The devs have embraced the entire 80"s thing when they programmed the LMG's to have tight hip fire. That way, one can finally satisfy their desire to go Rambo.
@@jortepap Still pretty pointless. You're still a gazillion times slower then everyone else. Better take advantage from the stoner and m60's better damage and range values.
LMGs are what I'm gonna do next after I finish my SMGs. Looking forward to it after seeing this. At least you don't need them point blanks like you do for the SMGs
@@julianscomposer M60 is good in theory, but I dont handle the slow fire rate very well. The slower something fires, the more the ttk increases when you miss a shot. So I prefer the stoner.
@@Deathmare235 nah Bro ads is very good on them the ads of lmgs in modern warfare was trahs but you actually move like a fucking AR and the lmgs are to op especially rpd und stoner lol
@@asmith8190 If you try to challenge lmg users from long range you obviously die, if you get too close they will destroy you with the amazing hipfire so basically the only way to kill an lmg user is while they are reloading (seriously) lmgs are literally the most broken guns in this game
@@asmith8190 The Task Force Barrel is super amazing with almost no downsides at all. Losing ammo? who cares! I got 70 something shots. Hipfire USED TO be a problem in COD games as Ace states right in the video, but its very good in this game. LMGs in this game are stronger up close due to valid hipfire, pack more damage than assault rifles, and have overall no need to make any attachment for recoil. You can literally speed the gun and movement up to match near assault rifles....for more damage.....and you're gold. The Stoner is a high tier weapon for sure. It has a higher rate of fire than the ak and krig, more damage per shot, and better hip fire than the assault rifle category and more bullets per clip. What upsides do the assault rifles really have? more movement while shooting? thats not much. Also at ANY RANGE it takes 2 headshots to decrease ttk, whereas every other gun in the game its only certain ranges where it helps. the TTK for this gun is faster than all of the assault rifles dude. its literally, factually better than all assault rifles. lol If you want to take that further and compare to the tactical rifles the range and bullet velocity is better than all of those too and a higher rate of fire. dont know what other set of data you need to see Stoner is a top tier gun.
@@sammy_1178 first of all better hipfire than ars doesnt mean godlike op hipfire or that they can outclass smgs up close, second of all there is more than one way to challenge them. if theyre on the move, they are snails and lose every gunfight regardless of hipfire. if they camp, you know what angle they hold and can do w/e you want. go around, throw nades, dont challenge, literally what ever you want. thats why i said they are only good for camping. they win gunfights if you challenge their camping position up front. thats the only thing they do. if they were any better, all the smg and ar users, especially the tryhard kids, would use lmgs. but they dont. and you know why? because lmgs are stupid camper weapons and nothing else. not op.
@@asmith8190 idk about you but the problem in my lobbies is when multiple LMG users end up on the opposite teams its like you cannot even get out of your spawn, their TTK is insane it's like they are playing hardcore in core matches ffs
This way they can add it later as "Look! Additional content for old weapons!" like MW19 did with .41AE and Dragon's Breath. They also could be working to bring back the HK21 from Black Ops 1 as the "Hybrid" LMG/AR weapon.
First gun i got gold, lmg's were first class i got diamond. IMO its the best gun in the game for medium to long range. I always take out camping snipers, i dont rush but i slowly move forward locking down zones. I have a domination setup with 2 smoke grenades and the heat vision scope i will lock B dom down for an entire game I have a 5.75 win ratio on domination and will always have 25+ objective kills.Love this gun
Your video was awesome as well as your review. All of the info was extremely detailed without making it seem excessive or filled with filler content and made me actually understand it all without confusion or constant rewinding.
I pretty much quit playing cod like 2 months ago, AND I basically use the same 5 attachments for every single weapon in game, but I still watch these vids to be supportive lol
Absolutely my favorite gun at the moment, not that I really play all that often. It’s a blast to use, and doesn’t make me feel like I’m nerfing or hindering myself in the ways most LMGs tend to feel, which I love since they are my favorite weapon type in most games. That being said, it also doesn’t feel truly overpowered because just like Ace stated, the downsides it does have aren’t exactly small downsides. I love this gun. And the name is just an added perk.
I remember when no one used this weapon, and I’d always be the only one running it in every match. Now we got lots of people using it. Not gatekeeping, just stating that the gun was fucking slept on criminally up until every content creator has made videos regarding its strengths and performance especially for WZ. It’s still my number 1 weapon and I’m still dropping folks from across the map.
So far this is my favourite gun in the game. If kitted out right with some play style adjustment, I feel really comfortable being aggressive with this weapon. The accuracy is so good with iron sights and yes maybe the best hip firing weapon out of all of my class set ups. Plus I just find it a lot of fun to use, definitely recommend giving it a try.
M60 is really meant for Combined Arms and maybe Dirty Bomb. The only downside in those modes is the potentially bouncy horizontal recoil, making the Foregrip or Field Agent Grip almost necessary.
The Stoner 63 is by far my favorite gun. All I do is spray and wallbang people. Especially in Raid when enemies spawn at the garage and just keep trying to do sniper battles into that kitchen area. It's great.
I grinded for diamond LMGs right out the gate and have used them since and with the right attachments, I can confirm this is the best weapon category in the game. Unpopular opinion: with attachments the M60 is the best gun in the game, like it’s the greatest LMG I have ever used and I started playing annually in BO2. The black ops Cold War M60 is my favorite weapon in cod history.
I use this gun a lot and it is a killer weapon. You do have to adjust your game play slightly with more pre aiming but you can definitely push with it. It absolutely melts people
The Stoner was probably one of my favourite guns to go for Gold on, took me the least amount of time of any gun aside from the Tac Rifles so it must be good. Looking forward to trying out your class.
I remember with WW2 I really enjoyed the LMGs but with Modern Warfare I had a hard time with the LMGs. A few weeks ago I picked up the Stoner and RPD just to say I tried it. I really haven’t put them down since.
Top tier weapon in the game My class for this weapon is this: Agency Suppressor, 21.8" Task Force, Stable Laser Sight, Fast Mags and the Airbone Elastic Wrap My second weapon is the Hauer 77 Tactical : Stimshot Lethal : C4 Field upgrade : Assault Pack Wilcard : Perk Greed Perks 1 : Flak Jacket and Tactical Mask Perks 2 : Assassin and Gearhead Perks 3 : Cold-Blooded and Ghost This is my class for the 12 vs 12 Domination, enjoy
This with the thermal sight on Nuketown. Erases the bunny hopping ghost + dead silence SMG n'a naabs from existence. Makes them rage so much when they see me camping in the back with my thermal diamond Stoner. Works with the M60 as well.
That's a fun coincidence, but that's not the reason it's named that lol. It's named that because it was originally designed in 1963 by Eugene Stoner, the same guy who designed the AR-15 rifles (that became the M16 and M4 series of rifles for the military).
@@jat7989 Yup. He was definitely a visionary and ahead of his time for sure. Just goes to show how genius he is/was when we're still using basically the same rifles (AR-15/M16/M4 series) almost 60 years later
If you spot your enemy withjn about 12m, you should start firing before you aim down sight. Its so slow to aim, its actually kind of smooth and you can often find your target quickly once the sights focus, allowing you to nail a headshot or 2 to finish off your enemy after the hipfire has reduced them to near death and made them flinch enough to not kill you.
In my opinion I feel like it's the second best LMG only because the fact that the M60 when fully kitted out can have negative recoil as well as a 2 shot headshot, so it can really be used to challenge snipers at long ranges
Stoner is just an upgrade to all classes longer range than the ar's faster ttk than the smg's a huge mag and the only downside is speed which doesn't mean much in warzone and 6v6 maps that arent nuketown
@@sammy_1178 true you just have to play long range in spawn its unfair af i always die after moving 3 feet off spawn because theres like 4 dudes with stoners each holding an angle in my spawn
I think the good hipfire is to offset the really slow ADS so the guns aren't completely helpless in 6v6 if you get jumped with it out Obviously this isn't so much of an issue in big modes where these guns tend to be more prevalent though
Since I only play combine arms now I don't need a fast class but the stoner was definitely one of my favorite weapons and with this aggressive build ace showed I can push alil with it I usually was just holding down a power point or lane
Definitely not the same Stoner 63 from the original Black Ops. The Cold War one is still a beast of a different kind, especially in Warzone, but the original Stoner had an insanely good mobility stat for LMGs and a ridiculous rate of fire AND a permanent three hit kill range! The only downsides were its “small” magazine (except not really when Extended to 60) and recoil, and that’s it.
I knew there was something weird about LMG hip fire in this game. I was leveling up all the weapons in MP to unlock the zombies challenges and whenever I would hipfire first then aim in gunfights, I would get their health down a lot before I fully ADS’d 😂
I kinda get why LMGs have good hipfire. LMGs are heavy hipfire machines that were built for sustained fire in real life. Because they're heavy they're not gonna bounce around as much, unless they fire really fast.
Can I just ask, for future videos like this, could you show us the recoil after putting all the attachments on please? I dunno if it's just me but I'd love to see the difference Much love for the work you put into your videos Ace
Nuketown playlist:
3 Stoners with Thermal
1 Knifer and Smokes
1 AK74u CoD pro tryhard
1 person camping lanes with sniper
Mines just snipers and knifers
And when u try to rush they pull out there damn galo sa 12
Dead ass bro lmao
I don't know what class I'm in but mine are usually 1 LMG and 3-4 COD Pros with SMGs and sniper secondaries... Sniper rifle doubles as a shotgun...
accurate but usually its just 6 74u 😂
*joins a match*
Everyone in the match using the Stoner 63: Welcome to Three Shotville.
Welcome to INSTAKILL
Welcome to stonerville
Welcome to stonerville. I'm going to use 3x axial sights and camp in the window, back of the map and doorway in nuketown
@@burritoburrito3151 or they use a thermal
Grab an AUG.
What do u mean u dont see it used too often. Every lobby has like 4 players with stoners camping on headglitches
I've only seen it once or twice in a 3-week span.
@@Eethurtacles Me too, roughly. But half of my lobby is using snipers and burst rifles. TTK is so unbalanced in this game.
@@2MeterLP I don't see either of them. If I'm being honest, my lobbies don't actually have a noticeable meta.
Especially in Combined Arms, where one can actually play somewhat aggressively with it because of the large maps.
@Username Dylan I enjoy the M60 as well.
The devs have embraced the entire 80"s thing when they programmed the LMG's to have tight hip fire. That way, one can finally satisfy their desire to go Rambo.
Running around hip firing holding the tomahawk with the Gun-Ho perk in hardcore. Really pisses people off
Facts
Everyone who has played Nuketown knows how much this gun triggers people.
It’s not the gun that triggers people but the person who uses it. Especially if their in hardcore just spraying inside garage of yellow house
@@hdgrimey Its the gun and the players. This gun rewards hard scoping very much while people playing this always camp at dirty positions.
People headglitching and locking down lanes with a fully upgraded stoner as they spawn kill people with that wall penetration.
Yup
People have given LMGs a bad reputation, and it's pretty sad.
Ace: "I don't see the stoner used often, it's underrated."
Me: WHAT. We live in different worlds.
Agree, I've never hated a gun more
Sometimes when I get headshoted with this I think a sniper killed me until I see the kill came
Its like everywhere. I even found a lad camping in my kitchen this morning with one.
The best lmg in the game
It’s very good but the m60 is insane too
I prefer RPD.
It has even lower recoil. (with the same high damage per shot)
And the faster movement speed feels great compared to Stoner
@@jortepap Still pretty pointless. You're still a gazillion times slower then everyone else. Better take advantage from the stoner and m60's better damage and range values.
Absolutely yes the best lmg in the game
*gun
This gun is fun to use, but if you get a full party camping with these things, it’s a little piece of hell
Yes! It gets so bad I start to cry
Yes! It gets so bad I start to cry.
me and my friends usually use this with the china lake and gas mines in the tunnel in garrison. it's disgusting how well it works
@@loganwilliams8043 China lakes?
@@espinita. the Grenade launcher in special category
I just grinded for diamond lmg’s this past week and they are actually insane - throw some speed attachments and task force barrel and you’re set
Dude grind for Dark Aether with LMGs. The Stoner and M60 practically Wonder Weapons.
LMGs are what I'm gonna do next after I finish my SMGs. Looking forward to it after seeing this. At least you don't need them point blanks like you do for the SMGs
Nobody gonna mention he shot down a predator missile?! I never know you could do that.....
Lol. I was just about to comment the same thing but figured I’d read down thru first assuming I wasn’t the only one. That’s crazy
The only full auto gun that can reliably challenge snipers at sniping distance.
M60 though.
Which shouldn’t be a thing..
@@julianscomposer the fire rate in the M60 is pretty slow. I find that I Miss more with the M60. The stoner is relentless
@@julianscomposer M60 is good in theory, but I dont handle the slow fire rate very well. The slower something fires, the more the ttk increases when you miss a shot. So I prefer the stoner.
@@saxboss1 Snipers really need flinch. It feels so unfair to hit 3-4 hits on a sniper and still get one shot killed. Snipers are OP in CW in general.
I actually really like all of the LMG's in the game. They all feel so powerful and have a punch to them
Bc they r op af
Seth Woodruff
@@breezyyeezy8858 they’re ads is trash though
@@Deathmare235 nah Bro ads is very good on them the ads of lmgs in modern warfare was trahs but you actually move like a fucking AR and the lmgs are to op especially rpd und stoner lol
@@breezyyeezy8858 The LMGs ads was even better in the beta
I love the Stoner, I use it to take down enemy streaks, and it's very effective
Indeed
@Username Dylan I know, it's just easier for me to use the Stoner to do it
it's also the only gun with a high enough M/V to reliably shoot down a gunship
@Username Dylan I didn’t realize streaks in multiplayer count as vehicle damage until reading ur comment
This guns stupid good. Easily a top tier weapon. It melts.
nope. its good for camping and thats all. and if you camp, youre bad. every ar or smg performs better for normal people
@@asmith8190 If you try to challenge lmg users from long range you obviously die, if you get too close they will destroy you with the amazing hipfire so basically the only way to kill an lmg user is while they are reloading (seriously) lmgs are literally the most broken guns in this game
@@asmith8190 The Task Force Barrel is super amazing with almost no downsides at all. Losing ammo? who cares! I got 70 something shots. Hipfire USED TO be a problem in COD games as Ace states right in the video, but its very good in this game. LMGs in this game are stronger up close due to valid hipfire, pack more damage than assault rifles, and have overall no need to make any attachment for recoil. You can literally speed the gun and movement up to match near assault rifles....for more damage.....and you're gold. The Stoner is a high tier weapon for sure. It has a higher rate of fire than the ak and krig, more damage per shot, and better hip fire than the assault rifle category and more bullets per clip. What upsides do the assault rifles really have? more movement while shooting? thats not much. Also at ANY RANGE it takes 2 headshots to decrease ttk, whereas every other gun in the game its only certain ranges where it helps. the TTK for this gun is faster than all of the assault rifles dude. its literally, factually better than all assault rifles. lol If you want to take that further and compare to the tactical rifles the range and bullet velocity is better than all of those too and a higher rate of fire. dont know what other set of data you need to see Stoner is a top tier gun.
@@sammy_1178 first of all better hipfire than ars doesnt mean godlike op hipfire or that they can outclass smgs up close, second of all there is more than one way to challenge them. if theyre on the move, they are snails and lose every gunfight regardless of hipfire. if they camp, you know what angle they hold and can do w/e you want. go around, throw nades, dont challenge, literally what ever you want. thats why i said they are only good for camping. they win gunfights if you challenge their camping position up front. thats the only thing they do. if they were any better, all the smg and ar users, especially the tryhard kids, would use lmgs. but they dont. and you know why? because lmgs are stupid camper weapons and nothing else. not op.
@@asmith8190 idk about you but the problem in my lobbies is when multiple LMG users end up on the opposite teams its like you cannot even get out of your spawn, their TTK is insane it's like they are playing hardcore in core matches ffs
Y’all need to use the 3x sight it’s great for long distance
I like the visiontech scope myself
Glad you're getting into LMG's now. Wondering how my RPD class will stack up to the one you made.
Im honestly so confused as to why they didnt bring back the standard mag as an attachment like the stoner was in BO1.
Perhaps they might bring that attachment in later seasons just like MW did with its guns like the 41 AE ammo conversion for the Uzi.
Guns annoying af as it is currently bcos it’s so good. A mag that makes it faster and reload faster would hard clear it as best gun in the game
@@adamali1165 yeah that weapon would be op if wasnt because of its very slow reload and ads
@@leaderofthepatriots they introduced the 41 ae mag to help the uzi cus it’s dog shit without that ammo conversion
This way they can add it later as "Look! Additional content for old weapons!" like MW19 did with .41AE and Dragon's Breath. They also could be working to bring back the HK21 from Black Ops 1 as the "Hybrid" LMG/AR weapon.
First gun i got gold, lmg's were first class i got diamond. IMO its the best gun in the game for medium to long range. I always take out camping snipers, i dont rush but i slowly move forward locking down zones. I have a domination setup with 2 smoke grenades and the heat vision scope i will lock B dom down for an entire game I have a 5.75 win ratio on domination and will always have 25+ objective kills.Love this gun
You play like a weenie then is what your saying
@@theaveragegamerguy5989 I imagine you spelt winner wrong?
Your video was awesome as well as your review. All of the info was extremely detailed without making it seem excessive or filled with filler content and made me actually understand it all without confusion or constant rewinding.
The stoner is god tier.
Stoner is OP
Man Ace is always pumping out the content. Thankful for the vids in 2021
Stoner: *exists*
Nuketown: *welcome to Spawnkill town*
@Vladislav Variagin that is okay. I like anime. You dont. Simple.
I pretty much quit playing cod like 2 months ago, AND I basically use the same 5 attachments for every single weapon in game, but I still watch these vids to be supportive lol
The Stoner was the second gun I maxed out (First was the XM4). Love the gun and still use it a lot.
“Stoners are very underrated” my entire lobby using stoners and bullfrogs every game
The Stoner with laser sight is DIRTY.
It’s a dirty game... may as well be stoned✌🏻🇺🇸
The stoner is kinda my favorite LMG in the game cuz it's laser accurate and it has a solid TTK.
Absolutely my favorite gun at the moment, not that I really play all that often. It’s a blast to use, and doesn’t make me feel like I’m nerfing or hindering myself in the ways most LMGs tend to feel, which I love since they are my favorite weapon type in most games. That being said, it also doesn’t feel truly overpowered because just like Ace stated, the downsides it does have aren’t exactly small downsides. I love this gun. And the name is just an added perk.
Finally, the best SMG in the game.
No seriously, put a laser on, it’s so stupidly good
Yes I love hip firing these lmgs! Ridiculously Schwarzeneggeresque
It’s also the best assault rifle, best sniper, best tac rifle etc...
Shooting the wall on the plane in Checkmate while capping B from the A side. *shivers* almost gave me a PTSD attack
Yeah who cares about ADS when you can just hipfire as well as an SMG
Dude this gun is OP and I won’t be told otherwise
Maybe you just not as good as you think
Stoner is soo good
I remember when no one used this weapon, and I’d always be the only one running it in every match. Now we got lots of people using it. Not gatekeeping, just stating that the gun was fucking slept on criminally up until every content creator has made videos regarding its strengths and performance especially for WZ. It’s still my number 1 weapon and I’m still dropping folks from across the map.
Very informative! I didn’t know you could also shoot down Cruise missiles too.
So far this is my favourite gun in the game. If kitted out right with some play style adjustment, I feel really comfortable being aggressive with this weapon. The accuracy is so good with iron sights and yes maybe the best hip firing weapon out of all of my class set ups. Plus I just find it a lot of fun to use, definitely recommend giving it a try.
This was a beast,I just subscribed, good content.
In Warzone, the gun is even more crazy. The recoil is LITERALLY a vertical line
Can't believe how good the lmgs are in this game...
Except the M60
M60 op☹️
It's not the gun its the user
M60 is really meant for Combined Arms and maybe Dirty Bomb. The only downside in those modes is the potentially bouncy horizontal recoil, making the Foregrip or Field Agent Grip almost necessary.
Who dislikes these videos? This guy is amazing at what he does. I love watching these videos. So helpful. Haters need to back off.
The Stoner 63 is by far my favorite gun. All I do is spray and wallbang people. Especially in Raid when enemies spawn at the garage and just keep trying to do sniper battles into that kitchen area. It's great.
I found out that the stoner was goated in the beginning of this game
I used it with a type 63 and the type was OP as frek in the alpha
@@Your_Egyptian_Papi yeah I remember I used to pair the type 63 with the ak-74, it was really toxic
I grinded for diamond LMGs right out the gate and have used them since and with the right attachments, I can confirm this is the best weapon category in the game.
Unpopular opinion: with attachments the M60 is the best gun in the game, like it’s the greatest LMG I have ever used and I started playing annually in BO2. The black ops Cold War M60 is my favorite weapon in cod history.
I use this gun a lot and it is a killer weapon. You do have to adjust your game play slightly with more pre aiming but you can definitely push with it. It absolutely melts people
The LSAT's Grandfather 😎👍👍
Great video! Gonna work towards the first setup!
This is the first and only gun I’ve leveled up and it’s easily the best gun in the game for LMG style players
Love your videos, can’t wait to see the RPD’s. My fav lmg
This was the second gun I got max level. It's a tank and I've never been one to use LMGs. Locking down B flag in Dom is my main use for this.
In MP and WZ gun is simply amazing
I actually think it's the best gun in the game.
Definitely the best full-auto. Those tactical rifles are a bit mean in MP and WZ
Watching this on March 20th 2021 and this gun is literally everywhere now in CW multiplayer
The best gun and it's not even close
Best gun to use for dirty bomb game mode so far. love the videos short and simple keep 'em coming
easily the best lmg. the m60 is also fantastic
The Stoner was probably one of my favourite guns to go for Gold on, took me the least amount of time of any gun aside from the Tac Rifles so it must be good. Looking forward to trying out your class.
I remember with WW2 I really enjoyed the LMGs but with Modern Warfare I had a hard time with the LMGs. A few weeks ago I picked up the Stoner and RPD just to say I tried it. I really haven’t put them down since.
Top tier weapon in the game
My class for this weapon is this:
Agency Suppressor, 21.8" Task Force, Stable Laser Sight, Fast Mags and the Airbone Elastic Wrap
My second weapon is the Hauer 77
Tactical : Stimshot
Lethal : C4
Field upgrade : Assault Pack
Wilcard : Perk Greed
Perks 1 : Flak Jacket and Tactical Mask
Perks 2 : Assassin and Gearhead
Perks 3 : Cold-Blooded and Ghost
This is my class for the 12 vs 12 Domination, enjoy
Great now the entire cod community is going to be using this gun. It was my favorite gun and most used so far but now ace just killed it. Thanks man
I love SBMM!
nice joke
Is this another way of saying you're shit?
@@pissy4476 umm probably "use my creator code"
i’ve been so busy this is the first gun guide i’ve seen 😔i hate adulting
This is my jam for distance skirmishes
This with the thermal sight on Nuketown. Erases the bunny hopping ghost + dead silence SMG n'a naabs from existence.
Makes them rage so much when they see me camping in the back with my thermal diamond Stoner. Works with the M60 as well.
Fun fact: the police code,here in the US, for marijuana is...63 😆 this things called the stoner 63 😆
That's a fun coincidence, but that's not the reason it's named that lol. It's named that because it was originally designed in 1963 by Eugene Stoner, the same guy who designed the AR-15 rifles (that became the M16 and M4 series of rifles for the military).
@@kasper_429 stoner was a very intelligent guy.. the stoner is 6 guns in 1
@@jat7989 Yup. He was definitely a visionary and ahead of his time for sure.
Just goes to show how genius he is/was when we're still using basically the same rifles (AR-15/M16/M4 series) almost 60 years later
@@kasper_429 also some of the most well know weapons.. Like every has heard of an m16
@@kasper_429 Stoner and Kalashnikov are essentially the godfathers of modern firearms
Cool!
You could also rank the vehicles in this game! Idk
Yes a vid where he reviews them maybe not a ranking
@@ArjunSingh-cp1li yeah thats what I mean
Yeah if you rank them then all the water vehicles would be low on the tier.
If you spot your enemy withjn about 12m, you should start firing before you aim down sight. Its so slow to aim, its actually kind of smooth and you can often find your target quickly once the sights focus, allowing you to nail a headshot or 2 to finish off your enemy after the hipfire has reduced them to near death and made them flinch enough to not kill you.
In my opinion I feel like it's the second best LMG only because the fact that the M60 when fully kitted out can have negative recoil as well as a 2 shot headshot, so it can really be used to challenge snipers at long ranges
This is honestly my favorite gun in the game. So incredibly deadly. And it was my first gold gun without me even realizing i got it gold.
It's my favorite gun in the game. Put a four-time optics on it and erase snipers on satellite and Miami
So this is the Bruen replacement, nice.
My go to weapon. Always.
Stoner is just an upgrade to all classes longer range than the ar's faster ttk than the smg's a huge mag and the only downside is speed which doesn't mean much in warzone and 6v6 maps that arent nuketown
even in nuketown it doesnt matter, with the long ass lines of sights and insane hipfire
@@sammy_1178 true you just have to play long range in spawn its unfair af i always die after moving 3 feet off spawn because theres like 4 dudes with stoners each holding an angle in my spawn
This is a crazy weapon, absolutely love it. Looks great in diamond camo.
Great video watched it 5 times already!
LMGs slept on in my opinion.
I think the good hipfire is to offset the really slow ADS so the guns aren't completely helpless in 6v6 if you get jumped with it out
Obviously this isn't so much of an issue in big modes where these guns tend to be more prevalent though
Best gun in the game period
Since I only play combine arms now I don't need a fast class but the stoner was definitely one of my favorite weapons and with this aggressive build ace showed I can push alil with it I usually was just holding down a power point or lane
Definitely not the same Stoner 63 from the original Black Ops. The Cold War one is still a beast of a different kind, especially in Warzone, but the original Stoner had an insanely good mobility stat for LMGs and a ridiculous rate of fire AND a permanent three hit kill range! The only downsides were its “small” magazine (except not really when Extended to 60) and recoil, and that’s it.
I went 22 and 1 the other day with the stoner and streetsweeper seriously good if you set up for mobility
Seeing this hip fire spread makes me think of the M429 with grip in Modern Warfare and makes me want to make a hip fire class
For me Best gun in the game😍
I literally an hour ago started usng this gun youtube be on another level of lnowing your life
I knew there was something weird about LMG hip fire in this game. I was leveling up all the weapons in MP to unlock the zombies challenges and whenever I would hipfire first then aim in gunfights, I would get their health down a lot before I fully ADS’d 😂
Once your aimed in this is the best gun in the game
I was waiting for this to become meta. Seems like it’s gonna happen now
Itll be meta for campers
This gun is overpowered
I kinda get why LMGs have good hipfire.
LMGs are heavy hipfire machines that were built for sustained fire in real life. Because they're heavy they're not gonna bounce around as much, unless they fire really fast.
Best gun in the game in my opinion!
My favorite is this Stoner 63 fully maxed out and I use thermal scope online gratifyme
Ahhhh yes this is gonna be a good one
Stoner 63 = 🐐
Oooh my favorite gun since the beta !
The only weapon that feels like a weapon from the older black ops
Hands down the best gun in the game.
Can I just ask, for future videos like this, could you show us the recoil after putting all the attachments on please? I dunno if it's just me but I'd love to see the difference
Much love for the work you put into your videos Ace
This gun is the most underrated gun in the game. I think it is a top 3 weapon for lower skilled players no joke
Dude in a high SBMM its everywhere... definitely not underrated.
I love this gun. It suits my play style and I use it WZ a lot.
You ought to include a section of each gun guide for warzone stats and best loadout
I save lmgs for zombies and its one map. A ton of fun is the sledgehammer requirement. ✌
I just can't wait for all the info to come out for these lmgs on the WZ side of the house. All of the lmgs feel good to me granted I love lmgs
Currently my favorite gun in the game.