@@TotallyAmSam B is great for a character like him. Judging by a reddit tier list I just saw (user Creatful_Chaos) and my memory, I'm surprised to see Super Janemba as a C tier character, while Chiaotzu is a B and both Burter and Demon King Piccolo are A.
@@raul5081 creatful chaos is a reliable source, yeah it's interesting. I suppose you have to consider although while B-tier is certainly viable the average BT3 tier list is split up into about 7 or 8 different tiers because of the use of Z, S+, A+ etc. And with the 160 large character roster it means there are many dozens of characters considered a better more advantageous pick compared to chiaotzu. Most highly competitive matches see a relatively (in comparison to the size of the roster) small pool of characters selected, usually Z Broly, perfect cell, android 17, adult trunks, adult SSJ2 Gohan, nuova shenron or kid Buu see the most inclusion.
For anyone asking why Trunks went from SSJ into normal is because SSJ Trunks gets a full bar for an special attack, but since that SSJ Trunks is extremelly slow people prefer to just devolve him to normal Trunks who is considerably faster.
I love the Budokai Tenkaichi trilogy along with Budokai but I honestly didn't know their was such a competitive scene it nice to know that this legendary game is getting attention hopefully we get a full HD remaster complete with a Super storyline and balance mechanics and characters because anyone who picked Kid Buu when I played this game as a kid you were considered a cheater.
@@CompetitiveDigimonRumbleArena2 Holy shit that is insane it crazy how games and other things are popular outside the United States I kinda want visit one day.
There's even a competitive scene in the US. There's a discord server where people from all over can play casually or competitively online using an emulator.
@@NEINEINEINEINEINthis is what I loved about TENKAICHI, everybody had at least one trump card character that would get countered or was too op back than lol.
Chaozu is a character that I ended up liking a lot while playing him, I like his possibilities a lot, not to be underestimated even if it remains competitively fragile because of its low health
He has such a great sidestep and combos that loop so well, his overhead kicks are pretty fast, he makes everyone combo food. Also his specials come out pretty fast. but yeah, his health is definetly his weakness.
Whenever this game came out I remember fighting against a bunch of bots on the hardest game mode as: Chaotzu, Majin Vegeta, and SS2 Gohan. But I'd only use one of those 3 at a time against as many of the hardest bots I could fight. The fact is that even when I was like 14 I knew that the meta would be whoever is the fastest characters.
@@CompetitiveDigimonRumbleArena2 check out these guys: Paige Creatful chaos Grandmaster Hawk Funkaymonkay149 Just Trash And literally any south American RUclipsr you can find that plays BT3
We had a “tech club” in 7th grade, Circa 2007, and I would bring my T3 to the class. I whooped everybodies ass as Chaio, Janemba 2nd form, Tapion, Gogeta, Frieza First Form lmfao etc. epic times
Yeah, Chiaotzu be like that for some reason. There's a wicked rant below, be warned It reminds me of the one and only time I ever played a Dragon Ball game's online multiplayer, instead of couch splitscreen with friends. I tried an online match in Raging Blast 2 for the 360, which I'd had a TON of fun playing for weeks as a kid. I tried just a normal 1v1 match, using what I can only imagine was quick play. Not any kind of ranked thing. I was Majin Vegeta because he's cool. I was put up against some sweaty tryhard using Chiaotzu. And I call him that because if you do what he did in *_unranked, casual quickplay,_* you simply are such a thing. We moved at each other. He instant-teleported out of the way of my first hit. I then literally had to sit there and just kinda watch for about 2 straight minutes as he did 1-2-3-teleport, 1-2-3-teleport, rinse and repeat, and just slowly moved in a circle around me, dealing constant damage and keeping me stunlocked the entire match. In Raging Blast 2 if you pressed the block button just as an attack hit you, you were supposed to teleport out of the way; don't know about other DBZ games, but I remember it existing here. I went from trying to time it, to mashing it, back and forth throughout the match. For whatever reason, the way he was hitting me virtually removed the ability to dodge out of his combos, like he was doing some kind of perfect stun-lock cheese combo. RB2 had badass combos that the game didn't tell you existed if you powered up to max and hit a specific button to go into a strong melee mode. It removed your ability to use skills, but gave you access to a cinematic masterpiece of a melee combo that was like 12+ buttons long. There was like 7 variants of the combo, and certain characters used a different one. Characters that transformed, like Goku, used DIFFERENT variants of the combo in each transformation. I remember adoring this system and memorizing one or two of the combos for my favourite characters. But no. He just did 1-2-3-teleport for two minutes, and we didn't even move a few feet from the starting positions. Pretty sure you could put upgrades on your character in RB2, and if they were useable in online multiplayer, then he purposefully must have not used any (or even used debuffs) to weaken his melee attacks just for it to take so long. I still distinctly remember it taking AGES before the match finally ended. I don't even know how he enjoyed himself, because neither of us were really playing the game by that point. It was the least fun I have ever had fighting anyone in any game ever :)
While there are inescapable infinites in rb2 I'm pretty sure this was not one of them. it should be possible to escape this, perhaps by using that rapid ascending move, although I haven't tried it myself. You can't teleport a melee rush attack or his teleport in RB2 which is probably why you couldn't escape using the method you were using. It's still scummy that he was taking advantage of the fact you didn't know tho. In BT3 however if your opponent teleports like that you can counter teleport and land your own offense or escape.
I’m sorry to say it bro but you definitely could’ve gotten out of the combo. Yeah he cheesed you but he only did it bc you didn’t realize there were ways to escape it
Man, I adore RB2. Still my favourite DB game, but I had a friend that was just like that guy you fought against. Only used Chaozu and used that strategy, although since he always did that I could get out of it because I saw it coming.
@@Kareemisag oh Jesus it’s been ages but I’m pretty ssj2. Played him quite a bit back in the day and I distinctly remember him having insane combo routes
This is one game I would've dominated the competitive scene in if I had access to online playing back in 07. I mastered every aspect of combat and then some. I loved the roster and the combos you could pull off were pretty incredible!
Btw what you're seeing here is kind of an exploit kind of not really. In BT3 your character can only block if he is facing the opponent, you can exploit this by doing a body blow or any attack with high hit stun to fly behind your opponent and keep the combo while he basically can't fight back
@@CompetitiveDigimonRumbleArena2 i understand that it can be near impossible to do against a character like chiaotzu, because he attacks insanely fast, but i thought you had that option against any heavy attack
@@CompetitiveDigimonRumbleArena2 You have many defense tools like EBW, Z-Counters, Vanishing, and Blast-1s from the top of my head if you get hit from the back.
Wow, I played this a lot when I was 15 and now almost 29, couldn't keep playing it cause I exchanged it for the Budokai Tenkaichi 2 and my friend kept the Tenkaichi 3 cause he liked it more. I thought everyone forgot about this game since there were newer and probably better ones for PS3 or PS4... Maybe as SW Battlefront 2, nothing like the old ones, so much detail and better mechanics
When all the comments are from people who speak English and don't understand what they're saying, but you're Italian and understand perfectly. I used to play this game a lot when I was a kid, so many memories... 🥺
well tbh he's not top tier due to his low health but he is considered to be high tier, the top tiers are android 17, base trunks, broly, perfect cell, adult gohan SS2, nuova shenron, +maybe some others i'm forgetting
@@CompetitiveDigimonRumbleArena2 Does the fact he doesnt have any high priority super attacks factor into that as well? Also where does Burter place? I know he had a similarity fast combo game to Chaiotzu, but slightly more "disjointed"(at least from my casual perspective)
There's a pretty decent competitive community in Latin America and Europe. NA is just dead but I am trying to revive it along with some other good players.
Like many this is in my top 10 games of all time. I thought at this stage many had forgotten about it. Can anyone give anymore information regarding these tournaments, how to watch, how to play online vs someone else in this day and age, etc? The inner child in me is jumping
What is the advantage of starting as Super Trunks and immediately going down? Is it so he starts with 3 bars? Also, this is cool to watch but Trunks is playing extremely sub-optimally. As soon as chiaotzu gets behind you with his drill it's best to just block and double tap "fly up" to burst them away from you. Losing that bit of health to get back in a better position is infinitely better than losing all your health getting combod.
@@justsolid3201 Thanks for the explanation, dude. I still don't see why they wouldn't just pick a character that starts with more bars (or uses only 2 bars for a super)
@@jazzabighits4473 You can't disagree it's literally facts. No other character starts with three bars like him and he's got a lot of optimal tools like good rush attack, ultimate and bast attack , and also he couldn't just burst out like you said he should. You don't get to just disagree bc you don't like using the character. Facts don't care ab your opinions. But sure keep talking ab a competitive scene you know nothing about
@@jamaaldagreatest2748 i played with friend that played for years after i stopped. We got together and got the ps2 on and i went a go with bots and beat my friends ass. I remember soloing one of my other friends team with only roshi. I was a straight God at the game.
@@elitenoob1 Tale old as time in the FGC. Claims to be good because it's the "best" among his friends goes to a locals tournament and gets bodied. Competitive Scene is a completly different beast.
@@batox99 gains more ki by detransforming, and has better tools for competitive play such as an unblockable move and a explosive wave, tho i think SS hits harder
Jahred Mario is a TASer, not an actual player. the TA stands for Tool-Assisted In fact, he is getting help from the competitive community to improve his TASes
In the first combo the Trunks player blocks neutral and the Chiaotzu player uses flying kicks which is a "high" attack and bypasses Trunks' guard. Then Chiaotzu uses a full powered ki-ai cannon which the trunks player tries to block (as the move can't be vanished) and ends up getting guard crushed. From there the chiaotzu player uses another set of flying kicks to slide behind the opponent and attack their back (back attacks cannot be blocked) where he remains for most of the combo. Trunks eventually is given a break by Chiaotzu and realligns and starts to block only for Chiaotzu to use an offensive vanish and take Trunks' back once again... So I mean the Trunks player did try.
Not on your life. I aint never played bt3 but ive already platinumed sparking zero and its fucking BORING. Minute long Vanish war EVERY GODDAMN match. Its not fun.
@@CompetitiveDigimonRumbleArena2 As a T2 player, competitive BT2 isn't really a thing sadly. I have done a few netplay matches but there's not any players who want to play a competitive set.
Im so sad i dropped this game because i thought it was too unbalanced for competitive. Even worse, Chiaotzu was one of my favourites but ill be honest he's a busted, broken character, you can do infinite combos with him if you time it well. Surprised he's even allowed/viable here
True, but there are still Z counters that allow for a skilled ( or lucky ) player to interrupt a combo in the middle of it, and also works while being attack from the back. To me That's the skill that probably makes the game even more interesting.
@@cahallo5964 nah no one really has infinite combos at all. There are a couple very specific scenarios that rarely occur that can end up in an infinite combo. These mostly involve guard breaking your opponent until they must recover ki at which point (if you have a character who can absorb their ki) you can continually drain their ki and deal damage. Z Broly's Super armour also drains his ki when hit by certain attacks which can result in an infinite in very specific scenarios. Doesn't stop him from being considered a top 3 character though!
@@cahallo5964 I did, but you implied even if they're not "truly infinite" that they're some level of infinite which is not the case. The emergency blaster wave is also a universal escape option.
Budokai 3 is more competitive than Tenkaichi 3. Me and my friend will win battles one after another in BT3, but he would literally just Spam what Chioutzou is doing. The games fighting mechanic allows cheese... The only cheese that Budokai 3 has is if you let yourself get hit with dragon Rush multiple times.
You'd be surprised, Tenkaichi has a lot more depth than you would think, specifically in terms of movement tech which has been developed by the competitive community for over a decade. For example both Tenkaichi 2 and Tenkaichi 3 have essentially the equivalent of wave dashing which is a staple movement in competitive play. There are also really no cheesy strategies that work at the competitive level. Even what you saw here was not a cheesy strategy per say, the chiaotzu player was just doing a good job of mixing up his opponent which allowed him to get away with quite a few unchecked flying kicks. Realistically the trunks player had 3 defensive options for the flying kicks (Z-Counter, Emergency blaster wave and explosive wave) and even more escape options for the entire combo.
@@DBZscrub oh trust me I know, but in my opinion think I see T2 is more strategic than T3. The only Staple strategy that I think is different that 3 implemented is choosing whether or not to do a up with attack downwards attack or a forward attack after dashing in after your typical for punch combo. Tenkaichi 2 allowed you to control the direction of your blasts, the forced ability to lock on, being able to manually taunt, (big deal for me, in Tenkaichi 3 if you accidentally stand still and taunt, you're just wide open now). Tenkaichi 3 dashing is actually very different than Tenkaichi 2, if you get hit with an attack that sends you flying away and your health is still almost full, crossing circle to recover will actually make you dash towards them instead of just simply recover like Tenkaichi 2. And it leaves you open for an attack when you simply didn't want to dash. That was just a silly mechanic to me, basically tapping circle more than a few times will make you dash after recovering in T3, but seeing as you definitely need to mash circle after getting hit away, you can accidentally dash forward instead of just standing still which I don't like about T3. And in regards to the Chiaotzu to and the trunks player, the fact is budokai 3s engine will NOT allow you to repeat the same a text for a complete combo. If you start off a combo with forward k+k+k, and then stop charge and go for another forward k+k+k, your opponent will just fall.. however in the Tenkaichi series, you could get away with doing the same attack, and the only rebuttal is, well they could get out of it. To me that doesn't matter, the fact that the game allows you to do that, sucks... Budokai 3 is the best graphically, Budokai 3 for balance and my preference of gameplay, and Tenkaichi 2 is still better than 3, 3 just has challenging Ai. IMO
@@elicapri6918 there are far more differences between the two combat systems than this. I'd recommend watching Jagger1407's videos on the topic, he has 3 video that lay out pretty much every single difference between the two games. Recovering with the circle button on Tenkaichi 3 does not make you automatically dash forward. If you hold forward when recovering that will make you dash forward automatically. The combos Chiaotzu is able to do is only possible through precise delays by the player. Normally the opponent would be knocked out of the combo just like Budokai 3. As you said his opponent is even able to escape this combo if he is able to predict his opponent's next move quick enough. This is unlike certain Budokai 3 combos. Both Tenkaichi 2 and 3 have had advanced movement tech developed by the competitive community such as wave dashing, however due to certain properties in Tenkaichi 2 the available techniques and skill ceiling for movement is a little higher. Some examples exclusive to Tenkaichi 2 are ground and pound (which is considered both a good and bad thing due to the fact it can be used infinitely from the opponent's back) and free wills (generally a nice addition) among others.
Nice clip
go subscribe to paige, clip stolen from his channel ☝
The only thing I could understand in the whole video was “Chiaotzu top tier” and that’s just facts
It's italian, and they're saying stuff like "Chiaotzu is so annoying"
The funny thing is chiaotzu isn't top tier at all. Adult trunks who he's facing is considered S tier while chiaotzu is usually considered B tier
@@TotallyAmSam
B is great for a character like him. Judging by a reddit tier list I just saw (user Creatful_Chaos) and my memory, I'm surprised to see Super Janemba as a C tier character, while Chiaotzu is a B and both Burter and Demon King Piccolo are A.
@@raul5081 creatful chaos is a reliable source, yeah it's interesting. I suppose you have to consider although while B-tier is certainly viable the average BT3 tier list is split up into about 7 or 8 different tiers because of the use of Z, S+, A+ etc. And with the 160 large character roster it means there are many dozens of characters considered a better more advantageous pick compared to chiaotzu.
Most highly competitive matches see a relatively (in comparison to the size of the roster) small pool of characters selected, usually Z Broly, perfect cell, android 17, adult trunks, adult SSJ2 Gohan, nuova shenron or kid Buu see the most inclusion.
That dude sucks
For anyone asking why Trunks went from SSJ into normal is because SSJ Trunks gets a full bar for an special attack, but since that SSJ Trunks is extremelly slow people prefer to just devolve him to normal Trunks who is considerably faster.
Oh, you saw that video too
Just like in the anime lol.
Not SSJ Trunks, Super Trunks. SSJ Trunks is actually better than base trunks, Super Trunks has more damage and energy but is very slow.
you mean super trunks
Y'know the game is good when it's faithful to the OG anime
Would be cool if we could have a normal ssj trunks who doesn't overclock his muscles
Trunks was like "fuck this I'm out"
i thought the same lol
Bro ran back to the future
Oh you thought Trunks was swapping out at the end? Nah he was just leaving.
I love the Budokai Tenkaichi trilogy along with Budokai but I honestly didn't know their was such a competitive scene it nice to know that this legendary game is getting attention hopefully we get a full HD remaster complete with a Super storyline and balance mechanics and characters because anyone who picked Kid Buu when I played this game as a kid you were considered a cheater.
it's huge in latin america and europe, argentina has 200 man tournaments
@@CompetitiveDigimonRumbleArena2 Holy shit that is insane it crazy how games and other things are popular outside the United States I kinda want visit one day.
There's even a competitive scene in the US. There's a discord server where people from all over can play casually or competitively online using an emulator.
@@TotallyAmSam That is crazy how much love this game is getting I mean really.
Search up dragon ball z budokai tenkaichi 4
I saw a friendship end because someone got bodied as Broly by Chaotzu ...
reminds me of how I ALMOST bodied Broly as Chiaotzu in the main Tenkaichi 2 Storymode playing through the Legendary Super Saiyan chapter
Boy do I have news for you.
I always knew cell second form was going to be used in the competitive scene
Lol I remember him being my trump card back in the day. That life absorb was so cheesy
Me who used to play pretty much only using the special attacks, still knowing he’s good
@@NEINEINEINEINEINthis is what I loved about TENKAICHI, everybody had at least one trump card character that would get countered or was too op back than lol.
Chaozu is a character that I ended up liking a lot while playing him, I like his possibilities a lot, not to be underestimated even if it remains competitively fragile because of its low health
How I felt about master roshi
He has such a great sidestep and combos that loop so well, his overhead kicks are pretty fast, he makes everyone combo food. Also his specials come out pretty fast. but yeah, his health is definetly his weakness.
That reminded me when a friend the first time he played with me i literally didn't let his gogeta ssj4 breathe with kid buu
W
Kid buu was my go to character in those tournaments. He got no chill slap u all tf up xD
Jugadores de Tenkaichi 🤝 Jugadores de FigtherZ
Que les encadenen un combo infinito sin poder hacer nada
Podia apretar el L1 o atacar ejor cuando podia pero la cago
Whenever this game came out I remember fighting against a bunch of bots on the hardest game mode as:
Chaotzu, Majin Vegeta, and SS2 Gohan. But I'd only use one of those 3 at a time against as many of the hardest bots I could fight. The fact is that even when I was like 14 I knew that the meta would be whoever is the fastest characters.
No shit sherlock
If you want to see other top tier players go visit bt4 competitive channel. They are veeeery good
Sure thing bro i'll look that up
@@CompetitiveDigimonRumbleArena2 check out these guys:
Paige
Creatful chaos
Grandmaster Hawk
Funkaymonkay149
Just Trash
And literally any south American RUclipsr you can find that plays BT3
The real OG‘s know kid boo from raging blast 2…
Ive always wondered if this game had this kind of audience and player base
Bruh it gotta whole discord with tourneys. I've played in 2 got bodied.
It does! :)
There’s a competitive scene for Tenkaichi 3? Well, I’ve been lied to.
Indeed there is a scene but it is pretty small. We have a discord for it if you're interested
@@justsolid3201 Awesome!
@@justsolid3201 pls give the discord. My friend and me are willing to land desolation
Getting owned by Chiaotsu is one experience I would hate to go through
We had a “tech club” in 7th grade, Circa 2007, and I would bring my T3 to the class. I whooped everybodies ass as Chaio, Janemba 2nd form, Tapion, Gogeta, Frieza First Form lmfao etc. epic times
@@TipppedScales1015 probably were hated by everyone lmao...nobody wants to be humiliated by the crap characters
Of course they're playing as the little suicide doll
Trunks left like he was about to go back in the past and ask goku for help
Yeah, Chiaotzu be like that for some reason.
There's a wicked rant below, be warned
It reminds me of the one and only time I ever played a Dragon Ball game's online multiplayer, instead of couch splitscreen with friends. I tried an online match in Raging Blast 2 for the 360, which I'd had a TON of fun playing for weeks as a kid. I tried just a normal 1v1 match, using what I can only imagine was quick play. Not any kind of ranked thing. I was Majin Vegeta because he's cool. I was put up against some sweaty tryhard using Chiaotzu.
And I call him that because if you do what he did in *_unranked, casual quickplay,_* you simply are such a thing.
We moved at each other. He instant-teleported out of the way of my first hit. I then literally had to sit there and just kinda watch for about 2 straight minutes as he did 1-2-3-teleport, 1-2-3-teleport, rinse and repeat, and just slowly moved in a circle around me, dealing constant damage and keeping me stunlocked the entire match. In Raging Blast 2 if you pressed the block button just as an attack hit you, you were supposed to teleport out of the way; don't know about other DBZ games, but I remember it existing here. I went from trying to time it, to mashing it, back and forth throughout the match. For whatever reason, the way he was hitting me virtually removed the ability to dodge out of his combos, like he was doing some kind of perfect stun-lock cheese combo.
RB2 had badass combos that the game didn't tell you existed if you powered up to max and hit a specific button to go into a strong melee mode. It removed your ability to use skills, but gave you access to a cinematic masterpiece of a melee combo that was like 12+ buttons long. There was like 7 variants of the combo, and certain characters used a different one. Characters that transformed, like Goku, used DIFFERENT variants of the combo in each transformation. I remember adoring this system and memorizing one or two of the combos for my favourite characters.
But no. He just did 1-2-3-teleport for two minutes, and we didn't even move a few feet from the starting positions. Pretty sure you could put upgrades on your character in RB2, and if they were useable in online multiplayer, then he purposefully must have not used any (or even used debuffs) to weaken his melee attacks just for it to take so long. I still distinctly remember it taking AGES before the match finally ended. I don't even know how he enjoyed himself, because neither of us were really playing the game by that point.
It was the least fun I have ever had fighting anyone in any game ever :)
bro i feel u that game took forever to complete the storymode 100%
While there are inescapable infinites in rb2 I'm pretty sure this was not one of them. it should be possible to escape this, perhaps by using that rapid ascending move, although I haven't tried it myself.
You can't teleport a melee rush attack or his teleport in RB2 which is probably why you couldn't escape using the method you were using. It's still scummy that he was taking advantage of the fact you didn't know tho. In BT3 however if your opponent teleports like that you can counter teleport and land your own offense or escape.
I’m sorry to say it bro but you definitely could’ve gotten out of the combo. Yeah he cheesed you but he only did it bc you didn’t realize there were ways to escape it
Man, I adore RB2. Still my favourite DB game, but I had a friend that was just like that guy you fought against. Only used Chaozu and used that strategy, although since he always did that I could get out of it because I saw it coming.
I’d imagine Teen Gohan would perform well in competitive play as well. He’s got a fast multi hitting combo similar to Chiaotzus
Base or ssj2?
@@Kareemisag oh Jesus it’s been ages but I’m pretty ssj2. Played him quite a bit back in the day and I distinctly remember him having insane combo routes
I actually love playing Chaizou. He is nearly unhittable from kiblasts and he is so creepy. I always fake out my friends playing as him.
Man chiaotzu was just kicking trunks ass. Didn't even self destruct
This is one game I would've dominated the competitive scene in if I had access to online playing back in 07. I mastered every aspect of combat and then some. I loved the roster and the combos you could pull off were pretty incredible!
I mean the online scene is alive and kicking now so it's not too late.
It's free to play on the dolphin emulator.
My secret character. Bulter I think his his name. His speed is insane
Btw what you're seeing here is kind of an exploit kind of not really.
In BT3 your character can only block if he is facing the opponent, you can exploit this by doing a body blow or any attack with high hit stun to fly behind your opponent and keep the combo while he basically can't fight back
but, cant you just hit circle/B to just vanish right before you're about to get hit? i thought that was a universal answer to literally anything
@@jerq887 as far as i know if you're getting hit from behind you just had to take it, i don't play bt3 nowhere near this lvl tho
@@CompetitiveDigimonRumbleArena2 i understand that it can be near impossible to do against a character like chiaotzu, because he attacks insanely fast, but i thought you had that option against any heavy attack
@@CompetitiveDigimonRumbleArena2 You have many defense tools like EBW, Z-Counters, Vanishing, and Blast-1s from the top of my head if you get hit from the back.
you can use up + square (on ps2) to counter basically any hit from any direction even while youre stunned, but the timing is like 1 frame
As we go near to Sparking Zero's awaited release, this popped up on my suggestions
South amwrica got a huge and extrem hardcore dragonball fanbase we dont know about
dbz is our religion
Wow, I played this a lot when I was 15 and now almost 29, couldn't keep playing it cause I exchanged it for the Budokai Tenkaichi 2 and my friend kept the Tenkaichi 3 cause he liked it more. I thought everyone forgot about this game since there were newer and probably better ones for PS3 or PS4... Maybe as SW Battlefront 2, nothing like the old ones, so much detail and better mechanics
this is the best db game ever made
@SuicidalThoughts Honestly I prefer Tenkaichi 2. Less characters but the story mode and the soundtrack is godly.
@The Besto Dude Tenkaichi 2 soundtrack is something special. Idk what it was but they were all memorable
@@dread1262 Every song felt unique, that's why. It's a wonderful soundtrack.
It's time for one last dance. (Hope they don't screw it up)
I LITERALLY play like this with someone. It's why I always say tenkaichi 3 was the best.
Bruh I’m sorry Chiaotzu looks so fucking funny his animations got me crying 😂
I've been screaming this for 10 years.. chiaotzu is in deed top tier
He's often considered upper mid tier by the competitive community. He is quite stylish though.
When all the comments are from people who speak English and don't understand what they're saying, but you're Italian and understand perfectly.
I used to play this game a lot when I was a kid, so many memories... 🥺
Basato
Bello vedere ancora wualcuno giocare sto gioco
I always played Chiaotzu because he was my favorite character, his attacks are so fast it doesnt suprise me that he's top tier lol
well tbh he's not top tier due to his low health but he is considered to be high tier, the top tiers are android 17, base trunks, broly, perfect cell, adult gohan SS2, nuova shenron, +maybe some others i'm forgetting
@@CompetitiveDigimonRumbleArena2 Does the fact he doesnt have any high priority super attacks factor into that as well? Also where does Burter place? I know he had a similarity fast combo game to Chaiotzu, but slightly more "disjointed"(at least from my casual perspective)
@@Stickmanlolz i think burter might be hight tier aswell but i have no idea, dude was fast af, oh and kid buu is also a top tier too
@@CompetitiveDigimonRumbleArena2 Kid Buu is top tier in so many games
@@Stickmanlolz lol true
Never knew there was a competitive in this game xd even tho I played it for a long time
huge in latin america, in argentina they make 200 people tourneys
There's a pretty decent competitive community in Latin America and Europe. NA is just dead but I am trying to revive it along with some other good players.
This is why I love this game.
Weirdo
I love this game to death ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Like many this is in my top 10 games of all time. I thought at this stage many had forgotten about it. Can anyone give anymore information regarding these tournaments, how to watch, how to play online vs someone else in this day and age, etc? The inner child in me is jumping
look up dbzbt3 paige's channel
What is the advantage of starting as Super Trunks and immediately going down? Is it so he starts with 3 bars?
Also, this is cool to watch but Trunks is playing extremely sub-optimally. As soon as chiaotzu gets behind you with his drill it's best to just block and double tap "fly up" to burst them away from you. Losing that bit of health to get back in a better position is infinitely better than losing all your health getting combod.
Indeed Super Trunks at the start is to get that 3 bars instead of 2 when choosing regular form.
@@justsolid3201 Thanks for the explanation, dude. I still don't see why they wouldn't just pick a character that starts with more bars (or uses only 2 bars for a super)
@@jazzabighits4473 Adult Base Trunks is one of the best characters in the game. That's why they chose him.
@@justsolid3201 I disagree, but thank you for explaining this to me :)
@@jazzabighits4473 You can't disagree it's literally facts. No other character starts with three bars like him and he's got a lot of optimal tools like good rush attack, ultimate and bast attack , and also he couldn't just burst out like you said he should. You don't get to just disagree bc you don't like using the character. Facts don't care ab your opinions. But sure keep talking ab a competitive scene you know nothing about
I always thought that Chaoz had great combos but this broke my two rules when i played with friends that were no switchs and no throws + power
Lol
When are we getting a newer version of this game … Ive been waiting yo…
I'm very good in this game. I play this game for years in the past. One of the most powerful character is Burter
"Cell is angry"
Kusoge moment?
sparking zero needs learn something about this the competitive now feels stupid with all parrys stuff
LET'S GOOOOO
Burter, Ss2 teen Gohan, Chiaotzu and kid buu are the speed team. If I play again I'm dominating with these guys. But who's the 5th speedster?
DBTk3 è il miglior gioco di dragon ball mai creato ^_^
BRO i used to be straight cracked at tenkaichi 3, i wonder if i still am after all these years
It’s really easy to feel cracked. Every kid felt that way. Competitive is a lot different
@@jamaaldagreatest2748 i played with friend that played for years after i stopped. We got together and got the ps2 on and i went a go with bots and beat my friends ass. I remember soloing one of my other friends team with only roshi. I was a straight God at the game.
@@elitenoob1 Tale old as time in the FGC. Claims to be good because it's the "best" among his friends goes to a locals tournament and gets bodied. Competitive Scene is a completly different beast.
can someone explain why the dude choosed Super Trunks just to go Base form at the beginning...?
You start with more ki if you do that and have stronger tools for competitive, tho SS does more damage
chaotzu is mad fun
Cell Succhia Energia
Why end the vid so soon
explain me why did Trunks go from USSJ to Normal? Game Mechanic or what?
If I had to take a random guess, maybe USSJ starts with more Ki than Base Trunks?
@@niyebe6406 fine :)
@@niyebe6406 yup that too
@@batox99 gains more ki by detransforming, and has better tools for competitive play such as an unblockable move and a explosive wave, tho i think SS hits harder
@@CompetitiveDigimonRumbleArena2 SSJ does more melee dmg but Base has a better toolkit
if they improve the deffensive skills, DBZBT4 will be GOTY
Looks about right 😎
Chiotzu be all over the place
Damn who was playing Chiaotzu?
Argentina budokai standart
Facts
Chaos es muy buen personaje,tiene cosas que otros no ,lo que lo jode es que solo tiene 2 barritas solo👀
Wait, chaozu (and by extension chaozu type) can teleport 2 times with circle during a combo ?
Jesus that was basically one big combo.
I think the game might be broken.
it actually wasn't, dude got mixed/read several times, there was counterplay at various points, chiaotzu player just chose correctly
@@CompetitiveDigimonRumbleArena2 well there you go
I’d love to do this 🔥🔥🔥
Dude all powered down at da start n shit 😂
"Chaozu top tier"
Wish he was top tier lol
Nah bro used Chiaotzu like a boss!
Where do people play this on competitive mode? There's no internet on PS2 T_T
Chiaotzu is cracked
Kinda bad the Arson guy if after all of those hits he couldn't do a teleport
grosssso Chaoz, mis vibes italianas argentas entendieron eso jaja.
Competitive?!
Did you see Jahred Mario (Channel) Competitive Level?
Jahred Mario is a TASer, not an actual player. the TA stands for Tool-Assisted
In fact, he is getting help from the competitive community to improve his TASes
Mi piacerebbe molto potermi misurare contro di voi
Chaos tocou o terror
Ragazzi di dove siete? 😍😍😍Vorrei fare io un bel torneo
Io quando giocavo con mio fratello più grande
the game has tech
tons
I don't know, i play like that always against hard bots, but i think that's not funny
Dude selects ASSJ Trunks just to turn him back to his base form instead of just selecting normal Trunks, so stupid, lol
the reason is that you start with more ki with base trunks if you do that
wow. how you just gonna let chiaotzu beat you up like that? JUST BLOCK
In the first combo the Trunks player blocks neutral and the Chiaotzu player uses flying kicks which is a "high" attack and bypasses Trunks' guard.
Then Chiaotzu uses a full powered ki-ai cannon which the trunks player tries to block (as the move can't be vanished) and ends up getting guard crushed.
From there the chiaotzu player uses another set of flying kicks to slide behind the opponent and attack their back (back attacks cannot be blocked) where he remains for most of the combo.
Trunks eventually is given a break by Chiaotzu and realligns and starts to block only for Chiaotzu to use an offensive vanish and take Trunks' back once again...
So I mean the Trunks player did try.
As good as this looks sparking zero takes this to a whole new level
Not on your life. I aint never played bt3 but ive already platinumed sparking zero and its fucking BORING. Minute long Vanish war EVERY GODDAMN match. Its not fun.
Cool
Jamm bell
Come si gioca online
Competitive bt2 is more insane
really? gotta look more into bt2
@@CompetitiveDigimonRumbleArena2 As a T2 player, competitive BT2 isn't really a thing sadly. I have done a few netplay matches but there's not any players who want to play a competitive set.
Ehi ragazzi ma siete italiani🤣🤣
Damn
Im so sad i dropped this game because i thought it was too unbalanced for competitive. Even worse, Chiaotzu was one of my favourites but ill be honest he's a busted, broken character, you can do infinite combos with him if you time it well. Surprised he's even allowed/viable here
True, but there are still Z counters that allow for a skilled ( or lucky ) player to interrupt a combo in the middle of it, and also works while being attack from the back. To me That's the skill that probably makes the game even more interesting.
about 90% of the roster has infinite combos but they aren't truly infinite because z counters so it doesn't matter
@@cahallo5964 nah no one really has infinite combos at all. There are a couple very specific scenarios that rarely occur that can end up in an infinite combo.
These mostly involve guard breaking your opponent until they must recover ki at which point (if you have a character who can absorb their ki) you can continually drain their ki and deal damage.
Z Broly's Super armour also drains his ki when hit by certain attacks which can result in an infinite in very specific scenarios.
Doesn't stop him from being considered a top 3 character though!
@@DBZscrubdid you read my comment
@@cahallo5964 I did, but you implied even if they're not "truly infinite" that they're some level of infinite which is not the case.
The emergency blaster wave is also a universal escape option.
Okay but is it always in Spanish?
the clip is in italian buddy
Eu achava que era bom até ver esse caras
Se der combo desse jeito em mim vai tomar um counter z facil.
stil the best dragonball game
mamma mia chaotzu
To everyone who doesnt know plz learn the secert counter tech and z counter
Budokai 3 is more competitive than Tenkaichi 3. Me and my friend will win battles one after another in BT3, but he would literally just Spam what Chioutzou is doing. The games fighting mechanic allows cheese... The only cheese that Budokai 3 has is if you let yourself get hit with dragon Rush multiple times.
You'd be surprised, Tenkaichi has a lot more depth than you would think, specifically in terms of movement tech which has been developed by the competitive community for over a decade.
For example both Tenkaichi 2 and Tenkaichi 3 have essentially the equivalent of wave dashing which is a staple movement in competitive play.
There are also really no cheesy strategies that work at the competitive level. Even what you saw here was not a cheesy strategy per say, the chiaotzu player was just doing a good job of mixing up his opponent which allowed him to get away with quite a few unchecked flying kicks.
Realistically the trunks player had 3 defensive options for the flying kicks (Z-Counter, Emergency blaster wave and explosive wave) and even more escape options for the entire combo.
@@DBZscrub oh trust me I know, but in my opinion think I see T2 is more strategic than T3. The only Staple strategy that I think is different that 3 implemented is choosing whether or not to do a up with attack downwards attack or a forward attack after dashing in after your typical for punch combo. Tenkaichi 2 allowed you to control the direction of your blasts, the forced ability to lock on, being able to manually taunt, (big deal for me, in Tenkaichi 3 if you accidentally stand still and taunt, you're just wide open now). Tenkaichi 3 dashing is actually very different than Tenkaichi 2, if you get hit with an attack that sends you flying away and your health is still almost full, crossing circle to recover will actually make you dash towards them instead of just simply recover like Tenkaichi 2. And it leaves you open for an attack when you simply didn't want to dash. That was just a silly mechanic to me, basically tapping circle more than a few times will make you dash after recovering in T3, but seeing as you definitely need to mash circle after getting hit away, you can accidentally dash forward instead of just standing still which I don't like about T3. And in regards to the Chiaotzu to and the trunks player, the fact is budokai 3s engine will NOT allow you to repeat the same a text for a complete combo. If you start off a combo with forward k+k+k, and then stop charge and go for another forward k+k+k, your opponent will just fall.. however in the Tenkaichi series, you could get away with doing the same attack, and the only rebuttal is, well they could get out of it. To me that doesn't matter, the fact that the game allows you to do that, sucks... Budokai 3 is the best graphically, Budokai 3 for balance and my preference of gameplay, and Tenkaichi 2 is still better than 3, 3 just has challenging Ai. IMO
@@elicapri6918 there are far more differences between the two combat systems than this. I'd recommend watching Jagger1407's videos on the topic, he has 3 video that lay out pretty much every single difference between the two games.
Recovering with the circle button on Tenkaichi 3 does not make you automatically dash forward. If you hold forward when recovering that will make you dash forward automatically.
The combos Chiaotzu is able to do is only possible through precise delays by the player. Normally the opponent would be knocked out of the combo just like Budokai 3. As you said his opponent is even able to escape this combo if he is able to predict his opponent's next move quick enough. This is unlike certain Budokai 3 combos.
Both Tenkaichi 2 and 3 have had advanced movement tech developed by the competitive community such as wave dashing, however due to certain properties in Tenkaichi 2 the available techniques and skill ceiling for movement is a little higher. Some examples exclusive to Tenkaichi 2 are ground and pound (which is considered both a good and bad thing due to the fact it can be used infinitely from the opponent's back) and free wills (generally a nice addition) among others.
I’m nice in dbz let’s play
i'm terrible hahaha but the players of this game are so good
If you'd like to play online there's a whole community with both casual and competitive players.
Oh yh, Italian's love Dragon Ball Z. I would know...Cuz I am one lol.
That trunks is soo bad.. omg
That shit they doin is cute we need some more shi like this tho
I thought we germans are loving dbz
are there any german Tenkaichi players? I'd love to know since I'm german and want a low-ping match for a change