Peter Boghossian on Fighting Cowardice, Protecting Our Rights, and Saving Civilization
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- Опубликовано: 13 май 2024
- Former Portland State University professor Peter Boghossian explains how an epidemic of cowardice is threatening our civilization. Staying silent in the face of obvious falsehoods has eroded many institutions, and after enough time, could erode our freedom to think. If we want to combat the offense-obsessed critical social justice dogma that has taken over American higher education, we’re going to need a renaissance of courageous dialogue.
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Hello friends! This is a clip from my full conversation with Peter which was filmed while we were serving as judges in the Incubate Debate grand final. Be sure to check out the full conversation here. It's awesome. ruclips.net/video/p9_zQUVbwn0/видео.html
Good call gentlemen. Sheer cowardice.
Now it seems that whoever screams the loudest is right, then everyone gets louder and louder... and louder before fists start swinging. What a screwed up world.
It’s all about will and power. Reason is dead.
"Against stupidity we are defenseless. " Dietrich Bonhoeffer
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Excellent, clear definitions of where the grave problems lie! Thank you! As for the issue of losing friends (and family): if one loses friends because of difference of opinions - then they were probably not real friends, to start with... however, it still hurts!
What a stimulating conversation. I listened to all 2 hours. You guys ought to do more podcasts like these! Thank you, John!! 💚💜
It's not just cowardice, it's also apathy. I just can't fight every battle simultaneously. I have shit i have to get done in my own life and sadly i only have so much bandwidth for resistance against these lunatics.
Civilization is now at a point where the populace has so much free time, wealth, and lack of purpose that they can spend hours and hours in a virtue signal time sink. Once things fall to pieces at faster rates and in larger portions people's bandwidth will be recalibrated.
What we need is thoughtful, kind, intelligent problem solvers. There is no place for self-righteous, malicious people in leadership positions.
That should be our focus.
Focus on the positive!
How about eliminating idolatry+leaders?
People having tantrums in order to control a dominate others = Being offended
BLM 🎉
Well it seems like tantrum throwing by those who cannot reflect on the past,not repeat historical mistakes, learn from them, course correct and grow. No destroy human kind for not being perfect
The further we get from and the more we violate the Ten Commandments the deeper we fall into darkness. None of this is new!
You’ve identified the outward effects but not the heart of the problem. Read Amusing Ourselves To Death. You can’t understand what’s happening until you understand what’s beneath it. We’re regressing from a typographically based culture to a pictographically based world (from logical to emotional). Neil Postman identified what was happening and predicted what would happen 40 years ago. Reading that book is like reading the Rosette Stone for the modern era.
> We’re regressing from a typographically based culture to a pictographically based world (from logical to emotional).
I don't know what you're referring to when you say "pictographically", but if you're referring to diagrams, graphs, photos, etc., I don't see how those things are inherently bad (or 'emotional' as you said). Circuit boards, fridges, car engines, chairs, etc., all benefit from being presented with a combination of words and not-words. I'd argue that purely typographic transmission of information is ripe for abuse. How does one 'define' "democracy" with words alone without it becoming vague to the point where anyone can behave almost any way they want and call it "democracy".
Now, if "democracy" were 'defined' in a comic-book style, as a sequence of images and text describing a drawn-out process, I think that'd go a long way to help people come to agreement with respect to when to apply "democracy" to a definite behavior.
@@rabbitcreative I’m not going to write it all out; read the book - takes less than 5 hours. This isn’t a simple “one paragraph and we’re done here” issue.
Boghossianis is right, we're suffering from an epidemic of cowardice! And an example of this took place during the BLM riots when gangs of thugs would surround outdoor diners and demand that those diners say 'black lives matter'. But the cowardly thing wasn't that they said it - they were, after all, truly in danger, but that they defended those thugs later when they weren't in danger.
So, basically, it is about teaching our children good manners, teaching them that being courteous is the lubricant of society, "do unto others as you wish them to do unto you", teach and remind every generation of the virtues that have been virtues for donkeys years like honesty, generosity, charity, kindness....
Jump on it (ever so gently) when you see people taking advantage of one another, e.g. do not tolerate businesses, banks in particular, to do anything we do not want anyone to do to us.
Make anyone rituals of where we started, how wrong we havebeen at times and how to keep the good things we have gained, like the Jews do with their Passover stories; Judeo-Christian based democracies could do something similar and turn coming-of-age (e.g. driver's licence) into community events, becoming a citizen iden ditto.
You know, as time goes by my gratitude increases profoundly towards my mother, in particular, who taught me: Etiquette, i.e. Manners. How to greet elders in my family, how to eat at the dinner table, respectful posture, saying "Sir" and "Ma'am", not slouching, not imposing on others selfishly, holding the door open especially for a lady, giving up a seat on a train for an elderly person. It seems like a Dying Art! Not kidding. IMHO, elders of Society should correct younger people when the latter are being rude and discourteous, as much as some ( or many ) of the younger generations believe any criticism and correction is completely offensive and out-of-line. Well, not correcting imbalances of the young leads to social chaos and a host of problems. When elders strive to be liked rather than responsible as leaders, again, problems ensue.
I like your idea of rituals, story-telling, celebrations for rites of passage, etc. We can return to a greater sense of Community and Growth. Amen.
Accusing people of cowardice just sounds like a way to promote conflict. That solves nothing.
Instead, focus on positive solutions. Society has no use for the self-righteous, malicious mindset. We've witnessed enough history... we should know that by now.
We need to be able to name the problem in order to fix it. Cowardice is the problem. Those people need to be replaced with open minded critical thinkers
Having the confidence in yourself and your own beliefs to engage in good faith with others does not seem possible for a social movement based on intersecting victim narratives.
Boghossian, famously masculine man, who fights woke by never once mentioning it's almost entirely generated and enforced by women. This despite working in the feminist stronghold himself. Definitely the type of example the West needs. Not at all the exact reason we got here in the first place. So stunning and brave.
We've taught a new generation that the first one to act offended wins.
totally on point and we an go to further depths than this...this is not a spontaneous thing...this was planned and manufactured and is by design so why and where is the end
We have lived of off printed money for to long. Every stupid thing we do gets more printed money thrown at it in the hopes that it will eventually work.
We are open to solutions...
@@Dan0__ There is no fixing stupid. You will see this whole thing collapse, then we will start over. Just like all the other times civilizations ended.
This is just one of many symptoms of a failed society.
Since the 90s there has been an effort to drag down Americans self image thanks to people like Jerry Springer and the like. The reason, divide and conquer... get us to not trust each other.
My personal experience is that people are better than what you see on TV...
Or the comments you read on RUclips. 🙂
@@Dan0__ Exactly. Let's pretend that gold isn't the ultimate fiat currency
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You should interview John Vervaeke.
I feel very sorry for Peter. He’s smart and pathetic all at once. He makes a disparaging comment about a religion and then goes on to talk about rights. McFly: They are God~Given Rights. No wonder he’s online and has a following when he says we live in an age of stupidity.
Can't be 'god-given' as there is no god.
society is what it is today coz it was overlooked by older generation people. accept that fact n the answers to solve them just start flowing.
They are not wrong.
Oh we know, we are just waiting for the clear signs from Someone whose game this belongs to
cellphone on = brain off
Comment on the comments, my understanding of epidemiology, is us humans know very little, our education system has failed to teach us the difference between belief and knowledge. There are very few people that can embrace atheism, for most that opens the mind to the woke religions of intolerance and excommunication. I am amazed that so many woke truths are mere beliefs. Completely unexamined beliefs. Skull deep beliefs, with little reference to the real world.
If you want to see the logical conclusion of identity politics look at Northern Ireland. Identity politics has ruled here for decades and as a result the culture and every public service is permeated by cowardice and apathy. Noone wants to do the right thing because they believe it is worth it. As a result the most vulnerable in society suffer creating a worse and worse society by the year. It was getting better until the pandemic and then they all started walking backwards. Anyone who was considerate left their jobs and we're left with the bullies and cowards that support them
The problem is that Americans are no longer a serious people. We voted in a former actor in 1980 and it has been all downhill from there. We are trivial, ungrateful, and intellectually lazy. Our technologies have robbed us of being able to recognize and live in the real world. We are simply off the path. Our cleverness has been mistaken for wisdom.
Be more specific and fair. That "former actor" served as Governor of one of the largest states in the Union before becoming President. That was no joke of a job pre-presidency. Give credit where it's due, even if you didn't vote for Reagan back then. To your point, your dig right off the bat was trivial and intellectually lazy. We can agree on America being ungrateful, though, while I would still differ with you on our technologies. I spent plenty of time as a kid in front of the television soaking in pop culture AND played outside with friends for hours and hours. I'll take both FTW. Entertainment, Technology, Innovations, have been tremendous blessings, when used well, and like many, many things can be mis-used. There are ideologies at play which come from the extremes of our Politics and Religion. Basically, Americans must take responsibility for their errors, their hyper-sensitivities, their grand narcissism. From a Christian point-of-view: Everyone must look into their eye first for any plank of wood before pointing out the speck in another person's eye. Beware of rampant hypocrisy.
we voted in a hapless peanut farmer before that who understood nothing about global realities, or economics,, but yeah we can spew partisan nonsense and get nowhere, good job. Btw, clowncake, when werent they actors? or liars? lbj was hilariously over the top in racism and sending people to die, but enjoy your progressive colored glasses.
That "former president" dismantled labor unions and introduced the trickle down theory of economics that has decimated the middle class. Irregardless, introducing the notion of entertainers as leaders is now symptomatic of our abysmal culture. All the gadgetries you claim to be such tremendous blessings have simply lobotomized the populace from the genuine world. I recently sat in on a class of seventh graders giving biographical reports. Of the seven reports I heard, four of them were video game creators, one of a mass murderer, one of a dead entertainer, and one of Osama Bin Laden. As far as Americans taking responsibility for their errors, it seems highly unlikely in a culture where no one takes responsibility for just about anything, let alone is held accountable. America, which laughingly refers to itself as a "Christian Nation", slaughtered itself over slavery, committed mass genocide of the indigenous population, enables mass gun violence by policy, and dropped nuclear weapons on the Bikini Island culture as an "experiment." Being a Christian requires swimming in the deep waters. Americans, in general, dabble their toes in the shallow end. Why? Because the materialist scientific/industrial narrative they've been sold tells them to. And all at community expense.
That former actor was a successful governor of California and had executive experience for the job. Just because he was an actor previously is irrelevant as long has he has had executive experience.
What is the excuse for the non actor, career politicians that have been in office for decades and whose whole political career has produced nothing and has made an entire mess of the country?
@@chalmapatterson544 And I suppose that's my point - the American system, as it is, has left us the choice between career nincompoops and failed entertainers. And look at the results. Inexcusable wealth inequality, record homelessness rates, catastrophic gun policy, soaring mental health issues, and foreign policy written by the military/industrial complex. I guess everyone has their own measure of what success is.
I didn’t realize he was an atheist!
I think the problem is groupthink and orthodoxy policing. Framing it as a left-wing/right-wing thing misses the plot. I also believe the entire leftwing/rightwing dichotomy is a myth. It reduces people to one dimension of consideration. We are all far more complex than that and it keeps us from seeing what concerns we share.
1 Corinthians 1:20
Peter as a "jilted atheist liberal," seems deeply emotionally damaged from his rejection by his "liberal colleagues" as well as many students at the progressive left Portland State University. He continues his efforts to find a way to realize professional relevance as well as make an economic living. Wishing him well being and perhaps most importantly---achieving an increased level of respect for the valued religious beliefs of other human beings.
@johnbrown4568 - LOL! Your assertions are not merely condescending - with their sophomoric attempt at psychoanalysing - they're also patently absurd. Peter Boghossian seems to be in a very good place in his life - creating good content and clearly articulating his positions on the idiocies of the day. I suspect that were he to read your silly comment, he'd chuckle and say, "Bless you!" Here's wishing YOU well and an increased level of respect for interesting, well-informed, and honest public figures like Peter.
@@wiseonwords Wise words indeed!
@@wiseonwords Ok, you decide with your clearly implied "upper class" skills: ---> 1) ruclips.net/video/5TqTRySWRdA/видео.html
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Seems overly simplistic to me.
Such a nuanced insight
Peter does not understand that we're in this mess exactly because we were liberal to all sort of nonsense. And in the end it's not truth or rational though is what comes on top of everything, but sweet talkers like Peter who can convince you in just about anything, and people follow them because they are charismatic and offer appealing [and usually wrong] ideas, and because of the tribal authority. Now cowards are the problem. No Peter, people just feel that they are not as charismatic and persuasive as you. They know from experience that if they speak up, the only thing they will change is their own life, and it's not going to be an improvement.
Then you better structure society around men again
Do you think ontological evil exists? Is empirical speech hate speech?
Peter Boghossian went along with the covid nonsense
Do you believe in Racism?
There's way too much residual Dawkins/Hitchens rudeness in Peter. This kind of gratuitous edge will keep him in the dwindling ghetto of obnoxious anti-theists. Thankfully, James Lindsay grew out of it, and btw, Jordan Peterson never had any to begin with and is always a cut above in his discourse. 🇨🇦
I noticed that he had to get in the last jab before espousing a deep friendship.
@@susanpetropoulos1039 Exactly.
“Fighting cowardice” is such a strange phrase. How can you “fight” cowards? Cowards don’t fight. Maybe you mean “treating” cowardice? You want to instill bravery? The only way you do that is by convincing the individual that it’s “worth” facing your fears. Most PEOPLE these days don’t think the juice is worth the squeeze in general. It’s not worth it to work (wages are garbage) it’s not worth it to go to school (crushing student debt) it’s not worth it to get married (60% divorce rate) it’s not worth it to have kids (healthcare and childcare are atrociously expensive) and there’s no time off for parents to actually be with the kids they love. Bruh, wtf do you want them to do exactly? Please spell out what you’re suggesting instead of sitting there talking but, not actually saying anything. Both of you
I want to listen to him, he's really smart. But he's a party politics guy! Right winger, takes no responsibility but blames others
How is he right winger? The man is a classic liberal. Just because he has some common ground with those who would normally disagree with him doesn't make him right wing. Such a intellectually lazy comment.
I’ve had dinner with Peter 3 times. I’m a conservative and Peter is far from that. He’s more of a classical liberal. In Portland anything not aligned with the far left is considered right.
Have you forgotten how this all started. Children were being killed in schools, malls, in Cslifornia women were being killed by entitled males who shot women in politics, for not having a woman they figured they deserved. Do you forget about the children being shot?
No all of this began with making it socially acceptable to hate men.
And all of that came only after women were allowed to vote
We live in a broken world that's not fixable.
Biblically, this is prophesied, but we've done our best to remove God from our lives.
There's only one answer and its not what "scientists" or philosophers say. It's Christ and a return to faith.
Laugh it off if you're too smart for faith, but just what if this turns out to be right?
The simple problem with the human condition is free willed non pacifists. So simple.❤🎉🎉