Provided the block player does not impede on the defender from making the touch on the ball player, it is play on. If the block player prevents defender from making the touch, then penalty against the attacking team.
Isn’t the key the line being run by the dummy runner? If they cross in front of the ball carrier it’s a potential obstruction but if it’s in the back then no problem.
@@touch.screen I think it would be more difficult to police mid-field where defenders are coming forward faster ... I'm mainly against it because I'm horrible at defending it 🙂
No defender is impeded. The closest is 7m away. You can run behind your own players all day along as no defender is denied the chance to make a touch. If this play was made illegal, then that logic should also apply to any passive.
@MrLunchbox80 I just think the sheppard rule provides a clear and straightforward framework for referees to make objective calls. This introduces ambiguity and subjectivity into officiating decisions. Next minute, defenders will be hitting the lead runner and diving, then claiming obstruction. Atleast the sheppard rule somewhat safeguards the sports value of fair play and ensures clear and consistent refereeing.
I referee a lot and as far as I’m concerned the examples you showed there is certainly no obstruction. If the player interferes with the saving mid then it’s a penalty but otherwise I’m fine with that move.
Shepherd, and it's just such a cheap play. There's so many other plays to run and the offensive team should pretty much score everytime without needing to run so a cheap play.
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Play on if no defender is denied a chance to make a touch. It looks like a clever play and a great way to score tries, which we all want to see.
Agreed
It's only an obstruction if a defender is denied the chance to make the touch
Yeah. Sounds like a decent explanation there
Provided the block player does not impede on the defender from making the touch on the ball player, it is play on. If the block player prevents defender from making the touch, then penalty against the attacking team.
Makes sense to me
Isn’t the key the line being run by the dummy runner? If they cross in front of the ball carrier it’s a potential obstruction but if it’s in the back then no problem.
Normally yes. Especially in Rugby Union/League. But this is I guess just mutually agreed to be play on
If it happened mid-field or rucking off the line it would be penalised ... so I think it shouldn't be allowed to remove the pressure off referees ..
Or do you think it should be allowed on all parts of the field? Agree it should be consistent
@@touch.screen I think it would be more difficult to police mid-field where defenders are coming forward faster ... I'm mainly against it because I'm horrible at defending it 🙂
Im old school, that's a sheppard all day 🤔
My dad would agree with that
No defender is impeded. The closest is 7m away. You can run behind your own players all day along as no defender is denied the chance to make a touch.
If this play was made illegal, then that logic should also apply to any passive.
@MrLunchbox80 I just think the sheppard rule provides a clear and straightforward framework for referees to make objective calls. This introduces ambiguity and subjectivity into officiating decisions. Next minute, defenders will be hitting the lead runner and diving, then claiming obstruction. Atleast the sheppard rule somewhat safeguards the sports value of fair play and ensures clear and consistent refereeing.
The next defender is 7m away. For me play on.
I referee a lot and as far as I’m concerned the examples you showed there is certainly no obstruction. If the player interferes with the saving mid then it’s a penalty but otherwise I’m fine with that move.
Yeah that makes sense
Shepherd, and it's just such a cheap play. There's so many other plays to run and the offensive team should pretty much score everytime without needing to run so a cheap play.
It is very difficult to defend