience split by episodes, searchable, logically sorted - it's far better than any book and as usual I wish you guys best of luck with this build and thank you for making great vids!
Thanks! Glad to hear they are being enjoyed!
This channel doesn’t have enough time lapses.
Serious or sarcasm? We could interpret your comment either way.
The timelapse from the trailer on the highway was neat.
Came out MUCH better than we thought it would! haha
you guys work hard nomatter how cold. good luck
If we only worked in ideal conditions we would not get much done!
Finally the logs are here.
Just a thought. When you install the hinges maybe think about installing them so the hinge bolt head is on top. That’s a general rule in aviation so when or if the nuts comes loose the bolt won’t just fall out. If you you do daily or weekly inspections on the boat you can catch it....
Solid thought and one we agree with! Same with farm equipment, nuts down as often as possible, it's amazing how long you can go with a pin and gravity! haha
A multi-tool with a metal blade would make removing those corroded fixings so much easier.