I was immediately asking the same question as you did "what kind of electric motor has only 50% efficiency?", it's a well known fact, that the motor of an average BEV already has an efficiency of over 90%.
The motor itself sure, but as of now the total system efficiency of a Tesla is around 80% and Tesla has the most efficient motor used in a electric vehicle currently. The motor is 97% efficient and the rest is system losses bringing it down to 80%
Any engineer that designs electric motors with just 50% efficiency wouldn't keep his job very long. Electric motors and Electrical transformers are some of the most efficient machines that have ever been produced. Anyone attempting to make them even more efficient are just hitting their heads against a brick wall.
Most people are simpletons. You can't watch any entertainment now without music. Most people don't like to think, so it distracts them. Music keeps them relaxed like rocking a baby and keeps the painfulness of thought away.
⬆️ this is why there is bg music in all these videos where there shouldn’t be… But it adds high frequency over his low voice with little excitement or emotional ranges aside from squeaking for some reason. This steady speaking with no pauses , breathing or changing… is hypnotic and can put people to sleep too. I find it extremely annoying but this is precisely why it’s there. To keep you engaged. And not clicking away… only certain people find it intolerable. I about clicked away tho. Just because of it. I don’t like anything subliminal or designed for specific things. Lol who would of thought putting elevator music as bg music as a good thing ? Pied piper effect 🤔
Your spot on with regard to power efficency. Perhaps the claims relate to the efficency of the magnetic force. Focusing the magnetic force improves the efficency of the magnetic materials used in the motor (not the power efficency of the motor).
I love the electric motor technology, the more efficient, more power that is being achieved. Wish I was an expert in the technology with access to all the resources to try and out-do what's already been done. Curious if you can compare Elon Musk's latest motor with (I think) rotated magnets, and carbon wrapped armature to prevent it from flying apart at 15,000 rpms. Thanks for the video. And, yeah, I am a little tires of people talking about the latest technology when it only runs at -300C or some such terribly cold and impossible circumstance for reality.
Hmm... thats like saying 2000w Wind Turbine - without stating at what wind speed do you need to achieve that, and how efficient is it at converting the available power in the wind. If a wind turbine needs a friggin storm to make it 2000w then they are not technacally lying lol... so yes "double the efficiency - compared to what?" good point
@DITECOProjects - Have you seen the guy in Shetland who uses a small rotary kite to get 450 watts" I am sure that he could easily get 2000 watts if he went for centripital rather than centrifugal flow.
@@DiyEcoProjects I assumed by the fact you were replying to RUclips comments meant that you were quite happy to invest your time in related conversations. That and your moniker. I did not realise that there was going to be a selection process.
@@christopherd.winnan8701 The onus is on you, as you initiated the conversation. From the previous message it appears you are asking me to do the research for you. Is this the case?
Motor efficiency is confusing unless you look at it the other way around, as a percentage of waste heat. 94% efficiency means 6% waste, so a 3% improvement in efficiency from there is actually cutting your waste in half.
@@jcd-k2s Depends on whether weight is important (e.g. electric aircraft). Small improvements in efficiency can greatly increase the usable power, or conversely reduce the weight of the motor for the same power.
Ten years ago I designed a Disk-Motor, on office word 12 coils of copper wire at the centre with twin discs each side of it. These carried permanent magnets which fitted to the centre shaft or drive shaft. The centre coils affected opposite poles each side of the drive disks. Then it vanished from the computer I was using? # ! This shows how the human collective mind can be picked up by others. The main thing is that we are very close to getting it right. Love it, thanks.
Electric coils will always have more power density. The rotational torque conversion to work done is the trick. This design is on the right path. Thanks for the vid. Subbed.
@@Tech_Planet This is interesting, everyone copies each other waiting for someone to come up with a new idea and steal that new idea and claim it for themselves. This all goes back to a robot from 1980 found and disappeared with advanced capabilities, it was basically walking down the street hidden, observing to humans in their habitat and they managed to obtain data on their anatomy. But this robot magically disappeared. The data collected on its operation was incomplete but sufficient to investigate and spend millions of dollars. Until now, drone technology and artificial muscles were born. air that until now have come to nothing and the motor is brushless, but the human intellect had a limit like that of any animal and they could not understand many things, the motor with a larger perimeter with the same energy was slower and consumed gigantic amounts of electricity, basically you need a tow truck for the batteries or a long plug, this means that this motor that we see from the Chinese, if it were real, is very slow and a power plant would be needed to give it energy, it could also be a copy of an engine that was never real that appeared in a popular mechanic in 1960, analyzing the Chinese engine apart from its slowness, if it were real, it would last running for a few seconds since the plastic structure would melt due to the heat...therefore it is It's a fraud, it's a chimera, it's like the fantastic Chinese plasma engine that everyone talks about and promotes. This supposed plasma engine doesn't push grams, it pushes tons. The problem is that there are no photos, drawings or videos. It's just Chinese propaganda.
@@Tech_Planet The motor is fake, the transparent plastic gives it away, it melts, it is plastic for a 3D printer and those coils will heat up to more than 90 degrees.
@@fakestory1753 If you analyze with Photoshop you will realize that 1 single coil has more copper than 5 percussion drills, I mean we are talking about a motor with extreme heat and slowness if it were real and to coordinate those coils you would need an ESC the size of a tower PC and To supply that with electricity you would need a mini power plant because the electrical network of a house would not be enough. Most likely, as you say, it is a model taken from the Internet. The Chinese government has infiltrated a team of Western scientists or inventors in each team. spy who copies the invention and sends it to China but they have no idea how they work or the criteria of the inventions, it takes them decades to do reverse engineering and then they are awarded it or they create incredible news about inventions that there are no photos or videos
I am glad you asked what they were comparing it to. The first question I had when reading the title was "compared to what?" because I knew electric motors aren't that inefficient.
Focused Magnetics created an electro magnetic Halbach array STATOR (never done before successfully) used in combination w/permanent magnet Halbach array rotors. The pole ratios on both stator & rotor are, Stator - 3%\97% [motor airgap] 97%\3% - Rotor. More magnetic flux power at the air gap. NOTE: the power required to energize the Stator is still same to generate the nearly doubled magnetic flux at the motor airgap generating torque (same amount of motor materials). Conventional motor architecture ratios are (R50%/50%ST) = 100 but FM motors = R97%\97%St. more of the total available magnetic flux energy at the airgap. Same sized motors, the FM motor double the output (power density). They never mention efficiency as doubled. The benefit is 97%Rotor + 97% Stator of avail magnetic flux energy w/o more battery pwr energizing the coil! Does it help solve battery requirements (less batteries) to achieve a given range goal, yes!
Thank you for sharing. I am for 9 years EUC rider and just wait the producers to make new engine that makes the Electric unicycle lighter and consuming less electricity
Informative and right to the point. I agree with your assessment: a claim that something has twice the efficiency of a standard electric motor, reveals a snake oil peddler at best. Nice animation.
Isn't the whole point of axial flux that you can have a stator in the middle sandwiched between two rotors, meaning you want the electromagnetic force going out both sides to both rotors? It sound like using a halbach electromagnet would actually perform worse. This would only be good for radial flux it seems.
Here's a major fact or opinion (however one wishes to view it) our government is forced to prevent "at home" energy inventors from putting out real products due to being forced by big tech and major energy companies...along with others
The idea is probably made obsolete by axial flux motors which don't need to project their field quite as far from the stator. You can use the induction trick with axial motors too if you want to eliminate permanent magnets and easily implement regen braking by boosting rotor current to bump back-EMF up to battery voltage at whatever current is desired.
Thanks for pointing these things out. I was just going to add how I managed to make a magnet attract itself to a steel shielding plate blocking a magnets field which would have repelled it, then with its momentum it moved past the attracting point to where the repulsive forces on the other side took over, and this magnet did attract then repel ITSELF past the other Magnet, due to focusing the shape of the field to be asymmetrical. Soon I plan to resume working on that, and I like the ideas you pointed out here, I may just combine all of these together, and make my next design(s), thank you! Oh and I should add how you can use Pyrolytic Carbon to always repel a magnetic field, along with Soft Iron/Steel in order to compress and attract the field, combined with Halbach Arrays, to make magnetic motors/generators even more efficient. I am working on mine, and calling it the "Mag-Gen Motor/Generator", for Magnetic-Generator. I also have another design using rotating magnets on gears, with iron plates to block the fields between them for half the rotation on one side and the other half on the other side, so the forces between round magnets will cause the maximum torque thus power output on both sides almost 100% of the time (a small bit less). This I think will gain the most electrical power that is possible from between Permanent Magnets. I think there are better ways to obtain energy from the Fluctuations in Earths Magnetic field and Ionosphere like Nikola Tesla's Wardenclyffe Project was going to do, or from the "quantum foam" like a NASA Eagle Works patent I saw (but is THAT one Real? IT could derive enough energy to vaporize any material I think!).
@@MrEagleeye58 An external excitation synchronous motor/generator is the easiest and most reliable way to go about it in most cases where you need regulated output. Most power on the grid generated by rotating machines is handled this way.
@@teardowndan5364 Ah so most people use a Car Alternator, if you generating power from hydro what would you get that is readily available. Or would you simply use a car alternator and simply put a few of them on the same shaft?
@@MrEagleeye58 If you hack an alternator to substitute your own higher-voltage diodes, you can get 50+V out of them to directly charge a 16S 48V LFP pack and get 3-4X as much power per alternator.
The white wheel on the shelf looks familiar. Accept the inner ring is the outer ring no inner ring. And is incomplete ring like that to create a natural state or free state so it can pass into the next pole.
Even more interested in how this could possibly affect electrical generation? If you can use the hall effect to produce a more efficient electric motor, it only stands to reason you could use exactly the same thing to produce a more efficient generator. A more efficient generator can convert more mechanical energy into electrical current
At the University of Alaska Fairbanks research to find a propulsion system is underway using a portion of the Halbach Array called the London Assemblage Configuration. A prototype has been built at the University.
This isn't new tech, had a guest speaker talk about something similar when I was in school in science club. Just reversing the direction on windings was what I understood he was doing.
Its going to be a nightmare trying to cool the thing since it won't be running at 100% efficiency and all that loss ends up as heat within the motor...
I'm gonna be honest if you're trying to get a really efficient motor You need a coil and capacitor that is as close to the same value as possible. And then with a pulse width modulator or a control module. you can pulse it at the frequency so you can get very high torque. But we've gotten away from that. Even though Nikols Tesla showed us the true popencil of capacitor and coil resonant frequency oscillations.
@Modelights : The behavior of magnet : like sign (+ & + ... or - & - ) = repulsion/ push effect... Unlike sign = attraction/ pulling effect.. In short, the magnet have "natural pressure" push/ pull effect, with fellow magnet... Inventors, engineers, etc. simply utilized such "magnet behavior" , convert it to mechanical action- the result, the common electric engine, using elec' to produced strong magnetic field... Almost all modern engines/ machines are "pressure" operated- such pressure coming from : magnetic field, fuel detonation, winds, waters, gravity (hydro. electric dam), boiling water, photo. electric, etc..
@@arielhermoso4262 LOL As if I need someone who understands far less than me to 'explain' motors to me. Remove your head from your rear. The video said 'magnet free motors', as if there haven't been motors that operated with stator coils instead of magnets since the early beginnings of motors.
I am just amazed that the world has been using efficient motor design for over a hundred years. What the hell took them so long to wise up ??? BRING ON THE EFFICIENT MOTORS !!!!!!
I read that the typical motor design loses efficiency due to a magnetic field that forms while the motor is spinning. This causes a magnetic drag on the core while it’s spinning thus reducing output potential. Tesla designed an oval toroidal shaped motor that was also able to correct this inefficiency.
My question is he going to be supressed by the people that control the energy industries and the big conglomerates. Will he have to watch his back out of fear.
A cheap $5 Chinese fan motor, having only a single inductor, can easily reach efficiencies of 300%. This unique type of motor/generator was designed by a special friend of mine.
Very interesting - in the future, please. please. please could you make a how to video on how to order PCB stators from Print on demand companies like PCBway. Their quote application form is quite complicated, but filling it in teaches you a lot about axial flux motors. Maybe a video run through of how to order a PCB stator will be a good opportunity to break down all the different aspects....
I converted a small pickup to "Series-Wound" DC electric in 2007 (Note: Lead acid batteries suck and weigh too much. Nothing else was really available then, at my price point). One of the things I learned, was that the coils on the armature could come apart, if the armature RPM exceeded 4000 rpm. What has been done to hold the armature coils together under these conditions? I would imagine that the various magnetic fields cause flex in coils over time (which is why they're wound so tightly, and glued). Comments? Thanks.
It is just an engineering solution for coil structure. Coils do flex, but as before, an engineering application. All good stuff for people who like to be challenged!
My bet on magnetless motors is carbon nanotube windings. Carbon is so much lower density than copper, even matching the conductivity would be a huge improvement. And if a halbach stator is already worth doing, it will be even better when you're replacing heavy iron with lightweight carbon.
@dekutree64 : So, your idea is to replace the iron core of the elec. motor, with that of nano carbon- just coating the iron core with nano carbon, or 100% replacement of said iron core, by nano carbon materials?... Is the said nano carbon a good magnetic materials- identical to iron when it comes to magnetic field induction?...Is such nano carbon a good conductor of elec'ty , like gold, silver, copper, aluminum, etc...
@@arielhermoso4262 I mean constructing the motor almost entirely out of carbon. Like coreless copper windings, plus using halbach pattern in the rotor and stator to direct the magnetic field where you want it without needing back iron. Carbon nanotubes can theoretically be something like 1000x more conductive than copper, but so far there aren't any techniques to produce long continuous tubes, and yarn made from short tubes has relatively poor conductivity due to the high resistance of jumping from one tube to another.
Thanks for the vid, lots of similar ideas have been in my head for a while now and learning to try draw up some designs using finite element analysis software which can really help to visualise how it all works, all seems like a very promising direction for things in future.
Wow, that Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series sounds like a game-changer for outdoor enthusiasts and RV lovers! The massive capacity, fast recharging, and waterproof technology really caught my attention. Plus, the ability to monitor power usage with the smart app control is a great feature. Thanks for sharing this recommendation!
In many situations when saying 50% better efficiency, it means 50% less losses compared to some other motor. While it can be debated whether it is correct to say it this way, it makes some sense when talking about efficiencies close to 100%. In this lever, efficiency increase don't have significant meaning, except when dealing with waste heat. We can also get better efficiency increase when talking about efficiency on non optimal area. For example with EV's, average efficiency is not close to motor maximum efficiency.
Source? What should i search for google for the original design? I found a combustion motor patent with the name. Well its not necesarilly bad if it inspired this electric motor design, but yeah dont say its original if its not your idea like for 90%
You and Cedric Lynch would get on well! The Idea of Halback coils instead of magnets is intriguing but wouldn't one induce current into the other if their currents were fluctuating and wouldn't that induce and cause back EMF?
Well, the back EMF is driven by the magnetic fields from the rotor. These magnetic fields aren't aligned with the rotor magnetic fields in the same way, so I would expect the back EMF to be small compared to the axially aligned coils...
No magnets is a real plus. Inboard motors present a less complex deployment, easier cooling implementations and removing the weight from the wheel itself allowing for conventional wheel systems and a larger range of vehicle choices without having to re-engineer for specific wheels. No magnets frees up companies and indeed nations to be less dependent on China and rare earth supplies. Copper is everywhere. Even aluminum can be substituted where useful. Inboard motors can also have a two-speed gear assembly or small CVT via the exit shaft, expanding even more the potential uses. Efficiency should not be the holy grail to which all other forms are sacrificed. Superconductor cooling is an energy loss and only suitable for extreme applications where cost of build and operation is not an issue.
Please keep it up. That is background music disapproval. Please no music pass it on. This goes for all background music where there is a narrator. Please stop the music.
That motor sounds very much like an alternator as far as cooling forced air or copper tubing around stator with fluid like antifreeze pumped through in a closed loop would probably work best
Electromagnetic excitation is nice, because you can vary the magnetic excitation in order to operate the motor with an additional degree of freedom. But electromagnetic excitation is also less efficient, because you need some energy for the excitation current.
It all Very Interesting But You Still have to Factor Centrifugal Forces Relative to Mass in to All This, you cannot run big motors on 12v and Expect it to Pull or push large amounts of Mass No Matter How Efficient they are 🤔
So where is the motor in the thumbnail? That seem like it would work the best. Also i had that saem idea of using induction to give power to the electromagnets in the rotor. No need for brushes. Had that idead years ago. Didnt think i was the first thou
There is ALWAYS a trade-off. I'd love to see the torque and efficiency graphs for these motors. You almost always have to give up something to gain elsewhere. I work for an R&D traction motor engineering company. I've seen some of these ideas simulated and fall dead on their face for one reason or another. Either you lose too much low RPM torque or your top RPM becomes too limited. Then you have parasitic power loses and increased complexity to the electronics. If a motor is 99 percent efficient, but the electronics driving it are only 80 percent efficient, you have an overall system with only 88/89 percent efficiency.
John Searl (John Searl Effect) created the most brilliant CONTACTLESS magnetic generator/motor of which I truly believe is the same physics that these UAPs utilize, as they perform 90* turns at mach 5; the magnetic manipulation creates a contained vacuum... and the greatest aspect is that it only requires the simple wave a magnet to agitate the feild and it's all systems go!!!
The key for EVs is NOT slightly better power to weight, but lowering the cost. Even that means nothing when the batteries are the bottleneck in weight and cost and size.
we just found a brand new super conductor we make synthetically and the best part is it works at room temperature! we need to focus on making as many super conductors as possible and get them into the new motors so we can move forward. it is time and now we have a way. but there is not much time left to get it done and begin to fix the problems we have created or there wont be a world left to save imho.
Also different metals prefer or resist different polarities. Efficiency can be gained by using two or even three different metals like Nathan Stubblefield did. A ignored part of science. Copper, zinc or aluminum and steal or iron based would be the easiest choices. Silver is neutral and can always be used for a benchmark for testing the difference of using other metals. Positive should be one, negative should be another the path to ground should be another.
Tesla planning to use ferrite as a alternative to rare earths and get a workable radial flux EV motor. We have a design that uses very large ferrite magnets in a spoke design held in place with a carbon fibre sleeve. The Coersivity and Remanence of ferrite magnets have been improved so much that this is now possible. There is really no need for anything more complicated than this. Our motor has identical torque and power density of a VW APP550 motor. It is more efficient and around $200 lower cost. However to achieve these high performance ferrite magnets, a small amount of light weight rare earth oxide called Lanthanum is incorporated in the ceramic materials. As always it is the detail of any engineering design that creates results. Lanthanum is around 1/10th the cost of Neodynium and because it is ceramic it is non conductive and can operate up to 250 deg C. When Tesla makes a move it is usually the best one.
See he was using a ferrocell to view the magnetic feild. I was there the day the minute for the first time the world actaully viewed the magnetic feild live on RUclips. It was awesome. Thank you angry photographer.
Do you have a link to Eirex you can post here? Thank You! I looked it up online but all I get are companies that want to invest in technology in Canada
I was immediately asking the same question as you did "what kind of electric motor has only 50% efficiency?", it's a well known fact, that the motor of an average BEV already has an efficiency of over 90%.
The motor itself sure, but as of now the total system efficiency of a Tesla is around 80% and Tesla has the most efficient motor used in a electric vehicle currently. The motor is 97% efficient and the rest is system losses bringing it down to 80%
Any engineer that designs electric motors with just 50% efficiency wouldn't keep his job very long. Electric motors and Electrical transformers are some of the most efficient machines that have ever been produced. Anyone attempting to make them even more efficient are just hitting their heads against a brick wall.
@@KenFullman motor will burn very quickly
@@KenFullman 30 40 years ago whenever I ordered a “AC” motor the P.F. was very important. The P.F. Now days is much smaller.
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What is the point of irritating background music throughout? It's not how we listen to people or lectures.
I like the background music, but he's right, keep the music for video transitions and self-describing animations
Most people are simpletons. You can't watch any entertainment now without music. Most people don't like to think, so it distracts them. Music keeps them relaxed like rocking a baby and keeps the painfulness of thought away.
There is nothing wrong with the background music
⬆️ this is why there is bg music in all these videos where there shouldn’t be…
But it adds high frequency over his low voice with little excitement or emotional ranges aside from squeaking for some reason.
This steady speaking with no pauses , breathing or changing… is hypnotic and can put people to sleep too.
I find it extremely annoying but this is precisely why it’s there. To keep you engaged. And not clicking away… only certain people find it intolerable.
I about clicked away tho. Just because of it. I don’t like anything subliminal or designed for specific things.
Lol who would of thought putting elevator music as bg music as a good thing ? Pied piper effect 🤔
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Your spot on with regard to power efficency. Perhaps the claims relate to the efficency of the magnetic force. Focusing the magnetic force improves the efficency of the magnetic materials used in the motor (not the power efficency of the motor).
Forget superconduction, concentrate on enhanced conductors. "Let not the perfect be the enemy of the good!"
I love the electric motor technology, the more efficient, more power that is being achieved. Wish I was an expert in the technology with access to all the resources to try and out-do what's already been done.
Curious if you can compare Elon Musk's latest motor with (I think) rotated magnets, and carbon wrapped armature to prevent it from flying apart at 15,000 rpms.
Thanks for the video.
And, yeah, I am a little tires of people talking about the latest technology when it only runs at -300C or some such terribly cold and impossible circumstance for reality.
Variable excitation has been around on generators for a long time, so it makes sense to try and use it in motors
The visualization at the end with the rotating magnetic fields looks amazing, the fields look like turning gears
Wait till you hear about magnetic gears...
@@gringene_bio Right?!
Agreed. That was brilliant. Got me thinking of tweaks and mods that could work and power so many things if they can get it right.
Hmm... thats like saying 2000w Wind Turbine - without stating at what wind speed do you need to achieve that, and how efficient is it at converting the available power in the wind. If a wind turbine needs a friggin storm to make it 2000w then they are not technacally lying lol... so yes "double the efficiency - compared to what?" good point
@DITECOProjects - Have you seen the guy in Shetland who uses a small rotary kite to get 450 watts" I am sure that he could easily get 2000 watts if he went for centripital rather than centrifugal flow.
@@christopherd.winnan8701 yeah, ive seen the video. Interesting isnt it. It seems using it to waisted on as torque.
@@DiyEcoProjects Have you had any thoughts on effective ways to funnel such a wind stream? What would be the optimal geometries for the vortex?
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I assumed by the fact you were replying to RUclips comments meant that you were quite happy to invest your time in related conversations. That and your moniker. I did not realise that there was going to be a selection process.
@@christopherd.winnan8701 The onus is on you, as you initiated the conversation. From the previous message it appears you are asking me to do the research for you. Is this the case?
Motor efficiency is confusing unless you look at it the other way around, as a percentage of waste heat. 94% efficiency means 6% waste, so a 3% improvement in efficiency from there is actually cutting your waste in half.
@@jcd-k2sit's negligible unless you just so happen to need that extra 18km to reach the next EV charging station
@@jcd-k2s Depends on whether weight is important (e.g. electric aircraft). Small improvements in efficiency can greatly increase the usable power, or conversely reduce the weight of the motor for the same power.
@@vueport99 or you are taking the sum total of losses from a million cars driving 20,000 km a year.
Ten years ago I designed a Disk-Motor, on office word 12 coils of copper wire at the centre with twin discs each side of it. These carried permanent magnets
which fitted to the centre shaft or drive shaft. The centre coils affected opposite poles each side of the drive disks. Then it vanished from the computer I was using? # !
This shows how the human collective mind can be picked up by others. The main thing is that we are very close to getting it right. Love it, thanks.
Remake it back up your work
Electric coils will always have more power density. The rotational torque conversion to work done is the trick. This design is on the right path. Thanks for the vid. Subbed.
Thanks for the info!
@@Tech_Planet This is interesting, everyone copies each other waiting for someone to come up with a new idea and steal that new idea and claim it for themselves. This all goes back to a robot from 1980 found and disappeared with advanced capabilities, it was basically walking down the street hidden, observing to humans in their habitat and they managed to obtain data on their anatomy. But this robot magically disappeared. The data collected on its operation was incomplete but sufficient to investigate and spend millions of dollars. Until now, drone technology and artificial muscles were born. air that until now have come to nothing and the motor is brushless, but the human intellect had a limit like that of any animal and they could not understand many things, the motor with a larger perimeter with the same energy was slower and consumed gigantic amounts of electricity, basically you need a tow truck for the batteries or a long plug, this means that this motor that we see from the Chinese, if it were real, is very slow and a power plant would be needed to give it energy, it could also be a copy of an engine that was never real that appeared in a popular mechanic in 1960, analyzing the Chinese engine apart from its slowness, if it were real, it would last running for a few seconds since the plastic structure would melt due to the heat...therefore it is It's a fraud, it's a chimera, it's like the fantastic Chinese plasma engine that everyone talks about and promotes. This supposed plasma engine doesn't push grams, it pushes tons. The problem is that there are no photos, drawings or videos. It's just Chinese propaganda.
@@Tech_Planet The motor is fake, the transparent plastic gives it away, it melts, it is plastic for a 3D printer and those coils will heat up to more than 90 degrees.
@@gatoninja4387 or it can just be a demonstration model in that image rather than actual product
@@fakestory1753 If you analyze with Photoshop you will realize that 1 single coil has more copper than 5 percussion drills, I mean we are talking about a motor with extreme heat and slowness if it were real and to coordinate those coils you would need an ESC the size of a tower PC and To supply that with electricity you would need a mini power plant because the electrical network of a house would not be enough. Most likely, as you say, it is a model taken from the Internet. The Chinese government has infiltrated a team of Western scientists or inventors in each team. spy who copies the invention and sends it to China but they have no idea how they work or the criteria of the inventions, it takes them decades to do reverse engineering and then they are awarded it or they create incredible news about inventions that there are no photos or videos
I am glad you asked what they were comparing it to. The first question I had when reading the title was "compared to what?" because I knew electric motors aren't that inefficient.
Focused Magnetics created an electro magnetic Halbach array STATOR (never done before successfully) used in combination w/permanent magnet Halbach array rotors. The pole ratios on both stator & rotor are, Stator - 3%\97% [motor airgap] 97%\3% - Rotor. More magnetic flux power at the air gap. NOTE: the power required to energize the Stator is still same to generate the nearly doubled magnetic flux at the motor airgap generating torque (same amount of motor materials). Conventional motor architecture ratios are (R50%/50%ST) = 100 but FM motors = R97%\97%St. more of the total available magnetic flux energy at the airgap. Same sized motors, the FM motor double the output (power density). They never mention efficiency as doubled. The benefit is 97%Rotor + 97% Stator of avail magnetic flux energy w/o more battery pwr energizing the coil! Does it help solve battery requirements (less batteries) to achieve a given range goal, yes!
More advanced electric motors need to get rid of permanent magnets and windings and make them more simplified and robust.
Thank you for sharing. I am for 9 years EUC rider and just wait the producers to make new engine that makes the Electric unicycle lighter and consuming less electricity
So interesting. . . . can't wait to see what advanced A.I. comes up with for a motor in the future.
Informative and right to the point. I agree with your assessment: a claim that something has twice the efficiency of a standard electric motor, reveals a snake oil peddler at best. Nice animation.
Great analysis- hopefully someone figures out the "right components" and makes it all work.
They won't. It's just snake oil.
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I want to see this crossed with a multi layer axial flux motor design now, I bet the performance would be insane
your right except it would require rethinking the cheapest ways to mass produce them! That's the key!
No, it wouldn't
How? There is not much percent left to gain.
Isn't the whole point of axial flux that you can have a stator in the middle sandwiched between two rotors, meaning you want the electromagnetic force going out both sides to both rotors? It sound like using a halbach electromagnet would actually perform worse. This would only be good for radial flux it seems.
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Here's a major fact or opinion (however one wishes to view it) our government is forced to prevent "at home" energy inventors from putting out real products due to being forced by big tech and major energy companies...along with others
06:35 That is one of the tidiest motors I have ever seen. Engineered beauty. Really great vid. Instant sub. Cheers
Finally, someone did it
The idea is probably made obsolete by axial flux motors which don't need to project their field quite as far from the stator. You can use the induction trick with axial motors too if you want to eliminate permanent magnets and easily implement regen braking by boosting rotor current to bump back-EMF up to battery voltage at whatever current is desired.
Thanks for pointing these things out. I was just going to add how I managed to make a magnet attract itself to a steel shielding plate blocking a magnets field which would have repelled it, then with its momentum it moved past the attracting point to where the repulsive forces on the other side took over, and this magnet did attract then repel ITSELF past the other Magnet, due to focusing the shape of the field to be asymmetrical. Soon I plan to resume working on that, and I like the ideas you pointed out here, I may just combine all of these together, and make my next design(s), thank you! Oh and I should add how you can use Pyrolytic Carbon to always repel a magnetic field, along with Soft Iron/Steel in order to compress and attract the field, combined with Halbach Arrays, to make magnetic motors/generators even more efficient.
I am working on mine, and calling it the "Mag-Gen Motor/Generator", for Magnetic-Generator.
I also have another design using rotating magnets on gears, with iron plates to block the fields between them for half the rotation on one side and the other half on the other side, so the forces between round magnets will cause the maximum torque thus power output on both sides almost 100% of the time (a small bit less). This I think will gain the most electrical power that is possible from between Permanent Magnets.
I think there are better ways to obtain energy from the Fluctuations in Earths Magnetic field and Ionosphere like Nikola Tesla's Wardenclyffe Project was going to do, or from the "quantum foam" like a NASA Eagle Works patent I saw (but is THAT one Real? IT could derive enough energy to vaporize any material I think!).
What is the best kind of motor to generate electricity from Water spinning a shaft?
@@MrEagleeye58 An external excitation synchronous motor/generator is the easiest and most reliable way to go about it in most cases where you need regulated output. Most power on the grid generated by rotating machines is handled this way.
@@teardowndan5364 Ah so most people use a Car Alternator, if you generating power from hydro what would you get that is readily available. Or would you simply use a car alternator and simply put a few of them on the same shaft?
@@MrEagleeye58 If you hack an alternator to substitute your own higher-voltage diodes, you can get 50+V out of them to directly charge a 16S 48V LFP pack and get 3-4X as much power per alternator.
It's a step in the right direction.Little by little we learn and move ahead.Great vid!
Just keep politics out of it. Progress will be possible.
An axial motor with a halbach focused magnetic array would be super compact, and efficient, even without super-conducting.
I believe A RUclipsr made one already. I don't remember his channel currently tho:\
The white wheel on the shelf looks familiar. Accept the inner ring is the outer ring no inner ring. And is incomplete ring like that to create a natural state or free state so it can pass into the next pole.
Nice animations sir. Makes it easier to understand what you are trying to teach. Thank you Tech Planet. Very helpful.
Fascinating, never heard of many of those types of motor design, thank you for the intro
Even more interested in how this could possibly affect electrical generation? If you can use the hall effect to produce a more efficient electric motor, it only stands to reason you could use exactly the same thing to produce a more efficient generator. A more efficient generator can convert more mechanical energy into electrical current
At the University of Alaska Fairbanks research to find a propulsion system is underway using a portion of the Halbach Array called the London Assemblage Configuration. A prototype has been built at the University.
Next rotate the individual Hallbach configurations
This isn't new tech, had a guest speaker talk about something similar when I was in school in science club. Just reversing the direction on windings was what I understood he was doing.
Smart thanks man
Axial + Hallbeck coils + Induction coils sounds like a good idea.
Its going to be a nightmare trying to cool the thing since it won't be running at 100% efficiency and all that loss ends up as heat within the motor...
Supper efficient portable generators... yes we need!
Thank you. Love the info you share. Keep going sir, nice job
I'm gonna be honest if you're trying to get a really efficient motor You need a coil and capacitor that is as close to the same value as possible. And then with a pulse width modulator or a control module. you can pulse it at the frequency so you can get very high torque. But we've gotten away from that. Even though Nikols Tesla showed us the true popencil of capacitor and coil resonant frequency oscillations.
I like motors. They are cool.
God loves the person who spreads knowledge among people. Continue this good work
Great explanation the incredible idea! Thank a lot!!!
'can we actually build a magnet free motor?' As if there haven't been magnet free motors for decades :D
@Modelights : The behavior of magnet : like sign (+ & + ... or - & - ) = repulsion/ push effect... Unlike sign = attraction/ pulling effect.. In short, the magnet have "natural pressure" push/ pull effect, with fellow magnet...
Inventors, engineers, etc. simply utilized such "magnet behavior" , convert it to mechanical action- the result, the common electric engine, using elec' to produced strong magnetic field...
Almost all modern engines/ machines are "pressure" operated- such pressure coming from : magnetic field, fuel detonation, winds, waters, gravity (hydro. electric dam), boiling water, photo. electric, etc..
@@arielhermoso4262 LOL As if I need someone who understands far less than me to 'explain' motors to me.
Remove your head from your rear. The video said 'magnet free motors', as if there haven't been motors that operated with stator coils instead of magnets since the early beginnings of motors.
I am just amazed that the world has been using efficient motor design for over a hundred years. What the hell took them so long to wise up ??? BRING ON THE EFFICIENT MOTORS !!!!!!
I like the music too!
It just looks like another basic improvement to not necessarily need permanent magnets
I read that the typical motor design loses efficiency due to a magnetic field that forms while the motor is spinning. This causes a magnetic drag on the core while it’s spinning thus reducing output potential. Tesla designed an oval toroidal shaped motor that was also able to correct this inefficiency.
My question is he going to be supressed by the people that control the energy industries and the big conglomerates. Will he have to watch his back out of fear.
A cheap $5 Chinese fan motor, having only a single inductor, can easily reach efficiencies of 300%. This unique type of motor/generator was designed by a special friend of mine.
make magnetic battery first
Very interesting - in the future, please. please. please could you make a how to video on how to order PCB stators from Print on demand companies like PCBway.
Their quote application form is quite complicated, but filling it in teaches you a lot about axial flux motors. Maybe a video run through of how to order a PCB stator will be a good opportunity to break down all the different aspects....
People invented cores for stators already, which are able to get a field configuration Halbach didn’t dream about
I have ideas for a model that is self propelling and without a need for cooling to generate electric on its own.
The wind always blows (not in the same place, of course) so the trick is to choose the correct places to install the Wind Farms
I converted a small pickup to "Series-Wound" DC electric in 2007 (Note: Lead acid batteries suck and weigh too much. Nothing else was really available then, at my price point). One of the things I learned, was that the coils on the armature could come apart, if the armature RPM exceeded 4000 rpm. What has been done to hold the armature coils together under these conditions?
I would imagine that the various magnetic fields cause flex in coils over time (which is why they're wound so tightly, and glued).
Comments?
Thanks.
It is just an engineering solution for coil structure. Coils do flex, but as before, an engineering application. All good stuff for people who like to be challenged!
My bet on magnetless motors is carbon nanotube windings. Carbon is so much lower density than copper, even matching the conductivity would be a huge improvement. And if a halbach stator is already worth doing, it will be even better when you're replacing heavy iron with lightweight carbon.
Great point!
@dekutree64 : So, your idea is to replace the iron core of the elec. motor, with that of nano carbon- just coating the iron core with nano carbon, or 100% replacement of said iron core, by nano carbon materials?...
Is the said nano carbon a good magnetic materials- identical to iron when it comes to magnetic field induction?...Is such nano carbon a good conductor of elec'ty , like gold, silver, copper, aluminum, etc...
@@arielhermoso4262 I mean constructing the motor almost entirely out of carbon. Like coreless copper windings, plus using halbach pattern in the rotor and stator to direct the magnetic field where you want it without needing back iron.
Carbon nanotubes can theoretically be something like 1000x more conductive than copper, but so far there aren't any techniques to produce long continuous tubes, and yarn made from short tubes has relatively poor conductivity due to the high resistance of jumping from one tube to another.
At the turn of the twentieth century there were already cars based on this concept
However good on him
Still, it’s worth getting a look at and seeing if it has a real world application.
Thanks for the vid, lots of similar ideas have been in my head for a while now and learning to try draw up some designs using finite element analysis software which can really help to visualise how it all works, all seems like a very promising direction for things in future.
This is called an asynchronous motor commonly used in industrial applications to adjust power factor in generation
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Hidden Technology YT channel is the next step
think you bro for that informetion ...becuse i love the energy and the universe fron evrythin bigan
In many situations when saying 50% better efficiency, it means 50% less losses compared to some other motor. While it can be debated whether it is correct to say it this way, it makes some sense when talking about efficiencies close to 100%.
In this lever, efficiency increase don't have significant meaning, except when dealing with waste heat.
We can also get better efficiency increase when talking about efficiency on non optimal area. For example with EV's, average efficiency is not close to motor maximum efficiency.
Yes. But can I plug my fridge into it?
Thanks. I learned something!
This is the Bulgarian engineer Encho Enchev’s motor design! It was just being made electric! Nothing original or invented now in 2023!
Source? What should i search for google for the original design? I found a combustion motor patent with the name.
Well its not necesarilly bad if it inspired this electric motor design, but yeah dont say its original if its not your idea like for 90%
Still, somebody had to make it electric its a win
I feel like old RUclips is coming back
Frictionless technology magnified spaceing ?
You and Cedric Lynch would get on well! The Idea of Halback coils instead of magnets is intriguing but wouldn't one induce current into the other if their currents were fluctuating and wouldn't that induce and cause back EMF?
Well, the back EMF is driven by the magnetic fields from the rotor. These magnetic fields aren't aligned with the rotor magnetic fields in the same way, so I would expect the back EMF to be small compared to the axially aligned coils...
Or not!
No magnets is a real plus. Inboard motors present a less complex deployment, easier cooling implementations and removing the weight from the wheel itself allowing for conventional wheel systems and a larger range of vehicle choices without having to re-engineer for specific wheels. No magnets frees up companies and indeed nations to be less dependent on China and rare earth supplies. Copper is everywhere. Even aluminum can be substituted where useful. Inboard motors can also have a two-speed gear assembly or small CVT via the exit shaft, expanding even more the potential uses. Efficiency should not be the holy grail to which all other forms are sacrificed. Superconductor cooling is an energy loss and only suitable for extreme applications where cost of build and operation is not an issue.
Bro the invention of new type of energy not like electricity ❤
very interesting, thanks
You think the engineers @ IBM, TXN, AND GE, could woop up A flex- capacitor out of something like this
I am impressed by the video👍
What industries dont use with these motors be transmissions, they could turn that 2MW into a down statement an make so much more
Try adding a fractal capacitor array to drive the halbach motor design .
Just might help to reduce some of the copper and current losses.
Please keep it up. That is background music disapproval. Please no music pass it on.
This goes for all background music where there is a narrator. Please stop the music.
Good job
That motor sounds very much like an alternator as far as cooling forced air or copper tubing around stator with fluid like antifreeze pumped through in a closed loop would probably work best
That looks like a generator i have been working on for years
Electromagnetic excitation is nice, because you can vary the magnetic excitation in order to operate the motor with an additional degree of freedom. But electromagnetic excitation is also less efficient, because you need some energy for the excitation current.
It all Very Interesting But You Still have to Factor Centrifugal Forces Relative to Mass in to
All This, you cannot run big motors on 12v and Expect it to Pull or push large amounts of Mass
No Matter How Efficient they are 🤔
So where is the motor in the thumbnail? That seem like it would work the best.
Also i had that saem idea of using induction to give power to the electromagnets in the rotor. No need for brushes. Had that idead years ago. Didnt think i was the first thou
I liked your video! Earlier I was watching Alexander Graham Bell's Tetrahedral Kite!!! Have a Royal Purple Day!!!
Amazing video wanna see more like this
I'm lost. Induction w/o magnets?
There is ALWAYS a trade-off. I'd love to see the torque and efficiency graphs for these motors. You almost always have to give up something to gain elsewhere. I work for an R&D traction motor engineering company. I've seen some of these ideas simulated and fall dead on their face for one reason or another. Either you lose too much low RPM torque or your top RPM becomes too limited. Then you have parasitic power loses and increased complexity to the electronics. If a motor is 99 percent efficient, but the electronics driving it are only 80 percent efficient, you have an overall system with only 88/89 percent efficiency.
The greatest loss is back-torque.
The smell of bulldung is strong with this one.
John Searl (John Searl Effect) created the most brilliant CONTACTLESS magnetic generator/motor of which I truly believe is the same physics that these UAPs utilize, as they perform 90* turns at mach 5; the magnetic manipulation creates a contained vacuum... and the greatest aspect is that it only requires the simple wave a magnet to agitate the feild and it's all systems go!!!
The key for EVs is NOT slightly better power to weight, but lowering the cost. Even that means nothing when the batteries are the bottleneck in weight and cost and size.
Bro these are more power efficient so will require lesser/smaller batteries and therefore loser cost.
we just found a brand new super conductor we make synthetically and the best part is it works at room temperature! we need to focus on making as many super conductors as possible and get them into the new motors so we can move forward. it is time and now we have a way. but there is not much time left to get it done and begin to fix the problems we have created or there wont be a world left to save imho.
Allsome work from cruzermans inventions 😁👍🎉🌟🦇
Young ideas very 💯🙏
Also different metals prefer or resist different polarities. Efficiency can be gained by using two or even three different metals like Nathan Stubblefield did. A ignored part of science. Copper, zinc or aluminum and steal or iron based would be the easiest choices. Silver is neutral and can always be used for a benchmark for testing the difference of using other metals. Positive should be one, negative should be another the path to ground should be another.
really cool find
I though we just got room temp super conductors. Also what if you mixed in a tesla turbine?
Experiment's are good. 👍👊🤘✌
Tesla planning to use ferrite as a alternative to rare earths and get a workable radial flux EV motor. We have a design that uses very large ferrite magnets in a spoke design held in place with a carbon fibre sleeve. The Coersivity and Remanence of ferrite magnets have been improved so much that this is now possible. There is really no need for anything more complicated than this. Our motor has identical torque and power density of a VW APP550 motor. It is more efficient and around $200 lower cost. However to achieve these high performance ferrite magnets, a small amount of light weight rare earth oxide called Lanthanum is incorporated in the ceramic materials. As always it is the detail of any engineering design that creates results. Lanthanum is around 1/10th the cost of Neodynium and because it is ceramic it is non conductive and can operate up to 250 deg C. When Tesla makes a move it is usually the best one.
See he was using a ferrocell to view the magnetic feild. I was there the day the minute for the first time the world actaully viewed the magnetic feild live on RUclips. It was awesome. Thank you angry photographer.
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