We Should NOT Repatriate Artefacts | Dr Sabine Haag | 6 of 6
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Dr Sabine Haag closes the case for the opposition, as the sixth speaker of six in the debate.
The Motion: This House Would Repatriate Artefacts Obtained Under Colonial Rule.
General Director of the Kunsthistorisches Museum, the Museum
of Ethnology, and the Austrian Theatre Museum. She is also a long-serving curator of the Chamber of Art and the Treasury.
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I can't steal your car and keep it because I'm a safer driver and I look cooler with it
Give it back to Egypt what was taken from her, especially that bust of Nefertiti. it is Egypts world wide symbol even if schollars debate if it is real or a forgery. Maybe if it stayed around Egyptologists long enough they would figure out whether it is real or a forgery .
@Kelp Farming instead of GIVING them electricity beseech your ancestors to leave some artefacts for you!
That’s not your problem. If you steal something you give it back like a responsible person. Or were you dragged up as a child?
if your great great great grandfather stole my great great great grandfather's car and you inherited it and u are a safer driver than me then ya u can keep it lol
Out and again, all defendants of not repatriating continually use words and concepts relating to universal culture, to heritage of humankind, to artifacts of all societies and countries. This is all, however, lost when you see the intention of these individuals to concentrate historical artifacts of all corners of the world in Great Britain, Austria, France, regardless of their value to all peoples and nations. Of course they are effusive in parading the wish to show their relics, but you will have to come to England for that.
One, then, is brought to question if they are all hypocrites or ignorant. Hypocrites since, on one hand, they decry the colonial inhuman barbarity, the pillaging of societies and free countries under unnecessary and absurd imperialist greed, whilst, on the other, limiting their collections to their own museums exclusively. Ignorant because perhaps they are simply unaware of the fact that a citizen of Ethiopia most surely cannot afford a trip to England in order to see its own people's cultural creations.
The hypocrisy, then, of these defenses has to be noticed: the theft and oppression of colonial times continues to today when an impoverished country has to pay in a foreign, expensive currency to travel in foreign airlines into a foreign country in order to come into contact with an object that, if not directly belonging to his nation and people, is much closer and valuable as identity to his culture than it is to foreign powers. The disregard to cultural identity of countries that have already suffered national imposition of language and habits in the past is continued with the argument that the personal belongings of their predecessors belongs to everybody, but not to them.
Many arguments could be made to guide the relocation of these artifacts, but surely, of all the possibilities for their original property, England is not of them. To believe so has,as a consequence, the denial of the value of the United Kingdom to be called a civilized nation, showing that it still operates under oppression and disregard to other modern countries, or to show how the civilized, first world truly came to its current state of wealth.
"We colonized some people, so let's keep the last surviving artifact of its kind representing them at our halls to remember that we did indeed colonize them".
yeah nah that's a warlord talking about war trophies, not a museum curator. shame on her
The argument that here in western cities, "Objects of importance for entire humanity is accessible for public".
Which public they are talking about? I being an Indian know very well that 95% of our students and people can't afford to travel to these glorious cities.
So, is the wealth a precursor to see and understand your very own cultural heritage?
also VISA
Does India not have any museums? Lol you're whining as if you can't go the the Indian Museum in Kolkata and see thousands of Indian and non Indian artworks. And cities like London, Paris, New York are the most visited cities in the world for travelers so that's what they mean by accessible for the public
Return what it does not belong to you. And kindly ask if you can borrow it for your museum. Period.
it doesn't belong to you either. That's the issue. And you are just buthurt now and asking to be retrieved because after all the work put on that artefact: it now has value instead of being something that would rot away.
it's like someone who find a rock in your garden anbd then, later it's actually an alien rock and you are like NOOO GIVE IT BACK!
who does it "belong" to then lol
You steal you give back, it is the right way.
They didn't steal. they preserved it before some local primats steal or destroy it. By your logic, Get rid of all Americans, it belongs to the American natives. You dumb small brain
@@Anudorini-Talah Your dumb as board weasel. There's no such things Americans just immigrants in Native land. You can't even agree who's an American pea brain 🧠, blacks are not Americans but African Americans as all other minorities, only whites are given that entitled privilege no matter if they are first generation that just stepped 🪜 out off a boat ⛵. Even the real Americans have to step down a notch and be called Native Americans douche bag. It's not preserving but stealing and desecrating holy places where you have no business being on.
Defending the undefendable
why is this channel shutting down conversation?- disabled comments on some of the videos. I thought this was a channel that highlighted debate
One form of imperialism: dismantle the heritage of other lands, then use argument that the host country has 'responsibility' for said object.
However I do think that as people travel, so should objects. And to be completely honest, more people are likely to view important artefacts in the cultural hubs of the world : london, paris etc.
Not Legal ownership but sharing cultural heritage ?! plz give us an example ... USA , Australia & Canada. very nice ... 👌 did you see this? very nice ... 👌
did you see the old Palestinian lady that made a garden out of hand grenades ? yeeeessss.... Very nice 👌 Borat will like it very much.... I think they might need some anthropologists...
Defending the undefendable
Plain and simple, return what you stole.
Make an international museum system where artifacts from a specific country is stored at the same country. NOT IN LONDON
Who won?
@@saccount-z3 The debate
Whoever is against this lady give ok!
How ashamed !!!
why is this channel disabling comments on previous videos that had many comments?
Evil Chalk People will show you who they are.... Ask them why steal others peoples' cultures & heritage...because they have none as worthy.
You guys stole now you want to share unbelievable
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I can't find this information anywhere. Was the motion defeated or not?
Until nations can prove that they have the infrastructure and political stability to guarantee the protection and longetivity of said artifacts, there's no reason why England or France should return them regardless of how they were originally obtained. Just look at what happened in Syria and the destruction of ancient Sumerian temples by ISIS. I fully support repatriation of artifacts but only when the country of origin is representative of the culture they are trying to preserve. Nations do not necessarily represent the culture that the artifacts belong to. And let us not forget during the occupation of Paris , priceless artifacts were hidden underneath by La Résistance in the catacombs.
India is pretty stable but they are yet to get back their stuff.
These nations, poor or rich decide what they do with THEIR own art. If they want to keep it, they keep it. If they want to destroy it then they destroy it. It's all up to these nations to decide. Not a bunch of jerking Europeans. You do NOT have the rights to decide what nations do with it their own. There's ZERO argument other than sheer arrogance!
Despite Egypt being a shithole its still capable of safeguarding artefacts once they are inside of museums. Nobody forces western countries to return everything. Only crucial and famous artifacts which were taken out illegaly. But nope, imperialism is yet to die.
especially Africa is pushing strongly to return artifacts. But who exactly are these "African authorities" who are demanding to restitute artifacts? These might be rather government officials who simply want to sell these artifacts to private international collectors and put that money into their own pocket. The African population - 60% are kept in slums - benefit zero, actually African slums are increasing while the politicians and prime ministers mysteriously all are billionaires.
Tell Chalk People stop stealing. Its not yours. The World knows chalk people have nothing of interest to Steal.