How Fire-Safe Are Composite Aircraft Like The Airbus A350?

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  • Опубликовано: 29 дек 2024

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  • @BigWhoopZH
    @BigWhoopZH 11 месяцев назад +137

    It obviously did well enough. But the discipline of crew and passengers cannot be understated in this context.

    • @lizhongshen
      @lizhongshen 11 месяцев назад +2

      nah, they spent 18 minutes to get all people out, while industry standard is 90 seconds.
      every airline can evacuate entire plane in 18 minutes, it has nothing to do with so called "discipline of crew and passengers"

    • @BigWhoopZH
      @BigWhoopZH 11 месяцев назад +11

      @@lizhongshen The evacuation didn't take 18 minutes, it completed 18 minutes after landing. Also 90 seconds are standard for all exits available, but only 50% were.

    • @AZzmi_
      @AZzmi_ 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@lizhongshenbro doesn't know the actual details 🤡

    • @lizhongshen
      @lizhongshen 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@BigWhoopZH doesn't affect my conclusion: this evacuation has nothing to do with "the discipline of crew and passengers"

    • @Biggunkief
      @Biggunkief 11 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@BigWhoopZH90s applies to 50% of the exits available.

  • @USGBCLIGREENSCHOOLS
    @USGBCLIGREENSCHOOLS 11 месяцев назад +59

    Respect for the A350

  • @michaelalexander2306
    @michaelalexander2306 11 месяцев назад +98

    It should not be forgotten that in the JAL flight, it took far longer than 90 seconds to evacuate the aeroplane - around 18 minutes. The A350 fuselage held the fire at bay for at least that time with minimal smoke. Compare this with the 737 fire at Manchester many years ago.

    • @thomasnelson5010
      @thomasnelson5010 11 месяцев назад +8

      Exactly! The news keeps quoted this 90 seconds to evac while leaving out that cabin crew made them wait 18 minutes before doing so.

    • @kuebbisch
      @kuebbisch 11 месяцев назад +32

      @@thomasnelson5010 That is also wrong: The evacuation was initiated about 7 minutes after touchdown and after 18 minutes the last cabin and flight crew left the aircraft after having searched the cabin for passengers that may need help or were incapacitated by the accident and could not evacuate on their own.
      The majority of passengers left within about 2-3 minutes after the evacuation was started.

    • @theharper1
      @theharper1 11 месяцев назад +8

      @@kuebbisch thank you for providing clarification. People repeating the 18 minute figure are completely misrepresenting what happened.

    • @thomasnelson5010
      @thomasnelson5010 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@kuebbisch Thank You! Sorry about that. You are correct. Every news organization was quoting the 18 minutes. It was 18 minutes from touchdown to complete evacuation of passengers/crew.

  • @ivangeo3319
    @ivangeo3319 11 месяцев назад +10

    Finally, someone talk about composite airplane materials. Is it fire resistance better yet fire proof.

  • @wadehiggins1114
    @wadehiggins1114 11 месяцев назад +70

    If this happened with american passengers, the outcome wouldn't be the same! Most americans aren't disciplined.

    • @aletoro58
      @aletoro58 11 месяцев назад +2

      Figure if they were italians!

    • @jeffssaunders
      @jeffssaunders 11 месяцев назад

      Seriously dude....

    • @portcybertryx222
      @portcybertryx222 11 месяцев назад +1

      What? Who gave you that idea. Ever heard of the miracle on the Hudson? Don’t let your view be warped by mass media. When it comes to emergencies most people on flight by now are well versed on what to do.

  • @TC.C
    @TC.C 11 месяцев назад +1

    Nicely researched video

  • @johnsmith02
    @johnsmith02 11 месяцев назад +14

    I read somewhere that the 787 could not have held up that long because the fuselage was made of epoxy composite. Can someone please enlighten me?

    • @Greatdome99
      @Greatdome99 11 месяцев назад +6

      Graphite ribbons immersed in epoxy resin (the binder). Pretty standard stuff.

    • @thabotshabalala7114
      @thabotshabalala7114 11 месяцев назад +1

      Am not surprised..

    • @CoSmicGoesRacing
      @CoSmicGoesRacing 11 месяцев назад +5

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@Greatdome99exactly. Whether that be automobile or aircraft applications, most carbon fiber composites are made in this way.

    • @tonamg53
      @tonamg53 11 месяцев назад +2

      The 787 with batteries fire early in its career were pretty smokey… but I’m not sure whether it was just smoke from batteries or did it spread to parts of the fuselage…

  • @CP-zi3eg
    @CP-zi3eg 11 месяцев назад +3

    That still running damaged engine with passengers evacuating should be probably of more concern

    • @Tavarish21
      @Tavarish21 11 месяцев назад +5

      There’s a good chance they were not able to shut them down if certain components were damaged

    • @CP-zi3eg
      @CP-zi3eg 11 месяцев назад +1

      Agree, but it's not clear if passengers and crew members were aware of the risks they were taking moving close in front of that big "vacuum cleaner".

  • @fduran6993
    @fduran6993 11 месяцев назад +7

    I would like to know the origin of the fires inside the cabin. The firemen arrived soon so I understand that measures were taken to extinguish the initial "exterior" damages.

    • @MrCaiobrz
      @MrCaiobrz 11 месяцев назад +11

      The fuel was not only leaking, it was gushing out the fuel tanks, the fire burned for 4 hours straight, the firefighters job was just to keep the fire contained. There was no way the aircraft would resist 4h of jet fuel fire under its belly.

  • @ericjones7769
    @ericjones7769 11 месяцев назад +1

    Interesting!!!!! I love Airbus planes 💙💙💙💙

  • @SwordQuake2
    @SwordQuake2 11 месяцев назад +1

    Obviously it's perfectly safe.

  • @TheBrowncoat2112
    @TheBrowncoat2112 11 месяцев назад +3

    Why is the question being raised now with respect to the A350 when the B787 has been on the market for 15 years?

    • @DustinPearce2957
      @DustinPearce2957 3 месяца назад

      Because this is the first time the A350 had its first hull loss. The 787 has never been in any accidents before and one more thing: the scrutiny that is happening with Boeing currently.

  • @johnsinclair2231
    @johnsinclair2231 11 месяцев назад +2

    Delighted with all lives saved. But how come all the fire trucks could not put out the fire ?.

    • @redwithblackstripes
      @redwithblackstripes 10 месяцев назад +1

      Keep in mind they were two aircrafts on fire so the firefighter had to split the effort.

  • @davidl6354
    @davidl6354 11 месяцев назад +2

    What about the toxic releases of the resin

    • @Burzilman
      @Burzilman 11 месяцев назад +3

      It's still better than aluminium when it becomes fuel itself and emits toxic fumes.

    • @josh3771
      @josh3771 11 месяцев назад +3

      Don’t stand downwind of burning aircraft

  • @brianhillier7052
    @brianhillier7052 11 месяцев назад +4

    so thats all good but what happened to the plane it melted.?

  • @louielouiepks
    @louielouiepks 11 месяцев назад +1

    Not. You would have to remove the fuel before they would be somewhat fire safe. Composite material burn too, and very hot and very toxic.

  • @Elliasp-xx7mb
    @Elliasp-xx7mb 11 месяцев назад +6

    Please say again : "for todayyyyy's video", this is your trademark 🙂

  • @basukisugito3275
    @basukisugito3275 11 месяцев назад +1

    Aluminium burns very well, also colaps very fast when it heats up

  • @antonykuo3809
    @antonykuo3809 11 месяцев назад +1

    Remember to add that not having rivets gives the plane better aerodynamics and increases efficiency

  • @ljpr360
    @ljpr360 11 месяцев назад +6

    If they had decided to go Aluminum-Lithium it probably would have cost lives.

  • @nurrizadjatmiko21
    @nurrizadjatmiko21 11 месяцев назад +21

    Although all of the passengers and crew of JAL516 have survived in this runway accident, i am pretty sad that A350 has to sacrifice her life to save the passengers and crew.

    • @vipvip-tf9rw
      @vipvip-tf9rw 11 месяцев назад +2

      and you aren't sad about dash8 crew?

    • @nurrizadjatmiko21
      @nurrizadjatmiko21 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@vipvip-tf9rw only the captain has survived in the dash8

    • @pauljensen5699
      @pauljensen5699 11 месяцев назад +8

      Better the plane than the people.
      Or in other words, what it was engineered to do.

    • @manface43
      @manface43 11 месяцев назад +3

      Dash 8 died and its 5 crew too, it was smaller than the A350 so makes sense it got annihilated.

  • @Patrickair4444
    @Patrickair4444 11 месяцев назад +8

    wow a350 is safest aircraft

    • @Perich29
      @Perich29 11 месяцев назад +5

      If it's not Airbus, I ain't going.

    • @LucaPed94
      @LucaPed94 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@Perich29 wow you failed at that.... that's not how the saying goes. It's "if it's Boeing, I ain't going"... Boeing and going rhyme

    • @danharold3087
      @danharold3087 11 месяцев назад +1

      The most crucial safety element is the crew regardless of what plane you are flying.

  • @mh12-47
    @mh12-47 11 месяцев назад +5

    Pretty much the whole plane melted. There's was nothing left other than the wings!!

  • @jacobboyd7522
    @jacobboyd7522 10 месяцев назад

    Nome of that happened.

  • @johannesabreu3708
    @johannesabreu3708 11 месяцев назад

    Airbus 🇪🇺💪🏻

  • @2000AVIATION
    @2000AVIATION 11 месяцев назад +2

    1

  • @jstriggsr
    @jstriggsr 11 месяцев назад +1

    my guess is that if this was am American carrier full of American passengers... the results would not have been the same... just saying...