Was Halo 4 Better Than I Remember?

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • I hadn't played Halo 4 in its entirety in a few years, so I decided to pop it in (select it from the MCC menu) and do a full game legendary playthrough. In this video, I go over my thoughts on the game. I talk about the multiplayer a bit but this is mostly just about the campaign.

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  • @PepsiManX360
    @PepsiManX360 Год назад +825

    Cortana from Halo 4 was thick.

  • @PANCAKEMINEZZ
    @PANCAKEMINEZZ Год назад +112

    9:10 The Mantis is one of the few good things 343 added to the series that feels very "Halo". Halo is a series that I really don't think needs mechs, and there was a really good chance that they could have added something really dumb... like something that really didn't fit, like a Gundam styled mech. But instead, surprisingly, 343 added a mech that looks pretty grounded and adheres to quite a bit of old art style quirks Halo had, such as: UNSC equipment having a near future, industrial-military design; focus on 45 degree angles; and generally being something that you could see normal people in the future actually adopting for practical purposes.
    One of the things I like about the Mantis is that is looks like at one point this thing could have been a loader of some kind (not unlike the one from Aliens, which is a massive inspiration to classic Halo). Hell, swap out the arms, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if the UNSC uses these things as cargo loaders when not used for combat. It's a fairly unique design and one that doesn't go over the top. It doesn't try and add robot arms or look like a walking Pelican like the HW Cyclops (a design that fits HW's out there but inspired art style, but doesn't fit in mainline Halo).
    Mantis is cool.

    • @monkigunfromhalo6653
      @monkigunfromhalo6653 Год назад +8

      Mantis is life

    • @erikssonown
      @erikssonown Год назад +17

      On the research station when defending the composer a marine/security/worker says something to the tune of it being used as a loader and just refitted with armaments now that they need to defend themselves if I remember correctly

    • @relevant3773
      @relevant3773 Год назад +7

      Wait till this dude finds out much of Halo is inspired by Gundam

    • @jackychang9148
      @jackychang9148 Год назад +3

      Apparently the Mantis is based on some of the data for The Prototype from Halo Legends.

    • @bruhgod123
      @bruhgod123 Год назад +1

      you do realize halo 4 takes like 4 years after half of africa was glassed every human colony was destroyed the entire naval and military force was wiped out and humanity being set back from a tier 3 species to a tier 1 species with the flood being on the planet as well

  • @coltforceplayer
    @coltforceplayer 6 месяцев назад +2

    Midnight is good cause it’s like one of the few levels in all of Halo (minus Halo 2) that doesn’t start you with the Assault Rifle

  • @MrMcEggz
    @MrMcEggz Год назад +102

    Ngl the master chief design in halo four is underrated

    • @farhanprabaswara8912
      @farhanprabaswara8912 6 месяцев назад +8

      I even liked it, more like a spacesuit with armor

    • @squidoverlord3362
      @squidoverlord3362 5 месяцев назад +22

      Bungie changes chiefs armor 2..tecnicaly 3x. No one bats an eye.
      343 changes it 1x everyone looses there minds
      (If bungie made the h4 mc armor no one would care... #stupidity imo)

    • @squidoverlord3362
      @squidoverlord3362 5 месяцев назад

      The h4 armor shoulda been a halo 5 or infinite armor set
      ​@@farhanprabaswara8912

    • @primary2630
      @primary2630 5 месяцев назад +12

      @@squidoverlord3362 because of the way they changed it. Nano machines?? That never existed before and never mentioned again. It's bad.

    • @squidoverlord3362
      @squidoverlord3362 5 месяцев назад

      @@primary2630 yea it is a bit silly. Even i thought it was dumb back then, but i still liked how it looked tbh

  • @X379
    @X379 Год назад +38

    I always thought you were a little too harsh in your previous thoughts of H4 so it's nice to see you've shown it some love. I agree that across all difficulties the ammo scarcity is really annoying since I prefer human weapons but overall I thought it was better than 343's other Halo games. Looking forward to seeing you break down Halo 5 too, despite it being the worst lol

  • @Weesee_I
    @Weesee_I Год назад +10

    H4's multiplayer support was really strange back in the day. I remember one forge creator from the old THFE complaining that 343 had put the BTB map he submitted into SWAT. Yes, they put the map designed for 8v8 big team battle was being used for fucking SWAT.

  • @dotdotwav
    @dotdotwav Год назад +97

    Halo 4’s story with Halo 5’s gameplay would’ve actually been a really good game

    • @flametoooth
      @flametoooth Год назад +23

      Dissagree

    • @monkigunfromhalo6653
      @monkigunfromhalo6653 Год назад +20

      ​​​@@HalofanLagergrenbro you have an infinite profile picture, your taste isn't much better then oc.

    • @camilhhh2967
      @camilhhh2967 Год назад +22

      @@monkigunfromhalo6653 Infinite is a great game.

    • @dg7347
      @dg7347 Год назад

      ⁠@@camilhhh2967infinite is trash

    • @bobdylan1968
      @bobdylan1968 Год назад +8

      ​@@monkigunfromhalo6653infinite is great. Enough. Stop judging it by a game if no longer is. That's not fair.
      It was always free and it's not remotely the same game it was.

  • @twinsunscollector3863
    @twinsunscollector3863 Год назад +5

    *Level has ammo*
    Frogarchist: “I like this level”

  • @brainc0la-_-
    @brainc0la-_- Год назад +3

    Having a pocket Cortana hologram would be sick. "Cortana, how can i remove this catalytic converter with the least amount of noise?"

  • @ajaisehmbi4481
    @ajaisehmbi4481 Год назад +3

    they should have made chief look like how he did in halo 3 because that's what were continuing from. Like did Cortana make him new armor during his nap, like what.

    • @TheNatos
      @TheNatos 7 месяцев назад +2

      IIRC, someone from 343 basically said "nanobots upgraded him".
      dumb AF, but hey thats 343 for ya

  • @CharliReef
    @CharliReef 25 дней назад

    Honestly my favorite part about Halo 4 is probably the gunplay, the guns just feel incredible to use for some reason

  • @BigJMC
    @BigJMC 7 месяцев назад

    Del Rio: Left the Masterchief on Requiem 😊
    Fleet Comm: You did what?!?!

  • @skaraotzky9114
    @skaraotzky9114 2 месяца назад

    Never in my life have I thought Id see Agalloch mentioned THIS randomly

  • @quesoquesadila6094
    @quesoquesadila6094 Месяц назад +1

    I unironically liked halo 4 and halo 5 armor design. It felt more protective somehow and fit the art style of those games better than the original armor. I don’t think it should have been in the game because chief had no way to get it but it was rather appealing imo

  • @cmaster39
    @cmaster39 8 месяцев назад +1

    I think 4 was good it just had execution issues when it came to moments of payoff. Example we needed more didact for him the be the villian and not finish him in a QTE. OR we needed to focus more in on cheif and cortana to focus on humanizing cheif and helping him finally break from being the soldier he always had to be (this man has been fighting wars as a soldier since his teens)

  • @adamrumer2736
    @adamrumer2736 5 месяцев назад

    You forgot to mention how amazing Didact’s speech was post campaign!

  • @flipnog
    @flipnog 7 месяцев назад +1

    Not sure if you've been told but I'd just like to say you are a great commentator. No "ummms" or "uhhhhs". Your videos are great

  • @mikevivona-z2u
    @mikevivona-z2u 7 месяцев назад

    What I always like playing through "Shutdown" - Fighting Covenant + Promethians together; Dissloving the Hunters in 1 shot with the Incineration Cannon is so, so very satisfying.

  • @Dosnmeda
    @Dosnmeda 7 месяцев назад

    I only beat it on Heroic, but I really loved fighting against the Prometheans. The Knights can teleport have swords and can spawn watchers, so you have to try and pick them from a distance. You can't throw grenades at them and they are guarded by the watcher's shields, so you need to take care of those first. At the same time crawlers literally come at you from all angles, trying to close in on you so you have to fight them off with close distance weapons. Your attention is always shifting between the three, which leads to great combat encounters.
    All in all, the Covenant are probably still my favorite enemy, but I prefer fighting Prometheans over fighting Brutes or the Flood.

  • @alexanderackerman3807
    @alexanderackerman3807 Год назад +6

    It’s definitely my favorite of the modern Halo games. The cortana story is great even if the didact was boring and forgettable. The graphics are probably the best on the 360. The mammoth level was really cool and I liked that you could pilot a mech and finally pilot a pelican (even if that wasn’t traffic interesting). But most importantly I liked that it actually had Co-op campaign.

  • @PhilosophicallyAmerican
    @PhilosophicallyAmerican 8 месяцев назад

    I've never been a fan of silent protagonists. I like that they made Chief more human and gave him more depth. It wasn't a revolutionary story but it was told rather well.

  • @huh-nx8vg
    @huh-nx8vg 5 месяцев назад

    I like the armor change, but I don't like how it changed while he was alone on a ship in a cryopod

  • @Elfangor567
    @Elfangor567 7 месяцев назад

    The CoD thing is so spot on. Ironically, while Halo 4 cut firefight (for some reason), Modern Warfare 3 (released a year earlier) adopted their own version of firefight known as Survival. CoD learned from Halo and enhanced their game, but Halo tried to emulate and it didn't work.
    Also, maybe a hot-take, Spartan Ops should have been reworked into a spin-off game like ODST. The way it was released was annoying and often felt samey. It needed the tighter experience offered by a campaign.

  • @atch4764
    @atch4764 Год назад +3

    The ammo capacity in this game is awful. probably my least favorite part.
    imo halo 4 was decent, if the gunplay was better (like 5's maybe) then i would enjoy it more, but its just meh. also..
    I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION THAN ME. BLOCKED AND REPORTED FOR SPAM
    good vid bro, i enjoyed it

  • @Androsynth75
    @Androsynth75 6 месяцев назад

    I agree with your take. I liked several things about the game: The Chief/Cortana stuff felt like an actual evolution of Halo. Great stuff, and probably (just speaking of 4) the best thing 343 did with the franchise, it's just a shame they can't keep a coherent overall plot together to save their life. Gameplay was good, but enemy spam was rampant and the new faction was mostly just alright to fight. I didn't like a lot of the new weapons. Everything else was 'something something didact, something something librarian' and all that managed to do was muddle up the lore/setting. My group really liked spartan ops, it was a great PVE option as we had, by this point, kinda burned out on your typical SWAT multiplayer stuff. 4 is decent. I didn't hate it. But the cracks were starting to show.

  • @BaronLickilicky
    @BaronLickilicky Год назад +5

    I've been playing Halo games since CE launched in 2001, and personally, I love Halo 4. I'd rate it as one of my favourite Halo campaigns. Nice to hear balance perspective for a change!

  • @Liamzy
    @Liamzy Год назад +1

    Halo 4 multiplayer was really fun but the forerunner enemies in campaign are just straight up annoying, the constant teleporting around, those little drones that revive stuff and the mass amounts of them as well. I have to say tho the cutscenes and the story isn't bad at all, I still liked Halo 4 overall, it's just not 1,2 or 3 which I'm so biased to also wrote this before watching the video and I'm glad we share some of the same thoughts

  • @jacksonbarkerthebluehairedfox
    @jacksonbarkerthebluehairedfox 4 месяца назад

    I really liked the ending of Halo 4 where Cortana used hardlight technology to give herself a physical form to wish Chief her final goodbye.

  • @Grizcat-
    @Grizcat- Год назад +2

    The soundtrack is amazing and I hear nothing of it and it is criminal

  • @elconejofunco
    @elconejofunco Год назад +2

    The campaign would've been better if the promethean weapons were more fun. Because the game is designed to make you use a ton of ammo, you'll inevitably be using the weapons that you get from Knights in many scenarios. 343 just didn't do a great job adding to Halo's armory.

  • @cryofsolace4840
    @cryofsolace4840 7 месяцев назад

    I really love Halo 4 after all this time. When I played it as a kid I didn't really love the sound or art design, but I was captivated by the story and still am. I'm just a sucker for drama! Maybe weird, but I actually do like the Created Uprising story arc, I guess I just wish they had done more with it. It makes a lot of AI characters feel unsatisfying, and AI are weirdly integral to Halo's story.

  • @clintelkins9630
    @clintelkins9630 13 дней назад

    I love Halo 4, the story is great with Chief and Cortanas dynamic, and ima just be honest; it's fun. That's all that matters. So many memorable moments, so much good music, I just enjoy playing it

  • @Nixus237
    @Nixus237 6 месяцев назад

    They didn’t really make chief a new character they just kept him lore accurate to the books since 343 wanted to include more lore than the bungie trilogy did. Ever since the first book chief was a caring man that wanted to make sure he could save as many people as possible

  • @mrmcgilljr2455
    @mrmcgilljr2455 7 месяцев назад

    If Halo 4 had the og art style and a good soundtrack it would have been remembered as one of the best halos ever.

  • @ChefandTheArbistor
    @ChefandTheArbistor Год назад +3

    I prefer halo 5 to halo 4. I somewhat had fun in halo 5 (granted the story was trash) but in halo 4 I played it cuz I felt like I had to. Master chief feels to weak, his shields are almost non existent, and the ammo scarcity is maybe my biggest problem with this game. Let me elaborate.
    Halo infinite’s warship gbrakkon starts you off with the sidekick and assault rifle. I threw away the sidekick (which was a mistake) but I kept the ar. Despite there being only like 2 ammo caches and 2 assault rifles on the ground I was able to keep it to the end of the mission.
    in Halo 4’s dawn I ran out of ammo on the ar every 4-5 minutes (not an exaggeration.) and there were hardly any assault rifles in the frigate.
    Halo 4 is in my opinion (based on pure fun) the worst 343 have ever made.

  • @LiamYager
    @LiamYager 5 месяцев назад

    story and gameplay aside. I remember loving the box art and playing that first mission thinking wow this game looks amazing. Halo 4 has surely aged far better than most xbox 360 games.
    I think people would have been more receptive to Halo 4 if it and Infinite were swapped. Open world Halo game similar to Halo 3 in 2012 and then a COD style Halo in 2021.

  • @matth3wc
    @matth3wc Год назад +4

    Interesting, You like the 3rd level forrunner. It's my least favorite by far going to those two open spaces where you have to take 3 of those blue orbs was a pain on Legendary. And I hated the ghost run, it graphically looked like a whole different sci-fi game. But I'm glad someone liked that level.

  • @ReyRey277
    @ReyRey277 5 месяцев назад +1

    Halo 4 had potential.... The whole dam thing had potential....

  • @Utomneian
    @Utomneian 9 месяцев назад

    i like the idea of dealing with The Didact and all that, but the Prometheans were definitely a bit too annoying to fight, too tanky at least, you relied on finding power weapons to dispatch them faster, but those were often a luxury depending on the area you were in. i never owned Halo 4 on Xbox, so i don't know if much changed with the MCC version, but i enjoy the MP PvP of Halo 4, even if i am not super keen on all the CoD elements. i like sprinting, but i am not a big fan of the loadout system, and item call-ins could have not existed. with that said, for what exists in Action Sack and SWAT, i like Halo 4 MP a lot.

  • @NOISECOREMafiaTV
    @NOISECOREMafiaTV Год назад +1

    I never bought it, I played it at my step sisters place after babysitting and the multiplayer completely turned me off from getting it, especially as Reach is one of my favorite games & multiplayer experiences of all time. I miss those days.
    When I did get around to the campaign I also agree that the Cortana story is a lot better than the Forerunner story, Cortana’s story was competent and logical whereas all the lore dumping about the forerunners really killed some of the mystery I like with science fiction stories

  • @arostiredorsomething
    @arostiredorsomething 10 месяцев назад

    Im playing through every halo game on mcc (for nearly the first time excluding 3 4 and reach) been having a good time so far

  • @CharliReef
    @CharliReef 25 дней назад

    Halo 4 is better with the catch skull on imo, getting trapped behind cover by 3 different pulse grenades with no shields is a really intense and memorable experience lol

  • @NisAenino
    @NisAenino Год назад

    I'll preface that Halo 4 is my childhood. I'm biased and I know it. It's kinda amazing how both you and I had the same idea at the same time to play the game again, but that is not the point. My story is: I saw Master Chief collection discounted, remembered having the time of my life on halo 4 and being curious why other people didn't liked it as much as the previous titles. So far I've played only Halo: Reach and Halo 4 (on normal difficulty, I don't play Fps a lot). There is one thing that I didn't like after comparing the two: not seeing my health bar. The second, in Reach (I don't know if it's spelled like this) in almost all checkpoints you can choose the armor skill. In Halo 4 that is pretty rare AND, to be completely honest, they are not as cool or useful. I tried leggendary: it's not really fun. It's cool that they deal more damage and I don't actually mind the abundance of enemies (it makes me feel as I was really in a military operation, alone against an army, and in normal difficulty you can take the hit so going berserk is an option, and I don't know if I like that or not) but as you said I don't like health sponges that require me to empty all of my ammo. To me it should work this way: you hit me hard but that doesn't change that I can hit you hard. It discourages going berserk (punch them untill they die, shoot if necessary) and requires to be more tactical. I think playing with some skulls activated on a lower difficulty helps. Some of them are (imo) kinda funny, like the one where some enemies just throw a disgusting amount of grenades on you. I'm not a Halo expert, I haven't played all of them (yet), so you can figure out by yourself how much weight my opinion has, but wanted to craft this terribly long comment to essentially say: my opinion of Halo 4 didn't change. I still love it despite, probably, lacking some of the things that made the previous titles better. I've covered the main points that I wanted to say

  • @GalCon99
    @GalCon99 10 месяцев назад

    After not touching a Halo game for 6 years I recently got MCC and I'll be honnest: Halo 4 just doesn't quite cut it with nostalgia as the other games.
    The way I experience it, the other games have a reason to explore all features. Usually an accuracy weapon like the BR of even just a pistol can deal with all non-shielded enemies. When such a weapon is not present, say for example the start of Exodus, the games ecourgage you to explore other weapons. Even very common weapons like the needler or plasma rifle become tempting to pick up and mess around with. Halo 2 and 3 had dual wielding as a very powerful alternative. Halo 3 ODST even removed the BR alltogether.
    In Halo 4 the Forerunner weapons add nothing new to the game. The boltshot can be used as a pocket shotgun which is cool but other than that they are just another pistol, assault rifle, BR, shotgun and sniper rifle like the UNSC has, but with a more colorful coating. The covenant doesn't do itself any favors by getting rid of niche weapons like the brute shot or needle rifle. There is always a BR, DMR, carbine or light rifle around so there is no reason to every explore other weapons in this game.
    Because of this Halo 4 becomes very repetitive very quickly.

  • @regularphill
    @regularphill Год назад +4

    Yeah composer is my favorite level in the game. I feel like every encounter is crafted with care and reminded me that 343 is capable if they can get their act together. I guess its to late now huh...

    • @arbiter5519
      @arbiter5519 Год назад +4

      Same dude. It reminds me of the early games levels in the ships or space stions.

  • @SuperAaron55555
    @SuperAaron55555 4 месяца назад

    Sorry, but John 117 hasn’t been a faceless hero that I project myself on since 2001 when I read the Fall of Reach.
    Damn I’m old.

  • @yelsew6907
    @yelsew6907 7 месяцев назад

    Forever I've been saying that halo 4 would of worked as a great epilogue to 3 and even a good finale to the series

  • @drink_ayahuasca
    @drink_ayahuasca Год назад +31

    The Frog never disappoints

  • @Zuflux
    @Zuflux Год назад

    I'm giving you a like solely because you mentioned Agalloch.
    Also if you played this on anything but a 360 you're missing at least some of the reason many people dislike this game aside from the Didact story component; The fucking framerate was atrocious. Especially the frame pacing. I remember feeling like I was suddenly a novice at FPS's again when playing H4 for the first time. Not because my aim was bad, but readability in this game is terrible, especially in gunfights vs Prometheans. It's hard to tell what 'state' their health is in. With Elites you know their shield flares up more with depletion. Brutes go Berserk, Hunters limp/berserk, etc. But here it's like, you shoot something and eventually it dies. If you can aim and hit at all because the game's juddering like mad the whole time.

  • @magz5850
    @magz5850 Год назад +1

    7:10 Crazy to hear ab Agalloch as a reference

  • @xXLegoPlaystation3Xx
    @xXLegoPlaystation3Xx 7 месяцев назад

    Homie says he’s a boomer at 22 years old. Cries in 28 years old 😢

  • @evanwaters392
    @evanwaters392 6 месяцев назад

    Halo 4 was my first halo, so I’ve always had a place for it lol. I think it’s always been given to much hate for no reason

  • @Dommy610
    @Dommy610 9 месяцев назад

    I personally really liked Halo 4. I basically have the same opinion you do, as it is the best of the 343 games. I've never played Halo for the multiplayer so I wouldn't know if it's bad or not. Lastly the way you kill the Diadect is satisfying at least to me. I don't think boss fights tend to go well with 1st Person Shooters (although I think Entropy : Zero 2 did its boss fights amazingly) period. Also considering the fact that he had the ability to grab Chief using some off-brand Force, it made sense to make killing him more scripted rather than gameplay oriented. You can't make a character like him have a good boss fight. To make the fight feel fair, his power would have had to have been drastically reduced. Anyway I'm on a tangent now 8/10 in my book would play again.

  • @SodiePopCornPop
    @SodiePopCornPop Год назад

    Even though I wasn't and still am not a huge fan of Halo 4's multiplayer, I DO really like the BTB in Halo 4. So fun.

  • @MercilessMe
    @MercilessMe 7 месяцев назад

    If halo 4 didnt have the quicktime or bottons that required a small animation it would have went from a 6/10 to a 8/10 for me.

  • @emerobo
    @emerobo 9 дней назад

    Yes. but also 4 came out while I was in college so I have strong nostalgia for it 😂

  • @ItatsuMagnatsa
    @ItatsuMagnatsa 11 месяцев назад

    Bungie Era Halo: Humans are Forerunners.
    343 Era Halo: Humans and Forerunners are Not the Same but entirely Different Species and were at War because the Flood drove "Ancient Humanity" out of their System and started to Spread on a Forerunner World.

  • @MarsiB013
    @MarsiB013 Год назад +1

    The main thing holding me back from playing the campaign is Chief's hideously ugly "shell".

  • @s3eriousbl9ck26
    @s3eriousbl9ck26 8 месяцев назад +1

    Sure the campaign wasnt as good as before but the multiplayer is whr Halo 4 shined. For 1, thats what most people were doing in every Halo game and imo thats the best way to judge its gameplay.

    • @MrDoBaKflips
      @MrDoBaKflips 8 месяцев назад

      Uhhh everyone hated Halo 4 MP and it killed Halo my dude.

    • @JuanPablo-su6vw
      @JuanPablo-su6vw 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@MrDoBaKflips shut up fanboy

    • @s3eriousbl9ck26
      @s3eriousbl9ck26 Месяц назад

      ​@@MrDoBaKflipsno that was reach. There's another video here on RUclips that proves it. h4 sold the most

  • @Zivin
    @Zivin Год назад +1

    Remember when they said that there was going to be multiple season of Spartan Ops to contribute the story in game and it was so hated that they barely finished the first season and then stopped 💀 also THEY NEVER MENTION THE JANUS KEY EVER AGAIN AND IT MAKES ME MAD

    • @stylesrj
      @stylesrj 8 месяцев назад

      Didn't Captain Vor take the Janus Key into the Void and that's why it's never mentioned again?
      Hashtag WarframeAndHaloAreConnected

  • @ricdafric7565
    @ricdafric7565 28 дней назад

    343 Studios best work, hands down. Running through it now.

  • @beleagueredbeluga5228
    @beleagueredbeluga5228 Год назад +10

    No. Halol 4 was trash when it came out, and it is still trash today. The fact that even worse Halos have come out since doesnt magically make Halol 4 good now or ever.
    Edit: I finished the video on background now so I mightve missed it, but did he talk about the failed plot point of trying to make the Master Chief into some sort of lame chosen one? Yep, that was pretty stupid. Turns out that the Chief never had any luck at all, and instead literally all that happened leading up to the Chief meeting the librarian was foreseen, and thus it was all preordained by her that he was going be a.... God? Whatever, it was dumb.

  • @LordsOfSalem666
    @LordsOfSalem666 Год назад +1

    Halo 4 had some great ideas but they were let down by poor execution. I still play the original trilogy with very little time being spent on Reach, 4 and 5. Infinite never appealed to me but I may bite bullet since it's half price on Steam

  • @afanoflafear
    @afanoflafear Год назад +4

    Halo 4 has always been an awesome game to me - fixed alot of things BUNGiE did wrong with Halo 3 in my opinion.

    • @fun2211
      @fun2211 Год назад +2

      What are you on about?

    • @afanoflafear
      @afanoflafear Год назад +1

      @@fun2211 ok let's start with the shotgun, Halo 3's shotgun was awful - in Halo 4 they fixed that by giving as the scattershot
      Alot of Halo 3's multiplayer maps felt bland and average (especially compared to Halo 2)
      I was impressed with Halo 4's maps
      The LMG / Saw was a nice addition to the weapon palette.

  • @colin4tor781
    @colin4tor781 Год назад +4

    I wrote a college paper on how Halo 4's biggest sin was the fact it wasnt long enough for its plot to be fleshed out. Halo 4 is my Halo the one i grew up playing and the first game to make tear up.

  • @jinxysaberk
    @jinxysaberk 7 месяцев назад

    ngl i don’t have many issues with the story of halo 4. to me it feels incredibly similar to the bungie games and they had to come up with new stuff to add to the lore and i think it was an incredibly hard task.
    the issue of halo 4 stems from the Prometheans are the most annoying enemies from any of the games

  • @themostgenius
    @themostgenius Год назад

    One more thing: Custom loadouts doesn't work because it was so unbalanced. The DMR (eventually patched many months after the game dead) and Boltshot were the clear choices, also I ran Thruster (the only good alternative being Promethean Vision), Infinite Sprint, and Ammo. This allowed me to every game fight maybe 1 person for the best power weapon and then just snowball into free RNG drops. I'm also just a good Halo player in general being a 50 in Halo 3, but Halo 4 was just complete baby mode. Sometimes you can be great at something and still hate it and that was Halo 4. It was just too numbingly easy and repetitive.

    • @stylesrj
      @stylesrj 8 месяцев назад

      Thruster? is that the one that lets you dive quickly out of danger or are you talking about the jetpack? Because yeah, jetpack is the only good thing to use.

    • @themostgenius
      @themostgenius 8 месяцев назад

      @@stylesrj I could flex hard if halo charts still existed because I was a top 50 or 100 halo 4 player in the world. I posted my exact loadout in the previous comment for most matches and jetpack was way too slow to be competitive. If two players are sprinting towards the power weapon, ect, thruster is way more important. in a team setting sometimes i would use promethean vision if the map was like Haven because you could see everything if you controlled the middle of the map. otherwise thruster was the pick.

    • @stylesrj
      @stylesrj 8 месяцев назад

      @@themostgenius
      I liked using the jetpack in Spartan Ops because it lets me get back to where I was before being killed and finish the fight :D

    • @themostgenius
      @themostgenius 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@stylesrj It's fine as a fun mechanic in campaign or spartan ops and even in multiplayer if you enjoy the play style in social modes, ect. the issue is that it was not balanced well for competitive play against thrust or promethean vision. If you like Halo 4 because you like to jetpack around and have fun in spartan ops I totally understand and respect that.

  • @gunnerdude2004
    @gunnerdude2004 6 месяцев назад

    I recommend playing Halo 4 Mythic Overhaul.

  • @lodagin
    @lodagin Год назад +1

    Halo 4 gameplay? Meh, serviceable but not up to halo standards.
    Halo 4 story? Imo different from what we've been used to with trilogy but I personally enjoyed the more emotional approach to Cortana and Chief and I remember actually feeling emotions while playing through the story, unlike H5 which was just the absolute nothing.

  • @RG-zt4ox
    @RG-zt4ox 7 месяцев назад

    I love halo 4, I’m not gonna say it’s perfect there are more than a few problems but I will always love it

  • @tobiasGR3Y
    @tobiasGR3Y Год назад

    22 years old and calling yourself a boomer.
    Christ, 27 and I must be ancient fucking history at this point.

  • @danieldavis9832
    @danieldavis9832 Год назад

    Bringing Cortana back in Infinite is like bringing the emperor back in Star Wars. Like why.

  • @brendenhawley2225
    @brendenhawley2225 6 месяцев назад

    Pretty. Much my thoughts, memorable art design, Mantis was great, First level was great. I did like the multiplayer and have a lot of fun with custom games through. Just making dumb forge map, giving every one random load outs with death penalties and letting chaos reign. I think I might of liked it more than halo 3, but may be just a sucker for all the pretty graphics and have not played halo 3 enough. Halo 2 is my favorite.
    I do dislike how weak the enemy feel, I want my elites to give me a fight.

  • @2killzore
    @2killzore 6 месяцев назад +1

    Make it new fans hate it and want more halo 3 feel, make it feel classic like infinite and they want faster sprinting and the warzone mode back.
    But the cream is halo 4 being seen as good, its juts like the starwars prequels and now the damage is done people claim to like it and see its charms years gone by.
    Its hard enough to guess but the inconsistent feedback is part of the problem and its not solely on 343 im afraid.

  • @mrjriva
    @mrjriva 7 месяцев назад

    I never could understand why people hated Halo 4 so much, I always loved the game

  • @dylans8793
    @dylans8793 11 месяцев назад

    Best 343 halo. I could play multiplayer splitscreen.

  • @AlshepType
    @AlshepType 5 месяцев назад

    It honestly feels like most of your gripes with this game, gameplay wise at least, are tied to the fact that you sorta forced yourself to re-experience it on Legendary

  • @sand5527
    @sand5527 Год назад +1606

    For YEARS I've been saying that I would have preferred a Halo 4 with as little Didact and as much Cortana/Chief as possible. That side of the story was incredible.

    • @Frivia
      @Frivia Год назад +69

      it was overly emotional. id rather go watch a drama movie

    • @tobsmonster2
      @tobsmonster2 Год назад +108

      @@Frivia 343 are so heavy handed with melodrama in their games and I hate it

    • @SentinelEnforcer
      @SentinelEnforcer Год назад +60

      That's pretty much the consensus I hear generally. People love the Chief/Cortana dynamic, but anything related to the Didact/Forerunners was just flat out awful.
      The Didact apparently had all this build up from the books but in practice all he did was act like a darth vader knock off, spouts some empty platitudes about why "humans bad", then is defeated in a QTE event.
      (personally, I didn't care for Halo 4 Chief and Cortana either)

    • @gabrielhersey5546
      @gabrielhersey5546 Год назад +28

      Covie being returned as villains rather being full Allie’s was stupid lame weak writing decision
      Humans Should have been inducted as a covie species ally and spent those 5 years building new weapon tech
      Basically combine new hybrid covie human versions of each old classic weapon for a new age of
      Get this
      Evolving combat evolved
      But nope we got boring ass h4 instead

    • @nomus1172
      @nomus1172 Год назад +14

      I mean it makes sense some elites wouldn’t let go of their religion .
      I mean look at real life cults or religions some people don’t change that quickly especially the more
      The storm covenant is just the scraps of a once powerful empire

  • @lololol924
    @lololol924 Год назад +48

    I feel my opinion is a super minorty, but i actually didnt mind Sarah Palmer's attitude.
    Her purpose is the same as Del Rio's. The whole point was to show that the world had moved on from relying on the Chief and that Spartans are now mass produced. His generation has become obsolete, and it puts you as the player in the scenario of showing the "younger generation" how its done. You can only have that dynamic if there's a bit of antagonism between the chief and the new Spartans.
    By the end the game, its clear that Palmer and the rest of the S4's IDOLIZE the chief as a legend. He just had to earn it for them.

    • @clintelkins9630
      @clintelkins9630 13 дней назад +1

      "Retire old man"
      *survives a point blank nuclear bomb
      No

  • @False_Convoy
    @False_Convoy Год назад +1222

    You didn’t mention my favorite scene, which is the final cutscene. The conversation between chief and lasky at the end is so good.
    “our duty as soldiers is to protect humanity… whatever the cost”
    “You say that like soldiers and humanity are 2 different things, soldiers aren’t machines. We’re just people.”
    One of the best exchanges in the whole franchise imo.

    • @MrShibbles
      @MrShibbles Год назад +138

      “She said that to me once… about being a machine”

    • @reidhanson4755
      @reidhanson4755 Год назад

      I hope you're being sarcastic. That line is shit.
      No shit soldiers are humans. But it is a soldiers duty to protect the race. They're literally oath sworn. It's some cry baby shit to be like 'but we're humans too!'. Fuck that.

    • @watermelon9235
      @watermelon9235 11 месяцев назад +15

      Man you got me crying

    • @UnsungThermidor
      @UnsungThermidor 10 месяцев назад +36

      I was going to say the same thing, this is such an absolutely powerful scene that shows so much about Chief. It also can show him as falling back into what was one of the complaints about the Spartan II's which was their machine like personalities. Cortana helped humanize him, and with her loss he started to regress back to what he was. Its probably one of the, if not THE best scene in all of Halo, and probably one of the more important scenes in video games in relation to the human and soldier aspect.

    • @phantomsanic3604
      @phantomsanic3604 9 месяцев назад +12

      Lasky the GOAT fr

  • @luisgarza7750
    @luisgarza7750 Год назад +149

    I thought originally that Cortana didn’t die but somehow uploaded herself into the planet and it allowed her to live. I loved that they showed how much she means to chief here, and looked forward to guardians… then I played guardians.

    • @SkyeRyderGaming
      @SkyeRyderGaming 8 месяцев назад +9

      I think that is what happened. Except she was saved or downloaded into the Domain rather than Requiem.

    • @anonymousanonymous3707
      @anonymousanonymous3707 2 месяца назад +2

      Let's be honest we've already shown what Cortana means to us because we all suffered that level in Halo3 ... Everything after that , girl is pushing her luck 😂

  • @StatisticColt
    @StatisticColt Год назад +772

    It’s nice to see a video about halo that isn’t just “343I KILLED MY CHILDHOOD”

    • @MExperiences
      @MExperiences Год назад +37

      @@mouthfulofpeanutbutter9753Nothing is canon anymore dude. 343 quite literally accidentally decanonise everything. Because if humans weren’t Forerunners and few humans were reclaimers, that means the human covenant war has no reason to occur. None of the games or books are canon.

    • @daBears06
      @daBears06 Год назад +10

      ​@@mouthfulofpeanutbutter9753dude halo is irrelevant at this point, stop the cap

    • @daBears06
      @daBears06 Год назад +4

      @@mouthfulofpeanutbutter9753 idk, you wanna play halo 3?

    • @NightShinerStudio
      @NightShinerStudio Год назад +48

      ​@@MExperiencesThey didn't decanonize everything. What are you talking about?

    • @MExperiences
      @MExperiences Год назад +21

      @@NightShinerStudio The Human Covenant war started because of two reasons.
      1. Humans are Forerunners.
      2. Humans are Reclaimers.
      In 343’s galaxy of insanity, neither are true anymore, with only a FEW humans being designated as reclaimers.
      The war has no reason to happen, therefore, every Halo book post 2525 is non-canon.

  • @ColdNorth0628
    @ColdNorth0628 Год назад +335

    Am I weird to say that I think Master chief was always a character but his silence was warranted given the context of situations.
    I always felt like we split the duty of main character with him cause he makes small remarks and even jokes when we are not in control, but as soon as it is go time, it is us.
    So even if he is silent for a majority of time in halo 1, and a bit in 2, we still had a shared role to play. Even ODST managed to convey this split role with us playing as the vocal team as Romeo, Dutch, Mickey, and o Gunny Buck himself. Then when it was go time, we were back to Rookie, but even he had a moment of wanting to speak but ultimately never did.

    • @keepitclean8791
      @keepitclean8791 6 месяцев назад +9

      I agree, hearing Chief during gameplay and cutscenes are two different experiences. Players are supposed to fill the boots of Chief during the gameplay and then watch him as a character during the cutscenes.

  • @O2regulator
    @O2regulator Год назад +81

    I honestly had so much fun on halo 4 I was a little kid and wonder if the reason I was able to enjoy it so much was because I wasn’t jaded by years of disappointing games.

  • @dcmetri
    @dcmetri Год назад +297

    Halo 4 was my first halo game that I genuinely invested time into when I was younger, I seriously enjoyed halo 4’s campaign, multiplayer, spartan ops and especially the custom games. I thought it was an alright game, it was a really cool and fun game for a 9 year old kid to get into

    • @therisingsky_Aj
      @therisingsky_Aj Год назад +29

      Hell yeah man. Halo 4 was my first halo game I played. And then later on I played all the others and loved them all

    • @roguespartan2854
      @roguespartan2854 Год назад +8

      Same. Halo 4 was my first game. But it was in the MCC. I loved the hard Sci-fi art style it had. Still love it, but I also came to love Bungie's work

    • @Trancymind
      @Trancymind Год назад +3

      You guys missed out the golden age of Halo (Halo, Halo 2 and Halo 3). Here is my career multiplayer games played online. Halo (0 none), Halo 2 (10K), Halo 3 (23K), Halo 4 (1K), Halo Reach (200), Halo 5 (10K) and Halo Infinite (200). My K/Ds on multiplayer (approximately estimated)- Halo 2: 1.02 Halo 3: 1.42 Halo Reach: 1.25 Halo 4: 1.54 Halo 5: 1.87 (with 30K grenade kills) almost averaged 3 grenade kills per game. Halo Infinite: 1.43

    • @Trancymind
      @Trancymind Год назад +1

      @@Discontent24I just telling the ones who didn't play Halo 2 and 3 on multiplayer that it was the golden age of Halo during that span due to being the best Halo game series including Halo CE and the multiplayer gameplay. I wrote this so that people in the future don't have to ask. And if you want my experience and stories about those moments, well I'm willing to share it with you.

    • @BeffLorg
      @BeffLorg Год назад +4

      No, it wasnt good at all. Look up "halo 4 is worse than you remember" or "343 industries vs the world" they did an amazing job breaking down why this game is a joke. To anyone who had this as their first halo game I am sorry. It's kind of coping at this point with all the evidence around how it flopped.

  • @JasonDuaineHahn
    @JasonDuaineHahn Год назад +219

    The shot at :36 made me laugh. I'll always remember seeing the Didact's face for the first time in-game and just thinking, "who designed this sh*t?" They should have left his helmet on, like Chief

    • @afanoflafear
      @afanoflafear Год назад +9

      They were going for that Frankenstein aesthetic.

    • @zacharyhobia159
      @zacharyhobia159 Год назад +10

      *Takes off glasses*
      "What the fuck is this piece of shit?" 0:36

    • @dg7347
      @dg7347 Год назад +5

      watch the terminals, they explain why he looks like that.

    • @hetornhetorn
      @hetornhetorn Год назад +5

      Vampire voldemort never gets old

    • @silvy3047
      @silvy3047 9 месяцев назад +1

      They're aliens

  • @sandercohen5543
    @sandercohen5543 7 месяцев назад +26

    I'm only 6 minutes in and you already did a much better job at analyzing the gameplay than 90% of people i've talked to/watched videos of.

  • @olekan1351
    @olekan1351 6 месяцев назад +32

    This was the first Halo game I actually played and I loved it. Seriously, it was incredible to me. Then I played the older games and honestly, I didn't really see why Halo 4 got so much hate. I loved them all. As I got older I started to understand why people didn't like it as much, but it was still my first Halo game and I will forever cherish it.

  • @sugarray1345
    @sugarray1345 Год назад +33

    I loved this game so much when it launched. Incredible graphics, weapons and environments. I can’t wait to play this again, as part of the Master Chief Collection, when I pick up my Series X! 👌🔥

  • @DJAdams125
    @DJAdams125 Год назад +375

    The best thing about Halo 4 is the cover art

    • @gogousa6661
      @gogousa6661 Год назад +1

      lol

    • @AlanagilityUK
      @AlanagilityUK Год назад +1

      Ready to go to work 😵‍💫

    • @lúki-ang
      @lúki-ang Год назад +17

      I’ve never understood why people love this game’s cover art so much. It’s not bad, per se, but the entire background is mostly visual noise and Chief’s armor looks off to me compared to how it looks in game. The pose is pretty cool, though

    • @CEOofAutism
      @CEOofAutism Год назад +9

      @@lúki-angit’s the pose

    • @reliantspoon6836
      @reliantspoon6836 Год назад +22

      Cortana's new design and the cover art are the best things

  • @sunburst8810
    @sunburst8810 Год назад +4

    No. The prometheans suck man. Theyre such bad enemies. Galaxy conquering god race that uses drum fed machine guns and pump action shotguns?

    • @tobsmonster2
      @tobsmonster2 Год назад +1

      This has bugged me for years! Why the hell would a race that can teleport, use telekinesis and seemingly form matter out of thin air, need a pump action shotgun, or any guns at all for that matter? Same goes for the Phaeton (Halo 5 promethean aircraft). Why does it even exist when they can teleport etc etc? Mind numbingly lazy additions to the franchise with zero grounding or explanation...then again, that is 343's M.O.

    • @stylesrj
      @stylesrj 8 месяцев назад

      @@tobsmonster2
      Maybe they can do all those powers but they need to still visualise weapons or vehicles or at least have a framework in which to put their power cells and stuff into?
      Like you could teleport long distances but it uses a lot of power to do it on a regular basis.
      Or you could use telekinesis to throw projectiles into the enemy but it's easier to just put a power cell into some metal casing and use your mind to pull the trigger.
      You're asking "Why do Humans have cars? Can't they just walk there?"
      Then again, the guns are shooting projectiles made of "hard light" so the real question is "Why are they NOT using kinetic weapons and instead wasting energy trying to imitate them?"

  • @spat3305
    @spat3305 Год назад +32

    I’ve heard Microsoft forced 343 to release Halo 4 early. It was apparently meant for the Xbox one. Maybe a delay could have done justice. Probably not. I still find it funny that if all the studios MS has, I think 343 might be one of the few good ones despite all the issues with their Halo’s. 😂

    • @Weesee_I
      @Weesee_I Год назад +2

      I don't think that's true. The enemy AI was dialed back from Reach in order to support the higher graphic fidelity, since otherwise it would've been too much for the 360. That's part of why there was a lot of extra cannon fodder. Unless they had started development for the Xbox One, but then MS made them change course part way through? Still, I doubt their intention was to have tons of enemies alongside smarter AI than what we got.

    • @profxssnappedneck2822
      @profxssnappedneck2822 Год назад +4

      IIRC 343 pitched 4 as an Xbox one launch title but Microsoft wanted something strong for the 360 on the financial quarter that 4 ended up releasing

    • @MikoyanGurevichMiG21
      @MikoyanGurevichMiG21 Год назад

      Turn10 Studios and Playground Games with Forza has far been their best studio so far though- their other marquee franchise has done well in comparison to Halo. Right around when Halo 5 divided its community, Forza Horizon was at its absolute peak

    • @jimmythegamer2231
      @jimmythegamer2231 8 месяцев назад +1

      MS has like 30 studios, most of which are great and probably higher up the list than 343, like Obsidian, inExile, Ninja Theory, Double Fine, iD Software, Playground Games, etc. Tf you mean 343 is "one of their few good studios?" Most of the studios they own are good.

    • @Sad_Chief
      @Sad_Chief 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@MikoyanGurevichMiG21oh stop kidding Forza Horizon has been mediocre at best for the past 2 games

  • @matts3845
    @matts3845 Год назад +31

    The mantle is such a phenomenal album, what a welcome surprise mention

    • @NeonNijahn
      @NeonNijahn Год назад +5

      A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

  • @fabrizziogonzales817
    @fabrizziogonzales817 Год назад +107

    Idk how I got Halo 4, but I can surely say that I’m so glad I had it back then. I played it really young, despite not knowing anything about halo lore and of any of the other halo games. I would play the campaign over and over again and it was amazing. Now I have Halo infinite and do the same thing. Maybe one day I’ll play the older Halos, but I’m so glad I had Halo 4 😊 my favorite mission that I would replay is when your in the huge mammoth and you have to take out a wraith tank and you have a sniper rifle in the mammoth and many other weapons

    • @angusframe710
      @angusframe710 Год назад +6

      yea same especially split screen on the xbox 360 it was so fun

    • @funkyreapercat5280
      @funkyreapercat5280 Год назад +2

      This mission is called Reclaimer, it's pretty good!

    • @ELSENIORBACON
      @ELSENIORBACON 8 месяцев назад +2

      You will like them. I was young when the first 2 came out and going from an n64 to halo on the Xbox was mind-blowing. That being said, I really like the remake visuals in the master chief collection. It makes the whole series feel more connected to me.

    • @coltonthompson5978
      @coltonthompson5978 7 месяцев назад +3

      If you like Halo 4, you've got to play the originals! I just finished playing through every Halo campaign and this is how I would rank them.
      S Tier - CE, Halo 3, Halo 2
      A Tier - Reach, ODST, Infinite, Halo Wars
      B Tier - Halo 4, Halo Wars 2
      D Tier - Halo 5

    • @fanglyn
      @fanglyn 7 месяцев назад +2

      if you played any of them you'd know this is actually the most forgettable

  • @woodsyjones
    @woodsyjones Год назад +19

    Bro you gotta make Dead Space videos. After Halo, DS is my favorite franchise. Great video btw

    • @frogarchist
      @frogarchist  Год назад +10

      At some point I'll make a DS2 Hardcore video

    • @quesoquesadila6094
      @quesoquesadila6094 Месяц назад +1

      @@frogarchisttook him a year but he did it lol

  • @Beebos
    @Beebos Год назад +22

    117 + Green and Blue gotta be the two most underrated Halo OSTs

    • @mauz791
      @mauz791 5 месяцев назад

      Agreed, they are amazing ost

  • @Carribla
    @Carribla 10 месяцев назад +3

    Playing this on legendary was a mistake. Id never judge any of the other halos by the legendary play through. Enemies and ammo, along ith inconsistent check points have always been a "problem" in the other halos. Not that we shouldn't judge halo 4 as a game on its own, but obviously there is gonna be comparisons

  • @dappert8178
    @dappert8178 Год назад +8

    Halo 4 was ruined by trying to appeal to a broader audience, and graphical/writing teams being obsessed with making Halo 'their Halo' by changing things for the sake of doing so. Which is only ruined by silly justifications, like Chief having nanomachines in his Mjolnir to modify it to be identical to Gen2 Mjolnir that Cortana doesn't know exist yet.
    But even though Halo 4 has so many issues, I think it's a good game, which is more so praise to the Halo IP being so good that 343 couldn't screw it up instantly. Took Halo 5 for that to happen, and we all know that story.
    Love your videos by the way, looking forward to the next one.

  • @sam_bowles
    @sam_bowles Год назад +5

    I still don't get how Master Chief was frozen in his halo 3 armour (same as halo 2 armour) and wakes up in different armour even though he should have been wearing the same armour for 3 consecutive campaigns not 2

    • @stylesrj
      @stylesrj 8 месяцев назад +3

      I think it was explained as "Nanomachines, son!"

  • @zoniotdd992
    @zoniotdd992 9 месяцев назад +13

    It's very interesting to see people with such different views on like the same series, when it came to multiplayer and everything Halo 4 just clicked the most for me and it was the one that I enjoyed playing the most. It's always interesting to hear someone that felt that but just with a different game in the same series