A lot of people have asked me about a good Cloudlifter and Shure SM7B bundle. As it turns out Sweetwater has a great bundle. Here's a link to it! bit.ly/CloudlifterandSM7BBundle
Excellent job summarizing the main idea in the first 2 minutes. There are dozens of these videos but that kept me watching the rest of your video. Keep up the good work.
Thanks you sir Very much. I have seen so many videos on this but this is best and most direct. My set up now works. I am using the shure sm7b with a cloudlifter to zoom H6. I couldn't get the MIC to work on any four channels channels on the H6, but when I turned the phantom power on ! BOOM ! It worked. I didn't earlier because the shure sm7b being dynamic mic does not require phantom power they say but turns out if you're using the cloud lifter, you have to turn on phantom power. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!
what if I'm using the 8i6 Scarlett, would I need one since the 8i6 takes its power from a wall plug and not through the computer via usb? ( I'm also using the Shure SM7B)
Good question! I don’t believe the microphone preamp specs change. If you have a gen 3 Scarlett you can drive an SM7b or f you turn up the gain to 100%, but it doesn’t sound all that great to me.
Hello, thank you for the amazing review! This video inspired me to invest in this exact setup, so thank you for the recommendation. Finally got everything setup today, however I’ve ran into a bit of an issue. When I play back my audio with this setup, I seem to get a electrical whine in my sound. However when I plug my microphone directly into my scarlet without the presence of the cloudlifter, I no longer have this issue. Any tips on how to resolve this problem?
Hey Steven! The Cloudlifter is an input device so it wouldn’t help the output in this case. If I had to take a quick guess I imagine the input gain on the camera is set too high. Try lowering that and raising the x32 output.
Here I am with budget mic, budget interface, trying to get my mic to act properly.. you have any videos with lower end items using the CL-1? I have a weak Behringer X802USB with an AKG P220 mic. I am almost sold but.. I am afraid that buying this for my setup wouldn't change much and it would be a waste of time and money.
Great review! on your testing are you completely deactivating the +48V pre-amp (ie. OFF) on the FocusRite OR are you simply turning it way down to compensate for the additional boost?
Hey Joseph, thanks for the comment! I did just adjust the gain level down on the interface after activating the Cloudlifter to show how we could reduce gain on the primary interface and still be louder overall with lower noise/distortion.
Hey Cage, how are you? I'm currently using a M-Audio 192/4 and considering buying a sm7b, do you think i should get a Cloudfilter CL1 aswell? Thank you!! Great video
I can’t figure out how to stop the noise (hissing sound) with my SM7. I bought the cloudlifter and it’s still doing it.. should consider another interface? I currently have the focusrite
Good question! I think the Scarlett can have some noise if the gain is set too high. Are you keeping it pretty low on the interface itself and letting the Cloudlifter give you the bulk of the gain? Other quick things to check would be replacing mic cables and checking for potential power issues.
Dang Ryan! Flexing with that ribbon mic! lol. As far as bus powered usb interfaces, I have a EVO 8, which is bus powered through USB C. Does the USB type matter? Also, for the ribbon mic, you used your apollo interface which I believe has a power supply. Yet there was a perceptible gain boost with the cloudlifter. Since I have something similar with the iD44, which also has its own power supply, is a cloud lifter really necessary? I seems to me that with an interface that has it's own power supply, we can just boost the gain from the interface with no problems.
Yeah yeah yeah! Interfaces that have an external power supply are more likely to have enough gain, but even then it can still be good to have a Cloudlifter. For instance, even the Apollo is on the fringes of having enough gain on its own so if you can balance between the Cloudlifter and main interface I think you can find a sweet spot in the sound/noise.
I have a neat worker bee... do I need something like a cloudlifter ? I have it plugged into my zoom h4n pro. Sojnds good but I have to turn up the input levels to around 70...
Hey A1Bokeh! No need for a CloudLifter on the worker bee because it's a Condenser microphone. The Cloudlifter is really for dynamic microphones or for passive Ribbon microphones.
That's kinda hard to say, because he said it does add color, and the neutrality of the mice and line-in would be altered. Thus, the emulation would be off. If you wanted to use it, I think you'll have to run a line-out to the cloud lifter, and then another line-in, if that makes sense.
What is the equivalent product for guitars? I feel like this might be an issue with guitars too. It's suggested to increase the gain to the point that the audio interface doesn't clip. However, when you do so, you raise the noise floor too and it's clearly audible as hizzing, noise, static sound. So, what can be done in this case?
Hey Dennis, thanks for watching! There sort of is a way to do this. If you look for a guitar preamp you can do something similar, or an Active DI with a gain circuit would also do something similar. You could also get a 500 series product and use a DI on that to go into the interface.
@@TheGearCage Hi, thanks for the reply. So, this is why some people use stuff like the Lehle Sunday Driver in front of the audio interface. I just googled it again and it seems to be a preamp. I will research more about this! Thank you!
Been using the sm7b with the CL1 and the focusrite scarlett solo (2nd gen), I now have no sound from the mic. Cables have been changed/checked (OK). Any other troubleshooting thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Roadcaster pro = 55 db gain, cloudlifter CL-1 = 25 DB can I add another cloudlifter for an extra 25 db with the same signal chain going to the sm7b ? Someone please respond
@@TheGearCage do you know of a way I can connect another DAW to the roadcaster with an additional cloudlifter just in case I needed more gain on the sm7b
Hey i just got a SM7B to use with a cloudlifter into my Apollo Twin USB. I bought the mic in order to record vocals and mostly for pop music (which means a lot of compression:). Here's the issue... the noise floor is insanely high and despite preamp level there's always a high white noise type sound in the recordings. I've tried without the cloudlifter, different xlr cables, with the monitors and lights turned off, different preamps / with uads clean preamp, different mic and cable positions around the room… but no matter what i try the noise is still there. It wouldn't have been an issue if the noise did not compete with the vocals in the mix… i’m using a gate to mitigate it but of course it’s not a proper solution. I’m really desperate here guys and would love if any of you could help me out! Thanks! *I’v been recording a lot with a neumann tlm 102 without any issues so the preamp in the apollo itself and cabels should be fine*
it could be your computer generating an electrical noise. try with a different pc or a laptop not plugged in and plugged in. I had a desktop pc that added electrical noise to my 2i4 and I noticed my old laptop used to do that sometimes when the charger was connected and sometimes when the charger wasn't. I changed the pc and it doesnt do that. so maybe try a different pc. ****[just saying]
I own a Sony a7iii, a zoom h6, sennheiser mke 600 shotgun mic. Would a cloudlifter help me get more gain w less a noise floor? I feel like around 7 on the gain from the zoom is where is starts to get noisy. I was hoping this would help. Thank you
We’ll that is a good point. The cloudlifter won’t pass phantom power. That’s not always a dealbreaker though. For instance, the Rode NTG4+ is battery powered so you could use a Cloudlifter to boost gain. Otherwise you’d have to have a phantom power box post Cloudlifter which is another workaround.
It still doesn't make any sense why the XLR audio interface manufacturers can't integrate a signal booster stage inside their equipment. The Cloudlifter needs to be powered anyway by the audio interface, and that power consumption comes from the usb port in the computer. There is just no excuse to have to buy an extra power stage to add to another power stage.
Instead of paying for an audio interface with garbage preamp and paying extra for dedicated preamp that also cannibalizes on 48v phantom power, it is wiser to pay for an interface with quality preamp.
I think you can hear a little bit of noise if you have the volume turned completely up in RUclips. At normal volumes it shouldn't be that recognizable. Interestingly enough, I can hear a little bit of noise on my 16" MacBook Pro speakers, but nothing really through my studio monitors/headphones/or LG widescreen speakers when completely turned up. It might have something to do with the optimization/DSP in the laptop speakers. So many variables when it comes back to audio playback these days.
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A lot of people have asked me about a good Cloudlifter and Shure SM7B bundle. As it turns out Sweetwater has a great bundle. Here's a link to it! bit.ly/CloudlifterandSM7BBundle
This was perfect not only did you explain its use but you're holding my Solo (which is kinda why I clicked the video in the first place hehe) Thanks.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and the kind words. Take care and let me know if I can help out with anything else!
Did you buy the CL-1? If so, what mic are you using with the Scarlett Solo? Was it worth it?
Same. Once I saw the Scarlett, I clicked.
Excellent job summarizing the main idea in the first 2 minutes. There are dozens of these videos but that kept me watching the rest of your video. Keep up the good work.
Thank you, and thanks for watching!
I watched like 4 videos so far and this one by far was the most easy to understand what a cloudlifter is. 👍🏼
Great job explaining the CL1 Ryan. The difference in audio with the CL inline was amazing.
There's no difference. When you boost the audio by the same amount from any source it has the same effect.
Excellent clear explanation and demonstration. You’ve convinced me.
great informational video, and thank you for clarifying on all accounts. really appretiate you!
Thanks for the amazing review. Would like to know if it can be connected to a mixer with either dynamic microphone or condenser microphone ?
Great 👍🏾 Test. I’m sold.
Thanks for taking the time to watch! If you have any other questions let me know.
Loved it man thank you for sharing! Bought the Cloudlifter after seeing your video 👍🏻👏🏻
Thanks for watching and the kind words!
Thanks you sir Very much. I have seen so many videos on this but this is best and most direct. My set up now works. I am using the shure sm7b with a cloudlifter to zoom H6. I couldn't get the MIC to work on any four channels channels on the H6, but when I turned the phantom power on ! BOOM ! It worked. I didn't earlier because the shure sm7b being dynamic mic does not require phantom power they say but turns out if you're using the cloud lifter, you have to turn on phantom power. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!
Excellent video...lucidly explained .Thank You...Im getting one definitely..👍👍
what if I'm using the 8i6 Scarlett, would I need one since the 8i6 takes its power from a wall plug and not through the computer via usb? ( I'm also using the Shure SM7B)
Good question! I don’t believe the microphone preamp specs change. If you have a gen 3 Scarlett you can drive an SM7b or f you turn up the gain to 100%, but it doesn’t sound all that great to me.
Brilliantly explained! Thank you so much!
Thanks for watching and the kind words!
Hello, thank you for the amazing review!
This video inspired me to invest in this exact setup, so thank you for the recommendation. Finally got everything setup today, however I’ve ran into a bit of an issue. When I play back my audio with this setup, I seem to get a electrical whine in my sound. However when I plug my microphone directly into my scarlet without the presence of the cloudlifter, I no longer have this issue. Any tips on how to resolve this problem?
Thank you for this.
Would this help me.
I got a low volume hiss.
Going from buss channel x32 mixer to a canon video cam via xlr?
Hey Steven! The Cloudlifter is an input device so it wouldn’t help the output in this case.
If I had to take a quick guess I imagine the input gain on the camera is set too high. Try lowering that and raising the x32 output.
Thank you Ryan you explained this very well.
I learned a lot 😁great job👏🏾👏🏾🥳
Here I am with budget mic, budget interface, trying to get my mic to act properly.. you have any videos with lower end items using the CL-1? I have a weak Behringer X802USB with an AKG P220 mic. I am almost sold but.. I am afraid that buying this for my setup wouldn't change much and it would be a waste of time and money.
Great review! on your testing are you completely deactivating the +48V pre-amp (ie. OFF) on the FocusRite OR are you simply turning it way down to compensate for the additional boost?
Hey Joseph, thanks for the comment! I did just adjust the gain level down on the interface after activating the Cloudlifter to show how we could reduce gain on the primary interface and still be louder overall with lower noise/distortion.
Hey Cage, how are you? I'm currently using a M-Audio 192/4 and considering buying a sm7b, do you think i should get a Cloudfilter CL1 aswell?
Thank you!! Great video
Yeah, you’d definitely need to get one for it.
will it make any difference for condenser mic like Rode NT5 (Acoustic Guitar) Recording? by using Yamaha MG10XU
I can’t figure out how to stop the noise (hissing sound) with my SM7. I bought the cloudlifter and it’s still doing it.. should consider another interface? I currently have the focusrite
Good question! I think the Scarlett can have some noise if the gain is set too high. Are you keeping it pretty low on the interface itself and letting the Cloudlifter give you the bulk of the gain? Other quick things to check would be replacing mic cables and checking for potential power issues.
@@TheGearCage ok thanks. I’ll try replacing the cables if that doesn’t work I don’t know I’m gonna be pretty hurt 🥲😂
Turn your master output on your pre amp down and turn your gain up all the way I don't have the CL and this works for me💪
Dang Ryan! Flexing with that ribbon mic! lol.
As far as bus powered usb interfaces, I have a EVO 8, which is bus powered through USB C. Does the USB type matter?
Also, for the ribbon mic, you used your apollo interface which I believe has a power supply. Yet there was a perceptible gain boost with the cloudlifter. Since I have something similar with the iD44, which also has its own power supply, is a cloud lifter really necessary?
I seems to me that with an interface that has it's own power supply, we can just boost the gain from the interface with no problems.
Yeah yeah yeah!
Interfaces that have an external power supply are more likely to have enough gain, but even then it can still be good to have a Cloudlifter.
For instance, even the Apollo is on the fringes of having enough gain on its own so if you can balance between the Cloudlifter and main interface I think you can find a sweet spot in the sound/noise.
Awesome video thank you for the review
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do you know of a way I can connect another DAW to the roadcaster with an additional cloudlifter just in case I needed more gain on the sm7b
I ordered the SM7B. I will use it for live broadcasts. I'm using SSL 2+, do you think I should buy Cloudlifter?
The SSL2 can drive an SM7b, but if you find you don’t have enough gain you can always add one.
What shotgun mic are you using bud? I liked the sound of that better than the ShureM7B
I'm glad you liked the videos! On this video I used a Rode NTG4 Plus. bit.ly/RodeNTG4plusShotgunMic
came here for audio now im wondering what camera / lighting do you use??? Please respond! @TheGearCage
Thanks for the kind words! BlackMagic PocketCinema 4K on the camera and Fovitec 600xb on lights and Panasonic LUMIX lens on the camera.
You sold me on it. great video! you have a new subscriber.
Thanks for watching and the kind words!
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hey Cage im using sm7b with babyface pro fs do u think cl1 will be good for me
The Babyface has 65dB of gain with fairly low noise/distortion specs. That said, it would probably still help a bit.
@@TheGearCage just ordered the cl-1 cloudlifter for a the little extra boost
I have a neat worker bee... do I need something like a cloudlifter ? I have it plugged into my zoom h4n pro. Sojnds good but I have to turn up the input levels to around 70...
Hey A1Bokeh! No need for a CloudLifter on the worker bee because it's a Condenser microphone. The Cloudlifter is really for dynamic microphones or for passive Ribbon microphones.
@@TheGearCage hey thanks for responding i just wasn't sure since I had to turn it up to a pretty high input level
Could you use this as an in -between between slate vms to interface to stop the noise from using two preamps?
That's kinda hard to say, because he said it does add color, and the neutrality of the mice and line-in would be altered. Thus, the emulation would be off.
If you wanted to use it, I think you'll have to run a line-out to the cloud lifter, and then another line-in, if that makes sense.
What is the equivalent product for guitars? I feel like this might be an issue with guitars too. It's suggested to increase the gain to the point that the audio interface doesn't clip. However, when you do so, you raise the noise floor too and it's clearly audible as hizzing, noise, static sound. So, what can be done in this case?
Hey Dennis, thanks for watching! There sort of is a way to do this. If you look for a guitar preamp you can do something similar, or an Active DI with a gain circuit would also do something similar. You could also get a 500 series product and use a DI on that to go into the interface.
@@TheGearCage Hi, thanks for the reply. So, this is why some people use stuff like the Lehle Sunday Driver in front of the audio interface. I just googled it again and it seems to be a preamp. I will research more about this! Thank you!
good info, thanks!
would you get something out of the cloudlifter with a rme baby face blue or pro fs
Yeah absolutely!
Will this work with a condenser mic
No, because it doesn’t pass phantom power. Good question though!
Been using the sm7b with the CL1 and the focusrite scarlett solo (2nd gen), I now have no sound from the mic. Cables have been changed/checked (OK). Any other troubleshooting thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Did you Turn Phantom Power on?
You'll have to turn 48v Phantom power on.
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*Great informative review 👍 ✨ ✨ ✨*
Very good info. Thanks
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!
Roadcaster pro = 55 db gain, cloudlifter CL-1 = 25 DB can I add another cloudlifter for an extra 25 db with the same signal chain going to the sm7b ? Someone please respond
Good question. You can only add one. That should give you plenty of gain though.
@@TheGearCage do you know of a way I can connect another DAW to the roadcaster with an additional cloudlifter just in case I needed more gain on the sm7b
Hey i just got a SM7B to use with a cloudlifter into my Apollo Twin USB. I bought the mic in order to record vocals and mostly for pop music (which means a lot of compression:). Here's the issue... the noise floor is insanely high and despite preamp level there's always a high white noise type sound in the recordings.
I've tried without the cloudlifter, different xlr cables, with the monitors and lights turned off, different preamps / with uads clean preamp, different mic and cable positions around the room… but no matter what i try the noise is still there. It wouldn't have been an issue if the noise did not compete with the vocals in the mix… i’m using a gate to mitigate it but of course it’s not a proper solution.
I’m really desperate here guys and would love if any of you could help me out! Thanks!
*I’v been recording a lot with a neumann tlm 102 without any issues so the preamp in the apollo itself and cabels should be fine*
Hey Wanye Kest, congrats on your presidential run! In all seriousness let me know if you’re still having issues.
it could be your computer generating an electrical noise. try with a different pc or a laptop not plugged in and plugged in. I had a desktop pc that added electrical noise to my 2i4 and I noticed my old laptop used to do that sometimes when the charger was connected and sometimes when the charger wasn't. I changed the pc and it doesnt do that. so maybe try a different pc. ****[just saying]
I own a Sony a7iii, a zoom h6, sennheiser mke 600 shotgun mic. Would a cloudlifter help me get more gain w less a noise floor? I feel like around 7 on the gain from the zoom is where is starts to get noisy. I was hoping this would help. Thank you
Great question. The Cloudlifter would definitely help with this exact situation. You won’t need to run the H6’s preamps with nearly as much gain.
@@TheGearCage awesome thanks! That's what I thought. I've heard 2 opinions otherwise but from my research this device would help.
@@TheGearCage I know the cloudlifter is for dynamic and ribbon mics. So I was just curious if would be affective with my condenser shotgun mic.
We’ll that is a good point. The cloudlifter won’t pass phantom power. That’s not always a dealbreaker though. For instance, the Rode NTG4+ is battery powered so you could use a Cloudlifter to boost gain. Otherwise you’d have to have a phantom power box post Cloudlifter which is another workaround.
The other solution is just to get a higher end external preamp with more clean gain.
Thanks!
great video!
Thanks for watching and the kind words!
It still doesn't make any sense why the XLR audio interface manufacturers can't integrate a signal booster stage inside their equipment. The Cloudlifter needs to be powered anyway by the audio interface, and that power consumption comes from the usb port in the computer. There is just no excuse to have to buy an extra power stage to add to another power stage.
The newest interfaces do actually do much better, but like anything else it comes down to dollars and cents.
it does well job
Instead of paying for an audio interface with garbage preamp and paying extra for dedicated preamp that also cannibalizes on 48v phantom power, it is wiser to pay for an interface with quality preamp.
You gotta do an unbiased review. You started talking louder with more energy when you switched to Cloudlifter
Or, you could argue that having the extra gain gave it more headroom/energy.
Without the 'Cloudlifter' , you sound better.
4:15
Very good I liked this video yes!!!!👍😅
Thanks so much for watching!
4:17 to me the noise is quite notable
I think you can hear a little bit of noise if you have the volume turned completely up in RUclips. At normal volumes it shouldn't be that recognizable. Interestingly enough, I can hear a little bit of noise on my 16" MacBook Pro speakers, but nothing really through my studio monitors/headphones/or LG widescreen speakers when completely turned up.
It might have something to do with the optimization/DSP in the laptop speakers. So many variables when it comes back to audio playback these days.
when you switched i heard a consistent hiss noise
So...after you insert the CloudLifter....you speak closer and louder into the microphone....hhmmm
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