The most unusual album in Mayhem discography, it is progressive, experimental and of course, black metal, Maniac was very good on vocals, he sang in varied vocals that all fits very well to the music, the album is interesting, some of the lyrics were influenced by the great philosopher Friedrich Nietzche, this is by far my favorite album by Mayhem.
I just got to know them (being no black metal fan AT ALL), and the jour🎉ney keeps getting better with each album I come across. On to this one, I loved in Chimera how maniac let the instrumentals breathe since mostly I always get tired of extreme metal vocals quickly whilst loving the rest a lot lot lot...
It is sad that this ablums initiative was so bad meet by the black metal community back when it was released, I heard many people say "now mayhem is good again3 when chimera came out, what a fucking joke... Imagine black metal in 2000~ turning into something that became a force that challenged western societies in a more consistent way than scaring old ladies, killing gays and burning churches....
saw mayhem with cannibal corpse last weekend, been jaming chimera for my first album listen thru, jammed their first and now im on this one. i thought the guitar on chimera was so different from what im used to. 2 minutes into this one and im excited
SETLIST: 00:00 - A Grand Declaration Of War 04:15 - In The Lies Where Upon You Lay 10:15 - A Time To Die 12:05 - View From Nihil; Pt 1 15:08 - View From Nihil; Pt 2 16:25 - A Bloodsword and A Colder Sun, Pt 1 17:00 - A Bloodsword And A Colder Sun, Pt 2 21:28 - Crystalized Pain in Destruction 25:37 - Completion In Science Of Agony, Pt 1 35:23 - To Daimonion 38:52 - Untitled I 43:07 - Untitled II 43:55 - Completion In Science Of Agony, Pt 2
They definitely have a thicker, punchier sound in this mix. The original mix sounded like it was recorded on a cheap electric kit, with the most plastic sounding samples they could pick.
@@livingbeing1113 I like the original mix too and I get that it was intended to have super sterile production (such was an idiosyncrasy indicative of early 2000's metal, likely as a counteraction to the more organic and raw sound of 90's metal), I just dig the more chunky and meaty sound of the drums in this mix more is all.
I dont think people realize how influential this album was. Musically it is very similar to modern dissonant black metal and lyrically it was a very big shift from satanic and shock lyrics to more mature subjects and themes like we see today in many black metal bands, both bigger and smaller names. Hail Mayhem!
Actually this had been done a LOT at the time. It wasn't that influential, it was just Mayhem's first attempt at something different. Silencer and Shining were around at this time lol
I really love this album! especially, with that remaster they've done. I really love Blasphemer's riffs and Maniac vocals. Great album.
5 лет назад+51
38:52 Mayhem: "Oh man we finished one of the best songs we have ever recorded, Necrobutcher, you hit "on" in the control room, right?" Necrobutcher: "Ummmm....."
@Vlad pandur Maniacs vocals tended to remind me of the Warner bros. Tasmanian devil cartoon character. Hard to get out of your head once you make the connection! xD
I remember when this came out, everybody hated it, back then it was too experimental. Fast Forward to 2018 and I see a lot of people saying that this album is a gem... :))
It still sucks in my opinion haha and I'm all for Avant-Garde, experimental shit, Ulcerate, DeathSpell Omega, Blut Aus Nord, etc, but this is just boring af.
hell of a great album, along with the dom sathanas album.
6 лет назад+22
Production then was shit, too much plastic. Maybe also a bit too avantgarde for Mayhem's fans, which can be quite conservative. With this remaster , I am starting to warm up to this album though
I bought the original as a 15 year old nu-metal fan in 2000 and it warped my mind. I'm a black metal aficionado to this day. The album was very eccentric but quite brilliant.
After listening closely to this, two things stick out; The bass guitar is heavily distorted, as it's supposed to be but actually wasn't in the original mix. The drums aren't triggered anymore, meaning they actually sound natural and somewhat unsteady. Personally, I think it's way better, enjoyable and listenable because of this ;)
I never thought much about what his bass was "supposed to sound like" and it's hard to tell when he was in and out of the band do much (and didn't perform on ordo ad chao) but you're right, the bass in this remix sounds more like it does on Deathcrush, Necro clearly prefers to use tons of distortion on his bass. I think it sounds brilliant, I can see why people might prefer the original, it's a product of its time from the late 90s-early 2000s when a lot of bands were experimenting with industrial, when the BM production in general started to sound more sterile (even in darkthrone's stuff), so in a way you could argue it was meant to sound sterile and lifeless at the time, but I love what they've done with this. Both versions still have merits I guess.
When was Necrobutcher out of the band other than a couple years in the early 90s?? As far as not playing on Ordo Ad Chao, that was because Blasphemer insisted on playing on it, which Necrobutcher wasn't happy about at all....
The Great God Pan he’s a mainstay member Atilla was out of the band longer than him. I didn’t know he didn’t play on ordo ad Chao though, still love that record. But Necrobutchers playing on Chimera is a masterclass in black metal bass that’s still undefeated today.
Only picked up on them in the Chimera album few years ago, this album is my first introduction to Mayhem almost two decades ago lol and was kinda thrown off by it (can't digest what was happening all over the place at that time) but was finally mindblown when they released the remastered version. I'm more into death metal but Rune Eriksen's guitar playing kinda influenced me somehow
I believe this one was a brave release, and on so many levels; first of all, considering the massive legacy it carried already back then; also, stylistically. It is just not what I look for in black metal, being too technical and technical-self aware and close to technical death metal, too clean and unemotional, too fractured in strucuture and self-indulgent. I believe if black metal was born and still flourishes , is also as a reaction to albums like A Grand Declaration Of War.
I don't mind the remaster, but GDOW was perfect as it was, the sterile sounds and the cold atmosphere were that way for a reason... Anyway, certainly a masterpiece and way ahead of its time, i remember back then in 2000 almost everyone didn't get it, now it seems people are starting to appreciate the album more, better late than never...
Agreed. The classics exist and were created in a certain way for a reason. This album benefits from the cold sterile sound of the original. This is a good mixing exercise to give it a full sound, but the overall effect is weaker...
Not only awesome new artwork, but a remaster that actually sounds really good (and doesn't obliterate the dynamic range)? Most unorthodox! I honestly think this cleaner sound suits the more experimental style, particularly in the electronic passages. I didn't think of this as a sooper dooper raw kvlt album, so the change is welcome.
The drumming on this album is insane and the songs are compositionally really interesting and different from Mayhem's usual straightforward bm sound. Even Maniac's vocals sound really good here honestly on par with Dead in his own right. The spoken word stuff is whatever but it gives this album a really distinct atmosphere and sound. I'd say this is the underrated hidden gem in their discography.
To be fair, Mayhem were never "straightforward" sounding, their music was always more unique compared to other BM bands, and they did things their way. And every record is different, that's why they are the kings of the genre.
One of my all time favorite albums, of any genre. Unbelievably ambitious and well thought out album. I had no idea this was just remixed :O Edit: this sounds significantly better! Especially the drums and bass. I am absolutely stoked about this
Crazy how I just kept giving this one a miss. I love how extremely discordant they became by this point. And for that Esoteric Warfare is one of my favorites, but this album is right under that one. And it's a shame I'm just now coming around to appreciate this one. Definitely a lot the spirit of Chimera and Wolf's Lair Abyss leftover they wanted to get out in this one.
I hope for European tour with Grand Declaration... will be something awesome, this masterpiece album in 2019 with Attila voice and Teloch / Charles Ghul Hedger...it will be legendary if it happens !
That way of 'talking' is so overused, though...Even Lucky Chops uses that tone, it's like 'Hear ye, hear ye!'....but yeah, that's just a bit of vocals, the rest is superb...
love how a few vsti plugins in the right hands can change this from ELITE industrial black metal to way-ahead-of-its-time progressive black metal. that itself is meta industrial cyber metal as fuk
When i listened to this i album years back i was a unable to cope with it's heavily experimental nature and that it lacked the typical blak metal "blast all the time" and super fast shredding guitar. But after listenting the Ordo Ad Chao for many times i now get this album a bit more, i think.
First actual Black Metal album I was able to locate and buy. Sometime in the early 2000s. At, "The Wall" music store in my shitty ass local mall in central Pennsylvania. Good times. Still have the case, but the actual disc has long since dissappeared.
"Grand Declaration of War" my favorite album. This version may not be so good. But probably those same people who did not like the 2000 album do not like it today.
First Mayhem I heard. I went bavk a week later and bought the live in Marsellies VHS. When I saw the pig's head, the machine gun, the razor wire....then when Maniac walked out. That was fucking it! VICTORY.
It depends on what you want from Mayhem, they're a weird band. Chimera is their best straightforward black metal album, it's solid, brutal and relentless, that said Wolf's Lair Abyss is a much better release, though it is when they started to get more technical. I wouldn't consider De Mysteriis a normal black metal album. The production is glorious like all of Pytten's work, but the vocals are weird, and almost ruin the album in some places, brilliant most of the time, you are left with the feeling though that some songs were just meant to be sung by Dead. Deathcrush is kind of crap in a lot of ways, but I've grown to love it for what it is. People who pretend it's the best Mayhem release though are tryhard hipster edgetards. I actually think Ordo Ad Chao is objectively speaking their best and most ambitious album in terms of music and composition, the production is an acquired taste but I can see what they were trying to do with it. I would say that overall, though, my favourite Mayhem releases are Wolf's Lair Abyss and De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas. Dead was great, but I think you can find better, clearer examples of his talents in the better recorded Morbid demos.
@@selurnatas2245 to me it does sound "better" in terms of what I normaly prefer an album to sound like, but the original does have that piercing clean sound that for me suits the concept... I just can't decide and totally get why they would want a rerelease...
I prefer the original because of clean sound. Suits the concept they were going for more. This sounds more like typical black metal production, which is fine, but the album loses its identity a bit.
This is very different compared to alot of Mayhem I've heard. I kinda dig this. It's a unique album as far as I know but I also am just recently getting into black metal
This album is amazing. Daemon is great but Blasphemer and Maniac were the best in my opinion. There is no better guitarist in black metal. They said it would take a while for people to get this and it's good to see people are coming around. All the best art usually takes a while to hit you.
I have the impression that, people are confusing 'Ordo Ad Chao' to this Album. This was 'policed' even in the first edition. Only then, Hellhammer, was obsessed with triggers and all the drums had them. It sounded super clean an sterile (which was perfect and super new in a Black Metal album production). But I think, at the time, this is the sound they were after. After 'Wolf's Lair Abyss', it was a big surprise to hear such a clean production. This one has a more natural production, OK, natural as to how the instruments sound after all the distortion and the such, and the reverberation this production has. Those who have listen to the original, will probably understand what I mean . Only Maniac sounds the same.
Even Maniac's mix is different... much less reverb and treble. It sounds more natural as well, although it's still layered in double takes and such. I'm loving this.
GDOW was perfect as it was, didn't need a remaster in my view, it was sterile and cold for a reason, wich worked great with the theme of the album... Hellhammer's drum sounded great in my opinion, and he's no more "obsessed" with triggers than any metal's drummers out there...
@@fistoftulkas7335 I agree. In general, Black Metal does n't need remasters. Especially when said remasters are like Covenant's 'In Times Before The Light'. Having said that, it cannot say I dislike this one, only that I could live without. Now, I am not an expert, but I think that remasters and reissues, exist due to copyright reasons. If I am not mistaken, intellectual copyrights expire after 25 years, so in order to renew them, companies reissue their products, although I hate to use the term product for books and music. As for the triggers, even the snare was triggered, which is weird to hear, even in live shows, much more in studio productions. Just my opinion though. I dislike very tightened or triggered snares. Their sound reminds me of tupperware.
I'm hearing this remaster, and honestly i think they fucked up the drums, i don't like how they sound, the sterile drumming worked wonders with Blasphemer's riffs... The cymbals sound weird and too noisy, double-bass sounds bad too, i'm disappointed, Hellhammer's drumming is the column's carrier of Mayhem's music, he knows how he has to sound, trigger or not, and i know people usually complain a lot about his drum's sound during those years of GDOW, but i as i said it was perfect for this record in my opinion...
I think maybe you're right to some extent in that they probably were trying to make this sound more consistent with Ordo Ad Chao and even Esoteric Warfare, and I do think the original album could sound better, but it's a little too different in some ways... I can forgive the minor sins for how amazing the bass sounds on this, though. Necro is the sole remaining original member at the end of the day, and it's always good to hear him shining in the mix (when he's actually on the album, seeing as their two best albums didn't feature him at all). I think maybe you're right about the drumming - I don't like excessively triggered and digital drums, but this is from around the time they were experimenting with more industrial and electronic sounds, as is evident from the Mezzerschmitt EP from around the same time, and perhaps even worse than triggered drums is trying to artificially make those kinds of drums sound more organic than they really are in post-production. I don't think it works, it just sounds muffled. I disagree about remasters - plenty of black metal benefits from it, Windir's Likferd and Emperor's Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk could both benefit from decent remixes/remasters because they're so damn compressed, Arcturus' debut album got a fantastic remaster that sounds a lot better than the original, I don't care if they "cheated" by possibly re-recording some parts (probably what Mayhem should have done here rather than processing Hellhammer's drums to sound more like Ordo Ad Chao)
It was a scattered non-cohesive album when it came out... and still is... but there’s some gem riffs, lyrics and drumming as usual and the complete remix is fantastic.
I could run seminars on the topic of Mayhem, but this is personally my favourite record of theirs and would possibly make my Top 10 records ever listened to. One of the key factors to the original record was the sound that could only be described as cold, uberhuman, hostile, one of the most convincing atmospheres ever captured on an extreme metal album. I was approaching this remix with skepticism and disapproval. I'm into a third of it now and have to say the magic is gone and replaced with something that can only be described as a lot of meat, metal and normalisation, balance. Not saying it's a bad thing, to pronounce/revisit bass lines, give them a bit of the Necro vibe, make drums sound like an actual drum kit (although it does in some passages sound out of place given the variety of music found on this gem). In the end, I'm kind of pleased to have the option to listen to both versions of the record. Whatever brought Necro and Hellhammer back to this record to remind the world of its originally misunderstood beauty, hail Mayhem!!!
same here. one of my favourite albums ever, metal or any other genre. so lame that they did this. whatever the preference is the original version sounded more menacing and full of condemnation. 20 years on and it aged amazingly, looking forward to listen to it when im 70 years old
Mayhem's magnum opus in my view. And yeah i absolutely preferred the original mix, it was brutal, sterile and cold, and all for obvious reasons considering the theme and concept. This is ok, a different take on the original, untouchable masterpiece. The Blasphemer and Maniac era was the best in my view.
I got into grand declaration when it came out, it was my 2nd black metal album, didnt know any better and its all that was available at Rasputin 22-23 years ago. Im hindsight im glad it shook out that way and i always saw black metal as a little more broad than the early 2nd wave. Probably kept me open to deathspell omega and other more complex acts that are as true and cult as early darkthrone. Lifetime of this music later and i still come back to any version of this from time to time, far from perfect but definitely a pivotal record
blasphemer guitar work by far the best guitarist they ever had and one of the top black metal guitarists ever. only guys on the same level that come to mind are ihsahn, o.claw and the guy from deathspell omega. did i miss someone?
The most avant-garde and fascinating Mayhem record. Production should be better...but it's ok. One of the best album of them. One of the best experimental extreme album ever. Nice remaster! Kicks ass!!!
@@pierpaololucchesi7167 as a core listener I find that this is a good production for Black Metal, but maybe that's the problem for you, I don't know if you find it too much "pop/mainstream" or not enough "black metal" Can you explain this to me ? (Sorry if you find me disrespectful about Black Metal, I'm not into it so maybe I am but that's not my intention)
remastered drums seem to be missing a lot of info that the original had. A lot of the intricate snare work I’m not able to hear and there is a china cymbal he used all over the original that seems to be completely missing. Anyone else notice this?
recently been getting into death metal with bands like cannibal corspe, napalm death, lowkey those bands and mayhem are on a whole ass new level, its actually fire as FUCK edit: manics voice is sexy as shit bro
I always loved this album, and the remix really does it justice. REALLY. Same thing as the Death - Human 2011 remix... so much clearer, more powerful and more organic (as a drummer, the original mix with the heavily triggered drum sound on this album bothered me SO MUCH)
Really? Now that a pleasant surprise, really. Very well produced. Although, very "clean". Well, it's always good to have both the original and newer versions, so I think I'll get nonetheless lol
The most unusual album in Mayhem discography, it is progressive, experimental and of course, black metal, Maniac was very good on vocals, he sang in varied vocals that all fits very well to the music, the album is interesting, some of the lyrics were influenced by the great philosopher Friedrich Nietzche, this is by far my favorite album by Mayhem.
I just got to know them (being no black metal fan AT ALL), and the jour🎉ney keeps getting better with each album I come across. On to this one, I loved in Chimera how maniac let the instrumentals breathe since mostly I always get tired of extreme metal vocals quickly whilst loving the rest a lot lot lot...
I like grand declaration but for me Ordo will always be mayhem at their most experimental and interesting
Very Progressive.
Me too ! I like many mayhem sounds and albums....this is for me perfect....a perfect album.....fucking brilliant....
It is sad that this ablums initiative was so bad meet by the black metal community back when it was released, I heard many people say "now mayhem is good again3 when chimera came out, what a fucking joke... Imagine black metal in 2000~ turning into something that became a force that challenged western societies in a more consistent way than scaring old ladies, killing gays and burning churches....
One of the weirdest, most unique and audacious albums metal has ever seen. Really great.
saw mayhem with cannibal corpse last weekend, been jaming chimera for my first album listen thru, jammed their first and now im on this one. i thought the guitar on chimera was so different from what im used to. 2 minutes into this one and im excited
@@TankGuitar42 Chimera is highly underrated
SETLIST:
00:00 - A Grand Declaration Of War
04:15 - In The Lies Where Upon You Lay
10:15 - A Time To Die
12:05 - View From Nihil; Pt 1
15:08 - View From Nihil; Pt 2
16:25 - A Bloodsword and A Colder Sun, Pt 1
17:00 - A Bloodsword And A Colder Sun, Pt 2
21:28 - Crystalized Pain in Destruction
25:37 - Completion In Science Of Agony, Pt 1
35:23 - To Daimonion
38:52 - Untitled I
43:07 - Untitled II
43:55 - Completion In Science Of Agony, Pt 2
It makes me happy to see this album is finally recognized as a masterpiece
just by idiots who want to shine
hellhammers contribution standalone is more or less a masterpiece by itself around 1999..
The drumming is so good in this album, original and remaster.
Hellhammer on drums is always amazing
"Original and remaster". It was a remaster not a rerecording, so it is literally the exact same drum track.
They definitely have a thicker, punchier sound in this mix. The original mix sounded like it was recorded on a cheap electric kit, with the most plastic sounding samples they could pick.
@@cbl6520 I absolutely prefer the original mix, it's how it was supposed to be, cold and sterile. The triggered kit sounds just brutal.
@@livingbeing1113 I like the original mix too and I get that it was intended to have super sterile production (such was an idiosyncrasy indicative of early 2000's metal, likely as a counteraction to the more organic and raw sound of 90's metal), I just dig the more chunky and meaty sound of the drums in this mix more is all.
I dont think people realize how influential this album was. Musically it is very similar to modern dissonant black metal and lyrically it was a very big shift from satanic and shock lyrics to more mature subjects and themes like we see today in many black metal bands, both bigger and smaller names. Hail Mayhem!
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Actually this had been done a LOT at the time. It wasn't that influential, it was just Mayhem's first attempt at something different. Silencer and Shining were around at this time lol
@@ammanus356 ok, you're wrong
its pretty satanic actually. just not in the classic "sacrifice babies in blood" - type.
@@LadyFairChildVideo None of those things are Satanic. You clearly dont know what Satanism actually is
I really love this album! especially, with that remaster they've done. I really love Blasphemer's riffs and Maniac vocals. Great album.
38:52
Mayhem: "Oh man we finished one of the best songs we have ever recorded, Necrobutcher, you hit "on" in the control room, right?"
Necrobutcher: "Ummmm....."
@Astute Cingulus FRIED
here we need the django dicaprio meme..... damn it
Atilla calls him "Necrobaaacha" haha ;)
Avant-Garde insanity.
I really like the punky feel when Maniac uses his Dead Kennedy's voice on "To Daimonion."
When listening to this album back in the day, I never realized how much Maniac's growling voice makes him sound like black metal Gollum.
That's probably because Fellowship of the Ring wasn't released at the time GDOW came out ;)
Oh yeah
I always found these vocals the hardest to replicate. He kinda sings in his throat with alot of spit.
@Vlad pandur Maniacs vocals tended to remind me of the Warner bros. Tasmanian devil cartoon character. Hard to get out of your head once you make the connection! xD
@@Wabin22 he had those vocals on the Wolfs lair abyss too, that was waay before LOTR
I'm not a trve black metal guy but I think this album was probably one of their most well written and well composed albums.
Trve Kvlt here and that’s because it is among their best.
try the ordo ad chaos album, darker, more experiemental, less triggs on the drums, attila's weeeeiiiird voice, a masterpiece
I especially love Maniac, that's why this album ! Singer and lyricist 👍
That comment is the "why" you are not a trve black metal guy. For black metal guys everything is shit except De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas.
yes, with a few exceptions, BM is linear, monotonous and basic, everything sounds the same. I really liked this production
I remember when this came out, everybody hated it, back then it was too experimental. Fast Forward to 2018 and I see a lot of people saying that this album is a gem... :))
It was simply way ahead of its time!
It still sucks in my opinion haha and I'm all for Avant-Garde, experimental shit, Ulcerate, DeathSpell Omega, Blut Aus Nord, etc, but this is just boring af.
hell of a great album, along with the dom sathanas album.
Production then was shit, too much plastic. Maybe also a bit too avantgarde for Mayhem's fans, which can be quite conservative. With this remaster , I am starting to warm up to this album though
Dont find it experimental/Just plods on.Still find it tedious today.
I bought the original as a 15 year old nu-metal fan in 2000 and it warped my mind. I'm a black metal aficionado to this day. The album was very eccentric but quite brilliant.
No you didn't but okay
@@ammanus356 do you know the guy personally to know if this is true?
@@ammanus356 lmao saw this after replying to your other comment. Are you okay there?
What was the album?
One of the best albums ever and the remaster makes it even better
After listening closely to this, two things stick out;
The bass guitar is heavily distorted, as it's supposed to be but actually wasn't in the original mix.
The drums aren't triggered anymore, meaning they actually sound natural and somewhat unsteady.
Personally, I think it's way better, enjoyable and listenable because of this ;)
I never thought much about what his bass was "supposed to sound like" and it's hard to tell when he was in and out of the band do much (and didn't perform on ordo ad chao) but you're right, the bass in this remix sounds more like it does on Deathcrush, Necro clearly prefers to use tons of distortion on his bass. I think it sounds brilliant, I can see why people might prefer the original, it's a product of its time from the late 90s-early 2000s when a lot of bands were experimenting with industrial, when the BM production in general started to sound more sterile (even in darkthrone's stuff), so in a way you could argue it was meant to sound sterile and lifeless at the time, but I love what they've done with this. Both versions still have merits I guess.
When was Necrobutcher out of the band other than a couple years in the early 90s?? As far as not playing on Ordo Ad Chao, that was because Blasphemer insisted on playing on it, which Necrobutcher wasn't happy about at all....
The Great God Pan he’s a mainstay member Atilla was out of the band longer than him. I didn’t know he didn’t play on ordo ad Chao though, still love that record. But Necrobutchers playing on Chimera is a masterclass in black metal bass that’s still undefeated today.
It was an electronic kit. It’s been sample replaced and mixed more like a real kit.
its still triggered, sound is just way better.
I have never heard a black metal so progressive and brutal, and I like both versions. Both have a good production.
I'm only probably just now understanding that this is a masterpiece.
Only picked up on them in the Chimera album few years ago, this album is my first introduction to Mayhem almost two decades ago lol and was kinda thrown off by it (can't digest what was happening all over the place at that time) but was finally mindblown when they released the remastered version. I'm more into death metal but Rune Eriksen's guitar playing kinda influenced me somehow
I believe this one was a brave release, and on so many levels; first of all, considering the massive legacy it carried already back then; also, stylistically. It is just not what I look for in black metal, being too technical and technical-self aware and close to technical death metal, too clean and unemotional, too fractured in strucuture and self-indulgent. I believe if black metal was born and still flourishes , is also as a reaction to albums like A Grand Declaration Of War.
It's Mayhem's greatest record in my view.
I don't mind the remaster, but GDOW was perfect as it was, the sterile sounds and the cold atmosphere were that way for a reason... Anyway, certainly a masterpiece and way ahead of its time, i remember back then in 2000 almost everyone didn't get it, now it seems people are starting to appreciate the album more, better late than never...
Agreed. The classics exist and were created in a certain way for a reason. This album benefits from the cold sterile sound of the original. This is a good mixing exercise to give it a full sound, but the overall effect is weaker...
Not only awesome new artwork, but a remaster that actually sounds really good (and doesn't obliterate the dynamic range)? Most unorthodox!
I honestly think this cleaner sound suits the more experimental style, particularly in the electronic passages. I didn't think of this as a sooper dooper raw kvlt album, so the change is welcome.
Was für ein grandioses Album. Meisterwerk
The drumming on this album is insane and the songs are compositionally really interesting and different from Mayhem's usual straightforward bm sound. Even Maniac's vocals sound really good here honestly on par with Dead in his own right. The spoken word stuff is whatever but it gives this album a really distinct atmosphere and sound. I'd say this is the underrated hidden gem in their discography.
To be fair, Mayhem were never "straightforward" sounding, their music was always more unique compared to other BM bands, and they did things their way. And every record is different, that's why they are the kings of the genre.
At first I didn't like it because of how avant-garde it was but it grew on me. I appreciate their desire to create something new!
Exceptional drumming on this album.
Probably my favourite drumming out of every album I have ever heard.
Hellhammer is the god of Drums himself
Yes. Hellhammer is one hell of a drummer, he has a great sense of style
"and a murder which i have never committed and will not commit, no war".
more than exceptional...
This is an absolute masterpiece
One of my all time favorite albums, of any genre. Unbelievably ambitious and well thought out album. I had no idea this was just remixed :O
Edit: this sounds significantly better! Especially the drums and bass. I am absolutely stoked about this
fantastic remastering, I'm really enjoying this album now, got my cd today \m/
These blastbeats give me relentless restless legs syndrome
Probably my favourite Mayhem album. I still cherish my white digipak from year 2000. Also my second black metal album ever bought
Yep, Wolf's Lair Abyss in black digipack and GDOW in white (with a Mayhem tattoo inside), good old days...
Crazy how I just kept giving this one a miss. I love how extremely discordant they became by this point. And for that Esoteric Warfare is one of my favorites, but this album is right under that one. And it's a shame I'm just now coming around to appreciate this one. Definitely a lot the spirit of Chimera and Wolf's Lair Abyss leftover they wanted to get out in this one.
I hope for European tour with Grand Declaration... will be something awesome, this masterpiece album in 2019 with Attila voice and Teloch / Charles Ghul Hedger...it will be legendary if it happens !
My favourite álbum of mayhem, I Like the industrial electro metal tunes of this
Progressive "Black Metal" Masterpiece! \m/
I am probably in the minority but I like this version so much better...
Just started listening.. This is Mayhem at it's BEST.. IMO
That way of 'talking' is so overused, though...Even Lucky Chops uses that tone, it's like 'Hear ye, hear ye!'....but yeah, that's just a bit of vocals, the rest is superb...
this LP was the absolute peak of mayhem..
this album is a masterpiece, thanks for the upload
everything MAYHEM puts out is black gold
love how a few vsti plugins in the right hands can change this from ELITE industrial black metal to way-ahead-of-its-time progressive black metal. that itself is meta industrial cyber metal as fuk
best Mayhem's album, IMHO
As a bassist, it's nice to finally hear it lol
you can hear it in the original too, just no distortion
Amazing, this new production only improves the listening pleasure of an already classic performance.
When i listened to this i album years back i was a unable to cope with it's heavily experimental nature and that it lacked the typical blak metal "blast all the time" and super fast shredding guitar. But after listenting the Ordo Ad Chao for many times i now get this album a bit more, i think.
Cover art is something to marvel over. Nice work Stag & Serpent.
have always loved this album, but this version is something special, sounds so alive
Oh shit! I remember listening to this album on repeat back in High School, nice to see it was remixed!
Oh yes, back when you could have an entire 10 minute track of silence on a CD and people put up with it lol
Best Mayhem album now sounds even better. Nice!
First actual Black Metal album I was able to locate and buy. Sometime in the early 2000s. At, "The Wall" music store in my shitty ass local mall in central Pennsylvania. Good times. Still have the case, but the actual disc has long since dissappeared.
"Grand Declaration of War" my favorite album. This version may not be so good. But probably those same people who did not like the 2000 album do not like it today.
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Many people hate this álbum, and by the time of its release, it was very criticized, but nowadays I have to admit it is amazing.
What a lovely Christian music!
"heaven's golden chorus sings, hell's angels flap their wings" Terrence Butler
AMEN!
The bass~~~ remaster rules!
Oh yeah. That sounds a lot better...wow.
The "bass-guy" is the reason behind all this.
The drums tho...
@@constantinea8149 Yeah, finally they sound organic and not like plastic!
First Mayhem I heard. I went bavk a week later and bought the live in Marsellies VHS.
When I saw the pig's head, the machine gun, the razor wire....then when Maniac walked out. That was fucking it! VICTORY.
Chimera is the greatest Mayhem BM album ever and Maniac is simply ahead of its time.
De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas is their best album
I'm sorry but deathcrush rapes all the other albums
@@emielregisrohellecterzieff1074 studio Tracks with dead is better
It depends on what you want from Mayhem, they're a weird band. Chimera is their best straightforward black metal album, it's solid, brutal and relentless, that said Wolf's Lair Abyss is a much better release, though it is when they started to get more technical. I wouldn't consider De Mysteriis a normal black metal album. The production is glorious like all of Pytten's work, but the vocals are weird, and almost ruin the album in some places, brilliant most of the time, you are left with the feeling though that some songs were just meant to be sung by Dead. Deathcrush is kind of crap in a lot of ways, but I've grown to love it for what it is. People who pretend it's the best Mayhem release though are tryhard hipster edgetards. I actually think Ordo Ad Chao is objectively speaking their best and most ambitious album in terms of music and composition, the production is an acquired taste but I can see what they were trying to do with it. I would say that overall, though, my favourite Mayhem releases are Wolf's Lair Abyss and De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas. Dead was great, but I think you can find better, clearer examples of his talents in the better recorded Morbid demos.
Chimera is their only forgettable album imho...
As much as I love the original, this was definitely a solid move. Sounds great.
This version obviously sounds better.
@@selurnatas2245 to me it does sound "better" in terms of what I normaly prefer an album to sound like, but the original does have that piercing clean sound that for me suits the concept... I just can't decide and totally get why they would want a rerelease...
I prefer the original because of clean sound. Suits the concept they were going for more. This sounds more like typical black metal production, which is fine, but the album loses its identity a bit.
@@MindGamingMantis i actually agree with you. I also prefer the original, but this is a nice inclusion regardless. I prefer to have both.
I really liked the guitar work on the original, sounds good here too
Most underrated album by MAYHEM! I fucking love this work by them! \m/
Man, it sounds SO much better with this kind of production. Too bad it wasn't always like this. More people probably would have liked it...
a specific, bold and wonderful album for black metal! I love Mayhem!
amazing album, ahead of its time always and forever
"leaders of men died 1st"
hail MayheM.
This is very different compared to alot of Mayhem I've heard. I kinda dig this. It's a unique album as far as I know but I also am just recently getting into black metal
After so many years, still making epic music 👍
RESPECT
This album is from 2000. The 2018 is a remaster
Excelente album
Masterpiece, awesome album!
@charlysatriani1 So... what are you doing here? Fuck off.
Hail Maniac
IMO the best mayhem album
Best Mayhem album IMO
Season of Mist you dummies, it's "Crystalized Pain in Deconstruction" not Destruction.
Fuckin retards cant read
yeah even Mayhem know Derrida
I much prefer the old original sound...
This album is amazing. Daemon is great but Blasphemer and Maniac were the best in my opinion. There is no better guitarist in black metal. They said it would take a while for people to get this and it's good to see people are coming around. All the best art usually takes a while to hit you.
daemon with maniac's vocals would be an even better album.
You're very right. St. Anger by Metallica will one day be recognized as a true masterpiece.
I usually despise remasters and redone albums.
But holy SHIT this sounds so much heavier and meaner than the original.
I have the impression that, people are confusing 'Ordo Ad Chao' to this Album. This was 'policed' even in the first edition. Only then, Hellhammer, was obsessed with triggers and all the drums had them. It sounded super clean an sterile (which was perfect and super new in a Black Metal album production). But I think, at the time, this is the sound they were after. After 'Wolf's Lair Abyss', it was a big surprise to hear such a clean production. This one has a more natural production, OK, natural as to how the instruments sound after all the distortion and the such, and the reverberation this production has. Those who have listen to the original, will probably understand what I mean . Only Maniac sounds the same.
Even Maniac's mix is different... much less reverb and treble. It sounds more natural as well, although it's still layered in double takes and such. I'm loving this.
GDOW was perfect as it was, didn't need a remaster in my view, it was sterile and cold for a reason, wich worked great with the theme of the album... Hellhammer's drum sounded great in my opinion, and he's no more "obsessed" with triggers than any metal's drummers out there...
@@fistoftulkas7335 I agree. In general, Black Metal does n't need remasters. Especially when said remasters are like Covenant's 'In Times Before The Light'. Having said that, it cannot say I dislike this one, only that I could live without.
Now, I am not an expert, but I think that remasters and reissues, exist due to copyright reasons. If I am not mistaken, intellectual copyrights expire after 25 years, so in order to renew them, companies reissue their products, although I hate to use the term product for books and music. As for the triggers, even the snare was triggered, which is weird to hear, even in live shows, much more in studio productions. Just my opinion though. I dislike very tightened or triggered snares. Their sound reminds me of tupperware.
I'm hearing this remaster, and honestly i think they fucked up the drums, i don't like how they sound, the sterile drumming worked wonders with Blasphemer's riffs...
The cymbals sound weird and too noisy, double-bass sounds bad too, i'm disappointed, Hellhammer's drumming is the column's carrier of Mayhem's music, he knows how he has to sound, trigger or not, and i know people usually complain a lot about his drum's sound during those years of GDOW, but i as i said it was perfect for this record in my opinion...
I think maybe you're right to some extent in that they probably were trying to make this sound more consistent with Ordo Ad Chao and even Esoteric Warfare, and I do think the original album could sound better, but it's a little too different in some ways... I can forgive the minor sins for how amazing the bass sounds on this, though. Necro is the sole remaining original member at the end of the day, and it's always good to hear him shining in the mix (when he's actually on the album, seeing as their two best albums didn't feature him at all). I think maybe you're right about the drumming - I don't like excessively triggered and digital drums, but this is from around the time they were experimenting with more industrial and electronic sounds, as is evident from the Mezzerschmitt EP from around the same time, and perhaps even worse than triggered drums is trying to artificially make those kinds of drums sound more organic than they really are in post-production. I don't think it works, it just sounds muffled. I disagree about remasters - plenty of black metal benefits from it, Windir's Likferd and Emperor's Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk could both benefit from decent remixes/remasters because they're so damn compressed, Arcturus' debut album got a fantastic remaster that sounds a lot better than the original, I don't care if they "cheated" by possibly re-recording some parts (probably what Mayhem should have done here rather than processing Hellhammer's drums to sound more like Ordo Ad Chao)
"i remember the future, a new begining of time"
YES
Me gusta si sos latinoamericano. ¡Excelente álbum!, saludos desde Guatemala.
They HAVE TO release this on spotify! Hail Mayhem!
I thought they did it right from the start?
It's on Spotify
Fijate que en Spotify ambos discos son del 2000
Amazing remaster!
OMS, what a great album!!!
wooooow i didn´t expect this! brilliant album
It was a scattered non-cohesive album when it came out... and still is... but there’s some gem riffs, lyrics and drumming as usual and the complete remix is fantastic.
I love this mix to be honest
Best album of brutal metal, ever
It seems to me to hear in many passages old Dead Kennedys with the voice of the great Jello Biafra! So, full punk attitude that I appreciate
You must be smoking some great dope.
@@joshuar3632 simply my opinion
Well Maniac is a big fan, listen to him cover Hellnation in the last Mayhem's release!
this actually made me enjoy the album. good job
Very good album lot of variations amazing guitar work etc, real musicians here. I like this new sound fits better than the original.
In memory of Dead and Euronimus
I could run seminars on the topic of Mayhem, but this is personally my favourite record of theirs and would possibly make my Top 10 records ever listened to. One of the key factors to the original record was the sound that could only be described as cold, uberhuman, hostile, one of the most convincing atmospheres ever captured on an extreme metal album. I was approaching this remix with skepticism and disapproval. I'm into a third of it now and have to say the magic is gone and replaced with something that can only be described as a lot of meat, metal and normalisation, balance. Not saying it's a bad thing, to pronounce/revisit bass lines, give them a bit of the Necro vibe, make drums sound like an actual drum kit (although it does in some passages sound out of place given the variety of music found on this gem). In the end, I'm kind of pleased to have the option to listen to both versions of the record. Whatever brought Necro and Hellhammer back to this record to remind the world of its originally misunderstood beauty, hail Mayhem!!!
same here. one of my favourite albums ever, metal or any other genre. so lame that they did this. whatever the preference is the original version sounded more menacing and full of condemnation. 20 years on and it aged amazingly, looking forward to listen to it when im 70 years old
Mayhem's magnum opus in my view. And yeah i absolutely preferred the original mix, it was brutal, sterile and cold, and all for obvious reasons considering the theme and concept.
This is ok, a different take on the original, untouchable masterpiece. The Blasphemer and Maniac era was the best in my view.
I got into grand declaration when it came out, it was my 2nd black metal album, didnt know any better and its all that was available at Rasputin 22-23 years ago. Im hindsight im glad it shook out that way and i always saw black metal as a little more broad than the early 2nd wave. Probably kept me open to deathspell omega and other more complex acts that are as true and cult as early darkthrone. Lifetime of this music later and i still come back to any version of this from time to time, far from perfect but definitely a pivotal record
blasphemer guitar work
by far the best guitarist they ever had and one of the top black metal guitarists ever.
only guys on the same level that come to mind are ihsahn, o.claw and the guy from deathspell omega.
did i miss someone?
Ivar Bjornsson is still tremendous, IMO..... And Abbath purely for the riff creation...
snorre
Snorre, he's very underrated
Jon, Dissection
Aldrahn, Dødheimsgard
The guy from Abigor
Chaotic and exquisite - what else you want.
Sounds strange. I like it.
Best mayhem album i think
The most avant-garde and fascinating Mayhem record. Production should be better...but it's ok. One of the best album of them. One of the best experimental extreme album ever. Nice remaster! Kicks ass!!!
It's a masterpiece without any doubt.
*A V A N T G A R D E~*
Better production?
How?
@@Sternmayer What do you mean? It's just my point of view.
@@pierpaololucchesi7167 as a core listener I find that this is a good production for Black Metal, but maybe that's the problem for you, I don't know if you find it too much "pop/mainstream" or not enough "black metal"
Can you explain this to me ?
(Sorry if you find me disrespectful about Black Metal, I'm not into it so maybe I am but that's not my intention)
remastered drums seem to be missing a lot of info that the original had. A lot of the intricate snare work I’m not able to hear and there is a china cymbal he used all over the original that seems to be completely missing. Anyone else notice this?
Yes, it's overall more organic and lots of cymbal sounds are missing, i don't know why. I prefer the original mix.
Masterpiece !!!
A few people commenting saying the bass is too loud. I think it's more or less perfect. Only thing that needs bringing up is the crash cymbals IMHO
recently been getting into death metal with bands like cannibal corspe, napalm death, lowkey those bands and mayhem are on a whole ass new level, its actually fire as FUCK edit: manics voice is sexy as shit bro
I always loved this album, and the remix really does it justice. REALLY. Same thing as the Death - Human 2011 remix... so much clearer, more powerful and more organic (as a drummer, the original mix with the heavily triggered drum sound on this album bothered me SO MUCH)
Really? Now that a pleasant surprise, really.
Very well produced. Although, very "clean". Well, it's always good to have both the original and newer versions, so I think I'll get nonetheless lol
Season of Mist, Mayhem?
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