Musicians - DO NOT Cover These Artists on Youtube.
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- Опубликовано: 12 окт 2023
- Hey all! Public service announcement for my fellow RUclips musicians out there, with regards to copyright blocks, claims and strikes. if you've had any experience with these issues, or artists who have blocked or striked you, please add a comment below as a way to help (and warn) other musicians out there.
thanks, Kelly 
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"Just avoid The Eagles' music at all cost." Done.
RUclips is a free platform, yet people act like they are paying huge sums so they deserve the right to post covers.
I have already done that,a long time ago.😢
Avoid an artist because they have decided that only themselves can use THEIR music publicly? Yeah, that's an adult way to behave.
I pretty much change stations when they come on, and had no interest in their last concert, after seeing Henley’s moronic take on it.
Never liked them anyway and never understood why so many people did.
I love Steve Vai!
He also owns all his own publishing so there are no crackerjack suits causing problems with covering his stuff.
Met him about a year ago. I could see him do this. Totally nice guy.
You cover Steve Vai songs.? That alone deserves praise.
@@kesamek8537 That's why he allows it .
Happy to hear that I have been a fan of his for a long time.
Retired bandmate from ancient band: Hey, I have an idea. Since the record company stopped promoting us thirty years ago we should mess with the kids promoting our music today.
Original songs? Is the company defunct?
There’s a difference between “promoting” something and “profiting” from something. Many think pop culture is their’s for the taking because it’s intangible and widespread in the media. Many don’t understand the concept of intellectual property, copywriting, and publishing. To be fair, they can be convoluted issues. But if you create media for profit it’s your legal duty to understand these things.
Blaming intellectual property owners as being stingy is ridiculous. Everyone deserves to protect their business, their products, the way they want to.
Could just say you are Chinese and you copied everything correctly right down to the little c in a circle.
Nope. But it’s their choice as to how they wish to let their music live or die in the future.
However, they worked to create it and should be paid for it. Period.
Only fair, guys and gals.
You don’t like to work for free do you?
"it is in your very best interest to just avoid their music at all costs" applies to listening to the Eagles, too.
More people know about King Crimson because of their blocking than probably have ever heard any of their music. Sounds like a good marketing scheme to me.
I saw a video that said, among others, the Jimmi Hendrix is becoming less and less popular and known because his music gets blocked. Yeah, block uploads of somebody who has been dead for over half a century. That’ll keep him in the limelight.
Fripp (I guess) has posted zillions of king crimson tracks on RUclips over last year or several and there is king crimson cover on RUclips now (court of crimson king).
There are dozens and dozens of King Crimson covers up on RUclips and many have been up for years.
My cover video of “Court of the crimson king” has been up for six years. Maybe I didn’t get bothered because it sucks 😂
@@wbertie2604It may be a label issue. Possibly, sine if he albums belong to a more protective label.
I heard back in the day, long before RUclips, King Crimson used to turn up the house lights 45 minutes into their concerts so security could catch the bootleggers turning over their 90 minute cassette tapes...
Legendary songwriter James Taylor did a live performance of one of his songs on RUclips. The video immediately got blocked by the publishing company who owned the copyright to the song. Crazy stuff.
That's the modern equivalent of John Fogerty getting sued for allegedly plagiarising one of his own songs in the '80s.
That is the music industry for ya. All about the money, not the cultural value.
Artists should never sell their catalog, unless it is an emergency
It's for that reason that you should AVOID CD baby at ALL COSTS. Glenn from Spectre Sound does mix reviews live on his channel where viewers send in songs they mixed for him to review. One of these viewer's used CD baby to put out the song and they took down the stream WHILE HE WAS LIVE because of that song, even though the copyright owner literally sent the song to him, asking for him to review the mix. They are also a pain in the ass if you later post a music video of the song. You read that right, if you put out a music video OF YOUR OWN SONG, you need to get their permission.
Leland Sklar has had the same problem, and he played bass on a lot of James Taylor's songs.
Some of those Rick Beato blocks were absurd. Beato was introducing many artists and albums form eons ago to whole new audiences and they block him. His "What makes this song famous" series was some of the best promotion some of those artists and albums ever had. To me, his channel is like a marketer's dream. Your product was directly pitched to a couple hundred thousand viewers who clearly all have potential interest in your product and you block him? I know it's legally correct to block but it just seems dumb AF.
I agree. I went back and listened to some Blink-182 after Rick posted a video in his "What Makes This Song Great" series. He had the studio cut of All the Small Things. So we were able to listen to isolated tracks. I was blown away by the talent and the production. And more amazed that it was Blink-182. Which I just thought of a watered-down punk and later Screamo.
Yea, it kinda makes me want to write Eagles parodies using their songs dissing this practice of attacking fans and promoters. 100% youtube legal idea right there...
I got into The Police because of him.
We do need a list of the losers that do this ...
@@gonebabygone4116 Did you not just watch the video on this very page??
I've been on RUclips since early 2007 and I've completely lost count of the RUclipsrs who have been wiped out by the copyright aspect to doing anything that's protected. There is always those producers who keep pushing the trigger buttons to get picked up by the content ID systems. Van Halen & Led Zep are also really strict about protecting whats their property.
That is funny considering VH has done lots of covers and Zep downright stole a bunch of tunes from obscure artists.
Hi BlueWingedRino, Van Halen gave me a strike on Ain't Talin' 'Bout Love (on my piano channel....and a completely different arrangement) and for Love Walks in. But I guess "You Really Got Me", "Happy Trails" and "Won't Get Fooled Again" were okay for them!!
Led Zep didn't seem to mind having Heart play one of their big tunes. I guess you have to be an elite.
@@BlueWingedRinothey did those covers LEGALLY. That's the difference. The fact that you don't understand that says loads.
@@kimghansonno they pay for licenses to be able to do that.
honestly, I would say that not only should we avoid covering their music on RUclips, we should avoid supporting their music at all (don't buy it, don't listen to it, don't stream it)....
Yeah, that'll teach them.
@@MrChopsticktech So who do we all think contributes more in this world? People who do tutorials for other musicians, or some bitter guy with 14 subscribers who comments constantly about something he'll never experience?
They love their property to rest in peace
@@yankee6962 yeah, seems like it for sure.
@@MrChopsticktech well, continuing to support them and give them your hard earned money while they make a point of sticking it to the little guy (who quite honestly might revitalize their music by putting it out to people who otherwise would not hear it) will TOTALLY show them... what a simp
Wow, I didn’t know this. Seems the bands would be happy that people are wanting to learn and cover their songs. Especially the younger generations. Crazy
they are short sighted and are old fogeys that don't understand the modern culture. Their music is going to die fast.
Chances are they are selling the music or have sold the music to somebody else. Taylor Swift is an example of an artist that covered her own material to counter somebody that owned the masters to her earlier work and therefore diminished the value of her earlier masters.
It is social engineering and destruction of culture.
Don't try and understand why... just accept that it is the owners' right to do with their property as they see fit.
Its not the Artist sitting there trolling RUclips. There are comapnies that do this. Blame the record company not the artist in the majority of cases.
You CAN beat copyright claims IF you purchased the licensed sheet music !! It includes public performance licensing!! Literally all you need to do is spend $20 and send them the bar code on the song book/sheet music!! Have fought and beat half dozen copyright flags simply because I OWN the sheet music and have license for public performance .. Start BUYING sheet music!!
This won't make a difference. UMG are currently issuing copyright strikes on the basis that "online publishing" is somehow different. You'd have to take them to court to argue that publishing a video is an online performance in order to win, because they'll just ignore your emails asking for a discussion about it.
I'm surprised with Robert Fripp. He posted some dozens of covers of him and his wife during the pandemic (and I think he still does that). And yet he strikes the ones who cover his songs...
I agree. Fun covers too! Maybe it’s the Record Company not the Artist.
fripp is weird.I've covered him.
In the Eagles case it is the artists.
It was surprising for me too, but I'm wondering if it might be because of his own record label Digital Global Mobile: this is one of the very few that don't actually own the rights on the songs, but only manages the copyright on behalf of the artists. The problem is, when someone posts a cover of one of these artists, they can't decide by themselves if they allow it or not, since... well, they don't own the rights. And the artists themselves probably have other things to do than review covers on YT to decide if they allow them or not. So the label blocks everything just to be safe... Just a hypothesis, but it sounds plausible.
Really...now I'm starting to not like Robert Fripp so much anymore. What a hypocrite he is, I'm disappointed in him. What a dickweed he is.
I don't get it?, covering these vintage tunes keep them and the artist alive in a lot of ways, even could present their music to a new audience
There's that for sure. There's also this.... MONEY! now I'm a little guy on RUclips, but many are not. There are people out there pulling in millions of views per video. Like Beato for instance. If he uses their music they can claim it as their own (fair enough) and keep all that money. A video with millions of views is 10 to 20 thousand dollars that they could be pulling in for doing absolutely nothing, but sitting back and letting someone promote their music.
Oh crap! I just said basically the same thing, lol. I should've looked at the comments first...
thats Don for you.....
Thanks for sharing that I never realized that
@@KellyDeanAllenGuitar
I suppose when you're the owner of the music you get to make the choice.
Time to start avoiding their music completely, playing watching, buying or attending concerts. So many of these "artists" who claimed they were in it for the music become successful and show they are only in it for the money. Don Henley has a net worth of 200 million. A youtube cover is not going to hurt him financially.
The reason I object to the way the law is set up in music, is that someone doing a cover never hurts the artist. The Publishing companies pretty much killed live music in the small towns on the west coast. They sent people in to any bar that had live music and demanded money for royalties. It wasn't worth it to bar owners. They just stopped doing live music.
If someone stole my guitar, I wouldn't be able to play. If I play someone elses song, they can still play it too. And they get paid a lot more than I ever will. It's just greed. And maybe ego.
Ehhhh, I don't know. I don't like it either, but if they wrote it, took the risks associated with being an artist, then it's their property.
Each cover is a FREE ad ffs!
@@Tom-uw2okOnce a song has become a hit, it then becomes part of our social consciousness, for lack of a better term. I already paid for the copy I learned the song from. If they don't want anyone to play their song, they can just not release it. Play it live, and keep it to themselves otherwise. If they didn't make a lot of money from it, they need to look at their recording contract.
What about new ones kingfish as an example
Eels are cool as hell in my book. Not only did they not copyright claim their song I covered, but they shared it on all their platforms. 🤜🏼🤛🏼
Weezer is cool too. Got positive feedback from guitarist Brian Bell after I covered them. 💙
I always put stuff in creative commons. This one we just want the message spread, cover away:
ruclips.net/video/3xsduz6_Wgo/видео.html
that's because no one likes weezer so they gotta keep their band relevant somehow
/j /j /j I love weezer
@@theDragoon007yaboiCJ Oof! 😬😅
@@chapmcchap2919 Those albums are amazing. Some of my favorites too.
Thank you. Glad you like my Ween cover. Their whole Pure Guava album has a very unique production. 🤘🏼💀
Greed, pure and simple! Keep doing those great instructional videos, you have a gift for teaching music and thank you for sharing your knowledge with us
well some of the artists...if you only have a dollar (one hit wonder) it's all the money in the world to you.
And ego
Absolutely
Yeah, I think many people underestimate ego. There may also be artistic vision, I mean, I’d cringe if I heard some busker playing a version of my song all cowboy chorded up and sang poorly.
Personally I don’t like covers, I hate doing cover gigs, so I have no skin in the game. That being said, if a song becomes popular then it is inevitable it will be covered [probably poorly] by the public and getting all ass-sore about seems futile to me
It's social engineering.
I’ve tried to look at this from both sides. But at the end of the day, I think these artists, e.g. Don Henley, are being very short sighted. People in their 20’s and 30’s are much more likely to get their information from RUclips, Instagram, Tik Tok, etc., than from other, more traditional mediums. So, if you’re someone who’s not familiar with the Eagles, are you going to stumble upon their music on Apple Music or Spotify, not knowing anything about them? As time goes by that’s less and less likely. But, maybe if you see someone like Kelly Dean showing you how to play one of their great songs it might motivate you to learn more about them. I’m afraid that a lot of these incredible bands from the 70’s and 80’s are going to slowly fade away b/c younger generations just won’t hear their music. It’s not like Rick Beato, Marty, Justin, or Kelly Dean are claiming that they wrote these songs. They are honoring them by showing you how great they are and how you can play them yourself. Again, just sort sighted.
exactly my idea. Some of them will be forgotten by the next generations.
Beato is a producer who owns his own studio, he knows damn well what he is doing is wrong. Fair use for educational purposes is for music courses, not his 'Nobody will ever hear this unless l post it' bs.
@@MrChopsticktech I, for one, am shocked that you have only 14 subscribers on your channel. You seem like such a likeable guy. 😂
Exactly!!
There was an artist that was formerly known by a different name, and was widely considered one of the greats of my generation. He had a strong wish to never, ever be on the Internet at all, and worked hard to eliminate himself from it. And it seems like he mostly eliminated himself from the collective consciousness of the younger generation as a result.
"No one sucks the fun out of the room faster than Don Henley"
Glenn Frey
Is this the punchline to a joke called "what did the one egomaniacal Ahole say to the other?"
People think their music is going to live forever and stay relevant. The fact is covers and tutorials turn more people on to older artists than anything else. They go and check out the original artist's catalog become fans. Lots of young fans actually believed that Sting/Dominic Miller ripped off JuiceWRLD with "Shape Of My Heart". They only knew the Juice WRLD riff, but that led them to discover the original.
Ultimately these chronic blockers/strikers are arrogant and short-sighted. You've provided a great service by giving names.
Well said. I did a remix of a Dead Can Dance track and a listener that had never heard DCD heard my remix and then went out and bought a Dead Can Dance compilation. More money for the band. It's a false economy to block covers.
Great advice and thanks for uploading this! Your tip on scanning RUclips for existing covers is a good one. I always do this. Just hope it continues to work! 👍
yeah, some bands deserve to be forgotten. Let them. What I am confused about is that some channels have a strike over a COVER, but when I search on YT for the original song, I have dozens of channels playing it in its entirety with no issues.
My 15 mins. of fame. I covered some Smithereens tune. Me and my friends went to see them and at the end of the show during autograph, they let me and my friends cut through the long line. Pat told me good job on my covers and told me the chords and tuning on " alone at midnight ". Those guys are awesome. RIP Pat D. Second would be Punky Meadows of Angel who is now my FB friend.
One of my favorite bands. I was devastated when I heard Pat had passed.
@@edlawn5481 I hear you man, thanks. He was such a great guy. Jimmy, Mike and Dennis are also some down to earth, cool gents. My best memory was at the 89X fest. They took it the next level.
Damn, Punky Meadows... Gotta dig out an Angel album. 😂
@@stefanie_jones lol. yep, start with Helluva Band. If the new Angel comes to your town, check em out. Frank vocals sounds awesome. He ain't lost it. Rock On.
@@kingemerald1 I have a couple of records by them I forgot which ones, lol. But yeah it's been a while since listening to them.
Before watching the video I'm going to guess The Eagles, Don Henley, AC/DC, Prince, The Village People and Supertramp. (I've had a run in with a few of those)
Now having seen it, and having a look on RUclips - it looks like Supertramp have softened their stance in the last couple of years - they were definitely as bad as Don Henley at one point. Prince seems fair game since he died - he would hand out DMCA's like sweets.
Add Queen to that list.
@@Roboticgladiator Really?
The Iggles should have been retired 30 years ago. Country music disguised as rock? GTFOOH.
The hypocritical thing about the Eagles, is that I saw a video clip of Don Henley going off about people covering the Eagles on YT, on how there's no protection, yadda yadda yadda, when they're the first to completely obliterate any artist who has the audacity to cover their music.
It's no wonder that these acts can barely crack the top 200 list on Spotify for most downloads. The less exposure overall (like just classic rock stations) the less relevant they're gonna be.
100% on Don. I tried uploading a bass cover of his Christmas song, BLOCKED as soon as it was uploaded, even on other platforms.
Yeah, I was planning on covering Boys of Summer. So much for that now.
Thanks for this. No risk of me trying to cover/remix the bands you mention. However, I had an experience where I remixed a relatively unknown band from Liverpool. I received a strike out notice without any real warning. The video was pulled as I had to do - fair enough. The sad thing is that the strike out notice was from one band member, whereas the other band members were happy for me to post the music. A shame really.
The first artist I thought of was The Eagles, and then that's the first artist you mentioned, so we're definitely on the same page their. I played a cover of Desperado at a talent show a few years ago and then uploaded the video of it to RUclips and it was immediately flagged for copyright as soon as I uploaded it. So that's a definite no-no there.
A warning to anyone who livestreams anywhere music could potentially be heard in the background. For example, you are in a store or restaurant and there are speakers in the ceiling playing music just loud enough to be picked up by your microphone. They treat barely audible background music the same as if you were playing a stolen studio master recording on your stream. Car stereos are also a problem. If a car with a loud stereo drives past you playing a song on the radio, you’ll get a copyright claim or strike against you. You could be near someone who has custom ringtone that plays a copyrighted song. Anything that causes copyrighted audio to appear on your video can be trouble.
Something I found out the hard way is if you record yourself playing a video game and the soundtrack is copyrighted, you can get in trouble. This even goes for “freeware” games. I have claims against several “free” games I made walkthroughs on that turned out to have copyrighted music for their soundtrack.
Thank you much, this is good to know. I just started my page with some old original demos but I am looking forward to droppin some live covers
You should throw Hendrix on your list. His family is very protective of his copyrights
That would be his sister Janie. I worked for Star Licks as an editor, and we did a Hendrix video. We had a white guy teaching the stuff. Sent it to Janie for approval, and she pitched a fit that it was a white guy and insisted on shooting a black friend of hers doing all the talking while cutting to the white guy doing the playing. She's mental, lol.
@@rickdaniels1789 Bigots gonna bigot.
Yeah his sister is actually a huge loser milking his influence for her own personal gain. That said, I've got a ton of Hendrix Shorts on my channel and have never had a problem. I've always thought they just blocked HIS actual tracks from being uploaded.
Different artists.....
I did a reaction on MY OWN SONG as a way to introduce my channel. It was the first time the song was ever played in public and it was played by my co-writer. The song had been written a couple of weeks earlier and was NOT available for purchase. No one outside of the singer and I (and our wives) knew the song existed...
And I got a copywrite strike from CS Baby, who NEVER had it. I had the temerity of challenging it and lost my channel.
It matters not what song or artist you do, you have a chance of a strike from people who don't have the right.
same applies to RUclips comments. if you flag someone's comment as offensive they get a strike with no avenue to defend themselves or reverse the ruling... RUclips doesn't even tell you what comment you made was flagged.
I have a strong suspicion that it's social engineering in the same way that the news broadcasts only fear and outrage - driving home the message that you don't have power and those who do will use it to mess with you as they like... nurturing frustration & learned hope/helplessness in us peons.
I license a lot of music. Last time I got a copyright claim on a video on my videography channel that was from a company that wasn’t the artist I tracked them down on google and sent their email a cease and desist, my license, and a link to where the song was downloaded from with a polite but firm email saying I’d report their illegal claim to the actual artist if they didn’t drop it. Turns out an artist had downloaded and licensed it from the same place, recorded vocals on it, then had it distributed through the company without telling them he didn’t own the music. They manually dropped it. Many of these companies have a partially automated system and just blanket ban, if you challenge in a place off RUclips then they can’t throw a strike at you because you didn’t challenge through RUclips. They also generally realize you were passed enough to track them down and you might actually call a lawyer.
CS Baby has claimed against music I purchased the rights to specifically for background music in videos, and didn't even sound the same as what they were claiming it was. CS Baby is a crappy copyright troll.
Maybe every RUclipsr that wants to cover a Henley tune should cover Mojo Nixon's "Don Henley Must Die."
Of course, Don once went on stage to sing it with Mojo, so he may still file a claim.
Yep, I got my first copyright strike the other day for a piano/vocal cover of Summer of '69. The system though is totally broken, as there are tons of covers of this song on RUclips with thousands of views, but me with my 1k subscribers and about a few hundred views on the video - got taken down !. The whole copyright claim system is screwed up and it's just pot luck if you get screwed or not. As you say I have no problem (and agree) that if I do a cover, any 'money' generated from that should go to the copyright owner, but issuing strikes and taking people's channels down is unnecessary.
Damn that's fucked. Piano + vocal cover is clearly fair use.
I wonder what would happen. If you and I acted out Pulp Fiction scenes. I bet QT wouldn't be a jerk about it.
This copyright malarky goes beyond just current material. I had a copyright claim on "When You and I Were Young Maggie", an 1865 composition, on my trivial, low-viewer channel. I think it was because some slack jaw country band did a slack jaw version of it on the B side of one of heir slack jaw albums 30 years ago. I stood my ground and won that one. Then there was the demo of the chord progression for "House of the Rising Sun". They claim to own the chord progression.
I just dont get why artists get all butt hurt when someone covers a tune of theirs. Its obvious they are a fan because well they covered the song. I have done some covers of songs that inspired me to pick up and learn an instrument and have used the songs as something to learn by. I fully agree that any ad revenue should be directed to the IP owners. I play the bass and was inspired to pick it up by Billy Sheehan. I'm now FB friends with him and hes given me so many tips on playing and gear setup that I owe him props for any skills i have now. Always responds and answers any questions I have and is generally one of the nicest guys I have ever had the pleasure of dealing with. Here's to you Billy!
I posted a cover of The Cars and Elliot Easton gave me a thumbs up. I'm sure he would have nothing to do with blocking though but rather the record company. I also used an isolated drum track from the original recording so it's kind of surprising that it wasn't blocked.
That's awesome! I got one from Steve Hunter a while back. Left a nice comment as well.
I covered the solo to Just What I Needed on a Short and got like 1,200 views or so and had no problem. I covered 2 Eagles solos with less than 1,000 views and got popped for both of them. Don Henley is just a miserable miser. I have no respect for him. I get they "own it" but the bottom line is we just want to pay tribute and draw attention on our tiny little channels and they act like we're robbing them at gunpoint.
Elliot Easton is super cool! He answered a question years ago on a forum.
Fans: covering their favorite songs to show appreciation
Bands: *so you have chosen death*
The only one that really surprised me was AC/DC. I've seen a lot of their stuff on youtube.
I've been blocked about 4 times by ACDC, just in the past year.
they really don't need that....would help their "cause" even....@@KellyDeanAllenGuitar
This as there are gobs of ACDC covers and tutorials.
It's not even legal in many cases, what the Artists or their Representatives are doing. Such as with Tutorial videos which are expressly a transformative use. They have no actual right to block that, it's just that none of us can lawyer up the way they can.
bingo
Staying “far far away from Don Henley and The Eagles” is good advice in general. Henley is a top level asshole. Frey wasn’t much better, but at least had the decency to die.
The Eagles and Bryan Adams will be forgotten very soon and deservedly so...
Making the world a better place. God bless'em.
I hate The Eagles attitude towards covers but they have created a musical legacy that will likely endure for decades to come...
@@BackwoodsFilms There are many things in the world that endure, but only a few become memorable and even fewer become cherished. You can't cherish or remember what you don't know. As it is today, some may recognize the Hotel but not everyone will know or care about the band, and this can only erode further if it's not advertised and promoted. Can the world remember or care about the author of "Happy Birthday"? As for me, the band was never one if my references. The emotions I may have had with them are now being overrun by a feeling of disgust, as it is an ignorant, arrogant attitude. And, although the scale of consequences is completely different, we're seeing in the world what that blind attitude may do to people. In my book, it's never acceptable, even if it is just about some songs or about a single guy ruining it for everybody. I absolutely loathe intentional stupidity.
@@BackwoodsFilms Who?
I did a cover of day tripper. It was not blocked but the ad revenue was claimed by a karaoke company. What amazes me is that there was no way for me to complain about it even though their karaoke version available on RUclips didn’t sound anything similar to my cover, but they treated it as if I had just used their audio and added my vocals.
This strike system is very ad hoc and clumsy.
I contacted Henley and told him that if he didn’t pay me Ibwas going to tour the country and hit every karaoke bar singing his songs as bad as I could. I haven’t heard back
This is often sleazy copyright trolls using bad AI to scan youtube, then scoop up the revenue.
spend $20 on the beatles song book of sheet music and you get live performance rights in the region where you purchased. I have vids on my other channel that are blocked in europe because the sheet music I own only licenses me in N america for performance. So the vids are shown everywhere BUT europe..
@@chadsulski9020 the way copyright works in American law is that once a piece of music is released to the general public, it can be covered by anyone and even recorded. There are, however, royalties due to the copyright owner. To perform a song in public requires a royalty from the venue, and to distribute a recording of a song belonging to someone else merely requires a compulsory license. A compulsory license is a license with a predetermined cost based on the length of the song and how many copies are distributed, and cannot be blocked by the copyright owner. The fee for the compulsory license is divided between the licensing organization and the copyright owner.
I had one blocked at upload for doing Tiny Dancer by Elton John. At first, I thought it was cool because it must have sounded like the actual song, but then I thought, how can you hold a copyright for an arrangement of chords? I mean, I didnt sing or anything. Just seems weird to me, lol.
I’ve covered just what I needed and good times roll and had no problem. Just moving in stereo for some reason. Love the videos btw. Your playing is right in the pocket and some of the best playing I can find. I watch your tutorials all of the time.
I can understand blocks since so much of the original music gets stolen today and no or little money with streaming. This is a great video to warn people upfront because I am sure many may not think about this.
I can’t wait for Don Henley to fade into obscurity.
Don henley a pain in the ass. God like
Who's that?
There go my plans to cover Boys of Summer.
The crazy thing about this is that it will eventually mean the artists making little money as they will end up being obscure to young people and be ignored. Your music won't live on after your death unless other people play it.
I'm surprised to hear that AC/DC blocks covers of their songs. Lots of people cover Thunderstruck on pianos, cellos, etc.
Maybe they only block it if you play it on guitars and include vocals.
There is one very important thing people miss in this.. SHEET MUSIC.. If you buy the sheet music you have performance license!! ( at least in the region you purchased it in)
Sad fact - once upon a time there was a bunch of "how to play" ACDC songs on tube and that's where I learned to play rhythm guitar. But nowadays you can find maybe few
For anyone who does covers or reactions to heavier music, the two labels I've had the most issues with are century media and equal vision. No other labels have blocked anything I've done but I'll never cover anything by those labels again. I always assumed it was the record label, not the artist, being strict with copyright stuff. If I was a huge artist, I'd personally be flattered if someone was covering my stuff. People always credit the band and I've never seen anyone act like they wrote the song they're covering or commentating on. I think it's more of an effort to keep small timers down. We know a lot of the big time RUclipsrs pay either Google or flintzy for algorithm boosts.
Yeah. 98% it's the labels making these decisions.
Good work, bands. Keep it up, and soon you will be completely forgotten even by those you love you most.
What a smart move, punishing people for paying tribute to you in the sincerest way possible!
I mean, that's why everyone loves Lars Ulrich, right?
I used to do a bunch of covers of Metalligeek back in the day (before YT.) Napster ruined it for me. I got rid of my collection of them and stopped doing covers of THEIR songs... but I still do covers of Diamond Head which they basically made a record career off of.
@@badopcode That broke them for me too. I still listen to the music now and then, but only because I don't really associate it with them any more. Lars killed THAT Metallica. Something else took its place.
Don Henley eh? The man never knowingly seen with a smile on his face.....
Kelly That's sounds like a great Maritimes accent if I am coreect? Awesome channel with great song selections, keep the great work.. Newly subscribed in the past month, your a great player, would love to hear some original content if you have any. God bless
Halifax Nova Scotia to be exact. And thanks!
Thanks so much for this insight! I've had a copyright strike on a BA song that I was analysing and critiquing; and not even one of his well-known ones. Living and learning, but this was a huge help for artists to avoid doing videos on in the future. :)
I would think that having covers of a song on YT would be very good for the original artist's bottom line. It's also a great homage.
Like a lot of commenters have stated, a good percentage of bands actually appreciate it. I know of one artist who did a duet with a Russian artist of the song "Down with the Sickness" that got kudos and high praises from Disturbed (the comment is even pinned).
On the flip side, this same artist did a beautifully haunting rendition of "Hotel California" that zapped a week later.
The only thing I ever got a copyright strike for was a Supertramp song, and it happened at a time when RUclips was indicating that covers of the song were allowed in the U.S. (RUclips used to have a place where you could look up whether a song was allowed to be covered in your country. If it still exists, I've lost my bookmark to it.)
A very helpful video. I didn't know the Cars was off-limits. I've made videos playing over clips of the original recording, and usually RUclips just runs ads and all is well, but holy hell, did doing an Eagles song bring problems. I tried phasing and pitch-shifting the recording to downgrade it, and nothing worked.
really good video. I was planning to eventually upload singing demos in the form of covers so it's nice to know who to avoid. I wonder how safe Dio and Iron Maiden are
Maiden are fine. I have a bunch of maiden covers. No problems at all.
I never had any issues with RUclips, but I remember a while back I was trying to learn the lead solo for Hotel California, and the Eagles made them take down the tab. I did cover a CCR song on RUclips, but I bought a public performance waiver from BMI. In any case, I never got asked for it.
I don't know if you ever play country music but I understand that Garth Brooks is extremely copyright protected too. The channel "307 Reacts" had an entire episode last January directed to other reactors about researching the copyrights on music (and warned to avoid Sony & it's many tentacles).
Extremely valuable insight here...we should all be cautious and respectful with others' creations. A little poking around the web will reveal many other artists who protect their rights aggressively.
These strikes on educational videos are an abuse of copyright law. Of course, if no-one fights it, it will get worse. And who are those Beagles anyway?
I used to have the cover of the song lying eyes on my channel, but like so many, it got a copyright strike.
Currently, I have two songs on my channel from the album Hell freezes over that I have chosen to cover. Interestingly enough, they are my most viewed videos, and I haven't gotten a strike against them. I'm wondering if it has something to do with that album not available anywhere on RUclips or the RUclips music app, but I'm not really sure
Seems to me that all the publishing houses and artists should simply create a monthly "mechanical license" agreement for RUclips usage - Exactly the same as the fee clubs and restaurants pay in order to "use" music and "live cover bands" in their establishments. Seems like it would be pretty easy to implement. Alas, The shortsighted nature of "the music bizz" is on full display once more.
Update: well, I had Bryan Adams' Summer Of 69 both as cover and as backing track video on my channel, and the backing track got removed today (Nov 13, 2023) and I've gotten my first strike. I removed the cover as well just to be sure. Bah.
So far, I've only had 2 videos immediately blocked, and those were by a Dutch singer called Anouk, and Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds by the Beatles (which I redid with the vocals turned down a lot to try and avoid the block, which worked.) I've got a Bryan Adams one and that was no issue, but it's so helpful to spread the names of these artists. Doing a whole song, playing, recording, editing, rendering etc. then to only find out it's useless feels like such a waste, and let's not even mention one's channel being nuked of off RUclips.
Thanks for sharing Kelly!
I tried to post my first video from one of my live streams the other day and it was immediately blocked. The band was Velvet Revolver. No copyright strike at least but I'm not sure if it's really worth all the effort to make content for RUclips . Great video though...thanks for the tips🤘
Good information, thanks for sharing!! 👍
I saw the Eagles a few weeks ago I went as a favor to my brother- in-law who got the tickets from his brother and couldn't get anyone to go. Don't worry, we didn''t have to pay for the tickets. Henley referred to the group on stage as the best Eagles cover band in the world. I think he's just an angry old man, although he seemed to realize he's at the end. Oh, they were really good and I'm glad I went.
If an artist has a problem with people covering their music, people should have a problem supporting any of the artist's music.
great suggestion
AC/DC are nuts if they dont want the free promotion to new generations. Their world level of fame was built from live performances and a handful of songs I'd say, rather than many albums of great material. Touring now behind them so RUclips would be perfect promotion
Thanks for the heads up. I don't create content, but it helps to understand why things happen on RUclips. I'm glad to know who has what kind of behavior.
Also, may I point out that your speaking voice is remarkably similar to Howie Mandell. I mean it is eerie! But I love it.
The ego's of these *artists...they were once inspired by other artists...who were once inspired by other artists. How are these bands being harmed by TUTORIALS??? The nasty nature of the music industry and protecting artists is yet another reflection of our greed. Look what the Rolling Stones did to The Verve with Bittersweet Symphony. Do as I say...not as I do. Sad state we're in with this stuff. As for the Eagles and Don Henley...they will pass on to the spirit world soon enough...guess the lawyers will still be here to protect their children's interest though. Shaking My Head.
We should all simply use this list as a blacklist, and avoid any interaction or action which would give that label (or sometimes artists - as in the first one's mentioned) any PR or monetary income. Let them be forgotten by everyone. Oh, I had already completely forgotten about Brain Adams - that name was one I hadn't heard since forever (nor his music), but of course - if he's actively blocking his work for being known, well then. You reap what you sow.
Let Brian Adams stay in Canada where he belongs ... no one will miss him or the 2 or 3 songs he's known for.
I’ve been watching KDA’s channel for a couple years. I’m not a guitar player, I just love the covers and the stories. But, THIS is the video that got BY FAR the most views. It’s So hard to know what the people will react to
Thank you very much for this. Good advice
Yep, Brian Adams. My fave artist's (a performing violinist) only takedown on her channel was Everything I'd do (I'd.. etc). So she will have to avoid her covering him again and I will keep avoiding his music at all, as always.
Avoiding King Crimson is fairly good advice for life in general.
In the Court of the Crimson King is still a banger tho
I always tried getting into them my dad loves them (and especially Gentle Giant) but it's a little much for me.
First, you are doing a great service by warning unsuspecting tubers and avoid yet another massacre by ignorance. Kudos!
Whatever the law or RUclips says, I think it's fair to compare the situation to what it's like outside or before RUclips. A small youtuber should be compared to an amateur cover band who collect 100$ at best from a gig and where the gig organizers are likely to be called out if they didn't pay the royalty forfeit to the collecting body and where the band is expected to provide the setlist. Read: most of that goes to the middle men anyway, so small tubers should be left in peace and RUclips itself could probably automatically share the revenue with the original author.
Big youtubers should be compared to bands getting airtime with their covers, where the band or their record company should get permission and settlement prior to recording the song. This is not only about the money, but about what other people do with your song for a big (international) audience. Imagine that awful version of Sound of Silence hit RUclips without prior agreement and people think this is the original. I wouldn't be pleased being Paul Simon. Can't believe he's pleased now, but at least permission was granted by whoever has the rights (I assume Simon himself).
Now to Rick Beato, Paul Davis and others, they are rather making instructional videos or doing reviews of songs and given their high professional standards, I'd rather treat them like radio stations than cover bands. Striking them with a ban is not so much morally wrong as intellectually. Still, Beato and Davis are making a livelihood out of it and can expect bands exerting their IP, up to some revenue.
Does anyone know how to get info on a list of songs that should be avoided when covering? Thanks
Hendrix is another one I've had blocked at upload. The laws are different in other countries - I've had friends from Europe send me a link to a video but I couldn't view it because I'm in the US. So just because somebody in another country can post a cover doesn't mean you'll be okay.
I agree, I can't even try to upload a 15 sec video of Who Knows...
Don't forget there was a biopic of Hendrix a few years ago and the production company were blocked from using his music! Plus a UK TV documentary about his death had to have "Hendrix sound alike" music instead of playing genuine material. It's pathetic.
Very cool of you to do this. Also, though it's been said many times and many ways, can't be said enough. F Don Henley and The Eagles!
I recall years ago, long before YT. Don sought legal action against Joe Walsh, because he performed Desperado while a guest on a popular show.
I'm getting old and a bit hard of hearing, Soggy Jelly and the Measles you say? Never heard of them.
Damn, that's cold.
Yeah I think he hit him for Life In The Fast Lane too and JOE WROTE THE RIFF! Letterman made a HILARIOUS lampooning skit about Don Henley and how idiotic he is. Henley even told Late Night Show bands to not play SNIPPETS of his songs. He's a total loser but tries to rail against captialism otherwise. Hypocrite much?
"Because it's *mine!* It's *mine!!* all *mine!!!!... mine, mine mine, mine mine!!!!!* And *YOU* can't have it!!!!!! Not ever... *never, never, never, never, never* !!! Whaaaaaah !!!!"
I have uploaded a few acoustic guitar and vocal cover tunes to my channel over the years (not many) and have gotten several copyright flags, the only strike I got was for an Eagles song. I didn’t know that I should have avoided any songs by them for upload.
Question: I can still view it, but I know nobody else can. Should I delete the video from my channel and will it remove that strike from my “record” if I do?
Justin Guitar said he just received a strike from Don Henley so he took down all the Eagles stuff that he has posted over the years. Don is accelerating the obscurity of himself and the Eagles. Don’t get me wrong, I love the music but his stance is alienating to fans. Thanks for sharing!
He must be ashamed of it. But this is what he should be ashamed of. Not that I even know who you are talking about, I'm afraid of the dark.
Don Henley has always seemed like a giant ass
@@williamgullett5911 Don't forget the hole.
@@Pedro_MVS_Lima lol, which one?
@@williamgullett5911 You may choose at your pleasure.
Thanks man, glad someone is standing up to this noncence. I'm lucky, most of the artists that block covers on YT I don't like anyways. Was very surprized to hear Adams and the cars are blockers, I love those guys. Maybe not so much any more ): I heard Zep and Floyd are and the be#tles, I could be wrong. My channel isn'y for making money, plus I have other content on there, covers are only a smal lpercentage. also I'm not in the USA.
Excellent advice here! My one and only strike came from the Logical Song by Supertramp, but that was before RUclips became less hostile to cover videos.
Good point to add here. RUclips seems much less hostile these days with regards to strikes. At least over the past few years. Like I said, I have over 1000 videos, many of them covers, and I've only been striked once. I think it was much more prevalent 10 to 20 years ago.
I posted a cover of Desperado by the Eagles about 3 years ago and it got denied immediately. It sat there on my list gaining internet dust. Then, all of a sudden, just a few weeks ago, it showed up in my feed as watchable, and is no longer exiled to obscurity. Well, other than hardly anyone watching it anyway. LOL. But yeah...I can understand the Eagles protecting their property, or anyone for that matter. But covers don't make you money, and are more of a salute to greatness in music that you love. This was an excellent video, dude!
I cannot understand how a "cover" or a "tutorial" is a copyright infringement save in your specific case where you are so close to the original that their algo's are incapable of determining the difference. I think your 80's background has an advantage other artists lack. Thanks Kelly.
Very kind man, thanks!
The most ridiculous part is the burden of proof is on the poster, encouraging frivolous claims by record companies.
@@bkmeahan I agree counselor that the burden of proof is upon the claimant and I provided links to the statements made by the witness that had first hand knowledge of the facts as to the agenda and beliefs of said artists and record companies. I object to your dismissive "frivolous claim" as it is a known unsubstantiated distraction technique that might preclude a medicated muppet from further investigation. Nice try record label executive.
A cover might be, but a tutorial shouldn't, as it is fair use. But I agree with Kelly's capabilities ;-)
@@Pedro_MVS_LimaNo, it isn't Fair Use. Do some research. Read RUclips's Terms of Service.
I think it’s not really smart for an artis to block covers. They make old songs relevant. Artists have the right to protect their intellectual property, and to make sure that people don’t get rich with their songs, but covers are usually made as a tribute. I’ve also realised lately that covers also help you discover new music, when you see a channel that has a lot of songs that you like and some that you don’t know, you might listen to them and like them
Thanks for list. Helpful. Supertramp got me my first and only strike a few years ago.
That was a painful ordeal. Now I just put up originals.
Thanks again for this vid.
Roger is a real piece of work lol ...First like ...Zulu
I used to have that exact Traynor Blue you got there. It was a fantastic amp, and I wish I still had it.
Led Zeppelin have always been the most notorious for blocking. Also, Jimi Hendrix, Queen, Black Sabbath, Kiss, Red Hot Chili Peppers, and of course The Beatles. Just from my experience of making lead guitar videos and acoustic covers. This is why I prefer to cover the lesser known bands/artists that have great hit songs. Like Gerry Rafferty's "Baker Street". 🎶
If Peter Grant was still alive, he'd probably show up at your house. Whenever Zeppelin came into a town to play, he would go around the local record stores looking for stores selling Zeppelin bootlegs.
I don’t understand really. I can find tons of how to play (some using the original recordings to play along with), isolated vocal tracks from Beatles songs, etc. that have been up for years. So is it only people actually covering Beatles songs in their entirety?
Leland Sklar got a take down notice on one of his videos showing how he played the bass on one of James Taylors songs, and he was the bassist in the band !
He contacted JT ,who told him he had no control over what the copyright owners did.
If you are recordinga video in a restaurant/bar/public place etc, you can get a copyright strike over music that is playing in the background...crazy.
Great advice, thanks!
Thank you. I appreciate this.
Money doesn't make you a better person. It just makes you more of what you really are. In this case, Don Henley, a bigger @$$wipe.
Im surprised about the Eagles as Hotel California is probably the most covered song on RUclips ...... keep up the great work 👌🙏👌
When I covered it about 2 years ago, instant block. I kept trying and after about my sixth attempt it got through. I've since pulled it however. They can't get em all I suppose, however you're playing with fire as far as the eagles are concerned. These small one-off bedroom type players covering hotel California aren't gonna get hurt very much by a strike however.
Isn't that one by RHCP?
@@KellyDeanAllenGuitar I think they just pull the great ones 😉
RUclips hasn’t been sending me notifications for your channel. You my friend are a bad man and one helluva guitarist.
Does anyone have input on Led Zeppelin covers, specifically Stairway to Heaven? I have a small channel and do not monetize my content (no interest in monetizing at all). I was wanting to cover Stairway a different instrument the was originally used and want to check on this before I put efforts into a potentially worthless endeavor. I did a quick RUclips search and did see quite a few covers, but as was said, be careful. I would really appreciate any input, thank you.
As others have done, and as you very well know, they will publish those on other platforms, namely subscription based ones like Patreon or Ko-Fi. Somehow, publishing it on a paid medium seems to prevent the moral issue of these so-called copyright infringement claims.
Add Prince to that list. Same treatment as the Eagles
never played a single song by him......
Not anymore since he died in 2016; since then there is a lot of prince on YT - guitar and not guitar related
@Aphotsirc I just got blocked not long ago trying to do "Let's Go Crazy", had to find some version with someone else singing to get it posted. I did do "Joy in Repetition" and that one didn't get blocked, so just watch out, some tunes get blocked immediately.
Thanks again for sharing
Good information. Thanks. I have several cover songs (two Ramones songs, one America song and a cover of Wipeout) I did just for fun on my channel along with mostly music I wrote and played myself. I make no money from youtube and I'm fine with that because that's not what I'm after. There is one instructional video I have that has had commercials on it. Now that kind of pisses me off a bit. I realize I get to post stuff for free, but still....