nah, they spent 18 minutes to get all people out, while industry standard is 90 seconds. every airline can evacuate entire plane in 18 minutes, it has nothing to do with so called "discipline of crew and passengers"
@@lizhongshen The evacuation didn't take 18 minutes, it completed 18 minutes after landing. Also 90 seconds are standard for all exits available, but only 50% were.
It should not be forgotten that in the JAL flight, it took far longer than 90 seconds to evacuate the aeroplane - around 18 minutes. The A350 fuselage held the fire at bay for at least that time with minimal smoke. Compare this with the 737 fire at Manchester many years ago.
@@thomasnelson5010 That is also wrong: The evacuation was initiated about 7 minutes after touchdown and after 18 minutes the last cabin and flight crew left the aircraft after having searched the cabin for passengers that may need help or were incapacitated by the accident and could not evacuate on their own. The majority of passengers left within about 2-3 minutes after the evacuation was started.
@@kuebbisch Thank You! Sorry about that. You are correct. Every news organization was quoting the 18 minutes. It was 18 minutes from touchdown to complete evacuation of passengers/crew.
What? Who gave you that idea. Ever heard of the miracle on the Hudson? Don’t let your view be warped by mass media. When it comes to emergencies most people on flight by now are well versed on what to do.
The 787 with batteries fire early in its career were pretty smokey… but I’m not sure whether it was just smoke from batteries or did it spread to parts of the fuselage…
I would like to know the origin of the fires inside the cabin. The firemen arrived soon so I understand that measures were taken to extinguish the initial "exterior" damages.
The fuel was not only leaking, it was gushing out the fuel tanks, the fire burned for 4 hours straight, the firefighters job was just to keep the fire contained. There was no way the aircraft would resist 4h of jet fuel fire under its belly.
Because this is the first time the A350 had its first hull loss. The 787 has never been in any accidents before and one more thing: the scrutiny that is happening with Boeing currently.
Although all of the passengers and crew of JAL516 have survived in this runway accident, i am pretty sad that A350 has to sacrifice her life to save the passengers and crew.
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It obviously did well enough. But the discipline of crew and passengers cannot be understated in this context.
nah, they spent 18 minutes to get all people out, while industry standard is 90 seconds.
every airline can evacuate entire plane in 18 minutes, it has nothing to do with so called "discipline of crew and passengers"
@@lizhongshen The evacuation didn't take 18 minutes, it completed 18 minutes after landing. Also 90 seconds are standard for all exits available, but only 50% were.
@@lizhongshenbro doesn't know the actual details 🤡
@@BigWhoopZH doesn't affect my conclusion: this evacuation has nothing to do with "the discipline of crew and passengers"
@@BigWhoopZH90s applies to 50% of the exits available.
Respect for the A350
It should not be forgotten that in the JAL flight, it took far longer than 90 seconds to evacuate the aeroplane - around 18 minutes. The A350 fuselage held the fire at bay for at least that time with minimal smoke. Compare this with the 737 fire at Manchester many years ago.
Exactly! The news keeps quoted this 90 seconds to evac while leaving out that cabin crew made them wait 18 minutes before doing so.
@@thomasnelson5010 That is also wrong: The evacuation was initiated about 7 minutes after touchdown and after 18 minutes the last cabin and flight crew left the aircraft after having searched the cabin for passengers that may need help or were incapacitated by the accident and could not evacuate on their own.
The majority of passengers left within about 2-3 minutes after the evacuation was started.
@@kuebbisch thank you for providing clarification. People repeating the 18 minute figure are completely misrepresenting what happened.
@@kuebbisch Thank You! Sorry about that. You are correct. Every news organization was quoting the 18 minutes. It was 18 minutes from touchdown to complete evacuation of passengers/crew.
Finally, someone talk about composite airplane materials. Is it fire resistance better yet fire proof.
Nicely researched video
That still running damaged engine with passengers evacuating should be probably of more concern
There’s a good chance they were not able to shut them down if certain components were damaged
Agree, but it's not clear if passengers and crew members were aware of the risks they were taking moving close in front of that big "vacuum cleaner".
If this happened with american passengers, the outcome wouldn't be the same! Most americans aren't disciplined.
Figure if they were italians!
Seriously dude....
What? Who gave you that idea. Ever heard of the miracle on the Hudson? Don’t let your view be warped by mass media. When it comes to emergencies most people on flight by now are well versed on what to do.
I read somewhere that the 787 could not have held up that long because the fuselage was made of epoxy composite. Can someone please enlighten me?
Graphite ribbons immersed in epoxy resin (the binder). Pretty standard stuff.
Am not surprised..
@@Greatdome99exactly. Whether that be automobile or aircraft applications, most carbon fiber composites are made in this way.
The 787 with batteries fire early in its career were pretty smokey… but I’m not sure whether it was just smoke from batteries or did it spread to parts of the fuselage…
Obviously it's perfectly safe.
I would like to know the origin of the fires inside the cabin. The firemen arrived soon so I understand that measures were taken to extinguish the initial "exterior" damages.
The fuel was not only leaking, it was gushing out the fuel tanks, the fire burned for 4 hours straight, the firefighters job was just to keep the fire contained. There was no way the aircraft would resist 4h of jet fuel fire under its belly.
Why is the question being raised now with respect to the A350 when the B787 has been on the market for 15 years?
Because this is the first time the A350 had its first hull loss. The 787 has never been in any accidents before and one more thing: the scrutiny that is happening with Boeing currently.
Interesting!!!!! I love Airbus planes 💙💙💙💙
Delighted with all lives saved. But how come all the fire trucks could not put out the fire ?.
Keep in mind they were two aircrafts on fire so the firefighter had to split the effort.
Please say again : "for todayyyyy's video", this is your trademark 🙂
Pretty much the whole plane melted. There's was nothing left other than the wings!!
so thats all good but what happened to the plane it melted.?
Destroyed
Write off
all planes are melting in fire, except wooden, they just burn
@@vipvip-tf9rw The magnum bits burn.
Written off and replaced by its sister
Not. You would have to remove the fuel before they would be somewhat fire safe. Composite material burn too, and very hot and very toxic.
What about the toxic releases of the resin
It's still better than aluminium when it becomes fuel itself and emits toxic fumes.
Don’t stand downwind of burning aircraft
Remember to add that not having rivets gives the plane better aerodynamics and increases efficiency
If they had decided to go Aluminum-Lithium it probably would have cost lives.
Aluminium burns very well, also colaps very fast when it heats up
wow a350 is safest aircraft
If it's not Airbus, I ain't going.
@@Perich29 wow you failed at that.... that's not how the saying goes. It's "if it's Boeing, I ain't going"... Boeing and going rhyme
The most crucial safety element is the crew regardless of what plane you are flying.
Although all of the passengers and crew of JAL516 have survived in this runway accident, i am pretty sad that A350 has to sacrifice her life to save the passengers and crew.
and you aren't sad about dash8 crew?
@@vipvip-tf9rw only the captain has survived in the dash8
Better the plane than the people.
Or in other words, what it was engineered to do.
Dash 8 died and its 5 crew too, it was smaller than the A350 so makes sense it got annihilated.
Nome of that happened.
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my guess is that if this was am American carrier full of American passengers... the results would not have been the same... just saying...