He Was Supposed To Be The Warriors' Missing Piece... What Happened To James Wiseman?

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  • Опубликовано: 10 окт 2024
  • In this video we discuss how James Wiseman went from being a surefire NBA superstar to being a complete afterthought just five years later...
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  • @Paulie_Geelie
    @Paulie_Geelie 2 дня назад +11

    I don't get all the negative comments I'm seeing lately, I always tune in because your videos are chill, and your takes are generally reasonable, even if they aren't always accurate, which most basketball takes end up being.

    • @Thomas-j3e
      @Thomas-j3e 2 дня назад +7

      He just made a negative video about wiseman last week. He needs to realize wiseman is just a kid. He is still working hard to make it in the NBA. Instead of profiting off his negativity.

    • @mistermann3225
      @mistermann3225 2 дня назад

      ​@@Thomas-j3eHe's a millionaire NBA player that doesn't give a f*** about you. Relax, this guy's just making content he's interested in and thinks will get views.

    • @J.Ragland-hz1er
      @J.Ragland-hz1er День назад

      @@Thomas-j3e Familiarity breeds contempt. If someone said a guy got into the NBA as a financial hardship case, earned $39.6 MIL, and got an NBA Ring by age 21, would he be called a failure?

    • @stephend.4097
      @stephend.4097 День назад

      @@Thomas-j3elook at how much you’re commenting on this vid 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 cringe af 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @jboogie8819
    @jboogie8819 2 дня назад +2

    Great video! It would be cool if you did a series about prospects who didn't pan out and why.

  • @itay6262
    @itay6262 2 дня назад +2

    After 5 minutes I thought "why is he talking about him so much and not move to the next guy on the list?" lol

  • @Tm_Martishius
    @Tm_Martishius 2 дня назад +23

    I advise puting your notes behind the camera or trying to memorise them, because you not making eye contact during the whole is intro is hella awkward

    • @chris7one
      @chris7one 2 дня назад +4

      It don't matter don't be picky

    • @babymallo6947
      @babymallo6947 2 дня назад +8

      @@chris7oneHe’s just giving good criticism

    • @kyomoto2084
      @kyomoto2084 2 дня назад +2

      ​@@chris7oneyou soft

    • @Cassopa
      @Cassopa 2 дня назад +7

      Better than half of the NBA channels in youtube. I purely despise the AI voices.

    • @kyomoto2084
      @kyomoto2084 2 дня назад

      @@Cassopa "2.1m subscribers - 1 video" bruh u got AI generated channel hahah

  • @terrancedavis4851
    @terrancedavis4851 2 дня назад +5

    Damn wiseman is in indiana, would love my raps to take a chance on him if it dont work there

  • @EustassGambit
    @EustassGambit 2 дня назад +2

    Big ups my guy!!!

  • @cnote729
    @cnote729 2 дня назад +2

    I'm still trying to get use to see ol boy....lol....but love the show..keep it up bruh

  • @BallinVlogs
    @BallinVlogs 2 дня назад +5

    James Wiseman Got So Much Potential

  • @RoldanRR00
    @RoldanRR00 2 дня назад +2

    If all he focused on was rebounding and blocks, he could stay in the NBA for double digit seasons. There's only one ball and not enough shots to go around, especially for rookies.

  • @IceManLikeGervin
    @IceManLikeGervin 2 дня назад +6

    Wiseman is going to thrive in Indiana. Just wait and see...

  • @BryantThompson-w1j
    @BryantThompson-w1j 2 дня назад +3

    Bigs are always hit or miss for some reason but I really feel for Wiseman he just got injured in his rookie year and it went down hill after that.

    • @J.Ragland-hz1er
      @J.Ragland-hz1er 2 дня назад +2

      @@BryantThompson-w1j Downhill? Receiving a Championship Ring and tens of millions of dollars since then is going "downhill"? Absurd.

    • @BryantThompson-w1j
      @BryantThompson-w1j 2 дня назад +1

      @@J.Ragland-hz1er but he didn't contribute anything to that team so get your facts straight.

    • @J.Ragland-hz1er
      @J.Ragland-hz1er День назад

      @@BryantThompson-w1j Which fact did I get wrong?

  • @滋榎本
    @滋榎本 2 дня назад +5

    The second pick in the NBA draft is a highly coveted draft slot.
    Yet, when you look at the recent history of second overall picks, it is a very uninspiring bunch of players.
    Looking specifically over the past twenty years, even the better players to have been selected have not been that great.
    Players that have not lived up to the hype from this decade include Evan Turner (2010), Derrick Williams (2011), Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (2012), Jabari Parker (2014), and Marvin Bagley (2018), James Wiseman (2020)。

    • @lordmegatron4789
      @lordmegatron4789 2 дня назад +5

      Jabari was good just got hurt

    • @monkeyd6716
      @monkeyd6716 2 дня назад +5

      I feel like jabari was actually good and would have been great if not for getting injured.

    • @mr.twertletv5612
      @mr.twertletv5612 2 дня назад +2

      @@lordmegatron4789bari was a monster

    • @mistermann3225
      @mistermann3225 2 дня назад +2

      Jabari Parker would have lived up to the he hype had he not injured his knees.He was basically Carmelo 2.0...

    • @J.Ragland-hz1er
      @J.Ragland-hz1er 2 дня назад

      @@滋榎本 Why should those who play have to live up to the Clickbait hype of Social Media types (like the creator of this video) that just "Wanna be starting something." so they can eat off of folks like Wiseman?

  • @linsithebe7080
    @linsithebe7080 2 дня назад +1

    Ca't believe a United fan has been giving me basketball info this whole time 0_o

  • @reeseszn4513
    @reeseszn4513 День назад

    He's in a better situation right now, look at what happened to Jalen Smith when they picked him up last 3 years. And now he's having a contract from the Bulls. I would not be surprise if Wiseman can make a significant strides here in Indy.

  • @axelcastillo6369
    @axelcastillo6369 2 дня назад +11

    As a warriors fan this sucks for him. Because Steve Kerr a person I hate since 2023 never played the young guys and after they don’t play well they trade them because they were not that good even though you played them 12 minutes per game.

    • @Thomas-j3e
      @Thomas-j3e 2 дня назад +4

      He got traded to the pistons. Couldn’t get any worse. Then they traded pool to the wizards. They don’t care much about young players.

    • @axelcastillo6369
      @axelcastillo6369 2 дня назад +3

      @@Thomas-j3e that why I hate stake Kerr

    • @koiiev9413
      @koiiev9413 2 дня назад +3

      Yep, he played Ty Jerome and Anthony Lamb more instead of Kuminga and Moody

    • @axelcastillo6369
      @axelcastillo6369 2 дня назад

      @@koiiev9413 so stupid.

    • @BryantThompson-w1j
      @BryantThompson-w1j 2 дня назад +1

      Let's not forget kerr never played Jason Tatum in the Olympics this past summer.

  • @cdeleon3494
    @cdeleon3494 2 дня назад +2

    Comparing Whiteside's blocking prowess compared to Wiseman's is ridiculous. Hassan really made his living off blocks. Wiseman can't even play good D.

  • @J.Ragland-hz1er
    @J.Ragland-hz1er 2 дня назад +3

    This video's title promotes such a poor take.
    The GSW were already considered a DYNASTY by many before Wiseman arrived.
    Many would question if there actually was a "missing piece".
    However, seeing as the Warriors were NBA Champs in Wiseman's rookie year, AND Wiseman received a ring, one could say he filled in as a ""missing piece" well enough to earn a ring.

    • @HoopsReference
      @HoopsReference  2 дня назад +7

      Warriors were actually champions in 2022 which was Wiseman’s second season and the year Wiseman was injured and out for the year so you’re the one who is loud and wrong here 👍🏼

    • @J.Ragland-hz1er
      @J.Ragland-hz1er 2 дня назад +1

      @@HoopsReference You're so right! My bad. I got the wrong year, and Dynasty is just what they say... bit Wiseman did earn a ring.

    • @tiagolopes2740
      @tiagolopes2740 2 дня назад

      ​@@J.Ragland-hz1erHe didnt even play smh

    • @J.Ragland-hz1er
      @J.Ragland-hz1er 2 дня назад

      @@HoopsReference I don't control the volume in your head. Nor do I feel like jumping through the hoops necessary to use italics and/or bold print.

    • @J.Ragland-hz1er
      @J.Ragland-hz1er 2 дня назад

      @@tiagolopes2740 When James Wiseman sustained the injury which caused him to sit out a season, he (Wiseman) had earned the starting center position and Kevon Looney was the backup.
      Sustaining an injury during play = "Giving up the body" for the team, which is looked at as an example of sacrifice.
      By NBA tradition, a player cannot lose their starting position due to injury, since they were not beaten out by a teammate for the position.
      This means James Wiseman was still on the roster, and that the starting position would (or should) automatically be his upon return, even if it was the 7th game of the Finals.
      Thus Wiseman "Earned" his ring. 🫡

  • @Nilsbigchills
    @Nilsbigchills 2 дня назад +1

    Give Wiseman a chance trust

  • @MrMaxLego
    @MrMaxLego 2 дня назад

    yaniteddddd good vid bro

  • @Thomas-j3e
    @Thomas-j3e 2 дня назад +3

    Wiseman last year was top 30th in the league in rebounds and got two contested rebounds a game.

  • @Birds-6ers
    @Birds-6ers 2 дня назад

    Best t shirt award 🔔🤘🏾

  • @ifheavenwashuman
    @ifheavenwashuman 2 дня назад +1

    Nice shirt. You have great taste. Sixers in 7.

  • @JKLauderdale
    @JKLauderdale 2 дня назад +2

    I've got no issues with the man but I hope he's been banking those paychecks. He's not long for this league and you KNOW those millions he made, HALF went to taxes and his agent.

    • @J.Ragland-hz1er
      @J.Ragland-hz1er День назад

      @@JKLauderdale Wiseman is not long for this league? 🤔 15 players = 3 UNITS = 3 Ctrs per team = 90 Centers. CTR + PF = 180 spots. I think Wiseman, who IS a bucket, can manage to stay among the top 180 bigs.

  • @christopherhorn1161
    @christopherhorn1161 2 дня назад +1

    I think Wiseman can be serviceable as a Clint Capela type but his problem is he needs to play with players and in a system that can create shots for him.
    Golden State is about spacing, player/ball movement and i feel Wiseman needs to play in a far simpler system. Detroit's problem is they haven't matured as a team and Wiseman isnt the type to manufacture his own offense

    • @J.Ragland-hz1er
      @J.Ragland-hz1er 2 дня назад

      @@christopherhorn1161 The Pistons were injury-plagued. Wiseman, who is still only the age of a traditional NBA Sophomore, did not pass the "0.5 Second Offense" test to Pistons standards, so they parted ways.

  • @Paulie_Geelie
    @Paulie_Geelie 2 дня назад +12

    I still think James Wiseman could've been a good player in the league if he was drafted to a team without championship expectations and was allowed to play through his mistakes and learn what he needs to do better. He didn't get any real development minutes in his first two seasons, and by the time he was sent to a team where he could actually get minutes, he was older, his reputation was worse, and his confidence was shot.
    I mean imagine if the Warriors had drafted Lamelo instead, would they have tolerated his shot chucking, highlight chasing, ball dominating, lazy defending ways? Would he have been allowed to develop the way he has in Charlotte, or would his weaknesses have caused Steve Kerr to shut him out?

    • @rdubb6592
      @rdubb6592 2 дня назад +5

      The warriors developed Jordan Poole. Lamelo would’ve been amazing in the warriors offense don’t overthink it some players are meant for it some ain’t.

    • @Antonio-h7c
      @Antonio-h7c 2 дня назад +2

      He was balling end of last year just had Monty and Kerr who only play vet he got way better at setting screen and rim protection always ran floor good was a really good lob threat

    • @rdubb6592
      @rdubb6592 2 дня назад +6

      @@Antonio-h7c he barely got minutes on a pistons team that was one of the worst teams of all time

    • @Antonio-h7c
      @Antonio-h7c 2 дня назад +1

      @@rdubb6592 what's yo point Killian got more minutes than Ivey and Ivey way better pistons had terrible coaching and management last year

    • @rdubb6592
      @rdubb6592 2 дня назад

      @@Antonio-h7c no he didn’t.

  • @jonysparks1
    @jonysparks1 День назад

    The warriors consistently are picking Sam Bowie instead of Michael Jordan to this day. Without the curry era it looks like we're doomed to go back to irrelevancy.. :-(😢

  • @paramiko
    @paramiko День назад

    Surpised a lot of wiseman fans.
    Also I hope. Indy is a good fit for him just want the east to be more exciting than last season.

  • @waff6ix
    @waff6ix 2 дня назад +5

    STILL WISH THEY DRAFTED LAMELO INSTEAD💯MELO WOULDVE BEEN SO PERFECT INSTEAD OF JORDAN POOLE

    • @KH-ou4st
      @KH-ou4st 2 дня назад +3

      But they needed a big man and they still do

    • @mohammadalavi6228
      @mohammadalavi6228 2 дня назад +2

      They wouldn’t have won in 2022 if they did this. The butterfly effect is everything

    • @hyabberhane
      @hyabberhane 2 дня назад +1

      @@mohammadalavi6228Yes they would’ve lmao tf Lamelo in 2022 was way better than Poole

    • @slobberkissintl3548
      @slobberkissintl3548 2 дня назад

      LaMelo can't stay healthy

  • @braedon2441
    @braedon2441 2 дня назад +1

    I really believe he will do well in indy

    • @Thomas-j3e
      @Thomas-j3e 2 дня назад +1

      He will do great in Indiana! Have you seen him is is bigger and more confident this year.!

  • @JRGV_828
    @JRGV_828 2 дня назад +2

    to be fair, he was pretty irrelevant last season, so you could make the argument that he met that in 4 years not 5.

    • @Thomas-j3e
      @Thomas-j3e 2 дня назад +1

      Only top 30th in rebounds and two contested rebounds a game last year. Playing in only one thousand minutes. Give him a chance he is only 23 years old.

  • @Elkillvis01
    @Elkillvis01 2 дня назад

    I honestly thought they would draft Ball in the 2020 draft.

  • @Robi2009
    @Robi2009 2 дня назад

    I don't get it - if he wanted to play under Hardaway, because he clearly thought of him as a good coach and/or role-model, since his tenure in the NBA, why was it such a big deal?
    In Europe it's pretty common players go after their fav coaches and nobody bats an eye

    • @stevek5060
      @stevek5060 2 дня назад +2

      The NCAA has rules about giving High School players money. In this case, it looked like Penny Hardaway was paying for Wiseman to play for his high school team (which he kinda was).
      Considering the penalty was paying 11K to a charity, that was a very minor slap on the wrist. He should have paid it and worked on his game in college. He might have been able to address some of his current short-comings there.

  • @stevecarpenter4702
    @stevecarpenter4702 2 дня назад

    The knicks should not make a trade. They should just wait and see if they Wiseman

  • @Antonio-h7c
    @Antonio-h7c 2 дня назад +2

    Wiseman bout to ball this year started last year with limited minutes

    • @konzza
      @konzza 2 дня назад

      Started with limited minutes and role and ended with limited minus and role, because he wasn't good enough to get into rotation for the worst team in the league.

  • @RobGradyVO
    @RobGradyVO 2 дня назад +1

    ey as long as he not a dumbass with money he's still set for generational wealth lol. All he needs to do is keep 5 Mill plus in Savings and he can just literally sit. Im sure Tacko Fall is doing similar lol

  • @wak001
    @wak001 2 дня назад

    ngl hoops kinda looks like blarg mixed with jeromeasf

  • @oompaloompa6064
    @oompaloompa6064 2 дня назад

    Even Wiseman’s youtube channel is a bust 😭😭😭

  • @Tyson-w3b
    @Tyson-w3b 2 дня назад

    You know I've been watching your channel for YEARS & THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IVE EVER SEEN YOU 😂😂😂

  • @dennisking1445
    @dennisking1445 2 дня назад +2

    Steve Kerr is not the right coach for young guys developing he has talent and I think he will show everybody his talent with the pacers

  • @scottwickett1273
    @scottwickett1273 22 часа назад

    He was always horrible.
    Signed,
    Pistons fans

  • @kevinjameslopez6435
    @kevinjameslopez6435 2 дня назад

    You can atleast memorize your script at the beggining instead of reading it. Lol

  • @Thomas-j3e
    @Thomas-j3e 2 дня назад +28

    Stop using wiseman as clickbait. Your statistics are bogus. He will fill the Jalen smith role. He is only 23 years old and bigger this year and more confident. He will be better in Indiana. Go Pacers

    • @andrecambridge4474
      @andrecambridge4474 2 дня назад +51

      Wiseman stans. Gross.

    • @MalachiFlynnfan38
      @MalachiFlynnfan38 2 дня назад +27

      Their is no way you made 3 paragraph comments sucking off this man you don’t even know

    • @berserkmonk5331
      @berserkmonk5331 2 дня назад +13

      Yes, Wiseman is all the Pacers need.
      Get rid of that Myles Turner guy. Matter of fact, send that guy to the warriors 👀

    • @DeVonAmbitious
      @DeVonAmbitious 2 дня назад +1

      ​@andrecambridge4474 What's worst Rudy Gobert stans or James Wiseman stans? 😂

    • @HoopsReference
      @HoopsReference  2 дня назад +31

      You only think the stats are “bogus” because they hurt your feelings. Sorry my accurate stats got you in your feels i guess

  • @Thomas-j3e
    @Thomas-j3e 2 дня назад +2

    Wiseman is not a Bust. He is only 23 years old. He has improved on defense! In 2022-2023 he started 24 games played 25 minutes. Scored 12 points a game. 8 rebounds the defense went from 30th to 15th in games he started.

  • @nehemiahwhitaker7528
    @nehemiahwhitaker7528 2 дня назад +1

    I really thought he was going to be the future of the warriors now it's just sad he's a warmer on the worst team in the league

    • @lettuce508
      @lettuce508 2 дня назад +5

      The pacers are not the worst team in the league

    • @Skribbs510
      @Skribbs510 2 дня назад

      @@lettuce508 right like wth they were just in the ecf

    • @KH-ou4st
      @KH-ou4st 2 дня назад +7

      @@lettuce508he probably thought he was still on the pistons

    • @Thomas-j3e
      @Thomas-j3e 2 дня назад +1

      Wiseman has worked hard this off-season! He is bigger and more confident. Will fight for back up position.

    • @stevenmcmullen893
      @stevenmcmullen893 2 дня назад

      Wiseman over furan

  • @thomasmontgomery805
    @thomasmontgomery805 2 дня назад

    I’m like number 420 hell yeah

  • @Iamxavierjohnson
    @Iamxavierjohnson 2 дня назад

    YTNM