Michael Van Gerwen’s BRUTAL Opinion of Phil Taylor…

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  • Опубликовано: 26 дек 2023
  • The world number 2 of darts Michael van Gerwen shares his honest and brutal opinion of Phil Taylor who he has shared the oche with on numerous occasions. From backstage beef, to even a small scuffle, MVG doesn’t hold back when giving his opinion on arguably the GOAT of darts!
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  • @phillennox7291
    @phillennox7291 4 месяца назад +522

    In 774 matches, Phil Taylor’s lifetime average is 101.28
    That is insane

    • @anthonym3351
      @anthonym3351 4 месяца назад +4

      Incredible Stat, do you know what mvgs is?

    • @stephenwilby1179
      @stephenwilby1179 4 месяца назад +26

      ​@@anthonym3351 it wasnt that yesterday thats for sure.

    • @h2rv
      @h2rv 4 месяца назад

      @@stephenwilby1179

    • @shayneflett
      @shayneflett 4 месяца назад +12

      @@stephenwilby1179 just begging to turn a discussion into an argument

    • @BadGaming367
      @BadGaming367 4 месяца назад +4

      ​@@anthonym3351
      Taylor beats MVG 12-7 for best televised average of 114+.
      Top 10 tournament winning averages, Taylor beats MVG 6-4 while taking 1st & 2nd spot.

  • @davidb5173
    @davidb5173 4 месяца назад +107

    MVG is talking about Taylor the man, not Taylor the player. We all know he's not the best guy in the world

  • @onnxyeah
    @onnxyeah 4 месяца назад +45

    MVG choking up saying he was partly the reason Phil retired, clearly a huge amount of respect there.

    • @dvidclapperton
      @dvidclapperton 4 месяца назад +4

      It is ridiculous. Taylor was almost 60 when he retired from the PDC, so It had nothing to do with Taylor being scared of MvG.
      MvG was in the PDC for a few yesrs before Tsylor retired, and MvG seems to forget that Taylor still won 3 or 4 PDC world titles when both were in the same field. Tsylor was old and MvG was young.

    • @onnxyeah
      @onnxyeah 4 месяца назад

      @@dvidclapperton He didnt say anything about Taylor being scared. In the last few years of his career Taylor openly admitted to not training as much as he used to and I think that showed in some of his performances and he probably didnt want to do the amount of training required to keep up with people like MVG anymore and he probably didnt want to be a mid fielder so called it a day.

  • @jakemoon9939
    @jakemoon9939 4 месяца назад +95

    Phil Taylor had the greatest belief in himself. His nerve was rock solid. I’d be watching his games freaking out under the pressure of the intense moments. When he was winning he was ruthless and when he was behind he was angry but calm. The way he stacked his darts gave him an advantage over everyone which he was happy to take over and over again. No one could match his consistency long term without stacking the darts in the same way.

    • @ChrisThornburn-ke5xk
      @ChrisThornburn-ke5xk 4 месяца назад

      it not 3 dart average it was his doubles

    • @c64flash
      @c64flash 4 месяца назад +1

      Under pressure ? His opposition was really poor back then. Great player but he wouldn't win that much with the oppostion these days.

    • @AJ-xv7oh
      @AJ-xv7oh 4 месяца назад +6

      ​@@c64flashI'm bored of this argument now. You simply don't know darts.

    • @kristianspencer1978
      @kristianspencer1978 4 месяца назад +2

      @@c64flash poor.? Rvb 5 time world champion, priestly, 2 time world champ, part ,3 time world champ, Lewis 2 time world champ, Anderson 2 time world champ. And so on, they are poor are they.?

  • @anthonym3351
    @anthonym3351 4 месяца назад +557

    Taylor has a far superior head to head record to mvg despite the fact they're rivalry came at end of Taylors career, taylor won all matches at world championship and peak taylor of 09 to 11 had a higher average than mvg from 15 to 17. Not to mention that van gerwen is 13 world titles behind taylor

    • @snookerstones
      @snookerstones 4 месяца назад +82

      Taylor will always be the goat but if they played each other both at best, it goes with whoever has the throw.

    • @Kevwebster135
      @Kevwebster135 4 месяца назад +9

      Absolutely spot on this 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @snookerstones
      @snookerstones 4 месяца назад

      @@Kevwebster135 thanksn

    • @xatar1237
      @xatar1237 4 месяца назад +38

      That average thing is due to less tournaments during phils time

    • @anthonym3351
      @anthonym3351 4 месяца назад +33

      @@xatar1237 taylor was hitting over 100 averages regularly by the late 90s, the averages haven't been improved upon

  • @ryanclements8320
    @ryanclements8320 4 месяца назад +136

    Personally i think taylor is the greatest player of all time his consistency was just unmatched he could just maintain levels only other players dreamed of. Van gerwen has the ability to take a game away in 15 minutes with bursts, but factor in the dedication of taylor to stay at the top for 30 years almost he was relentless in darts was his life in which van gerwen is now finding tough to maintain after 10/11 years at the top. They are both unbelievable player but taylors consistency and longevity should put at the top that's without mentioning 16 world titles and 16 matchplays the sheer desire to be and maintain being the best for so long is incredible

    • @Seaby41
      @Seaby41 4 месяца назад +3

      For sure. Just stacking those darts on top of each other in and around the treble 20 (and treble 19 here and there) all day long. They just keep announcing 100, 140 on a sub par day. He's had a few comebacks after he seemed like he was gone for a few months or so as well.

    • @Danman1974
      @Danman1974 4 месяца назад +2

      Taylor's consistency vs MvG's magic...

    • @Danman1974
      @Danman1974 4 месяца назад +1

      Michael says it in a great way...Phil's the Greatest, Michael's the best.

    • @robertcolcombe6893
      @robertcolcombe6893 4 месяца назад +9

      @@Danman1974mvg is neither

    • @ryanclements8320
      @ryanclements8320 4 месяца назад

      @@Danman1974 i think sums it up alot in short

  • @ryanthomas5450
    @ryanthomas5450 4 месяца назад +79

    There is no way this fella is 16!

    • @TheTwoFingeredBulldog
      @TheTwoFingeredBulldog 4 месяца назад +7

      Who MVG? About 35, looks older than that 😂

    • @mislavplavsa726
      @mislavplavsa726 4 месяца назад +2

      this is not Littler

    • @TAG-1984
      @TAG-1984 4 месяца назад +1

      Mv Littler 😅

    • @Dreamsbeds500
      @Dreamsbeds500 4 месяца назад

      Ahahahahaa

    • @Peter-yj8fj
      @Peter-yj8fj 4 месяца назад

      Yeah I want to see his birth certificate, it's like the Saudi Arabia team Scotland played in the under 16 World cup dudes all looked like Thirty years old

  • @jonnamechange6854
    @jonnamechange6854 4 месяца назад +35

    I've still got an early 2000's newspaper article somewhere explaining the methods to Phil Taylor's great success. This was to stack the darts vertically, one on top of the other, inside the centre of the treble twenty.
    All very neat and tidy, also printed with a matching diagram to illustrate how it's done!

    • @TheAnderson0701
      @TheAnderson0701 4 месяца назад +2

      You can't coach how the darts land in the board, that's all down to his throwing action and angle of trajectory

    • @ChrisThornburn-ke5xk
      @ChrisThornburn-ke5xk 4 месяца назад +1

      look at his darts they went in straight still today many are at angel

    • @richardboss3358
      @richardboss3358 4 месяца назад +1

      @@TheAnderson0701Alot to do is with the set up of his darts.

  • @galaxygalaxy4429
    @galaxygalaxy4429 4 месяца назад +13

    I think they're both incredible. I really can't choose between those 2. I'm pretty sure Phil and Michael would play for spot 1 and 2 if they started at the same age in this era.

    • @kevinb9830
      @kevinb9830 4 месяца назад +1

      Records wise, it's no contest.

  • @nigeldunn8339
    @nigeldunn8339 4 месяца назад +14

    MVG is not dominating darts with no stand out players.
    Don’t think Taylor is jealous of someone way back on 3 World Titles!!

    • @laserbeak3551
      @laserbeak3551 4 месяца назад +1

      Its not only about world titles. Mvg has many many titles

    • @TheRockisaBondMovie
      @TheRockisaBondMovie 4 месяца назад +1

      @@laserbeak3551check the record books again 😂 mvg still back a country mile

    • @coenschouwenburg5041
      @coenschouwenburg5041 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@TheRockisaBondMoviehe is already half way in Majors... worldtitles will not be broken anymore.

    • @robertcolcombe6893
      @robertcolcombe6893 4 месяца назад

      Neither will his matchplay records mate

  • @phillennox7291
    @phillennox7291 4 месяца назад +79

    I hate when folks say ‘Phil’s competition wasn’t so good’ doesn’t matter, his averages in tournaments and finals was exceptional

    • @anthonym3351
      @anthonym3351 4 месяца назад +15

      Maybe the chasing pack are better nowadays, but the elite level has never improved upon Taylors standards

    • @Larakinerd
      @Larakinerd 4 месяца назад +5

      It wasn’t that his competition wasn’t good. It was that Phil Taylor was simply the fucking best.

    • @ChrisThornburn-ke5xk
      @ChrisThornburn-ke5xk 4 месяца назад +2

      @@Larakinerd these top players today are great but phils averages etc are above them

    • @Irritant1000
      @Irritant1000 4 месяца назад +1

      Like darters from now are superhumans . Not even talking about less tournaments , material etc.

    • @Stuffthatsfunny1
      @Stuffthatsfunny1 4 месяца назад +1

      Makes it a lot easier to win championships when everyone else is much worse

  • @kingsaf3998
    @kingsaf3998 4 месяца назад +67

    We're not talking about Phil Taylor personality, should be judging his ability and that's undisputed greatest darts player of all time.

    • @Matfridt
      @Matfridt 4 месяца назад

      THEY are talking about both regarding an event and MvG clearly says Phil Taylor is the best of all time. Are you deaf?

    • @kingsaf3998
      @kingsaf3998 4 месяца назад

      @@Matfridtyou need to re watch MVG says he is the best you doughnut. Are you deaf. I really like MVG but you can’t compare his achievements to Phil Taylor.

    • @ilck-ym-blals7385
      @ilck-ym-blals7385 4 месяца назад

      Knob

    • @kingsaf3998
      @kingsaf3998 4 месяца назад

      @@ilck-ym-blals7385 MVG out like I said not on Phil Taylor’s level and never will be.

    • @ilck-ym-blals7385
      @ilck-ym-blals7385 4 месяца назад

      @@kingsaf3998 knob

  • @noncookiecutter6753
    @noncookiecutter6753 4 месяца назад +73

    Mvg bragging about putting Taylor on the floor when he’s in his mid twenties and Taylor in his 50’s. Yeah well done mate 👍🏻.

  • @Barberdon2022
    @Barberdon2022 4 месяца назад +9

    Greatest darts 🎯 podcast interview of all time this one 🤣
    Well done boys 👏

  • @samclenaghan2008
    @samclenaghan2008 4 месяца назад +20

    I really like Michael but I find it weird how he seems to think he retired him, he was old, it is part of life lol.

    • @theliesisire7485
      @theliesisire7485 4 месяца назад +3

      MVG took Taylor's invincibility away. Yes, age also played a part but with prime MVG on the scene Taylor became human and with that vulnerable. Others suddenly realized they also stood a chance against him.

    • @samclenaghan2008
      @samclenaghan2008 4 месяца назад +6

      @@theliesisire7485 I think prime MVG played against Taylor at the tail end of his career. I really don’t think MVG had anything to do with his retirement.

    • @welshforlife
      @welshforlife 4 месяца назад

      ​@samclenaghan2008 agreed taylor had won more in 1 year than most dart players win in thier life. the disrespect he gets for liking to talk about himself is wild......hes achieved so much hes earned that right.

    • @TheRockisaBondMovie
      @TheRockisaBondMovie 4 месяца назад +1

      @@theliesisire7485 he made the worlds final his last year at the age of 52 I think, let’s see mvg do that! He struggles now, what’s he gonna look like in 20
      Years for crying out loud 😂

    • @Matfridt
      @Matfridt 4 месяца назад +1

      You clearly heard what you wanted to hear. I interpreted this as him saying he rattled Phil in his early years, which he certainly did. He also goes on to the say Phil is the GOAT, took Michael 0.1 second to answer that one. There is no drama here

  • @bryanh5684
    @bryanh5684 4 месяца назад +254

    MVG sums up Taylor perfectly -- the greatest darts player of all time but a deplorable human being...

    • @Wiggi147
      @Wiggi147 4 месяца назад +7

      Did you learn him?

    • @leemcqueen500
      @leemcqueen500 4 месяца назад

      Rapist 4:50

    • @Its.My.Life.
      @Its.My.Life. 4 месяца назад +17

      @@Wiggi147did learn him you?

    • @pauladamson8684
      @pauladamson8684 4 месяца назад +1

      Do you know him then?

    • @ImOnAGoat91
      @ImOnAGoat91 4 месяца назад +5

      very ironic coming from MVG lol

  • @Lewi_4554
    @Lewi_4554 4 месяца назад +8

    Watching Phil Taylor growing up was incredible, it seemed like Barney was the only one who could ever get somewhat close to beating him but he truly dominated his era. I will always respect him for that. I can't help but think he did have some unnecessary arrogance in his personality though, having heard similar words from a few people now inc MVG & Wayne Mardle who both come across as decent blokes.

    • @anthonym3351
      @anthonym3351 4 месяца назад

      Personally I always found taylor to be very complimentary of other players while mvg seems very derogatory to other players, Taylor took every player seriously

  • @masterofdisaster9194
    @masterofdisaster9194 4 месяца назад +21

    Cannot believe these comments. I see it with all sports, the moment a Legend retires they were no good and the competition was poor. Taylor was literally the most dominant sports star ever. He was the standard. MVG also never met Taylor in his prime, luckily for MVG

    • @ChrisThornburn-ke5xk
      @ChrisThornburn-ke5xk 4 месяца назад +1

      this sounds like sour grapes from van gerwin

    • @user-kb6vf1vf8b
      @user-kb6vf1vf8b 4 месяца назад

      Lucky he never met him after a darts show in a motor home …

    • @saltytree729
      @saltytree729 3 месяца назад

      fucking sports star HAHA give owa man, dominant darts player yea? id agree, dont be calling darts players sports man, the average weight of them is higher than their average scoring in kg WHAT THE FUCK lol

  • @stevenhurst8051
    @stevenhurst8051 4 месяца назад +39

    If it wasn't for phil these guys wouldn't make the money they do,show respect

  • @soup8786
    @soup8786 4 месяца назад +55

    His last game was the world final and he won a major that year.

    • @MrSimonsonLifts
      @MrSimonsonLifts 4 месяца назад +19

      Not only a major but a matchplay and along the way beat price, Barney mvg, Lewis and wright

    • @cocacoola7166
      @cocacoola7166 4 месяца назад +20

      @@MrSimonsonLifts Beat MVG 16-6 in that world matchplay. They talk about Taylor like he was some sort of relic that couldnt keep up. When he was still winning big ones right up until he decided to quit. Sure he wasnt as dominant, but he definately proved that the "new age players" werent better than him. MVGs ego is probably bigger than Taylors, if thats even possible.

    • @youlesie23
      @youlesie23 Месяц назад

      Taylor was an utter bellend, but my word he was a special, special darts player. The greatest testament to his greatness is this - he only had a losing record in the PDC to one player. It was Rob Cross, who he played in his last ever game in the PDC, in the World Championship Final.

  • @craigbradley6210
    @craigbradley6210 4 месяца назад +9

    Crediting himself with being the reason Taylor retired is a bit rich. Taylor retired because he was getting older and his results were starting to slip. It would have happened at a similar time with or without Van Gerwen imo

  • @wormsnake1
    @wormsnake1 4 месяца назад +5

    In a footballing analogy Taylor is Liverpool and Gerwen is Blackpool.x

  • @davejones2823
    @davejones2823 4 месяца назад

    Nice, honest interview from M.V.G. there. Others would do well to learn from this.

  • @boreilly82
    @boreilly82 4 месяца назад +1

    Lads, the sound quality! How long have you been doing these episodes now?

  • @mrbeanie5314
    @mrbeanie5314 4 месяца назад +62

    MvG was amazing until he became successful. Taylor was amazing for 30yrs. Different levels.

    • @Kevwebster135
      @Kevwebster135 4 месяца назад +5

      Spot on mate

    • @joshbrouse105
      @joshbrouse105 4 месяца назад +4

      Mvg is still amazing

    • @ahoy96
      @ahoy96 4 месяца назад +6

      He was amazing when it wasn't competitive

    • @joshbrouse105
      @joshbrouse105 4 месяца назад +1

      @@ahoy96 😂😂

    • @NffcR
      @NffcR 4 месяца назад +4

      Taylor was beating pub players

  • @mr-heinz
    @mr-heinz 4 месяца назад +8

    I love this Bond villain.

  • @ryancostigan1591
    @ryancostigan1591 4 месяца назад

    Is there a full episode of this ?

  • @andrewbenjamin3835
    @andrewbenjamin3835 4 месяца назад +2

    Brilliant as ever

  • @David-zn9gq
    @David-zn9gq 4 месяца назад +9

    Last time they played in a major, taylor smashed him

  • @1066gaz
    @1066gaz 4 месяца назад +5

    phil taylor 30 plus years of extremely high standard, not mentioning 16 world titles, and still playing the incredibly high standard into his 50's.
    MVG playing no where near his best now in his 30's.
    A bit like steve davis and stephen hendry in snooker played awesome upto their mid 30's then dropped off, but ronnie o' sullivan on the other hand still playing incredibly high standard coming upto 50 years old.
    Phil taylor and ronnie o'sullivan are the exceptions in their sports.

  • @elecovanrenss1352
    @elecovanrenss1352 4 месяца назад +30

    phil is the greatest of all time. but has here ever be a season like that of MVG in 2017? i never seen anyone throwing that good in 1 year.

    • @HowIsThat69
      @HowIsThat69 4 месяца назад +2

      Ehhh despite mvg lost 16-6 to Phil in Matchplay in blackpool, and lost semis to rob cross at the worlds he might have been good. Just not in the tournaments that counts as the biggest 😂

    • @nicokern7615
      @nicokern7615 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@HowIsThat69 he was talking about the 2016 season

    • @kinggamer523
      @kinggamer523 4 месяца назад

      @@nicokern7615 He defo said 2017 lol

    • @nicokern7615
      @nicokern7615 4 месяца назад +1

      @@kinggamer523 yes
      He wrongly said 2017, probably because the 2016 season finished with the 2017 world championship

  • @adambrough7969
    @adambrough7969 4 месяца назад +13

    I would disagree with him saying he made Phil retire early. I think he lengthened it 2 or 3 years due to their rivalry

  • @calderjack7818
    @calderjack7818 4 месяца назад +11

    Van gerwin sounds like one of those kidnappers in Hollywood films who sends a disguised voice ransom demand!!

    • @jesuschambers
      @jesuschambers 4 месяца назад

      Funniest ever comment on RUclips. Brilliant! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @sean_43
    @sean_43 4 месяца назад +3

    Sounds like a Dutch Frank Bruno to be fair "he he he Harry"

  • @user-xv2kk5fe5b
    @user-xv2kk5fe5b 4 месяца назад +20

    Taylor has 16 world titles. Enough said.

  • @brianswanson4921
    @brianswanson4921 4 месяца назад +11

    the only thing that beat Phil Taylor was old age

  • @embryon1111
    @embryon1111 4 месяца назад +14

    Funny thing. . .if Phil was sitting with them there, I don't think Shrek would be so loose with his words.

  • @Chugmeister666
    @Chugmeister666 4 месяца назад +5

    If Phil was young coming through now at 17 having played for years before like mvg he be pushing averages over 120 regularly.Age fitness eyesight caught up with him last 5 years still one of the best when retirement at 58.

    • @leedavies1475
      @leedavies1475 4 месяца назад +3

      Fitness? 😂 it's darts not rugby

    • @Chugmeister666
      @Chugmeister666 4 месяца назад +1

      @leedavies1475 Travelling all over the world at 50s then play.Try it yourself as you seem to know it all😂

    • @leedavies1475
      @leedavies1475 4 месяца назад

      @@Chugmeister666 didn't Andy Fordham win a world title. Fitness doesn't come into darts surely.

    • @adriankearney4850
      @adriankearney4850 4 месяца назад

      @@leedavies1475 fitness comes into every sports event even darts and snooker. a fit body helps keep the brain/mind sharper.an unfit body tires the mind

    • @AB-sg5wn
      @AB-sg5wn 4 месяца назад

      ​@leedavies1475 No, he means if you keep yourself fit like Luke Humphries you can play longer and better. Being overweight effects the knees when applying pressure on one leg when throwing. And drinking alcohol most nights effects the eye sight eventually.

  • @thecelt4807
    @thecelt4807 4 месяца назад +2

    the thing today in most sports is that all players on any day can beat anyone , sure a few stand out a tad more but over all i think the caliber of all players now will prevent anyone one player dominating a long time , as their all capable ..time will tell but littler looks set to do major damage a long time , time will tell

  • @BertSmithLondon
    @BertSmithLondon 4 месяца назад +15

    There are some great players around at the moment, but Phil Taylor on his A game would beat the lot of them.

  • @donbaxley5530
    @donbaxley5530 4 месяца назад +13

    No doubt the players of today if they were in Taylors era he would not have won as many world championships, but that is true of all records. Players get better and so does the competition.

    • @MrSimonsonLifts
      @MrSimonsonLifts 4 месяца назад +4

      Have you seen Taylor’s averages? 111 average over 7 sets etc

    • @donbaxley5530
      @donbaxley5530 4 месяца назад

      @@MrSimonsonLifts Yes.

    • @MrSimonsonLifts
      @MrSimonsonLifts 4 месяца назад +3

      @@donbaxley5530 then you don’t understand darts

    • @donbaxley5530
      @donbaxley5530 4 месяца назад

      Feel better now loser?@@MrSimonsonLifts

    • @peppermintfreedom
      @peppermintfreedom 4 месяца назад +6

      @@MrSimonsonLifts Must be a new fan or someone under the age of 30. Clueless to even contemplate that Taylor is not the greatest to ever hold a dart.

  • @wingsofdivorce7606
    @wingsofdivorce7606 4 месяца назад +17

    I love that micheal does not care about what other people think. He says what he wants, almost no one does that these days.

    • @chrisphallheatlover9848
      @chrisphallheatlover9848 4 месяца назад

      💯

    • @ChrisThornburn-ke5xk
      @ChrisThornburn-ke5xk 4 месяца назад

      his performance this year was poor

    • @chrisphallheatlover9848
      @chrisphallheatlover9848 4 месяца назад +2

      @ChrisThornburn-ke5xk Poor? Do you watch darts?
      He won the Premier league- the US Darts Masters- Players Championship-Belgian Darts Open- and the world series finals.
      Why poor? Because he didn't win the worlds, For any other pro dart player this is an amazing year.

    • @ChrisThornburn-ke5xk
      @ChrisThornburn-ke5xk 4 месяца назад

      @@chrisphallheatlover9848 and in world championship he hit 3 doubles out of twenty poor

  • @Splitscreen83
    @Splitscreen83 4 месяца назад +2

    You could probably add everyone else's championships together and Phil Taylor still has more. There's absolutely no comparison.

  • @yutehube4468
    @yutehube4468 4 месяца назад +2

    5:34 that reaction LMAO

  • @Keffertje666
    @Keffertje666 4 месяца назад +8

    In Taylor his days,almost nobody could throw 95+ averages,look at the level these days..

    • @scotthands4396
      @scotthands4396 4 месяца назад +2

      Everyone could throw 95+ averages back then easy

    • @HowIsThat69
      @HowIsThat69 4 месяца назад

      Where do you get that weird idea from. Try to look in the statistics.

    • @jordanharrison8454
      @jordanharrison8454 4 месяца назад

      Completely inaccurate

    • @ChrisThornburn-ke5xk
      @ChrisThornburn-ke5xk 4 месяца назад

      it was common in pdc averages to be over 100 you must be getting mixed up with bdo

  • @allanfinnie4428
    @allanfinnie4428 4 месяца назад +8

    I don’t like Taylor ,but Gerwin would have to play til he’s 80 to equal him

  • @ilck-ym-blals7385
    @ilck-ym-blals7385 4 месяца назад

    3:29 ...anyone know what video they talking about please?

  • @brucewee8802
    @brucewee8802 4 месяца назад +1

    Michael is one of the best ever but there is only one Phil 'the Powe'r Taylor. The greatest ever by far and I can't see anybody ever being that good again

  • @kristianspencer1978
    @kristianspencer1978 4 месяца назад +10

    Taylor is the guvnor. 16 times world champ, 2 9 darters in one match. Going 2 years without losing a match, beating rvb, priestly, mvg, ect, no one will ever match his record, and the match against Lewis at the grand slam in 13 was the best match iv ever seen, 113 vs 110 long format crazy. Players can match that now but only in patches not through a long match. And dart boards are generous these days, the trebles are bigger hence why the higher averages.

    • @paulgrayson8799
      @paulgrayson8799 4 месяца назад

      I didn’t know they had made parts of the dart board bigger...... interesting 🤔

    • @paulgrayson8799
      @paulgrayson8799 4 месяца назад

      Just checked, it’s down to the wire used on the board, the average board wire is 0.6mm and the tournament wire is 0.4
      So the doubles and trebles are bigger

    • @ChrisThornburn-ke5xk
      @ChrisThornburn-ke5xk 4 месяца назад

      @@paulgrayson8799 it is because the wire is much thinner

    • @robertcolcombe6893
      @robertcolcombe6893 8 дней назад

      @@paulgrayson8799Chris mason did a piece on RUclips showing todays boards are 14 percent bigger that’s why trebles and doubles are bigger

  • @tonka869me
    @tonka869me 4 месяца назад +10

    I agree with mvg Taylor is the greatest mvg is maybe the best.
    One thing I've just thought is often in darts players will rise or drop to their opponent, for Phil to keep that level against 'blokes from the pub'was so impressive and to see him in the game now at his peak would be great to see and I think he would be on par with all the top4 on the game rn

    • @soup8786
      @soup8786 4 месяца назад +1

      Wrong

    • @tonka869me
      @tonka869me 4 месяца назад +5

      @@soup8786 interesting argument

    • @soup8786
      @soup8786 4 месяца назад +4

      @tonka869me Phil was better as well. Better peak years avg, better head to head. Just better, as the wires got thinner and he changed to small fat barrel during the unicorn years he was better than mvg has ever been. He is the reason avgs went up. They had to to stand a chance. Now littler has a chance to be the best he is already world class at 16. 17 year old mvg couldn't do this in the pdc. He was good but not like this in front of crowds, but we will see.

    • @jimmyjimmy2870
      @jimmyjimmy2870 4 месяца назад +2

      @@soup8786he would still be on par with the best, he would probably still win lots, but nowhere near the same amount of titles

    • @MeMe-dw1sm
      @MeMe-dw1sm 4 месяца назад

      Taylor said that himself. He said no one willb ever take his record, as the overall level is greater now.

  • @Bob-ts2tu
    @Bob-ts2tu 4 месяца назад +1

    i can't think of anyone who stayed at the top of his game in any sport for as long as phil did, and even at the end of his career when on the decline was still often heads above most others. MVG is my fav player atm, but he's still a long way to go to achieve what phil did.

  • @davidjones2172
    @davidjones2172 4 месяца назад +2

    Phil Taylor once stole my swimming shorts! True story!

  • @andystreet4022
    @andystreet4022 4 месяца назад +5

    MVG is good but lets face it Phil concentrated solely on darts whilst MVG made several "Shrek" movies on the side.

    • @HowIsThat69
      @HowIsThat69 4 месяца назад

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 yeah spot on

  • @kingsaf3998
    @kingsaf3998 4 месяца назад +6

    I really like MVG but he is not on the same level as Phil Taylor, just look at Phil’s record, no one has come anywhere near it. Just one example Phil Taylor achieved two 9 darters in one game that is insane.

    • @AlastairBarker
      @AlastairBarker 4 месяца назад

      18 PERFECT DARTS AND THE MATCH AGANST CROSS WITH A 9 AND 2 170'S TAYLOR GOT NOWHERE CLOSE.

    • @robertcolcombe6893
      @robertcolcombe6893 4 месяца назад

      @@user-pt3pb5rp8ryou think these players are better than prime ando, Lewis, Barney, Wade and mvg himself, I don’t

  • @chrishaddow5644
    @chrishaddow5644 4 месяца назад +2

    give taylor his due look at his blackpool record over 100 average last time he played there every game

  • @Tallmartin180
    @Tallmartin180 4 месяца назад +8

    I love all the comments saying that Phil had no competition, unless you were there/saw a lot of it close up, you can’t appreciate rolling up at top competitions with fantastic professional players performing at high level only to have someone incredible completely outclass them , hence the decades of the ‘powers’ fear factor playing at unbelievable levels.
    MVG had that for about 4- 5 years but it is no more and will likely not be again because he just hasn’t sustained the levels, he himself achieved .
    In PT I watched an incredible performer for 20 + years winning everything, bringing crowds & pubs to standstill to watch his incredible feats, ruining people before the game had started ( I played, won Against and spoke to the world no 2 at the time on this and he was lost for an explanation as he worked just as hard).
    Don't forget what PT HAS achieved just because time has passed. PTPT would kick everyone’s butt just the same in this era if he was the same age.
    MVG seems bitter because he knows he cannot achieve the same if he had 10 lifetimes and cannot dominate against his hard working peers.
    Sometimes you just have to admit when someone truly great and superior at their chosen profession comes along.

    • @gregmcgreg9771
      @gregmcgreg9771 4 месяца назад

      not sustained his level is not true. after his fall in 2020 he continued to have the highest season average of all players. (exept 2023) his level BARELY sank. its just that all other players got better and better

  • @harryburns8767
    @harryburns8767 4 месяца назад +16

    Taylor best ever player and nobody will reign for as long as that man did love him or hate him if your a real darts fan you can’t even deny him that

  • @Jaaskelainen1993
    @Jaaskelainen1993 4 месяца назад +11

    "Is phil taylor resentful of your career?" Absolutely not 😂

    • @celticfc1916
      @celticfc1916 4 месяца назад +2

      Did he he say that though? He just said Talyor should have retired earlier and didn't handle losing too well and in the end this showed . And that's the truth simply.

    • @TheRockisaBondMovie
      @TheRockisaBondMovie 4 месяца назад

      @@celticfc1916incredible he made the worlds final his last year playing on tour, clearly the goat.

    • @celticfc1916
      @celticfc1916 4 месяца назад

      @TheRockisaBondMovie Didn't say he is not the goat. I agree with the records, but like what MVG said, he should have retired before losing his edge, and I also think he had a nasty side when it came to sportsmanship to others . If he needed to do this out of motivation, who knows but wasn't a good look .

  • @FilmVerseStudios
    @FilmVerseStudios 2 месяца назад +1

    the irony watching this now hearing him say "look how happy he was to beat me, I was only a kid" when this is exactly how he reacts to beating luke littler.😂😅

  • @chrisphallheatlover9848
    @chrisphallheatlover9848 4 месяца назад +1

    First thing i do is have a piss 😂
    MVG doesn't care one bit does he. I would love to meet the guy. He's a top bloke

  • @RobPickles
    @RobPickles 4 месяца назад +3

    Taylor at his best beats everyone even today.

  • @TP-sf5mk
    @TP-sf5mk 4 месяца назад +8

    Phil is the best also. The quality of the boards and all related equipment has to be taken into account. But even without that, his tournament averages are .... ahem, phenomenal

  • @std6385
    @std6385 4 месяца назад +1

    As a darts player there is no doubt Phil is the greatest for the longevity and success. Not just worlds but the number of Matchplays, Grand Prix and Open amongst everything else will never be rivalled. I get the argument he had the likes of manley, painter etc on toast and yes he would win no where near as much but he would still have won more than the rest including MVG if starting in the same era. He only started to wane in the later years and even then still made finals etc and won so it's unquestioned. MVG may have set a standard for 3 year but the power would have found a way and he may not have won as much either its not all one way.

  • @shaunjenkinson5089
    @shaunjenkinson5089 4 месяца назад +2

    16 World Titles. End of discussion

  • @mrcasino7051
    @mrcasino7051 4 месяца назад +3

    I have never heard MVG talk until now and he needs subtitles to follow him around in life

    • @z.a.2135
      @z.a.2135 4 месяца назад

      He’s got braces in, or maybe a retainer, which is making it harder to understand!

  • @LJdeatz01
    @LJdeatz01 4 месяца назад +9

    Wow the lack of respect for the goat,Taylor took the game to another level,this guy will never match him,prime taylor batters him.

    • @altberlin3826
      @altberlin3826 4 месяца назад +3

      Prime MVG Vs Prime Taylor it's MVG all day. On a one off game Taylor couldn't live with MVGs game. Greatest yes but the best no. And then there's the fact he's a complete arsehole 😂

    • @AlastairBarker
      @AlastairBarker 4 месяца назад

      TAYLOR HATES THE FACT AT THEIR BEST MVG IS SO MUCH BETTER, IVE NEVER SEEN TAYLOR DO THE STUFF MVG DOES, NEVER!

    • @LJdeatz01
      @LJdeatz01 4 месяца назад +1

      You are deluded mvg never gets to the level he has without the goat,mvg will never match him.

    • @robertcolcombe6893
      @robertcolcombe6893 4 месяца назад

      @@altberlin3826how long you been watching darts mate , not long I guess

    • @ChrisThornburn-ke5xk
      @ChrisThornburn-ke5xk 4 месяца назад

      @@AlastairBarker so deluded taylor beat mvg far more times he was on the decline still beat mvg your weird post never seen taylor do what mvg does like hit 3 out of twenty doubles mvg this year taylor is only one to do 2 nine darters in same match taylor simpley the best

  • @user-do1wv3ve1n
    @user-do1wv3ve1n 4 месяца назад +2

    Time will tell !
    I played 3 weeks ago with a guy that Chris Dobey could never beat ?
    He said he would beat him now cos he's got on telly n has more experience and he is younger!!
    Before Dobey advanced, he could never beat him tho
    Taylor was the best since Bristow etc

  • @ItlsWhatltls
    @ItlsWhatltls 4 месяца назад +1

    I haven’t watched the full podcast so idk whether it’s like this the whole time but it’s a bit weird watching a great darts player of recent years and two podcasters talking down on the best player of all time😂

  • @JayChambers83
    @JayChambers83 4 месяца назад +17

    Taylor’s success will never be eclipsed. He was a manufactured talent, so consistent and could demoralise opponents. When MVG really hit the scene in 2012 I knew he’d be the only player to rival Phil and their statistics are very close on the oche re scoring, averages, finishing etc - albeit Phil’s achievements are light years ahead of anyone including Mike.
    The way I see it is had they both been playing in their prime at the same time that they’d likely be participating against each other in the majority of finals. Because Phil could raise his game like a wounded animal and Mike does so similarly. When Phil avenged his loss to Barney 7-1 he was unplayable. Even Mike at his best might have struggled. Mike can win a set checking out in 10 - 11 darts with ease but then disappear. Where as Phil’s consistency of 12 darts finishes but every set were what players struggled to cope with.
    I guess we will never know. But Phil will always be the greatest player to grace the oche. And I guess it’s probably a good thing they both didn’t perform at their peaks at respective time because the other players might have struggled to dethrone either. Reason being is both Phil and Mike are fiercely competitive to the extent that they’d be looking to improve all the time merely in case they collide with one another!
    Massive respect to both of them and I love darts in general. Best of luck to both Luke’s tonight, should be absolutely epic!

    • @ChrisThornburn-ke5xk
      @ChrisThornburn-ke5xk 4 месяца назад

      you show disrepect to anderson etc he had 106/7 average in 2017 he didnt win final

    • @JayChambers83
      @JayChambers83 4 месяца назад

      @@ChrisThornburn-ke5xk I’ve nothing but admiration for the flying Scotsman. At his peak he was fluent and exciting. But this is more about Phil and MVG on basis. So I’m not sure where the word disrespect came from. When Anderson beat Taylor I’d actually be happy for him because when he has confidence he can compete with the best.

  • @G0lden3agle1
    @G0lden3agle1 4 месяца назад +8

    I think mvg is great but phil taylor is the best darts player ever and I think at that that champions night they shouldn't of let him take on that much, and for me if you a big darts fan you cant slate taylor 👍🏻

    • @Kevwebster135
      @Kevwebster135 4 месяца назад +4

      Spot on brother Phil Taylor will never be touched he’s the greatest

    • @G0lden3agle1
      @G0lden3agle1 4 месяца назад +2

      @Kevwebster135 100% Phil is the reason why alot of people actually loved watching the darts, I feel like darts is still good but its not as good as it was back then, there's not as many characters

    • @Afed390
      @Afed390 4 месяца назад

      I'm better than Phil Taylor. I'm Stoke's number one player

    • @kierondavies2822
      @kierondavies2822 4 месяца назад

      What are you waffling. They never let Phil take on so much he just made it all about him cos he’s a tit of a man. Great player but a nobhead. Would never have won as much as he did in this era either.

    • @G0lden3agle1
      @G0lden3agle1 4 месяца назад

      @@Afed390 nice one 👍🏻

  • @richlounder2465
    @richlounder2465 4 месяца назад +1

    Taylor is the POWER, always was and always will be…

  • @tonysoprano9370
    @tonysoprano9370 4 месяца назад +2

    Barney also doesn’t get enough credit because he entered the PDC and beat the best player on the planet on his first PDC championship to win the final

    • @robertcolcombe6893
      @robertcolcombe6893 4 месяца назад

      Barney won’t get the credit for beating Taylor in that world final, after that game Taylor owned him

  • @Timesend
    @Timesend 4 месяца назад +33

    Mvg is such a joker you gotta love him

    • @CoolMikey81
      @CoolMikey81 4 месяца назад +3

      He’s full of himself. i don’t like that much..Phil was never like this

    • @jaydempsey4693
      @jaydempsey4693 4 месяца назад +16

      @@CoolMikey81you can’t be serious, watch a night with the champions, most self centred, inflated ego on that stage by a mile

    • @jimmyjimmy2870
      @jimmyjimmy2870 4 месяца назад +8

      @@CoolMikey81what? The only thing Phil Taylor thinks about is himself

    • @irishrebel2009
      @irishrebel2009 4 месяца назад +4

      @@CoolMikey81 Best joke I've heard in a long long time!

    • @youlesie23
      @youlesie23 4 месяца назад

      ⁠@@CoolMikey81 Phil is notorious for being a colossal prick. MvG is very blunt but by all accounts he’s a decent bloke. Taylor on the other hand was notorious for being a wanker. Just a reminder that the reason he doesn’t have an MBE is because he’s a sex offender. Brilliant darts player, horrible human being.

  • @lewiewanie
    @lewiewanie 4 месяца назад +14

    Of course Phil Taylor is the greatest darts player of all time. The trophies state this!

  • @redrebel0066
    @redrebel0066 4 месяца назад +2

    Phil Taylor's biggest fan was always Phil Taylor!

  • @willhull1735
    @willhull1735 4 месяца назад +1

    I can some points of mvg and others I'm going well I think you may understand that some day when your not the top dog. Heck Taylor final year he won again at the matchplay and made the final of the world's that is actually ridiculous but shows how good he was, maybe mvg will understand when his game weakens and he loses more as its hard coming from a point when your at your best to not being the best you are anymore.

    • @paarker
      @paarker 4 месяца назад

      Father Time will soon reach MVG humility.

  • @Kevwebster135
    @Kevwebster135 4 месяца назад +16

    Couldn’t lace Phil’s boots, let’s see him get anywhere near Phil’s record

    • @jat1994
      @jat1994 4 месяца назад +9

      Zip his darts holder you mean?

    • @AlastairBarker
      @AlastairBarker 4 месяца назад

      MY MY SOMEONES GOT A CHIP, MVG AT HIS BEST WOULD DESTROY TAYLOR, TAYLOR HAD TO USE EVERY TRICK IN THE BOOK WITH MIND GAMES....

  • @ababbington1
    @ababbington1 4 месяца назад +4

    MVG vs PT both at their peak. MVG quickly realises he’s got to move back to Holland and open a weed cafe 🤣🤣

  • @SweetChillieBeat
    @SweetChillieBeat 4 месяца назад

    When mvg is that old, there well be a similar interview about mvg and jtll be littler bein interviewed

  • @thecelt4807
    @thecelt4807 4 месяца назад +2

    mvg is genuine speaks his mind and you take it or leave it , he gives zero f#ks which i respect , i rather open honesty instead of fake pretense . good bloke

  • @coyyiddo1701
    @coyyiddo1701 4 месяца назад +11

    You never beat the Powers record ...GOAT

    • @Sparkasm
      @Sparkasm 4 месяца назад

      Who cares they're both knob heads

    • @ceesvanderschoot9799
      @ceesvanderschoot9799 4 месяца назад +2

      What records ??? He broke them all already as far as I know

    • @weskenny
      @weskenny 4 месяца назад

      Probably never have to sexually assault anyone either

    • @danielpooley7148
      @danielpooley7148 4 месяца назад

      But taylor is a sex offender

    • @ceesvanderschoot9799
      @ceesvanderschoot9799 4 месяца назад

      @@thenewmonkeytapestunez Witch ones are still Phil,s then ???

  • @lukemcmillan5264
    @lukemcmillan5264 4 месяца назад +7

    phil is a darts god
    mvg will never reach his heights

    • @StopLookingAtMyAcc
      @StopLookingAtMyAcc 4 месяца назад +3

      Phil beat bums

    • @JohnJones-xt9gi
      @JohnJones-xt9gi 4 месяца назад

      @@StopLookingAtMyAccwatched darts for 32 years I hate Taylor as a person but he’s the best ever and better than mvg I rmeber there last game he beat mvg about 16-6 and van gerwen was right at his peak then Taylor was finished old eyesight gone the lot anybody who believes mvg or anybody on the circuit today is better than Taylor is deluded

    • @cr9281
      @cr9281 4 месяца назад

      Besides Phil Taylor is the goat, Mvg has still 30+ years to go lol...

  • @domgill4626
    @domgill4626 4 месяца назад

    I got told mvg was trying it on with bar staff at Barnsley metronome

  • @jakefey4065
    @jakefey4065 4 месяца назад +1

    Not gunna lie he looks and sounds like a bond villain

  • @mickharrison9004
    @mickharrison9004 4 месяца назад +4

    Mvg doesn't come close to a prime Taylor 👊🏆

    • @AlastairBarker
      @AlastairBarker 4 месяца назад

      THEN YOU CLEARLY AINT BEEN WATCHING DARTS LONG, I SUGGEST YOU WATCH MVG 2016 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP AND THEN ALL OF 2017,,,

    • @coop2639
      @coop2639 4 месяца назад

      @@AlastairBarker 16-3 says it all

  • @jasonwilson-nw5pe
    @jasonwilson-nw5pe 4 месяца назад +63

    There is no doubt phil Taylor is the greatest darts player of all time . Happy hour show some respect.

    • @samclenaghan2008
      @samclenaghan2008 4 месяца назад +10

      Agree they were so disrespectful to him. He thinks he is a big darts fan, it’s embarrassing.

    • @mcfcaguerooo5697
      @mcfcaguerooo5697 4 месяца назад +9

      He was never very popular amongst darts players or fans. That was PTs problem

    • @WilsonADW
      @WilsonADW 4 месяца назад +12

      They did say this in the full show but they had just come from a PDC event where they had all 11 champions and Phil just talked and talked about himself all night long. Wouldn't shut up. So I imagine that was fresh in their mind

    • @kurt7842
      @kurt7842 4 месяца назад

      He's also a major prick

    • @anthonyfoulkes1868
      @anthonyfoulkes1868 4 месяца назад +1

      mvg the best by an absolute mile!!!! Taylor bitter and twisted!!!!!

  • @Hotspur1882
    @Hotspur1882 4 месяца назад +1

    Massive Phil Taylor fan but he was a bit of prick but there is no doubt he is the best and greatest of all time. The power beat him every time at the worlds

  • @colingeddes2172
    @colingeddes2172 4 месяца назад +1

    MGV is a great darts player. Phil Taylor, whatever u think of him as a person, is the greatest darts player of all time. Fact! Though i wud argue, that John Lowe is the most popular darts player of all time.

  • @johnzero8923
    @johnzero8923 4 месяца назад +3

    Michael, you have a problem, there is a 16 year old kid coming for you,

  • @ericjencson9489
    @ericjencson9489 4 месяца назад +16

    Phil doesn't win 17 world championships or however many it is against todays competition.

    • @vincentmcbride6210
      @vincentmcbride6210 4 месяца назад +8

      No I agree but he'd still win more than anyone else.

    • @ericjencson9489
      @ericjencson9489 4 месяца назад +1

      @vincentmcbride6210 he'd probably be around the 3 that van Gerwin has. I'm not discounting the legacy. It was just a different Era. Everyone is better today across the board in every sport. Nobody was putting up 100 averages except Phil. Most of the guys were comparable to Fallon or Lisa Ashton. Now, guys put up 100 averages and lose.

    • @mccann82
      @mccann82 4 месяца назад +5

      Without Taylor darts doesn’t reach the level it has. Not in terms of skill and not in terms of number of tournaments or prize money. And nobody apart from MvG has came close to his level of play on a consistent basis.

    • @JP-es1nb
      @JP-es1nb 4 месяца назад

      @@mccann82agreed. Everyone had to step up to Taylor. The chase made everyone better, even if it wasn’t that generation, the next one had foundations built and so on.
      Taylor wouldn’t win as many now because everyone is better and tournaments can be be won and lost on the day. But he’d still be one of the most decorated champions because he’d also step up his game further against more competition

    • @MrSimonsonLifts
      @MrSimonsonLifts 4 месяца назад +5

      He wins more than mvgs 3 in 15-16 years though.

  • @qbrhino8875
    @qbrhino8875 4 месяца назад +2

    Phil Taylor 🐐
    End of conversation.

  • @elaineplatt8707
    @elaineplatt8707 4 месяца назад

    Greatest is about what you win

  • @eltubster14
    @eltubster14 4 месяца назад +4

    Can't believe nobody ever sparked Taylor out. He's an absolute helmet.

  • @ruleyramundo
    @ruleyramundo 4 месяца назад +3

    Taylor the player = Great.
    Taylor the person = Not Great.
    Simples 👍

  • @stevedavis6879
    @stevedavis6879 4 месяца назад

    Always remember the m.v.g tears on stage, after a taylor masterclass on him . Now thats brutal but no mention .

  • @toyanaydin8248
    @toyanaydin8248 4 месяца назад +1

    Dude's voice has built-in witness protection low-freq filter

  • @brianpaige4884
    @brianpaige4884 4 месяца назад +3

    Unfortunately your mouth can't beat Taylor's record.....

  • @loccosupreme9344
    @loccosupreme9344 4 месяца назад +5

    Taylor GOAT!! MVG... great talker....

  • @ashleyhall4ah
    @ashleyhall4ah Месяц назад

    What’s the first thing you do when you go backstage? Go for a piss!! Bloody brilliant…

  • @philbrownsey-hughes2793
    @philbrownsey-hughes2793 4 месяца назад

    Have met both in public! Taylor was way more approachable than Shrek!