During the liberation of Paris, and art curator was nearly hanged as a collaborator because he had assisted the Germans in selecting what artwork to steal. He convinced the mob to come to his house where in the basement he had stored numerous famous paintings. Turns out he was pretty good at forging, and had been making copies of paintings to give to the Germans while saving the originals lol
Han van Meegeren. He was Dutch, not French, and he sold a few fake Rembrandts (that he had been forging before the war) to the Organization Rosenburg, the main art theft division. He also made a fortune off of the legit stuff he was helping to pass to the top brass. So he actually was a collaborator, but he was also really good at talking his way out of trouble.
@RJStockton ehh, calling someone who ripped off the germans as much as they helped them a collaborator isn't really fair. He was nothing more than a ruthless capitalist.
@@RJStockton I think the story we're groping toward here is Han van Meegeren selling a forged Vermeer to Hermann Goering. He was put on trial for collaboration on the theory that it was a real Vermeer. In order to support his claim that it was a forgery he had sold, van Meegeren was given the necessary materials and given a chance to produce another fake Vermeer in his cell, essentially painting for his life as the collaboration charge could have been punished by death. When he succeeded he became a national hero for having ripped off Goering. There was collateral damage to the reputation of art experts, however, as he had fooled some of those who had testified for the prosecution with his other forgeries.
I love Robert Picardo so bloody much. He doesn't stretch like a Daniel Day Lewis, but good lord he GETS those words. Every production he is in is better for him being in it.
He's one of those actors who'll never be a star but will be memorable in his scenes, sometimes long after the movie's title as faded away. Like this scene - I probably won't remember the series, or the star, but I'll remember this setting and his dialog. Jars of 'old paintings'. Delivered with a quiet intensity that seems far more truthful.
Agreed. Very underrated actor. I feel whatever character he plays he brings a grounded reality to them. They're not exaggerated or hammed up, just played delicately.
He effortlessly goes between smarmy and unlikeable, to sympathetic. Sometimes, in the same sentence. It’s really amazing how he can make you despise, or love whatever character he’s playing with a shift in his tone of voice.
I love the layers of artistic irony going on: First, he's cremating Hitler's paintings. Second, there's no plaque explaining the jars of ashes - meaning that the truth about the ashes is a secret only sparingly revealed and intended to eventually be lost to time and covered up. Third, he didn't just throw the ashes away - Displaying the ashes in an art installation in the center of his private gallery is an act of dominance over Hitler and his ideology of dominance. Fourth, certifying geniune paintings by Hitler as fakes and destroying them and fake Hitler paintings as geniune will eventually erase Hitler from his own artistic legacy and reinforce the historical perception of Hitler as an artistic mediocrity at best. Fifth, this personal project to destroy Hitler's artistic legacy runs the risk of destroying this art appraiser's entire career should it ever come out. If he revrals the truth in his will after he dies, it will cast doubt on the value of all the paintings he certified. Especially the fake Hitlers. Sixth, as the number of authentic Hitler paintings gradually decreases, their value only goes up. And the ashes in the installation itself will become valuable to "fans" of Hitler. And yet there is only an implication that the ashes in those jars are of Hitler's paintings. They very well could be ashes of his own paintings made with the correct ink and aged canvases. Which would also make the installation an act of usurpation against Hitler should the ashes ever be stolen and sold. 9. There is not a SPECK of dust on those shelves. This is rhe trophy case of a man who is PROUD of his achievements.
@@Grizabeebles When Bukowski speaks of hatred being pure, being true. This scene speaks of that so well, the part about there being ZERO dust around them I missed the many many times I've seen this scene. You're so correct there. It would require more than a little effort with that, effort that was for himself for his hate. It's a dark perspective but dark does not mean negative, to say that his hatred is a truth that speaks out larger than others. There's truth there, real truth... not that crap we deal with daily.
The parallels between these two characters is pretty cool. Raylan chose law enforcement. This guy chose art. Both hated their fathers and both chose their profession because of them.
Indeed brother. Raylan doesn’t just see the parallel between himself and the auctioneer/artist, but he also sees what could potentially become of himself. The auctioneer is a man (understandably) consumed by his hatred of his own father, going through great pains and expenditures to proverbially spit on the man’s grave. While Raylan comes around to the guy and eventually respects him by the end of the episode, he sees what could very easily become his own future if he doesn’t let go of Arlo’s grasp.
@@KingKhanate1997 he teeters at the end. People need to realize Boyd is basically Raylan, except that his aunt didn't give him money to go to college. When Boyd tries to redeem himself, Rayland kicks him down. Raylan also peg Boyd as nothing but a thief and Boyd gave in to fill in the role everyone has given him. Raylan is no angel and as far as I'm concern , is a bad cop.. He shoots up property of Dewey Crow, threaten people all the time. he slept with someone one he is suppose to protect, AVA, and got involve with a case he shouldn't He has bias against Boyd, and you should step away when you do. several times he almost shot people he shouldn't Dickie Bennet and Boyd. sense came to him with Dickie. Boyd showed Raylan his real face which stopped him.
@@slewone4905 Shows have a way of making you like the villains. Boyd is a murderer, a thief, a con man and whatever other criminal name you can think of. So no, shooting him wasn't unjustified.
@@1974spr Its unjustified if you have the means to take him out without killing him/hurting him, but choose violence/death. Something Americans fail everytime to understand.
He was truly great on Star Trek Voyager. It was a good show, but what held it back from being great, like TNG and DS9 was that the writes didn't seem to know what to do with most of the characters. Thankfully, his character, the Doctor, was one of the few that did get a lot of character-growth and screen-time ... we kinda lucked out there!
I first saw him in China Beach, and thought he was such an a-hole ... but his character developed, and I grew used to him ... then came Voyager, and he went right back to a-hole mode lol
I like how the "Do you understand?" is twofold. One - Because of the way Raylan DOES understand the hatred of the father, but also two - WHY he said that the paintings were fake and how he knew so much about Hitler's old paintings - tying into the first part of the clip. Good writing.
Don't forget the symbolism of burning the paintings. "Wherever books are burned, men also, in the end, are burned." - Heinrich Heine - 19th century Jewish German poet
@@gjpokey Hitler's bullshit landscape homework assignments aren't literature. Nobody is burning an idea here. Its only value is as a relic of a satanic saint, and the right thing to do is to destroy that. You can still read his shitty book.
@@gjpokey Also, Hitler was responsible for reducing millions of Jews literally to ashes in the concentration camps... so reducing Hitler's paintings to ash
That was the moment I knew that it was something good, wearing the hat inside was a sign of disrespect from the start. As soon as he saw the jars, his mind started to change and he took his hat off. Subtle, but powerful. I love this show
"my god, i only hope to one day reach the levels of SPITE this fictional character is displaying here" -- Yes, yes....let the hate flow through you! But, what, or who, would be the target of that spite?
@luismanuel3137 the definition of spite is when you deliberately set out to anger or hurt someone. Considering Picardo's motivation, I'd say it's an apt description. His father is not alive, but metaphorically Picardo is doing it because his father would have hated it. Spite doesn't always have to mean unjustified
@@Shadesight , while I do not espouse the rewriting of history, erasing as much of that unbelievably corrupt "human being" as possible is a worthy goal.
It's a testament to Picardo that you aren't _exactly_ sure of what direction the speech is going to until it happens. Though I think the wardrobe department might take some credit for that as well...
I did a school project comparing artwork by Churchill, Eisenhower, and Hitler. This character gives a pretty accurate critique of Hitler’s artistic skills and choice of subject. Got to appreciate the attention to detail from the writers.
I actually took a history class recently that went over political theory and they used a lot of art to emphasize the cultural focus of certain movements. Fascist inspired art has always focused on objects. Motor cars, planes, city scapes. Humanity is pushed aside as “things” are highlighted and relished. Very interesting.
@@vancemcneil9716 This is not to start a flamewar/shitstorm: have you ever read the CIA's Hitler Psych analysis? Its amazing, even tho its almost 80 years old (afaik). Also, Not sure if Hitler was an antisocial type (haven't updated on DSM for a while), he strikes as more of the psychopath (without a marked antisocial trait). Its also really funny that @Spicylemons490 and you remarked this (the whole 'inhuman' view of the world), because according to some History teachers, Hitler had no politics (they usually refer to him as a racial anarchist). Just my two cents or sumptin'. Cheers!
@@spicylemons490 It's scenes and ideas like this that inform my own art; I'm strong on people, animals, plants, and landscapes, and very weak on cities, buildings, and cars. Except that fabrics fall under things I'm good at, as do belts, jewelry, and so on. The few teachers I had always described my art as "empathetic" and "very life-centered," so that fits.
I would back that Patreon in a heartbeat. I don't care if only one video came out in my lifetime, I would listen to it crackle and burn every night as I go to sleep.
I'd have him do that with the last one he can confirm. The last, because no Hitler enthusiast or art snob sufficiently unempathetic to disregard just why Hitler's name is so (in)famous would sell him another one. No, his burning the final Hitler painting, then explaining to the viewer as he has to Raylan in this clip would be the best, last spit upon his father. It would make him rich and likely famous.
I think my favorite part of this is that he didn't do it because Hitler did the paintings. He did it because he hated his father. Not every significant effort has to be centered around some great motivation. Sometimes, you can just do stuff out of spite.
One thing he says that makes me think he actually hated Hitler is when he said well... its in the tittle of the video, he probably hated his father because of his affiliation to Hitler.
@@MoogleMog I have no doubt he hated Hitler. Most rational people do. The story he told was about his father's proudest moment. He didn't try to destroy everything Hitler had, just the part that mattered to his father.
And also probably because his father kept a few of Der Fuehrer’s paintings and probably showed more care and attention to them rather than his own son.
I love how Raylan keeps his hat on, while even indoors as he has a level for disdain for the man. However, as soon as he sees the truth he immediately takes his hat off as a sign of respect. Edit: Can you shut up in the comments below bickering about whether or not it’s a sign of disrespect to wear a hat indoors. My point was for the CHARACTER Raylan, it is. So just fucking relax.
Beat me to it. That whole scene brought a tear to my eyes. These folks today need to watch this. But they also need to learn that as evil as fascism is, they'd choose it every day of the week and twice on Sundays over Communism if they truly understood how evil Communism is. And most need to learn that fascism is in fact a left wing ideology.
I honestly don't know if I would have realized that or not without reading your comment So therefore I completely thank you for that insight And I'm gonna reflect upon it Also I'm being completely serious and sincere Take care !
I love Robert Picardo, he's one helluva character actor - always knows the character and brings his charm to them. And this was one great way to end his guest appearance on Justified.
Yes. This is one of the reasons I love this scene. It's almost impossible for a TV show to accomplish a "wow" without killing a main character, anymore, due to poor writing.
Dude, talk about fantasy wish fulfillment. That each jar is dedicated to the ashes of a painting he's destroyed is just *chef's kiss*. The person who wrote this script must have been laughing with glee the entire time.
Well, it is technically true and still possible to do. Channel 4 still does it in fact (burning his paintings has been a thing since the 60s). Most of Hiters painting are really cheap to buy, like 3$ cheap.
I hope each jar is carefully labeled with the name/title of the painting, the date it was finished (or as close an approximation as he can make)...and the day it was reduced to ash~
@@AllyMonstersMost of Hitlers paintings are sitting in a government warehouse somewhere due to having the dubious honor of being too historically significant to destroy but not culturally significant enough to display. Hitlers artwork was almost exclusively tourist pieces, milled out to be sold on Vienna streets to visitors so he could pay rent.
He reminds me of Joseph Zilber, the guy who bought all of Jeffrey Dahmers belongings and destroyed them. He wanted Milwaukee to be rid of his presence completely and didn't want his stuff to become memorabilia for macab collectors.
I've seen Picardo in other stuff than Voyager, but dang! The people on Voyager knew they had an incredible actor, and put Doctor through all sorts story arcs.
Honestly, this is the moment that signified for me that this show was going to be more than just a police procedural with Raylan chasing a new bad guy every week.
@@carcarcool6262 Without his paints, one aspect of himself with fade from memory. You're real about them, but will never see the paintings or the effort he put into them. No, Hitler would not be happy about one obsessive person burning them.
Never seen "genocide" used as a verb before. Admittedly, "on whom he committed genocide" is a bit clunky, but "the victims of his genocide" would be better.
@@krieginphernjacobson He doesn't need to, he's correct, genocide cannot be used as a verb, at least as long as you're concerned with using the English language properly.
Hell yeah brother Picardo is an amazing actor. Loved him in both those roles and now I'm going to have to see the new justified. I didn't know he was in it so super treat for me!
"Then I use the ash to repaint them, perfectly, in tones of gray. You want to know what I do with those new paintings, Marshal?" **they proceed into another room filled with shelves of slightly smaller jars of ash**
@@vsmicer I saw a brilliant comment regarding if Hitler ever did anything good in his time, and one person pointed out. "Well he did shoot Hitler" So I thank you for doing that dance in celebration lol
Great scene. Seeing the jars was as he neared the end of his story was spectacular. The writer wrote a great scene and the actor owned it perfectly. 👏👏👏
I've always liked this scene as Raylan of all people can appreciate hating who your father is and wanting to do whatever you can to destroy his legacy.
This man is a hero. By destroying Hitler's paintings he is punishing Hitler for his desecration of culture and history with his book burnings while simultaneously ensuring that the only thing Hitler can be remembered for is his atrocities. If the paintings were still there the possibility would exist for them to be discovered at a time when the holocaust has been forgotten resulting in a world where one of histories greatest monsters is remembered only for his artwork.
@@Grayald I am not saying that is why he did it. I am simply saying that by destroying all of Hitler's art he has had the side effect of ensuring that Hitler would not be remembered as some artist in the extremely unlikely event that his atrocities were forgotten. Obviously this is just some fictional story so it doesn't really matter and his motives were all about undoing his father's greatest moments as a supporter of the Nazi Reich because he hated his father. But in the universe of the show Hitler's artworks have been destroyed which does mean that a thousand years down the line after 40-50 generations, when people may have forgotten Hitler either as a result of historical records being lost or destroyed or far greater horrors being enacted, there will be no Hitler artwork to rediscover resulting in this forgotten monster being remembered as an artist. Preventing that possibility makes him some kind of hero not much of one but he did do something even if it was for petty revenge against his father.
If there would become a time where "Hitler is only known for his artwork", he wouldn't be known at all, because the only reason his paintings have value IS because of the artist, not because of any inherent quality. The only service this guy provides to the world is that he buys up paintings that otherwise might be used as some kind of "artifacts" for Nazis all around the world. For these people, these paintings are invaluable.
It's modern progrevism to a tee. Hate someone (his father in this case). Stew in that hatred. Do something petty and spiteful against that person. Pretend like it's a heroic act.
Just such a cool concept in general, a character so hateful towards someone that long after their death he dedicates a portion of his life to erasing a portion of their history. Great monologue btw.
The first time I ever saw Robert Picardo was in "Innerspace". He played The Cowboy and had an accent that I always thought was real. It wasn't until adulthood when I figured out that he was played by the same guy in "Gremlins 2"!
I've never seen this show but that scene is pure gold. Robert Picardo has a fantastic range as an actor. He's most famous as the holographic Doctor on Voyager but he's done done a lot of wild roles and always pulls it off.
@DragonJohn It's even better if you saw a scene that came before from earlier in the episode. In the scene, Raylan and his boss are up front in a car with the art collector in the back seat, driving him back to the airport. Earlier in the episode they had brought him to assess the paintings, which were part of a seizure and they needed a Hitler art expert to determine their authenticity, and he had declared the paintings fake but didn't give a reason why. He had seemed almost disappointed at the time, and afterwards in the car Raylan and his boss up front talk to each other about what kind of sick twisted freak would collect Hitler paintings, indirectly referring to the art collector as he listens from the back. The whole time he just sits there looking out the window with a wry little smile on his face...they had the completely wrong idea about him the whole time.
Robert Picardo guest starred in my nightmares for more than 20 years as Eddie Quist from The Howling. Downsides of watching an epic monster movie entirely too young, I guess. Fantastic actor, but every time he smiles, my flesh crawls just a bit to this days all these years later looking at him.
I always remembered this storyline, and this twist, that he was buying the paintings to destroy them, but I'd forgotten it was Robert Picardo in the role. ❤
@@jessicaregina1956 Depends on what you value. For a lot of people, watching those things burn is well worth the price of a painting. Besides, it's not like a painting by Hitler would have any value due to it's contributions to the art world.
That seems like an stupid destruction of historic pieces over some petty virtue signaling. Like the guys sucks, and im very sad the Red army didnt get to him in time to do as they pleased, but destroying historical pieces because of it? Might as well also destroy anything from the Roman empire, Napoleon's France, Greece, etc. There is even a museum of Racist Memorabilia that preserves racist propaganda from the Jim Crow era, the fact is kept as historic pieces doesnt mean is condining the actions they are related to. I draw the line at destruction of historic pieces on the principle of historic preservation, we already have too few things from history to be destroying more of them over virtue signaling.
Thank you!!!! My family own many of his paintings and all will get more valuable. Great work. I am not rich enough to burn money to achieve this but you must be. LOVE IT!!! Thanks again.
You know, I have always viewed collecting art as something akin to being an expensive car or an overly expensive watch. Something people do just to brag and to feel like they are a big man. But this? *This* is something I can really appreciate!
I watched this clip twice back-to-back, not because I thought I might have missed something, but because it is so good. The depth of meaning here cannot be calculated.
He absolutely made that role a standout for that show. I dislike Voyager as a whole, but whenever the Doctor had an episode centered on them, it was always fantastic.
no its not. no one MADE hitler become a genocidal dictator. he CHOSE to do that. using your logic every kid who was bullied should become a school shooter
Robert Picardo is a very underrated actor. I first noticed him in a small role on TV, and I've been watching and listening to his cultured voice ever since. If there is something that has him in it, I will watch, even if it's not something I normally pay attention to. Reading his filmography one day, I was blown away to see that he played the role of the werewolf / serial-killer Eddie Quist in "The Howling".
I never watched Justified. I clicked because Robert Picardo was on Star Trek (and the Wonder Years!). My question (and this may be a biased audience), should I watch this show? It’s like 15-20 years old, does it hold up?
It is one of the greatest shows in television history. Some seasons are better than others, but the main thread of the show is perfection, from start to finish. I won't watch the new one, because I regret doing it with X-Files.
There is just something so elegant about that. He doesn't burn them and throw the ashes in the dust bin. Each one is kept in its own labeled jar. Priceless.
I like that I saw this out of context n thought it was a very cool moment but for Raylan, a man who is about to go to war to put his own father away for good it's more a sobering moment. Like this art dealer has spent his life screwing over his asshole father even after his death he continues just to desecrate what his father thought sacred and Raylan sees this and tells Boyd to back off and not find something on Arlo because he doesn't wanna expend the effort and let his life be defined more than it already is by Arlo. What a show.
That's what I love about it. Clipping it this way sort of presents it as a Fuck Yeah moment but Raylan's reaction isn't just respect for how much this dude hates his dad, it's reflection on how fucked up his own feud with his Dad could leave him and realization that maybe he should stop obsessing before it defines his entire life like this guy. then the scene with Boyd you mentioned, when in true Raylan fashion after drawing the boundary that he's not going to go after Arlo, literally seconds later Boyd presents him with something he can't help but bite
During the liberation of Paris, and art curator was nearly hanged as a collaborator because he had assisted the Germans in selecting what artwork to steal. He convinced the mob to come to his house where in the basement he had stored numerous famous paintings. Turns out he was pretty good at forging, and had been making copies of paintings to give to the Germans while saving the originals lol
Legend, that one.
Han van Meegeren. He was Dutch, not French, and he sold a few fake Rembrandts (that he had been forging before the war) to the Organization Rosenburg, the main art theft division. He also made a fortune off of the legit stuff he was helping to pass to the top brass. So he actually was a collaborator, but he was also really good at talking his way out of trouble.
@RJStockton ehh, calling someone who ripped off the germans as much as they helped them a collaborator isn't really fair. He was nothing more than a ruthless capitalist.
@@RJStockton I think the story we're groping toward here is Han van Meegeren selling a forged Vermeer to Hermann Goering. He was put on trial for collaboration on the theory that it was a real Vermeer. In order to support his claim that it was a forgery he had sold, van Meegeren was given the necessary materials and given a chance to produce another fake Vermeer in his cell, essentially painting for his life as the collaboration charge could have been punished by death. When he succeeded he became a national hero for having ripped off Goering. There was collateral damage to the reputation of art experts, however, as he had fooled some of those who had testified for the prosecution with his other forgeries.
@@Gr3nadgr3gory That's not what capitalism is. He wasn't pooling investments to direct resources toward a purpose, he was selling fake and stolen art.
One of the few moments, I suspect, that the good Marshall Givens didn't see that one coming.
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I mean, "Raylan is taken by surprise" is a pretty normal theme in Justified.
I love Robert Picardo so bloody much. He doesn't stretch like a Daniel Day Lewis, but good lord he GETS those words. Every production he is in is better for him being in it.
Ain't nobody can touch DDL, but Roberto comes damn close. He has such a wonderful voice, and he knows how to use it.
He's one of those actors who'll never be a star but will be memorable in his scenes, sometimes long after the movie's title as faded away. Like this scene - I probably won't remember the series, or the star, but I'll remember this setting and his dialog. Jars of 'old paintings'. Delivered with a quiet intensity that seems far more truthful.
Agreed. Very underrated actor. I feel whatever character he plays he brings a grounded reality to them. They're not exaggerated or hammed up, just played delicately.
He effortlessly goes between smarmy and unlikeable, to sympathetic. Sometimes, in the same sentence. It’s really amazing how he can make you despise, or love whatever character he’s playing with a shift in his tone of voice.
To be fair; first > it has to be in the script before the actor can deliver the character.
The look on Raylan's face when he sees the jars. The audience doesn't know what he's seeing but we know it's the unexpected. Love it.
He literally takes his hat off. A sign of respect.
I love the layers of artistic irony going on:
First, he's cremating Hitler's paintings.
Second, there's no plaque explaining the jars of ashes - meaning that the truth about the ashes is a secret only sparingly revealed and intended to eventually be lost to time and covered up.
Third, he didn't just throw the ashes away - Displaying the ashes in an art installation in the center of his private gallery is an act of dominance over Hitler and his ideology of dominance.
Fourth, certifying geniune paintings by Hitler as fakes and destroying them and fake Hitler paintings as geniune will eventually erase Hitler from his own artistic legacy and reinforce the historical perception of Hitler as an artistic mediocrity at best.
Fifth, this personal project to destroy Hitler's artistic legacy runs the risk of destroying this art appraiser's entire career should it ever come out. If he revrals the truth in his will after he dies, it will cast doubt on the value of all the paintings he certified. Especially the fake Hitlers.
Sixth, as the number of authentic Hitler paintings gradually decreases, their value only goes up. And the ashes in the installation itself will become valuable to "fans" of Hitler. And yet there is only an implication that the ashes in those jars are of Hitler's paintings. They very well could be ashes of his own paintings made with the correct ink and aged canvases. Which would also make the installation an act of usurpation against Hitler should the ashes ever be stolen and sold.
9. There is not a SPECK of dust on those shelves. This is rhe trophy case of a man who is PROUD of his achievements.
@@GrizabeeblesSic Semper Tyrannis I suppose.
@@Grizabeebles When Bukowski speaks of hatred being pure, being true. This scene speaks of that so well, the part about there being ZERO dust around them I missed the many many times I've seen this scene.
You're so correct there. It would require more than a little effort with that, effort that was for himself for his hate.
It's a dark perspective but dark does not mean negative, to say that his hatred is a truth that speaks out larger than others. There's truth there, real truth... not that crap we deal with daily.
@@Grizabeeblesyou need to post this as a main comment. It's well written. 🎉 very pocket sand
The parallels between these two characters is pretty cool. Raylan chose law enforcement. This guy chose art. Both hated their fathers and both chose their profession because of them.
Indeed brother. Raylan doesn’t just see the parallel between himself and the auctioneer/artist, but he also sees what could potentially become of himself. The auctioneer is a man (understandably) consumed by his hatred of his own father, going through great pains and expenditures to proverbially spit on the man’s grave.
While Raylan comes around to the guy and eventually respects him by the end of the episode, he sees what could very easily become his own future if he doesn’t let go of Arlo’s grasp.
@@KingKhanate1997 he teeters at the end. People need to realize Boyd is basically Raylan, except that his aunt didn't give him money to go to college.
When Boyd tries to redeem himself, Rayland kicks him down. Raylan also peg Boyd as nothing but a thief and Boyd gave in to fill in the role everyone has given him.
Raylan is no angel and as far as I'm concern , is a bad cop.. He shoots up property of Dewey Crow, threaten people all the time. he slept with someone one he is suppose to protect, AVA, and got involve with a case he shouldn't He has bias against Boyd, and you should step away when you do.
several times he almost shot people he shouldn't Dickie Bennet and Boyd.
sense came to him with Dickie. Boyd showed Raylan his real face which stopped him.
@@slewone4905 Shows have a way of making you like the villains. Boyd is a murderer, a thief, a con man and whatever other criminal name you can think of. So no, shooting him wasn't unjustified.
Oh, nice analysis.
@@1974spr Its unjustified if you have the means to take him out without killing him/hurting him, but choose violence/death. Something Americans fail everytime to understand.
robert picardo is one of the best actors, and i don't say that with exaggeration, he is truly fantastic.
Wonderful actor and person.
He’s so good an actor people don’t realise how good an actor he is.
True, he really is.
He was truly great on Star Trek Voyager. It was a good show, but what held it back from being great, like TNG and DS9 was that the writes didn't seem to know what to do with most of the characters.
Thankfully, his character, the Doctor, was one of the few that did get a lot of character-growth and screen-time ... we kinda lucked out there!
I first saw him in China Beach, and thought he was such an a-hole ... but his character developed, and I grew used to him ... then came Voyager, and he went right back to a-hole mode lol
I like how the "Do you understand?" is twofold.
One - Because of the way Raylan DOES understand the hatred of the father, but also two - WHY he said that the paintings were fake and how he knew so much about Hitler's old paintings - tying into the first part of the clip.
Good writing.
Don't forget the symbolism of burning the paintings. "Wherever books are burned, men also, in the end, are burned." - Heinrich Heine - 19th century Jewish German poet
@@gjpokey Hitler's bullshit landscape homework assignments aren't literature. Nobody is burning an idea here. Its only value is as a relic of a satanic saint, and the right thing to do is to destroy that. You can still read his shitty book.
@@gjpokey Also, Hitler was responsible for reducing millions of Jews literally to ashes in the concentration camps... so reducing Hitler's paintings to ash
@@gjpokeysymbolically burning Hitler?
Honestly, claiming they're fake to buy them on the cheap can easily be interpreted as a way to call Hitler a cheap artist. This guy's good.
Love how Raylan takes off his hat in respect when he realizes this dude has as much smoke for his own father as Raylan does. 😂
That was the moment I knew that it was something good, wearing the hat inside was a sign of disrespect from the start. As soon as he saw the jars, his mind started to change and he took his hat off. Subtle, but powerful. I love this show
I never noticed that till i read this post. NEVER. Now i cant unsee it. perfect.
my god, i only hope to one day reach the levels of SPITE this fictional character is displaying here
Sense of Justice of righting the wrongs of his father? Doing something because he can instead of walking away and not changing a thing.
You should see what holocaust survivors and their families get up to.
@@superslash7254I’m not sure spite is the right word for that my guy. More like making sure people don’t minimize atrocities
"my god, i only hope to one day reach the levels of SPITE this fictional character is displaying here" -- Yes, yes....let the hate flow through you! But, what, or who, would be the target of that spite?
@luismanuel3137 the definition of spite is when you deliberately set out to anger or hurt someone. Considering Picardo's motivation, I'd say it's an apt description. His father is not alive, but metaphorically Picardo is doing it because his father would have hated it.
Spite doesn't always have to mean unjustified
Karl: Do you understand?
Raylan: I think I do. Computer, deactivate EMH.
Karl: Now wait a --
"Computer fire photonic cannon"
The folks don't know it, but this was another holodeck episode.
Scene pixelates and fades.
Holofilter drops, revealing Raylan to be Tom Paris.
"Please state the nature of the medical emergency."
"I... I don't know what that means, Marshall."
"Sure you do... Doctor."
I about spewed my coffee, thank you lmao
There's a certain pettiness to this that I can't help but appreciate.
The kind of pettiness that one should aspire to, I think.
@@Shadesight , while I do not espouse the rewriting of history, erasing as much of that unbelievably corrupt "human being" as possible is a worthy goal.
I feel it shouldn't count as pettiness if it's directed towards Hitler 😂
@@TheKosstImogenYou a Hitler simp?
@@Ralnonbut that is the point, erasing history is wrong, that is something the Nazis would do.
So why stoop to such standards.
It's a testament to Picardo that you aren't _exactly_ sure of what direction the speech is going to until it happens. Though I think the wardrobe department might take some credit for that as well...
Picardo is so good at conversational pivots.
I did a school project comparing artwork by Churchill, Eisenhower, and Hitler. This character gives a pretty accurate critique of Hitler’s artistic skills and choice of subject. Got to appreciate the attention to detail from the writers.
I actually took a history class recently that went over political theory and they used a lot of art to emphasize the cultural focus of certain movements. Fascist inspired art has always focused on objects. Motor cars, planes, city scapes. Humanity is pushed aside as “things” are highlighted and relished. Very interesting.
@@spicylemons490 Antisocial personality types are typically characterized by a lack of empathy, so this makes total sense.
@@vancemcneil9716 This is not to start a flamewar/shitstorm: have you ever read the CIA's Hitler Psych analysis? Its amazing, even tho its almost 80 years old (afaik). Also, Not sure if Hitler was an antisocial type (haven't updated on DSM for a while), he strikes as more of the psychopath (without a marked antisocial trait).
Its also really funny that @Spicylemons490 and you remarked this (the whole 'inhuman' view of the world), because according to some History teachers, Hitler had no politics (they usually refer to him as a racial anarchist). Just my two cents or sumptin'.
Cheers!
@@spicylemons490 It's scenes and ideas like this that inform my own art; I'm strong on people, animals, plants, and landscapes, and very weak on cities, buildings, and cars. Except that fabrics fall under things I'm good at, as do belts, jewelry, and so on.
The few teachers I had always described my art as "empathetic" and "very life-centered," so that fits.
@@BronzeDragon133virtue signal received
...You know,, if he filmed himself burning the painting, and the jars? He'd probably make millions on the art circuit.
That's brilliant.
I would back that Patreon in a heartbeat. I don't care if only one video came out in my lifetime, I would listen to it crackle and burn every night as I go to sleep.
Bit derivative of 'The K Foundation Burn A Million Quid,' some might say, but I'd give it a watch!
I'd have him do that with the last one he can confirm. The last, because no Hitler enthusiast or art snob sufficiently unempathetic to disregard just why Hitler's name is so (in)famous would sell him another one. No, his burning the final Hitler painting, then explaining to the viewer as he has to Raylan in this clip would be the best, last spit upon his father. It would make him rich and likely famous.
Men of principle are typically unconcerned with money.
I think my favorite part of this is that he didn't do it because Hitler did the paintings. He did it because he hated his father. Not every significant effort has to be centered around some great motivation. Sometimes, you can just do stuff out of spite.
One thing he says that makes me think he actually hated Hitler is when he said well... its in the tittle of the video, he probably hated his father because of his affiliation to Hitler.
@@MoogleMog I have no doubt he hated Hitler. Most rational people do. The story he told was about his father's proudest moment. He didn't try to destroy everything Hitler had, just the part that mattered to his father.
And also probably because his father kept a few of Der Fuehrer’s paintings and probably showed more care and attention to them rather than his own son.
I love how Raylan keeps his hat on, while even indoors as he has a level for disdain for the man. However, as soon as he sees the truth he immediately takes his hat off as a sign of respect.
Edit: Can you shut up in the comments below bickering about whether or not it’s a sign of disrespect to wear a hat indoors. My point was for the CHARACTER Raylan, it is. So just fucking relax.
Maybe a sign of respect, or the recognition of a kindred spirit. Aligned in total opposition to the father he hated.
Beat me to it. That whole scene brought a tear to my eyes. These folks today need to watch this. But they also need to learn that as evil as fascism is, they'd choose it every day of the week and twice on Sundays over Communism if they truly understood how evil Communism is. And most need to learn that fascism is in fact a left wing ideology.
Excellent catch.
Good eye
I honestly don't know if I would have realized that or not without reading your comment So therefore I completely thank you for that insight And I'm gonna reflect upon it Also I'm being completely serious and sincere Take care !
I love Robert Picardo, he's one helluva character actor - always knows the character and brings his charm to them. And this was one great way to end his guest appearance on Justified.
What are you talking about? This was just the end of one of The Doctors holonovels he was messing around in.
@@saucyl3477 😂
@@saucyl3477 Captain Janeway was always worried the good Doctor spent too much time with those holonovels
I like how at the end, the guy turns to look at the deputy, who jerks his gaze away, like a freshly scorned pupil who realizes how wrong he was.
You get so few wow moments on TV anymore , this is one....NICE...
Yes. This is one of the reasons I love this scene. It's almost impossible for a TV show to accomplish a "wow" without killing a main character, anymore, due to poor writing.
And Bob Picardo delivers so well in it
Dude, talk about fantasy wish fulfillment. That each jar is dedicated to the ashes of a painting he's destroyed is just *chef's kiss*. The person who wrote this script must have been laughing with glee the entire time.
Well, it is technically true and still possible to do. Channel 4 still does it in fact (burning his paintings has been a thing since the 60s). Most of Hiters painting are really cheap to buy, like 3$ cheap.
I hope each jar is carefully labeled with the name/title of the painting, the date it was finished (or as close an approximation as he can make)...and the day it was reduced to ash~
@@AllyMonstersMost of Hitlers paintings are sitting in a government warehouse somewhere due to having the dubious honor of being too historically significant to destroy but not culturally significant enough to display. Hitlers artwork was almost exclusively tourist pieces, milled out to be sold on Vienna streets to visitors so he could pay rent.
He reminds me of Joseph Zilber, the guy who bought all of Jeffrey Dahmers belongings and destroyed them. He wanted Milwaukee to be rid of his presence completely and didn't want his stuff to become memorabilia for macab collectors.
*glares at True Crime fangirls*
Yeah that dude was a jack ass.
and now milwaukee is clean
Talk about buying second hand.😮
Yeah but he failed miserably afterwards
Robert Picardo is one seriously underrated actor!!
Don't you mean doctor?
@@gnarlin4964 “The Doctor”!😉👍😂
@@gnarlin4964 Doctor? DOCTOR?! He's just an assemblage of particles suspended in light!
XD
@@RealCaptainJaws 🤣
I've seen Picardo in other stuff than Voyager, but dang! The people on Voyager knew they had an incredible actor, and put Doctor through all sorts story arcs.
Honestly, this is the moment that signified for me that this show was going to be more than just a police procedural with Raylan chasing a new bad guy every week.
I LOVE the fact Raylan took his hat off when the story started, he knew where it was ending and Respected it!
I mean hitler didn't pay much mind to the plight of the victims of his genocide, but THIS would be something that would truly cut an ego maniac.
Idk I think he’d be pleased that he still lives in the minds of both his supporters and enemies egomaniacs mostly crave attention
@@carcarcool6262 Without his paints, one aspect of himself with fade from memory. You're real about them, but will never see the paintings or the effort he put into them. No, Hitler would not be happy about one obsessive person burning them.
Never seen "genocide" used as a verb before. Admittedly, "on whom he committed genocide" is a bit clunky, but "the victims of his genocide" would be better.
@@christopherdean1326 Go read a thesaurus.
@@krieginphernjacobson He doesn't need to, he's correct, genocide cannot be used as a verb, at least as long as you're concerned with using the English language properly.
have enjoyed Picardo on Stargate, and especially on ST-Yoyager, but have never seen this episode- this is my new fave Picardo role...
Hell yeah brother Picardo is an amazing actor. Loved him in both those roles and now I'm going to have to see the new justified. I didn't know he was in it so super treat for me!
I've never seen this show but Robert Picardo killed it
He kills it in pretty much everything he does. He's a fantastic actor.
It is a good show.
"Then I use the ash to repaint them, perfectly, in tones of gray. You want to know what I do with those new paintings, Marshal?"
**they proceed into another room filled with shelves of slightly smaller jars of ash**
That was magnificent.
Oh, he understands... completely.
1:35 I like when he removes his hat. Like he's already comprehended what he's looking at.
Hell yeah. Reminds me of the story of Groucho Marx dancing on the spot where Hitler died.
I did that last September...at the point where they burned him, anyway.
@@vsmicer I saw a brilliant comment regarding if Hitler ever did anything good in his time, and one person pointed out. "Well he did shoot Hitler" So I thank you for doing that dance in celebration lol
I still love that the site of the bunker is now a completely nondescript parking lot.
@@glenchapman3899 Sounds like Norm.
Love how raylan takes his hat off, signifying his understanding and sudden respect for him
Great scene. Seeing the jars was as he neared the end of his story was spectacular.
The writer wrote a great scene and the actor owned it perfectly. 👏👏👏
Rayland takes his hat off.
This scene really does give justification for the meaning of dedication and passion, from both perspectives.
this was a blindside, absolutely loved this dude at the end
Robert Picardo is a national treasure.
Great moment, I just wish the twist wasn't spoiled in the title of the video.
If anyone understood hating what your father did, it would be Raylan.
I've always liked this scene as Raylan of all people can appreciate hating who your father is and wanting to do whatever you can to destroy his legacy.
This man is a hero.
By destroying Hitler's paintings he is punishing Hitler for his desecration of culture and history with his book burnings while simultaneously ensuring that the only thing Hitler can be remembered for is his atrocities.
If the paintings were still there the possibility would exist for them to be discovered at a time when the holocaust has been forgotten resulting in a world where one of histories greatest monsters is remembered only for his artwork.
That's got to be the dumbest interpretation I've heard.
@@Grayald I am not saying that is why he did it.
I am simply saying that by destroying all of Hitler's art he has had the side effect of ensuring that Hitler would not be remembered as some artist in the extremely unlikely event that his atrocities were forgotten.
Obviously this is just some fictional story so it doesn't really matter and his motives were all about undoing his father's greatest moments as a supporter of the Nazi Reich because he hated his father.
But in the universe of the show Hitler's artworks have been destroyed which does mean that a thousand years down the line after 40-50 generations, when people may have forgotten Hitler either as a result of historical records being lost or destroyed or far greater horrors being enacted, there will be no Hitler artwork to rediscover resulting in this forgotten monster being remembered as an artist.
Preventing that possibility makes him some kind of hero not much of one but he did do something even if it was for petty revenge against his father.
If there would become a time where "Hitler is only known for his artwork", he wouldn't be known at all, because the only reason his paintings have value IS because of the artist, not because of any inherent quality.
The only service this guy provides to the world is that he buys up paintings that otherwise might be used as some kind of "artifacts" for Nazis all around the world. For these people, these paintings are invaluable.
It's modern progrevism to a tee.
Hate someone (his father in this case). Stew in that hatred. Do something petty and spiteful against that person. Pretend like it's a heroic act.
@@doncoyote68 The heroism is because Hitler doesn't deserve to be remembered as anything but a monster.
I felt, at the time this was not a great episode until this very scene. I watch this scene over and over again, I was just as surprised as Rylan!!!
Thats the quality of the writing on this show.
I haven’t seen this show, but I just wanted to say I really love Robert Picardo.
He’ll always be the Doctor to me.
And as a pretty awesome Mr. Woolsey.
Just such a cool concept in general, a character so hateful towards someone that long after their death he dedicates a portion of his life to erasing a portion of their history. Great monologue btw.
The first time I ever saw Robert Picardo was in "Innerspace". He played The Cowboy and had an accent that I always thought was real. It wasn't until adulthood when I figured out that he was played by the same guy in "Gremlins 2"!
He is excellent as the Doctor in Voyager. Definitely elevated the show's quality.
A great scene, brilliantly delivered up by Picardo. It’s the timing and the intense resolve that he conveys. One of the best scenes in the series.
I like how he took his hat off. Even sociopaths recognize when respect should be given. Not him, me.
I've never seen this show but that scene is pure gold.
Robert Picardo has a fantastic range as an actor. He's most famous as the holographic Doctor on Voyager but he's done done a lot of wild roles and always pulls it off.
@DragonJohn It's even better if you saw a scene that came before from earlier in the episode. In the scene, Raylan and his boss are up front in a car with the art collector in the back seat, driving him back to the airport. Earlier in the episode they had brought him to assess the paintings, which were part of a seizure and they needed a Hitler art expert to determine their authenticity, and he had declared the paintings fake but didn't give a reason why. He had seemed almost disappointed at the time, and afterwards in the car Raylan and his boss up front talk to each other about what kind of sick twisted freak would collect Hitler paintings, indirectly referring to the art collector as he listens from the back. The whole time he just sits there looking out the window with a wry little smile on his face...they had the completely wrong idea about him the whole time.
Robert Picardo guest starred in my nightmares for more than 20 years as Eddie Quist from The Howling. Downsides of watching an epic monster movie entirely too young, I guess.
Fantastic actor, but every time he smiles, my flesh crawls just a bit to this days all these years later looking at him.
Eddie is the character I think of after Star Trek's EMH for Picardo.
Have you ever seen Legend (1985). He is unrecognizable under all that make up as the swamp witch, but he is creepy as fcuk!!!
The look Picardo gives after “Do you understand?” is perfect.
I always remembered this storyline, and this twist, that he was buying the paintings to destroy them, but I'd forgotten it was Robert Picardo in the role. ❤
Inadvertently raising the value of any remaining paintings that he can't get his hands on.
It’s good to see the hologram doc has a new career in art.
I love the character's commitment both to revenge to making sure those paintings can never fall into the hands of admirers.
A dude going around burning any painting of Hitler's? Tell me that was based on a true story. It'd be so cool.
It would also be rather stupid because those paintings are kinda valuable.
@@jessicaregina1956 Depends on what you value. For a lot of people, watching those things burn is well worth the price of a painting. Besides, it's not like a painting by Hitler would have any value due to it's contributions to the art world.
🤣 and who cares about any contribution to art world
That seems like an stupid destruction of historic pieces over some petty virtue signaling. Like the guys sucks, and im very sad the Red army didnt get to him in time to do as they pleased, but destroying historical pieces because of it? Might as well also destroy anything from the Roman empire, Napoleon's France, Greece, etc. There is even a museum of Racist Memorabilia that preserves racist propaganda from the Jim Crow era, the fact is kept as historic pieces doesnt mean is condining the actions they are related to. I draw the line at destruction of historic pieces on the principle of historic preservation, we already have too few things from history to be destroying more of them over virtue signaling.
Robert Picardo is an incredible actor. Dude is a boss and incredibly talented.
Actually this reminds me of Bluebeard by Kurt Vonnegut. When he revealed his epic painting of D-Day
Yeah! I love later Vonnegut and Bluebeard is fantastic.
I'm so tired I read BlueBird by Bukowski and got confused.
Man... the Doctor really turned hard after his stint on Atlantis.
this is the most wacky and insane premise for anything ever and I could not come up with it if you gave me a million years
Thank you!!!! My family own many of his paintings and all will get more valuable. Great work. I am not rich enough to burn money to achieve this but you must be. LOVE IT!!! Thanks again.
Love this scene
You know, I have always viewed collecting art as something akin to being an expensive car or an overly expensive watch. Something people do just to brag and to feel like they are a big man. But this? *This* is something I can really appreciate!
Robert Picardo starred on Star Trek, Stargate, and so much more. This is the greatest badass he ever played.
I watched this clip twice back-to-back, not because I thought I might have missed something, but because it is so good. The depth of meaning here cannot be calculated.
Ohhh, it's the Doctor!
This is how you get me to watch this show.
Only one episode I'm afraid
I think on this scene so much that I literally forgot what show it was in. Thanks for sharing!
Ironically, burning Hitler’s paintings makes his remaining works more valuable.
Robert Picardo being a badass and I love it :)
Video title kind of gives aways the punch line.
yeah, but it's why I clicked on it.
@@skerbgs fair enough.
the GOAT robert picardo, elevates every single scene he is in
This scene is so powerfully, and has stuck with me for years.
His paintings were decent, though, if you like landscapes.
The doctor. EMH. He's BOSS in everything he's in.
I love that starfleet chose this guy to base there EMH dr on :)
He absolutely made that role a standout for that show. I dislike Voyager as a whole, but whenever the Doctor had an episode centered on them, it was always fantastic.
Seeing this completely without context, I may have to check this show out.
Glad to see the automatic taxi driver from TOTAL RECALL found a new calling.
How did I never realize that was Robert Picardo? In retrospect, it's so obvious.
Hell of a day, huh?
I have yet to watch the show completely and I still recommend it to everyone.
I just want to remind you people hating hitlers paintings is what got us into this mess into the first time.
Interesting point, but it's not like he's around to take offense anymore lol
I have no idea what you mean.
@@veramae4098 if hitlers paintings where more well liked he would have gone to Vienna as an Art Student ergo no ww2.
no its not. no one MADE hitler become a genocidal dictator. he CHOSE to do that. using your logic every kid who was bullied should become a school shooter
@@veramae4098 When Hitler's art didn't get the acclaim he wanted, he went into politics.
What a scene! I haven't watched the serial, clicked on this randomly... and got caught. Oh what a great scene!
I always remembered this scene, but thought it was from an old rerun of Columbo or Murder, She Wrote. Now I know. Thanks for uploading.
This does feel very Columbo-y
This sold me on the show. Never heard of it in my life.
Gotta love Picardo. Sad that he doesn't get to sing in more roles.
Tuvok I understand
You are a Vulcan man
You have now gone without
For seven years, about
What a GigaChad of a character the art dealer is. Such good writing.
That is one way to deal with daddy issues . 😊
Robert Picardo is a very underrated actor. I first noticed him in a small role on TV, and I've been watching and listening to his cultured voice ever since. If there is something that has him in it, I will watch, even if it's not something I normally pay attention to. Reading his filmography one day, I was blown away to see that he played the role of the werewolf / serial-killer Eddie Quist in "The Howling".
Wait a sec....holograms don't have fathers!
Androids don't either, but... 😁
The episode "Life Line" would disagree.
Picardo is one of the greatest actors still in the business. Truly an under appreciated stage actor brought to TV.
I never watched Justified. I clicked because Robert Picardo was on Star Trek (and the Wonder Years!). My question (and this may be a biased audience), should I watch this show? It’s like 15-20 years old, does it hold up?
It absolutely does.
It's a great show with a good writting. It didn't get old at all. They even added a new season in 2023.
It is one of the greatest shows in television history. Some seasons are better than others, but the main thread of the show is perfection, from start to finish. I won't watch the new one, because I regret doing it with X-Files.
There is just something so elegant about that. He doesn't burn them and throw the ashes in the dust bin. Each one is kept in its own labeled jar. Priceless.
I like that I saw this out of context n thought it was a very cool moment but for Raylan, a man who is about to go to war to put his own father away for good it's more a sobering moment. Like this art dealer has spent his life screwing over his asshole father even after his death he continues just to desecrate what his father thought sacred and Raylan sees this and tells Boyd to back off and not find something on Arlo because he doesn't wanna expend the effort and let his life be defined more than it already is by Arlo. What a show.
That's what I love about it. Clipping it this way sort of presents it as a Fuck Yeah moment but Raylan's reaction isn't just respect for how much this dude hates his dad, it's reflection on how fucked up his own feud with his Dad could leave him and realization that maybe he should stop obsessing before it defines his entire life like this guy. then the scene with Boyd you mentioned, when in true Raylan fashion after drawing the boundary that he's not going to go after Arlo, literally seconds later Boyd presents him with something he can't help but bite
The Jewel of ST voyager. Hands down. Loved this role in justified.
Edit and what a turn around on SG Atlantis
Single most powerful scene of the entire series...
Spite and Pettiness Level= Grand Master
Levantine revenge fantasies.
Justified has held up well with age! Nobody else could ever play Boyd as well as Walt Goggins either
This was one of the best holodeck episodes in Star Wars.
what a unique and wonderful character. AAAAAND dam gj at subverting expectations with the twist. We all take joy in seeing those jars.
Part of me is like: Hell yeah burn that shit
Another part of me is like: Those belong in a museum
Its a tricky dillema.
I never saw this show but even without any context this scene is amazing. Robert Picardo is a treasure.