When I started growing a garden about 10 years ago, I was always growing indeterminate here in Alabama. I always wondered why it seemed I never had a good harvest. It wasn't until I saw several of the videos you put out for Hoss tools about tomatoes and how to grow determinate tomatoes here in the south. I switched things up about 2 years ago, and I've had much better success. I grow indeterminate every year, for fun... not really for production, BUT, I grow determinate disease resistant varieties for my production. I'm a much happier gardener now! Thank you for really explaining the "scientific" stuff about gardening. It is very easy to understand and you talk in a way that the average gardener can figure it out.
I just love your down-to-earth way of speaking! Thank you for sharing your failure as well as success! It makes us feel we aren't as stupid and pathetic as gardeners as we feel sometimes! ❤
Seems like everyone I know is under the assumption that the heirlooms have better disease resistance and are easier and better to grow. I grow 1/3 each heirloom, open pollinated, hybrids. You're a wealth of wisdom, Travis.
Our Texas weather was the same this year. Our May weather got hotter faster than in years past, and started hot til July, to the point that we didn’t get many tomatoes at all. But I kept watering and letting them grow, and now, in October, my tomatoes bushes are ,loaded. Not sure they will hang on long enough to finish ripening.
New subscriber here.. Your kids are so delightful! My grandkids are in their mid 20's now. I sure miss having little ones around. I almost forgot to pay attention to the gardening tips because they stole the show! My tomatoes are burning up here in SE Texas & dying. I've never seen such sun damage this early. Thanks for the tater tips.
You're absolutely correct about the temperature in May. I'm sorry to hear about your tomato plant troubles. It's hotter than usual for this time of the year. I'm in central Florida. I'm experiencing spider mites earlier than usual. They usually don't arrive until late June through August. They're killing almost every tomato plant and eggplant that I have. I don't spray unless absolutely necessary because I have a bee hive in the tree behind my property. You can see a large crack in the tree where they go into. I have bees galore in my garden, so I don't want to kill them. I'd rather just pull up the plant and replace it. I'm glad you had such a bountiful potato harvest. My harvest was better this year than any other year. Have a great holiday weekend 🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
This has been an unusual season. I've been following info on the Grand Solar Minimum and the probability of more extremes in weather conditions going forward. Colds will become colder, hots hotter, drys drier, and storms stronger. That seems to be starting. My tomatoes are always an adventure. I grow 1 plant of 20 different varieties. Since my garden is small and everything is in containers the tomatoes end up being quite crowded together. The determinates get a cage and the indeterminates get woven onto a cattle panel trellis. I can't remember ever spraying them for anything, but I check them daily for worm damage and cut off any bad leaves. I tell them to make lots of tomatoes, and they do.
Its called Doplar radar and cell tower working with H.A.A.R.P and geoengineering weather MODIFICATION. It has been going on for decades. Back in the Vietnam era they called it cloud seeding. Today it is called CHEMTRAILS containing barium, strontium and aluminum heavy metals sprayed in our atmosphere. The radiation technology from cell towers and doplar STEER the jet streams (chemtrails) and strengthen and intensify storms OR lack there of. The grand solar crap is just that....CRAP junk that is spoon fed to people. THINK....THINK....RESEARCH.
50% of my tomatoes are doing the same thing, but we have had temps in the upper 90s and way to many days of high winds. I think it's too much stress for tomatoes.
Hey Trav. First thing Id investigate into your Tomato issue would be Tomato Leaf Curl Virus. It looks very similar to this. Another might be blocked emitters on your drip irrigation. I'm no plant doctor either so its really the blind leading the blind, but might be worth looking into. Hope its just the emitters issues. Good luck with the rest of them. Love the show.
All of my tomato plants looks exactly like this! Happened just last week also! I was thinking a possible herbicide drift damage. Check with your neighbors to see if herbicide was used recently.
Have you bought any hay, compost, or manure? David the Good has some info about persistent herbicide use passing in manure and hey. Pastureguard i think it is.
Those last 3 tomato plants in row look like they're the victims of persistent herbicides either in compost or hay/straw, but the others look like a nematode issue.
I enjoyed that, what a great potato harvest. I mostly grow disease resistant varieties of tomatoes too, I don’t have space to play with heirlooms. There is a lot of commercial tomato production around here so we have every kind of disease, even up here in Ontario! Tomatoes are super susceptible to herbicides, so I think you should at least consider the possibility that your pine straw has been in contact with a persistent herbicide at some time. Klaus
I have never grown anything but heirloom vegetables. I have only grown indeterminate tomatoes. I guess the reason I grew heirloom is in case it hits the fan and I wanted viable seeds. I have no idea why I only grew indeterminate tomatoes. Thanks to your tomato reviews last year, I planted some Better Boy indeterminates this year and some Celebrity hybrid DETERMINATES. Like yours, some of my Indeterminates are looking funny and one looks bad. My Celebrities on the other hand are looking great. I think I will be planting mainly hybrids from now on and keep some heirloom seeds in the freezer just in case👍🏻😬. Thank you for the inspiration.
Great information Sir, I just posted a few days ago I tried a gifted pack of seeds, Italian paste. Well I pulled all 5, same problem. The last 5/6 years I’ve grown hybrids / determinate in Louisiana, and received the best harvest from them.
Just fascinating to understand the different challenges in different parts of the country. Here in California we battle drought and dry heat, but it builds gradually, so our disease pressures are relatively low. It puzzled me why people would grow determinates which seemed to finish up so quickly, vs growing indeterminates which go on and on with no problems through November as long as I gave them a bit of shade cloth during our hottest days. You can grow pretty much anything here in N Cal as long as you give the plants water regularly. Feeling blessed.
My tomatoes looked like that too, until I covered them with shade cloth. Maybe you could put tall T posts on either side of your trellises and do some kind of draping with the shade cloth.
Since we moved to Virginia from NY, I have found that the heirlooms struggle in the heat and humidity of July and August, and I am trying more determinate tomatoes and growing two crops a year. The Roma VF has worked for us and this year I am also trying the Mountain Spring variety for a slicer tomato.
It seems a lot of folks are having the same tomato troubles, including me. I really think it's the heat or the UVs. We had great spring weather and suddenly the temperature shot up and this leaf curling started happening. The ones that get a bit less sun don't have the problem.
North Florida heat has been brutal. I do have some heirloom blushing. Need to really try some determinate soon. Garden and your family are looking great!
Hi Travis. I bet it was a beautiful FRIDAY morning for you and not a SATURDAY morning for this video. You DID say Saturday... Had me checking my calendar cuz I thought I slipped a day....Hahaha. All good, Sir! Thanks for all you do! Cheers. Chuck in Jensen Beach, Florida.
Sometimes we shoot these videos up to a week in advance because of the time it takes to edit and upload them. So yes, it was shot on a Saturday -- last Saturday.
The danger for new gardeners is that they will get so discouraged that they give up completely. I like the idea of heritage plants but as long as disease resistant seeds are available I will grow them. I also do some heritage plants just in case we ever have to rely on them.
On some tomatoes we're finding to use a black net sun shade over them on hot day's. And there loving life on our place so it's a good investment to have that cover I can say. In fact were able to keep salad mix going and cilantro with it that doesn't like sun.
Noticed on another channel, the guy had a board or rod at the bottom holding the twine tight and steady from top to bottom so the plants aren't pulled out of the ground when the storms and wind come along. Thanks for keeping it honest and real.
Looks like herbicide poisoning, could have been airborne or if you bought your mulch. Have had it happen to me and that's what my plants looked like. Blessings
I wish you would figure out what’s killing your tomatoes because some of mine look the exact same way. Makes no rhyme or reason. I haven’t seen it before, at least not this bad.
Mine too here in southeast Mississippi… no real Spring… extremely hot/humid suddenly and weird winds. Went from no rain to deluges. I’ve already pulled some of them as well. Also experiencing some early blight on a few heirlooms so … going to start a few more determinates for a fall crop. Thank goodness for long growing seasons. However, I feel like I’m having to learn what to do when all over again due to all the weather anomalies.
@Lapis Manalis I’m about 2 hours west of you in Middle Georgia. Where do you buy your shade cloth from ? My tomato plants are getting hammered this year
I’m in zone 9a lost all my tomato plants this year. They looked like the ones you have. Glad to know it happens to professionals also. I may try a fall crop of tomatoes, so I can have me a god ole mater sandwich.
Me too, zone 9a, fl. Engaged my back up plan for eating tomato products through the year, local restaurant supply store, #10 tin cans, re- jarring and processing. For fresh eating, local farmers market.
I'm in 9a Baton Rouge. I planted 12 Black Krim plants and only 2 aren't wilting. They are mulched with rabbit barn waste, on a drip line and fertilized as well as planted with catfish scraps after fileted. It's a struggle. Lol
As for potatoes, I planted purple majesty and didn't know they were determinate. Out of 5 seeds, I got 2 lbs but I'm trying to get them to start making eyes so I can plant them in buckets
I had a similar problem the last time I planted tomatoes and peppers. There was something eating the main stem, until it got to the middle, then stopped. One night I came out and found a snail munching away at the base. It never grew or produced after that, but just barely stayed alive.
I totally agree with hybrids vs. heirlooms. I’m in SC and I have lived the difference. I loved Jubilee and I’m trying that heirloom again. Otherwise, I’m growing hybrids. 😊
That so strange. I’m not the greatest gardener but I’ve always planted indeterminate and never had an issue that bad. I do stick with the same varieties because I’ve had such good luck with them. I hope you figure it out. I had a little issue with blossom drop last year. Never figured out the main reason but I did end up with a decent crop. Really enjoy your channel. I do learn a good bit. .
Nice potato harvest! They look real nice and I bet will be very tasty. Leek Tater soup sounds really good!. Could the drip tape be not delivering enough water to the unhappy tomato plants, also, maybe the plants sunburned, would / could a shade cloth be worth a try to those plants along with more water? Could try / test it with the 2 plants next to each other .. ya never know maybe they will turn around. Maybe undesirable nematodes or other pest attacking the roots causing havoc? I had tomato plants not happy with 107 degree heat last summer and the leaves looked like your unhappy plants. The South is hot early and the NW has been cold and rain, had one day hit 68 degrees but mostly 50 - 63. Night time temps finally in the mid to high 40’s. Is the coldest wettest spring in NW Washington since 2008. Just planted tomato and pepper plants, pole bean seeds, lemon and muncher cucumber seeds last week. Peas are just now getting growth on them that I planted from seed beginning of April and had to re plant about 1/4 of the area due to no germination which is unusual. Cool weather crops planted mid to late March took forever to germinate and start growing as well. Makes me think a lot harder about building a hoop house this year to start seeds and grow in for extended growing seasons here. Still thinking about selling my farm here and finding a farm in the south east for shorter winters and warmer weather which I think my body would greatly appreciate.
You should dig down under the tomato that you feel is dead and make sure it isn't voles or other root attacking creatures/grubs etc. If any more tomatoes bite the dust you might want to get a soil test to see if it is contaminated with the herbicide poison that is such a huge problem these days. Gardening is more mystery than we'd like to admit. Some times there is not rational reason for the problem at hand. I hope you have a bumper crop of tomatoes this year and thanks for keeping it real. BTW your boys are growing like weeds!
So far my Dwarf Tomato Project varieties are doing well. They r open pollinated so u can save seeds. But I tell people plant hybrids too because heirlooms r so fussy and if u need to preserve food, u want at least some to put up.
The problem might be in the way you have strung them up on the string. With a good blast of wind, they might be pulling away from the earth and stress out from the tension on the string. It seems that the plants to suffer are all on one end, so the problem might be localized to the one area. You might just have to figure a way for the plants to be elevated on a trellis. Good luck.
First time visiting this channel! Great content. We remember you from "Pop up Life" Really enjoyed that content which gave us great ideas, when we started out! God Bless!
New gardener here too. Tossing out ideas, I’m guessing a few drip tape emitters might be clogged. If not, second guess is low Brix level in the sap allowing for a disease to invade. Before pulling them up I’d try a foliar spray of fish emulsion and compost tea. Best of luck. Enjoy your channel a lot.
Tomatoes might have bacterial wilt disease. I have to grow maters in grow bags because of it. The disease blocks water from moving in the plant vascular system.
Southern stem blight maybe, back that straw away from the stem and look at the stem and see if it feels hallow. I keep mulch at least 6 inches away from the stem.
Been a strange season growing tomatoes for sure. I'm in VA 7a. Leaf curl and stunted growth although they look relatively healthy. But usually this time of summer I'm harvesting tomatoes, it's only now that they are setting fruit from the blooms. Hoping they hang in there until I secession plant my others. Will likely do all determinates next season.
My tomatoes I grow like you did except a double row, on the top wire/poly tube I put frost fabric as a shade cloth just to shelter them a bit during the most intense sun times and I found it helped allot. Heirloom indeterminate. Your garden as a whole is looking great 👍
I'm in south Alabama and I have the same issues with my tomatoes. I plant extra, because I know half of them probably won't make it. Brandywine are normally the first to kick the bucket.
In North Central Texas it has been brutally hot this May. Tomatoes hate heat, generally speaking. Our tomatoes have taken a hit, I blame it on the heat, very little rain and 30 mph dry, hot wind
I had trouble last year because so much sunlight block out in MO. etc...Many blooms but would not ripen even with feeding epsome salts. Finally, beginning of July I trimmed off every vine above highest bloom and every branch below lowest bloom. Boom!!! Withing 2-3 days, those puppies started turning bright red. And did not stop producing until September when I just had to stop watering. Not sure if it might help but I would mix solution of about 1 cup peroxide to one gallon bucket of water and water plants with that one day. It is great for all sorts of fungal and bacterial infections in people and plants. Then few days later, try the 1 Tbsp Epsome Salts at base of each plant before watering. Love to hear how it goes. Bless!
Your not crazy it’s hot in Connecticut too. The sun is heating up the atmosphere is deteriorating due to the earth being damaged over the last 400 years. Now we are reaping what we all have sown.
I absolutely howl laughing at the Tator Time chant Travis! Old Ty Ty looked like he was shooting 3 pointers at the beginning. I love seeing the whole family in the garden, it makes us smile. Were the diseases on the indeterminate tomatoes only?
I'm in NC and the "UV index" has been higher than usual too, allegedly. I've had one or two of most varieties bite it too this year and was curious if it had something to do with that. It's been way hotter than past Mays in my memory.
I'm in central NC, I agree. Much hotter for May, and the winds too! I've been growing for 20 years & this is the first year I've had this happening to my tomato plants. It's about drove me crazy!
@@lisapineywoods Yes, the wind has been so heavy this year too! It's beginning to look like high tunnels are the way to go, I guess.. I hope your harvests are plentiful regardless of the obstacles!
I am in Alabama and the heat and humidity will take out the older varieties. I tried growing some tomatoes from a friend in Ohio who have been growing the seed for 2 generations. They germinated great, we’re doing well until the heat and humidity got them. Blight got them and did not get a single tomato.
Great video. Sorry about the tomatoes. I share the same problem. I live about a half a mile of the coast I Alabama. My tomato crop never goes much longer and Han mid June. This year the heirloom varieties I planted have bit the dust already. I also assumed, to the heat. Thanks for giving me confirmation. Keep making informative videos.
When mine did that in North Carolina it was wilt I’ve not been able to grow tomatoes in that part of the garden ever since they do it over and over again some varieties have more resistance than others I have found
I agree with your thinking on too hot to soon there. I plant the spring time Rose, Kellogg's Breakfast, and Great White heirlooms. Were they will be out of the mid April, ( zone 9b is HOT then for heirlooms) sun by 130pm or so. I'm glad to have seen that not all you heirlooms were hit bad by the crazy heat then.
Great vid. Always go for a multi-strategy planting. I'm behind the curve, so relied on direct seeding but forgot to grow spare transplants to fill the gaps. Tomatoes don't work for me in Holland, too often the wet summers outside tests resulted in poor results. Only 6 tomatoes in the GH this year, I will transplant a couple of voluntunteers from my slow compost heap, I have no clue what will happen. It's the only fun factor in growing this year. Now with veggie prices at the grocery, I'm focussing on stuff we like to eat. Like potatoes, beans, carrots, onions, garlic, broccoli, lettuce, leaks, beets, bell peppers, cucumbers and a lot of zucchini.
I’m doing the same thing, grow a lot of what I eat most of and store, can and freeze for the winter. Drying my seasoning herbs and storing in glass containers to last the year as well. Don’t think we will see the end of inflation and rising cost of food, fuel and other essentials for quite a while yet.
Heart-breaking to watch the maters go down but you still are blessed. Have you considered the possibility of acidic soil changes with the pine mulch? Maybe some don't like that. Btw, my 2nd language is ASL. I find myself always trying to "receive" communication from your active hands. Lol.
There have been several university studies that have debunked the whole pine straw soil acidity hypothesis, so I don't think that's an issue. Glad you appreciate my hand gestures! lol
Hello from Florida 9b. So far, my Homestead tomatoes (Semi-Det.) are doing well. My Terracotta tomatoes (D) produced a lot of large tomatoes. Now I have Arkansas Travelers and 4th of July (both are Indeterminate) coming along. All of the other types I'm growing are Determinate varieties. Ace 55, Floridade, and Purple Reign are growing well. Our weather has been hot and dry. The bugs are showing up. But, this is summer gardening in Florida. :)
i don't know if this will help you but danny from deep south homestead has a video "wilted tomatoes after a rain" the tomatoes looked similar to yours. hope this helps. thank you for all your teaching.
Wow that is one really nice potato harvest you got! Thats impressive. You are making me hungry. I could slice one up right now and sprinkle some salt on it and munch away! Hard to say on those tomato plants. To me, they just look a bit heat stressed. Maybe its just hard to tell on video. But I have had way worse looking tomatoes then those guys before LOL
we are having a colder than normal spring here, I've just started hardening off my tomatoes this week..ugh. also, this year I ended up using a different potting soil to up pot and it hit my tomatoes wrong somehow, other plants are fine. Mainly the worst affected was a hybrid, Jet setter and an heirloom Polish Linguisa. I also grow both, heirloom and hybrid and recommend new gardeners start with hybrids....and in case of gardening to feed the family in an emergency...the learning curve is a b.....
I tried starting my veggie seeds this spring using homemade compost and it's worked great. I had zero issues with seedlings like I often do with store bought sterile seed starting mix.
My Cherokee purple tomatoes did the same exact thing, not all of them, maybe 1/4. Never seen anything like it, and others have told me the same. We are in mountains of NC so I thought maybe cool nights/warm days.
Also I had one row in "walls of water" that remained a constant temp, warm at night and cooler in day, they all look great... I'm thinking temp stress? Your leaves look exactly like mine on my heirloom row.
Mine look the same way. Very frustrating because we know it's not blight. It's not aphid or fly damage either. My guess is that its some sort of bacterial wilt. About to pull mine and buy some from a nursery that's already started before it gets too far into the summer.
It's probably Verticillium or Fusarium wilt. I used to go to the trouble of grafting heirlooms onto disease resistant rootstocks. Now, I plant resistant hybrids with a few heirlooms in areas where the wilts haven't showed up yet. We just had 4-5 inches of rain with water standing for more than 24 hours. I expect to have severe root diseases showing up soon.
I had the same problem on the Texas Coast Zone 9-A , the determinates all varieties are doing great and the two indeterminate that I planted are 50/50 after suffering transplant shock , I had to baby one along and it is still hanging in there while the other is flourishing and we are in a severe drought this year on the Gulf Coast of Texas !
It's great to include the little ones in the garden harvest ,,they will remember that experence, that's what parenting is about great job,, as for as the tomatoes they need some shade mine did the same thing I moved them in a shaded area , an they are potted an they recovered I'm down in South West Florida hot area
I planted Burbank russet potatoes last year (2022) and after worrying about them and watering them the greens finally went yellow and I started to dig them up. So excited was I. Fire ants had eaten every single one. Was I mad. 25 or so empty husks to show for all my concern and labor.
I agree with May being hot. I live in western AR & we have had record breaking heat. But then this week we have had record breaking cold. No wonder these plants r so confused…I know I am. I just hope it doesn’t jump up into the 100’s in June. Never know what to expect anymore????
Baltic Rose. I like how they look-I’m fond of small boilers and I expect to try that variety next season. But they all look like winners! PS: love dollar store hacks!
I have been straw bale gardening for my tomatoes. I grow mostly heirlooms in straw bales. It has really helped with disease problems. You might try that next year for some heirlooms and see if you have better results. It keeps the soil born disease at bay. Air born spores are still able to cause problems but it eliminates soil born problems.
I'm also using the string trellis method for the first time this year and I had the same symptoms on 3 of my plants ( Red Snapper and Rutgers). Symptoms seemed to appear overnight. I was ready to pull them and as a last ditch effort I sprayed them with aspirin and baking soda and they thankfully all recovered.
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I love getting the kids involved you are raising them right!
Thanks!
I love it because you show the success's and the failures. We all know that's part of gardening.
Oh, and thanks for the potato advice. I have to dig mine this weekend.
THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH FOR SHARING YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND SHARING SUCH ENCOURAGING WORDS TO US NEW GARDENERS!!🙏🙏🙏🙏💜💯💯💯
Thanks so much for watching Lorrie!
When I started growing a garden about 10 years ago, I was always growing indeterminate here in Alabama. I always wondered why it seemed I never had a good harvest. It wasn't until I saw several of the videos you put out for Hoss tools about tomatoes and how to grow determinate tomatoes here in the south. I switched things up about 2 years ago, and I've had much better success. I grow indeterminate every year, for fun... not really for production, BUT, I grow determinate disease resistant varieties for my production. I'm a much happier gardener now! Thank you for really explaining the "scientific" stuff about gardening. It is very easy to understand and you talk in a way that the average gardener can figure it out.
Thanks Shannon. Good to hear the determinates are working well for you.
I just love your down-to-earth way of speaking! Thank you for sharing your failure as well as success!
It makes us feel we aren't as stupid and pathetic as gardeners as we feel sometimes! ❤
I’m in Alabama as well. What determinate varieties are you growing that do well?
Seems like everyone I know is under the assumption that the heirlooms have better disease resistance and are easier and better to grow. I grow 1/3 each heirloom, open pollinated, hybrids. You're a wealth of wisdom, Travis.
Thanks Eunice!
I had the exact same thing with my tomatoes this year. Never saw it before. This made me feel better!
Our Texas weather was the same this year. Our May weather got hotter faster than in years past, and started hot til July, to the point that we didn’t get many tomatoes at all. But I kept watering and letting them grow, and now, in October, my tomatoes bushes are ,loaded. Not sure they will hang on long enough to finish ripening.
Aww 5:42 ☺️
Such great info. Thanks.
"It's tater time!" You guys are the cutest and I LOVE your traditions. Thanks for making me smile.
Our pleasure!
New subscriber here.. Your kids are so delightful! My grandkids are in their mid 20's now. I sure miss having little ones around. I almost forgot to pay attention to the gardening tips because they stole the show! My tomatoes are burning up here in SE Texas & dying. I've never seen such sun damage this early. Thanks for the tater tips.
Welcome to the channel!
You're absolutely correct about the temperature in May. I'm sorry to hear about your tomato plant troubles. It's hotter than usual for this time of the year. I'm in central Florida. I'm experiencing spider mites earlier than usual. They usually don't arrive until late June through August. They're killing almost every tomato plant and eggplant that I have. I don't spray unless absolutely necessary because I have a bee hive in the tree behind my property. You can see a large crack in the tree where they go into. I have bees galore in my garden, so I don't want to kill them. I'd rather just pull up the plant and replace it.
I'm glad you had such a bountiful potato harvest. My harvest was better this year than any other year. Have a great holiday weekend 🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
This has been an unusual season. I've been following info on the Grand Solar Minimum and the probability of more extremes in weather conditions going forward. Colds will become colder, hots hotter, drys drier, and storms stronger. That seems to be starting.
My tomatoes are always an adventure. I grow 1 plant of 20 different varieties. Since my garden is small and everything is in containers the tomatoes end up being quite crowded together. The determinates get a cage and the indeterminates get woven onto a cattle panel trellis. I can't remember ever spraying them for anything, but I check them daily for worm damage and cut off any bad leaves. I tell them to make lots of tomatoes, and they do.
Its called Doplar radar and cell tower working with H.A.A.R.P and geoengineering weather MODIFICATION. It has been going on for decades. Back in the Vietnam era they called it cloud seeding. Today it is called CHEMTRAILS containing barium, strontium and aluminum heavy metals sprayed in our atmosphere. The radiation technology from cell towers and doplar STEER the jet streams (chemtrails) and strengthen and intensify storms OR lack there of. The grand solar crap is just that....CRAP junk that is spoon fed to people. THINK....THINK....RESEARCH.
50% of my tomatoes are doing the same thing, but we have had temps in the upper 90s and way to many days of high winds. I think it's too much stress for tomatoes.
For sure mine outside are burning up. Greenhouse toms under shade cloth are thriving.
Taters and Maters!! You’re in the south! So many don’t understand our language! Love it and found your channel today!
Glad you found us!
Time starts when the plant emerges.
Hey Trav. First thing Id investigate into your Tomato issue would be Tomato Leaf Curl Virus. It looks very similar to this. Another might be blocked emitters on your drip irrigation. I'm no plant doctor either so its really the blind leading the blind, but might be worth looking into. Hope its just the emitters issues. Good luck with the rest of them. Love the show.
I was noticing leaf curl too. I didn't know there is actually a disease. I was going to recommend shade cloth, if you think it's worth the effort.
I lost a bunch from that one year,right after an aphid infestation.
All of my tomato plants looks exactly like this! Happened just last week also! I was thinking a possible herbicide drift damage. Check with your neighbors to see if herbicide was used recently.
The farmers around here haven't started spraying yet.
Have you bought any hay, compost, or manure? David the Good has some info about persistent herbicide use passing in manure and hey. Pastureguard i think it is.
@@jadedengineer I've heard this has happened to a lot of folks. I make my own compost.
@@jadedengineerGrazon will do that. Pastureguard is supposed to not have residual but 🤷🏼♀️
Gonna be 103 in the Texas Panhandle with winds of 25 all day and gusts up to 40. Our weather has changed over the years.
Looks great brother Travis!
Oh wow!
@@LazyDogFarm Just praying for rain!
Those last 3 tomato plants in row look like they're the victims of persistent herbicides either in compost or hay/straw, but the others look like a nematode issue.
We are seeing some of the same issues on our indeterminates in northern Ark. Thanks for the helpful info!
I enjoyed that, what a great potato harvest. I mostly grow disease resistant varieties of tomatoes too, I don’t have space to play with heirlooms. There is a lot of commercial tomato production around here so we have every kind of disease, even up here in Ontario! Tomatoes are super susceptible to herbicides, so I think you should at least consider the possibility that your pine straw has been in contact with a persistent herbicide at some time.
Klaus
I have never grown anything but heirloom vegetables. I have only grown indeterminate tomatoes. I guess the reason I grew heirloom is in case it hits the fan and I wanted viable seeds. I have no idea why I only grew indeterminate tomatoes. Thanks to your tomato reviews last year, I planted some Better Boy indeterminates this year and some Celebrity hybrid DETERMINATES. Like yours, some of my Indeterminates are looking funny and one looks bad. My Celebrities on the other hand are looking great. I think I will be planting mainly hybrids from now on and keep some heirloom seeds in the freezer just in case👍🏻😬. Thank you for the inspiration.
Great information Sir, I just posted a few days ago I tried a gifted pack of seeds, Italian paste. Well I pulled all 5, same problem. The last 5/6 years I’ve grown hybrids / determinate in Louisiana, and received the best harvest from them.
Just fascinating to understand the different challenges in different parts of the country. Here in California we battle drought and dry heat, but it builds gradually, so our disease pressures are relatively low. It puzzled me why people would grow determinates which seemed to finish up so quickly, vs growing indeterminates which go on and on with no problems through November as long as I gave them a bit of shade cloth during our hottest days. You can grow pretty much anything here in N Cal as long as you give the plants water regularly. Feeling blessed.
There are advantages and disadvantages to every growing region. Enjoy your long tomato season!
Im having great success with better boys here in Florida...Celebration is doing great too!
My tomatoes looked like that too, until I covered them with shade cloth. Maybe you could put tall T posts on either side of your trellises and do some kind of draping with the shade cloth.
I think that would work, just need to figure out how to build it.
I like this idea!
Since we moved to Virginia from NY, I have found that the heirlooms struggle in the heat and humidity of July and August, and I am trying more determinate tomatoes and growing two crops a year. The Roma VF has worked for us and this year I am also trying the Mountain Spring variety for a slicer tomato.
It seems a lot of folks are having the same tomato troubles, including me. I really think it's the heat or the UVs. We had great spring weather and suddenly the temperature shot up and this leaf curling started happening. The ones that get a bit less sun don't have the problem.
I agree. Hotter than normal seems to be the most plausible explanation for us.
North Florida heat has been brutal. I do have some heirloom blushing. Need to really try some determinate soon. Garden and your family are looking great!
Hi Travis. I bet it was a beautiful FRIDAY morning for you and not a SATURDAY morning for this video. You DID say Saturday... Had me checking my calendar cuz I thought I slipped a day....Hahaha. All good, Sir! Thanks for all you do! Cheers. Chuck in Jensen Beach, Florida.
Sometimes we shoot these videos up to a week in advance because of the time it takes to edit and upload them. So yes, it was shot on a Saturday -- last Saturday.
The danger for new gardeners is that they will get so discouraged that they give up completely. I like the idea of heritage plants but as long as disease resistant seeds are available I will grow them. I also do some heritage plants just in case we ever have to rely on them.
Well said!
I think I'm gonna give up continuously because of so many issues
I grow my trusty hybrids every year as well as heirloom. I have better years when the weather is mostly hot and dry much of the summer.
Weathers been crazy everywhere. Had a heck of a time getting ours to germinate, had to replant some even. Ours just went in in Missouri.
On some tomatoes we're finding to use a black net sun shade over them on hot day's. And there loving life on our place so it's a good investment to have that cover I can say. In fact were able to keep salad mix going and cilantro with it that doesn't like sun.
Noticed on another channel, the guy had a board or rod at the bottom holding the twine tight and steady from top to bottom so the plants aren't pulled out of the ground when the storms and wind come along. Thanks for keeping it honest and real.
Looks like herbicide poisoning, could have been airborne or if you bought your mulch. Have had it happen to me and that's what my plants looked like. Blessings
I thought this
I wish you would figure out what’s killing your tomatoes because some of mine look the exact same way. Makes no rhyme or reason.
I haven’t seen it before, at least not this bad.
We'll let you know if we're able to crack the riddle.
Are you also using hay/straw/manure/compost? Then you probably have persistent herbicides too.
Mine too here in southeast Mississippi… no real Spring… extremely hot/humid suddenly and weird winds. Went from no rain to deluges. I’ve already pulled some of them as well. Also experiencing some early blight on a few heirlooms so … going to start a few more determinates for a fall crop. Thank goodness for long growing seasons. However, I feel like I’m having to learn what to do when all over again due to all the weather anomalies.
@Lapis Manalis I’m about 2 hours west of you in Middle Georgia. Where do you buy your shade cloth from ? My tomato plants are getting hammered this year
Too hot... Try spacing them closer and adding a shader... I'm having the same problem with the heat. Indirect sunlight helps. 👍
Great update. Appreciate you keep it real & show success and losses. I am just getting my beds planted.
Thanks Kittie! Hope you have a great garden this year!
I’m in zone 9a lost all my tomato plants this year. They looked like the ones you have. Glad to know it happens to professionals also. I may try a fall crop of tomatoes, so I can have me a god ole mater sandwich.
Me too, zone 9a, fl. Engaged my back up plan for eating tomato products through the year, local restaurant supply store, #10 tin cans, re- jarring and processing. For fresh eating, local farmers market.
I might try some fall ones this year too.
I'm in 9a Baton Rouge. I planted 12 Black Krim plants and only 2 aren't wilting. They are mulched with rabbit barn waste, on a drip line and fertilized as well as planted with catfish scraps after fileted. It's a struggle. Lol
As for potatoes, I planted purple majesty and didn't know they were determinate. Out of 5 seeds, I got 2 lbs but I'm trying to get them to start making eyes so I can plant them in buckets
I had a similar problem the last time I planted tomatoes and peppers. There was something eating the main stem, until it got to the middle, then stopped. One night I came out and found a snail munching away at the base. It never grew or produced after that, but just barely stayed alive.
Sweet!!! It’s so much easier doing that with the family! And talk ‘bout family time! Thanks for letting us watch.
Thanks for joining us!
This very same thing is happening to mine here in Texas. I thought it was something I was doing wrong. Thanks for sharing that it's not just me.
Same here. Just 1 or 2 of mine did the same. I thought I was just doing something wrong.
Seems like it's happening to quite a few of us ...
I totally agree with hybrids vs. heirlooms. I’m in SC and I have lived the difference. I loved Jubilee and I’m trying that heirloom again. Otherwise, I’m growing hybrids. 😊
That so strange. I’m not the greatest gardener but I’ve always planted indeterminate and never had an issue that bad. I do stick with the same varieties because I’ve had such good luck with them. I hope you figure it out. I had a little issue with blossom drop last year. Never figured out the main reason but I did end up with a decent crop. Really enjoy your channel. I do learn a good bit. .
Nice potato harvest! They look real nice and I bet will be very tasty. Leek Tater soup sounds really good!. Could the drip tape be not delivering enough water to the unhappy tomato plants, also, maybe the plants sunburned, would / could a shade cloth be worth a try to those plants along with more water? Could try / test it with the 2 plants next to each other .. ya never know maybe they will turn around. Maybe undesirable nematodes or other pest attacking the roots causing havoc?
I had tomato plants not happy with 107 degree heat last summer and the leaves looked like your unhappy plants.
The South is hot early and the NW has been cold and rain, had one day hit 68 degrees but mostly 50 - 63. Night time temps finally in the mid to high 40’s. Is the coldest wettest spring in NW Washington since 2008. Just planted tomato and pepper plants, pole bean seeds, lemon and muncher cucumber seeds last week. Peas are just now getting growth on them that I planted from seed beginning of April and had to re plant about 1/4 of the area due to no germination which is unusual. Cool weather crops planted mid to late March took forever to germinate and start growing as well. Makes me think a lot harder about building a hoop house this year to start seeds and grow in for extended growing seasons here. Still thinking about selling my farm here and finding a farm in the south east for shorter winters and warmer weather which I think my body would greatly appreciate.
You should dig down under the tomato that you feel is dead and make sure it isn't voles or other root attacking creatures/grubs etc. If any more tomatoes bite the dust you might want to get a soil test to see if it is contaminated with the herbicide poison that is such a huge problem these days. Gardening is more mystery than we'd like to admit. Some times there is not rational reason for the problem at hand. I hope you have a bumper crop of tomatoes this year and thanks for keeping it real. BTW your boys are growing like weeds!
Thanks Renee! Fortunately, we haven't lost any more plants. Seems like those were just weak links.
So far my Dwarf Tomato Project varieties are doing well. They r open pollinated so u can save seeds. But I tell people plant hybrids too because heirlooms r so fussy and if u need to preserve food, u want at least some to put up.
Good plan! Plant hybrid if you want to can!
The problem might be in the way you have strung them up on the string. With a good blast of wind, they might be pulling away from the earth and stress out from the tension on the string. It seems that the plants to suffer are all on one end, so the problem might be localized to the one area. You might just have to figure a way for the plants to be elevated on a trellis. Good luck.
First time visiting this channel! Great content. We remember you from "Pop up Life" Really enjoyed that content which gave us great ideas, when we started out! God Bless!
Welcome Steve! We still go pop-up camping a lot, but put all our focus on this channel now as far as the videos go.
I'm in coastal NC and we've experienced very hot temps and very dry.
Haven't made it into the house..
Love it..
Love what i call my garden
🍬 🍫 🍭 🍬 candy.
Travis, hope you make a follow up video on which varieties performed best - thanks
Will do!
I’m South GA. I planted 42 Determinate Hybrids (Red Snapper & Red Bounty), and 13 Indeterminates (Mortgage Lifter, Pink Brandywine, Cherokee Purple, Lillian’s Yellow, Early Girl, Giant Crimson)
New gardener here too. Tossing out ideas, I’m guessing a few drip tape emitters might be clogged. If not, second guess is low Brix level in the sap allowing for a disease to invade. Before pulling them up I’d try a foliar spray of fish emulsion and compost tea. Best of luck. Enjoy your channel a lot.
Thanks Mary. I checked the drip emitters and they’re good. I have bee foliar spraying some, but gave them another shot a few days ago.
Tomatoes might have bacterial wilt disease. I have to grow maters in grow bags because of it. The disease blocks water from moving in the plant vascular system.
Parts of Texas have been over 100+,my tomatoes are doing the same thing.
Thanks for being real
Thanks for joining us Steevo!
Hey Travis I planted some one year but they gaulded because of heat and humidity. I never planted them again. They don't like humidity and heat.
Southern stem blight maybe, back that straw away from the stem and look at the stem and see if it feels hallow. I keep mulch at least 6 inches away from the stem.
I'll dig around and see what I can find.
You need to talk to roots and refuge on their channel Jess her tomatoes look just like yours I wonder if y'all got the seed from the same place
Been a strange season growing tomatoes for sure. I'm in VA 7a. Leaf curl and stunted growth although they look relatively healthy. But usually this time of summer I'm harvesting tomatoes, it's only now that they are setting fruit from the blooms. Hoping they hang in there until I secession plant my others. Will likely do all determinates next season.
My tomatoes I grow like you did except a double row, on the top wire/poly tube I put frost fabric as a shade cloth just to shelter them a bit during the most intense sun times and I found it helped allot. Heirloom indeterminate. Your garden as a whole is looking great 👍
I'm in south Alabama and I have the same issues with my tomatoes. I plant extra, because I know half of them probably won't make it. Brandywine are normally the first to kick the bucket.
I also use a lot of my beefsteak tomatoes for fried green tomatoes, because if the humidity and heat don't take them out the tropical storms will.
I grew Brandywine one year and wasn't super impressed with its hardiness down here. Haven't grown it since.
Thanks! Love the channel!! Binge watching!! Love the content!! ❤
In North Central Texas it has been brutally hot this May. Tomatoes hate heat, generally speaking. Our tomatoes have taken a hit, I blame it on the heat, very little rain and 30 mph dry, hot wind
I had trouble last year because so much sunlight block out in MO. etc...Many blooms but would not ripen even with feeding epsome salts. Finally, beginning of July I trimmed off every vine above highest bloom and every branch below lowest bloom. Boom!!! Withing 2-3 days, those puppies started turning bright red. And did not stop producing until September when I just had to stop watering. Not sure if it might help but I would mix solution of about 1 cup peroxide to one gallon bucket of water and water plants with that one day. It is great for all sorts of fungal and bacterial infections in people and plants. Then few days later, try the 1 Tbsp Epsome Salts at base of each plant before watering. Love to hear how it goes. Bless!
Your not crazy it’s hot in Connecticut too. The sun is heating up the atmosphere is deteriorating due to the earth being damaged over the last 400 years. Now we are reaping what we all have sown.
I absolutely howl laughing at the Tator Time chant Travis! Old Ty Ty looked like he was shooting 3 pointers at the beginning. I love seeing the whole family in the garden, it makes us smile. Were the diseases on the indeterminate tomatoes only?
Yes -- only on the indeterminates.
I'm in NC and the "UV index" has been higher than usual too, allegedly. I've had one or two of most varieties bite it too this year and was curious if it had something to do with that. It's been way hotter than past Mays in my memory.
I'm in central NC, I agree. Much hotter for May, and the winds too! I've been growing for 20 years & this is the first year I've had this happening to my tomato plants. It's about drove me crazy!
@@lisapineywoods Yes, the wind has been so heavy this year too! It's beginning to look like high tunnels are the way to go, I guess.. I hope your harvests are plentiful regardless of the obstacles!
I am in Alabama and the heat and humidity will take out the older varieties. I tried growing some tomatoes from a friend in Ohio who have been growing the seed for 2 generations. They germinated great, we’re doing well until the heat and humidity got them. Blight got them and did not get a single tomato.
That stinks, but I’m not surprised.
My tomatoes have took a hit to .We been having lots of rain then the 90's next day sure not good on them.
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Sorry to see you’re having issues with those heirloom maters. Mine are just going in the ground today up here in 4b.
Great video. Sorry about the tomatoes. I share the same problem. I live about a half a mile of the coast I Alabama. My tomato crop never goes much longer and Han mid June. This year the heirloom varieties I planted have bit the dust already. I also assumed, to the heat. Thanks for giving me confirmation.
Keep making informative videos.
Sorry to hear that Roger, but thanks for sharing.
When mine did that in North Carolina it was wilt I’ve not been able to grow tomatoes in that part of the garden ever since they do it over and over again some varieties have more resistance than others I have found
I agree with your thinking on too hot to soon there.
I plant the spring time Rose, Kellogg's Breakfast, and Great White
heirlooms. Were they will be out of the mid April,
( zone 9b is HOT then for heirlooms) sun by 130pm or so.
I'm glad to have seen that not all you heirlooms
were hit bad by the crazy heat then.
Yeah thankfully a few plants per variety seemed to have a little more vigor.
Great vid. Always go for a multi-strategy planting. I'm behind the curve, so relied on direct seeding but forgot to grow spare transplants to fill the gaps. Tomatoes don't work for me in Holland, too often the wet summers outside tests resulted in poor results. Only 6 tomatoes in the GH this year, I will transplant a couple of voluntunteers from my slow compost heap, I have no clue what will happen. It's the only fun factor in growing this year. Now with veggie prices at the grocery, I'm focussing on stuff we like to eat. Like potatoes, beans, carrots, onions, garlic, broccoli, lettuce, leaks, beets, bell peppers, cucumbers and a lot of zucchini.
Good point about focusing on the easy-to-grow staples with the rising costs of food.
You named almost exactly what i am also growing trying to save from grocery store purchases. Now i need chickens.
I’m doing the same thing, grow a lot of what I eat most of and store, can and freeze for the winter. Drying my seasoning herbs and storing in glass containers to last the year as well. Don’t think we will see the end of inflation and rising cost of food, fuel and other essentials for quite a while yet.
Travis I always have issues with everything I grow!
Heart-breaking to watch the maters go down but you still are blessed. Have you considered the possibility of acidic soil changes with the pine mulch? Maybe some don't like that.
Btw, my 2nd language is ASL. I find myself always trying to "receive" communication from your active hands. Lol.
There have been several university studies that have debunked the whole pine straw soil acidity hypothesis, so I don't think that's an issue. Glad you appreciate my hand gestures! lol
@@LazyDogFarm I didnt know that. I guess it explains why they dont help my blueberries much.
In the Houston area we're having the HOTTEST May since the 1880's. So yeah, it's a real thing, this May is hot!!!! Not like last year, cool and rainy!
Hello from Florida 9b. So far, my Homestead tomatoes (Semi-Det.) are doing well. My Terracotta tomatoes (D) produced a lot of large tomatoes. Now I have Arkansas Travelers and 4th of July (both are Indeterminate) coming along. All of the other types I'm growing are Determinate varieties. Ace 55, Floridade, and Purple Reign are growing well. Our weather has been hot and dry. The bugs are showing up. But, this is summer gardening in Florida. :)
Great seeing the little ones helping out. Little man in the orange shirt is going to take over your channel. 😂 He's camera ready. 😂
i don't know if this will help you but danny from deep south homestead has a video "wilted tomatoes after a rain" the tomatoes looked similar to yours. hope this helps. thank you for all your teaching.
Wow that is one really nice potato harvest you got! Thats impressive. You are making me hungry. I could slice one up right now and sprinkle some salt on it and munch away! Hard to say on those tomato plants. To me, they just look a bit heat stressed. Maybe its just hard to tell on video. But I have had way worse looking tomatoes then those guys before LOL
we are having a colder than normal spring here, I've just started hardening off my tomatoes this week..ugh. also, this year I ended up using a different potting soil to up pot and it hit my tomatoes wrong somehow, other plants are fine. Mainly the worst affected was a hybrid, Jet setter and an heirloom Polish Linguisa. I also grow both, heirloom and hybrid and recommend new gardeners start with hybrids....and in case of gardening to feed the family in an emergency...the learning curve is a b.....
I tried starting my veggie seeds this spring using homemade compost and it's worked great. I had zero issues with seedlings like I often do with store bought sterile seed starting mix.
I had the same problem with my maters last year. So far so good this year
My Cherokee purple tomatoes did the same exact thing, not all of them, maybe 1/4. Never seen anything like it, and others have told me the same. We are in mountains of NC so I thought maybe cool nights/warm days.
Also I had one row in "walls of water" that remained a constant temp, warm at night and cooler in day, they all look great... I'm thinking temp stress? Your leaves look exactly like mine on my heirloom row.
Mine look the same way. Very frustrating because we know it's not blight. It's not aphid or fly damage either. My guess is that its some sort of bacterial wilt. About to pull mine and buy some from a nursery that's already started before it gets too far into the summer.
It's probably Verticillium or Fusarium wilt. I used to go to the trouble of grafting heirlooms onto disease resistant rootstocks. Now, I plant resistant hybrids with a few heirlooms in areas where the wilts haven't showed up yet. We just had 4-5 inches of rain with water standing for more than 24 hours. I expect to have severe root diseases showing up soon.
I was thinking the same thing!
That'll do it!
I had the same problem on the Texas Coast Zone 9-A , the determinates all varieties are doing great and the two indeterminate that I planted are 50/50 after suffering transplant shock , I had to baby one along and it is still hanging in there while the other is flourishing and we are in a severe drought this year on the Gulf Coast of Texas !
It's great to include the little ones in the garden harvest ,,they will remember that experence, that's what parenting is about great job,, as for as the tomatoes they need some shade mine did the same thing I moved them in a shaded area , an they are potted an they recovered I'm down in South West Florida hot area
Also I second checking to see if someone close by sprayed herbicide. I had that happen a couple of years ago.
I planted Burbank russet potatoes last year (2022) and after worrying about them and watering them the greens finally went yellow and I started to dig them up. So excited was I.
Fire ants had eaten every single one. Was I mad. 25 or so empty husks to show for all my concern and labor.
I agree with May being hot. I live in western AR & we have had record breaking heat. But then this week we have had record breaking cold. No wonder these plants r so confused…I know I am. I just hope it doesn’t jump up into the 100’s in June. Never know what to expect anymore????
Southern Tennessee our tomatoes are doing the same thing.
Came in from planting and weeding exhausted, hot and sweat in my eyes. Tuned in just in time for "Tater time"! You made my day. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Baltic Rose. I like how they look-I’m fond of small boilers and I expect to try that variety next season. But they all look like winners! PS: love dollar store hacks!
I'd highly recommend giving Baltic Rose a try. It's the perfect small boiler.
@@LazyDogFarm Thanks!
I have been straw bale gardening for my tomatoes. I grow mostly heirlooms in straw bales. It has really helped with disease problems. You might try that next year for some heirlooms and see if you have better results. It keeps the soil born disease at bay. Air born spores are still able to cause problems but it eliminates soil born problems.
I'm also using the string trellis method for the first time this year and I had the same symptoms on 3 of my plants ( Red Snapper and Rutgers). Symptoms seemed to appear overnight. I was ready to pull them and as a last ditch effort I sprayed them with aspirin and baking soda and they thankfully all recovered.
Nice!