Honestly, respect to the madlad that modifies an actual bike to replicate hers - That shit would be mad expensive, but if someone managed to make their own custom, they'd have my inherent respect just because of how massive of a project it'd be- Not sure if it'd be road safe though lol
@vivianameganviviana3486 not just replicating the motorbike but actually making a cosplay with the helmet that mavuika appears to wear in early access
True. People skip so much lore that they even don't know Xianyun casually built bike just to win a stupid race against moon carver. She also built like 100s of super duper high tech stuff all the time.
Listen, this ain’t the first time we’ve heard of motorcycles cause let’s all remember how Shenhe said Cloud retainer made a Motorcycle to race Moon Carver…so shit like this ain’t new
Thank you! You’re the first person I’ve seen who’s acknowledged the ancient advanced dragon society and why it might lead to what we consider modern technology!
According to intellegent people playing this game having a modern thing in this game seems wrong but a futuristic thing like Sumeru's computers and Fontaine's mechs are fine.
@@bujub7250 ya Nahida literally has a cursor and dragging it in her charged attack like how you do that on desktop :sob: and those same iNteLliGenT pEoPle complaining why Natlan has DJ stuff and motorcycle...... like literally look around you for once? look at Dendro as a whole? like hello? (saying that to those dumb people who complain, not you)
Xilonen still doesn't have a voice about Mavuika I think. I mean, not released. It is there but is blocked by "???". My guess is that she made this bike for Mavuika and that is exactly why she said in her quest that Archon's demands are wild sometimes 😅
Yes, they blocked that after what happened with Neuvi because he outright tells you in his lines even before quest that he regains is authority of hydro sovereign.
1. Dragons had the most advanced technology (Nation of Dragons) 2. War speeds up/encourages advancements (Nation of War) 3. They are separate from Teyvat kind of (meaning all Natlan talent is going toward the war/advancements) 4. Would you rather ride a penny farthing or a phlogiston powered motorcycle lmao
+ Fire is probably the element most identic to industrialization as most of it uses are industrial and technological related aside from electricity (combustion engine/propulsion, forging, cooking, heating, weaponries (firearms, bombs), etc) but with lower significance in nature, unlike water, air, earth, ice. But Natlan is based on tribal society, you cannot merge fire uses with tribal society unless you make it symbolic or fantasy, since most fire uses will be higher in industrial, technologically advanced society.
the second argument is absolutely ridiculous because the common folk was fighting with swords and spears against the abyss. you can’t show people with pre-industrial surviving conditions, and then claim they’re actually pretty technologically advanced
@@monshine444 Except you forgot that Natlan warriors are sometimes equipped with rocket hammers and other advanced weaponry. I think it is more of the fact that they focus on giving the best equipment to their elite warriors which makes sense heck the two tribes quests touch on the subject of unrestricted technology.
It feels like we advence in modern in every nation! Ayato boba tea, Wifi in Summeru , all the machnic in Fontaine, then Natlan and Technolgy ! I see no issue with it at all !
ya just rmbr that Phlogiston is the original system of Teyvat created by the dragons, the 7 elements and everything technological we see in the world is a branch of that. so it makes sense for there to be technological stuff in the world. and thats something complainers choose to forget so they can keep complaining out their ass cuz they dont know what tf theyre talking about.
The funniest (most annoying) ones are where the uploader has the audacity to put SPOILER in the title of the video, but have the thumbnail directly show the leak/spoiler in question Like, my bad for having peripheral vision I guess
I don't care how many people say they don't like the motorcycle because it doesn't fit into genshin. I like it, it's awesome, and is probably one of the coolest things ever.
I think tbe bike is great too but at the same time I think its valid criticism that the bike looks out of place because it is they could have made it feel more fantasy vibe yk?
@@pearlord11 the thing is that mentality is wrong cuz its obvious loreskipper take. the ancient dragons were far more technological than what we see in game. please read the lore.
@@gabbygabgabs except it isn't a wrong mentality at all because the only person using Dragon Tech in Natlan is KINICH. There is NO use of ancient Dragon tech by any other Natlan character in day-to-day life AT ALL. it is not well implemented in the worldbuilding, hence it's out of place.
@@TheJH1015You do know that phlogiston is ancient dragon fuel for their tech, right? Something that can be found all over Natlan? Chasca's gun, Kachina's drill, Xilonen's skates and even the ancient names use phlogiston.
Yeah, Natlan's monopoly on ancient dragon tech and Phlogiston is what makes this technology possible I think it could've been a bit less modern-looking, but still pretty cool. Definitely the type of thing that would've given a 1.0 player from four years ago a heart attack
Also in Fountaine if you do one of the side quests of Liyue, one scientist explains that with the water levels and most of the research underwater, the research owners essentially don’t seem to care to have a structure or any good regulations making the inventions be rather disorganized. In Inazuma is easy to know given they are mostly into martial arts. Sumeru was so focus on ruhkadevata and keeping her legacy than do anything noteworthy.
honestly super excited about mavuika's trailer ost, i can think about rock song maybe kinda like dehya's (or cyberpunk type ost) or even better, fucking phonk like those tiktok edits songs lmaoo that'd actually kinda be on theme too since brazilian phonk is a thing that's super popular
Close enough... Spoilers ahead.. Her Burst is essentially the remake of the natlans quick swap between characters but additionally includes mavuika riding her bike in the air then jumping into the screen performing a himeko-esque slash
Why even say that pls don't ruin people's experiences EVEN IF YOU PUT a SPOILER It will be more fun for them to see official info or SMTH but not that@@zennir48
Its all the phlogiston that works both as fuel and electricity inside natlan, but it only works for a few seconds outside natlan. Thats how all "machinery" is powered there like kachinas drill, mavuikas bike, kinich's bracelet etc
Except vibanium benefited the whole nation and was shown all over the city. Phlistogen technology is shown by like 5 characters in the whole nation and looks incoherent
i just wish they designed her bike more unique, like botw’s horse motorbike but make it dragon. since like this, she looks like she came from ZZZ or Dragon Raja instead of Genshin impact
People often forget that Genshin is a fantasy game and can have any time period it wants so i dont get why ppl complaim about her having a bike.. like IT LOOKS AMAZING ASDGRHRHDGSBSGDGSJXNCN
I've said it before and I'll say it again, because i agree with this sentiment going around whenever this is discussed: it is almost never actually because of the fact the tech exists in game. It's because there is no context surrounding specific tech from Natlan, and it doesn't currently fit into its own aesthetic in game. It is "losing the plot" as they say because it doesn't feel like fantasy versions of modern things (Akasha system, etc.) it feels like modern things in a fantasy world. One of the world quests in the new region did kind of make me buy more into Kinich's (mostly Ajaw's but still) design being so pixelated and computerized, but even then, he still had video games as his demo theme (I loved it but that doesn't make it fit well for others). Fontaine is still living in a steampunk world and then you have motorbikes, DJs, etc in Natlan... it feels off to people and I find that completely fair. It's not stylized. Not even getting into the excessively modern clothing that's very streetwear aesthetic which takes us even further out of the fantasy vibe. That's not even getting into the widely held belief that their desire to use culture without more rep also ties into them avoiding using deeper culture and instead just using modernity as the gimmick itself.
Makes sense, but Natlan is the nation of dragons and in Genshin the dragons had advanced technology. So it does kinda make sense that Natlan would have some level of advanced technology and a motorcycle isn't really what you'd call advanced technology anyways, especially when Teyvat has robots
I think its cool that Natlan has all this crazy tech, since theyre kinda supposed to be the genshin wakanda. What i don't rlly dig is the designs of the tech. On other regions, even if they had super advanced stuff, it still fit the aesthetic. Like the akasha, that looked like a glowing leaf, scaramouche's mech fit the inazuman aesthetic, nahidas skills at first just looks like magic leafs, i didnt even notice it was a computer at first. Also all of fontaine fits the steampunk aesthetic, no matter how advanced a machine is. But natlan just has a lot of clashing aesthetics, most of the region looks very traditional, but they have these straight up futuristic looking things in the middle. I wish they designed mavuikas bike and chascas gun a bit more like kachinas turbo twirly, because it alctually looked "medievalish" so to speak.
That's exactly how I feel too. Kachina's drill doesn't look out of place, because the design fits the aesthetics of her tribe. But Chasca's gun, Xilonen's rollers and Mavuika's bike have a futuristic design that makes them look out of place in a land as rural and traditional as Natlan
It would've been okay for me if they made her another random 5 star but unfortunately she's the pyro archon that's supposed to represent their nation and element. The pyro archon could've ride a saurian or horse made of flames for battle...
I would've loved to see her use a hybrid of a dragon vehicle type of thing, like that one pokemon from the Scarlet-Violet games. So she could do all the things her motorcycle supposedly does, like fly, swim, etc. While it also makes sense in the context of Natlan
i loved her outfit the first time i saw it and i had the same feeling that shes a biker girl, but i didnt think they would actually give her a bike lol its a good thing that i loved the design of her bike, its so fking cool! She even has SSJ hair and a cool personality... i have every reason to love her... its nice to see that i made a good choice by deciding to be a Main Pyro Archon since 1.0
I just cant comprehend how dragons would have ever had the need to make bikes. They're creatures who can literally fly? Just imagine dragons riding a bike and see how ridiculous it looks in your imagination.
use your brain, i seen you in other comments. you seriously think the dragons made and rode the bike? NO. the bike was made USING Phlogiston. much like how Xilonen made Kachina's drill and Chasca's gun.
I think the issue most ppl have with the bike isnt necessarly that its a bike. But that it literlly is JUST a bike. At least Sumeru's Akasha had a flower theme, or Scara boss looked like a Japanese God
I think it’s a serve! The Genshin developers really said, “PHAWK it, let’s have some fun in Natlan” and I’m enjoying every moment of it. It kinda makes me excited to see what Ifa would look like and what he’s able to do.
With every new Natlan character I feel like someone just slapped me in the face, most of the Natlan characters should be added to HSR and NOT Genshin When I started playing Genshin because it was FANTASY game not “modern and futuristic” Yes I know Mondstat and Liyue also had some “technologies” but it wasn’t….THIS ! I still love Genshin and its still my favorite game because I have too many memories and attachment to this game and Natlan in general I love but....not the characters powers and skills....
People are saying Natlan shouldn't be advanced, but war is historically a factor that has brought several technological advances, so it actually makes a little bit of sense...
so why don't we see this advance anywhere ? Why do people still live in tents and caves ? Why do they fight with traditional weapons ? Why do they travel with carts and lamas ? When we look at Natlan, their lifetsyle is probably the most "primitive" we've encountered so far. And then we have a handful of playable characters with modern clothes and hight-tech vehicles. It makes no sense. If Natlan was really advanced, we should see signs of this tech everywhere, not just on a handful of playable characters Technology in fantasy games can be great, when it's well integrated (as it was in the previous nations). But in Natlan it just feels weird and out of place.
ah yes because Chernobyl in Inazuma wasn't immersion breaking? or what about Liyue's Ninnguang flying casfle completely fueled by hopes and dreams? and even Sumeru's wifi/airpods/internet or Fontaine completely unexplainable mechs managing to control gravity? we've had giant mechs, literally electric bikes made by adepti, concrete buildings despite no apparent way Teyvat could get access to concrete but a completely Unique bike-looking elemental contstruct which uses a fual unique to Natlan is where you draw the line? what a hypocrite
@@Andre-0207 It's based mostly on the fact that Natlan does not appear to be a nation where a motorcycle would be seen, especially because the rest of the nation still uses wooden wagons to transport supplies to each other. Chernobyl in Inazuma: Powered by the crystals found around the area. Jade Chamber: uses a large amount of floating rocks Akasha system: Smaller version of the Dendro Archon's ability to access Irminsul for information and is powered by the Gnosis. Fontaine: Scientists experimenting with the natural elements of the world around them, which lead to the floating water cubes seen to the NNE of the Opera House. All of these were explained and justified accordingly and placed in the nations with the most likely probability to own such technology. Natlan, however, does not look like it has the necessary equipment to build a bike.
For those who don't know: The reason why Mavuika has a bike is because of her being based on a Maori god, at New Zealand theres alot of biker gangs which is why she has a bike. (Or they just needed a random nightsoul.)
I LOVE HOW THE NATLAN STUFF BECAUSE THE WORLD BUILDING STILL HOLDS! Natlan literally has pretty much infinite energy from the phlogiston and the ancient dragons advanced tech sure, but it still works because of the cultural taboo of leaving natlan meaning they won't take that tech anywhere else so it still makes sense the rest of teyvat is behind!
The shock factor does get ya everytime, lol. For me tho, the impact lessens knowing it's for specific characters, and i mean that in a good way. Like, even the elite warriors have some advanced tech weapons. Slings, jet hammers, etc. Maybe not to the level of the playables, but that makes sense, since those were SPECIFICALLY made for them by Xilonen so far for most of them
I've already had a certain enemy spoiled for me because of leaks. I was like "Well since I am already spoiled, might as well see her damage" and BOOM spoiled. I won't spoil the enemy I saw. I hate whenever people who give a spoiler warning... Its kinda like the Sam reveal and I know well whenever the Paimon secret gets revealed people will say it EVERYWHERE. I've started doing Archon quests the first hour of release just so I can experience it. Or I flat out don't look at YT aside from my subscriptions since the people I watch don't spoil.
I hate the fact that I can be scrolling any form of social media be it Facebook or RUclips or anything and leaks suddenly appear with no warning and I'm like great now all my excitement has vanished 😑 at least I didn't get spoiled for the Liyue character, so some excitement there, no copium to be found here 😂😂
we actually have another character who had a "bike" Xianyun's Story quest dialogue: Shenhe: Master once participated in a race against Moon Carver. After Moon Carver lost, he insisted that Master's ability to fly gave her a natural edge in such a contest. Shenhe: In response, Master agreed to forgo flying in return for being able to use one of her devices in the race. Moon Carver accepted, only to find Master with a brand-new device on the day of the contest. Paimon: So what kind of device was it? Shenhe: It was a mechanical vehicle made out of iron. What was it called again... An "Electro-Powered Bicycle"? Xianyun: You refer to the "Bi-Cyclical Thunderflash-Mobile." One spent forty-nine days conceptualizing and crafting it. It need only be infused with adeptal energy, and it can cover thousands of miles in one day. Though we didn't really get to see it, imagine Xianyun and Mavuika racing 🤣
Well having literally the base state of the elemental energy (Phlogiston) is no surprise how ther can improve technology this far (Irl a nation with a thing that powerful will improve a lot of things using it specially if its a removable energy or they can make more of it)
What I don't understand is how do people point out a bike as "modern" and "out of place", meanwhile Xianyun made her own motorcycle to beat Moon Carver, Scaramouche and Raiden are mech puppets, Scara used a gundam mech, guns are a thing in Fontaine and Natlan, Kachina uses a drill, Xilonen has a dj stereo, sumeru had an actual online web, Kind Deshret had advance techbology from another world, etc...🤦🏽♂️
Yes yes stop yaping. The difrence in ur useless examples is all of thrse fits to their region and wasnt modern. Sumeru is fkin region of wisdom it was power from ruvekedava/nahida + only ppl in sumeru city can use akasha. Since we have already android kathernye from sneznyaha and whole war thing was started bcs of scarmouche and fatui i dont see a problem that inazuma have their way to produce something like this with help from fatui which is also high advanced. Natlan is land of dragons while people use pokemons and spear to fight xD all their houses is almost always a rock or wood. No one in natlan use modern things like natlan characters so yeah bike sucks and mauvika with rest of natlan characters dont fit in genshin. Only citlali and ororon looks good rest can go
The only reason why I think it's out of place is because we don't see this modern technology in the world of Natlan. Whereas Fontaine had machines everywhere and everything thing else you mentioned can be explained through different things, like the web search thing was only able to exist with the gnosis and combining fatui technology and sumerus knowledge created scaras mech, etc. but for Natlan all they really give us as an explanation is Xilonen made it. Yes I understand the argument that the dragons were the most advanced in technology but that hasn't been fully explained. In summary if Natlan wasn't as tribal in design in the open world and added more of this kind of modern technology it wouldn't look "out of place" ( in my opinion) I mean this with no hate or disrespect just wanted to share my thoughts on this matter
@@Tomil4444 Natlan also uses Phlogiston which is how many of their technologies are made, and the dragons were the race with the most advance technology. The lore of Natlan explained that the ley lines and phlogiston were the reason why so many of those "transportation" were created, some thanks to Xilonen. Who probably made the bike for Mavuika we'll find out. Now either read Natlan lore or you can continue your argument👍
@@mayujamir6027 what I meant to say is that maybe they had the technology, and the Natlan people used said technology to create such things not that they dragons did It.
I agree with you. I mean, at some pov it might a bit out of place, but the bike, xilonen being a dj, kinich with his device, regardless how random they are, its like their theme is the modern technology like irl. People point out that those are not like genshin universe and not fantasy enough, but what if the dragons advanced tech is almost the same as irl. may be it felt out of place just bc we relate to it, but in the perspective of teyvat or genshin itself, the variety of tech and magic fantasy can be anything. That's why I don't really mind too much with the motorcycle. Sure, its a bit weird at first time, but I think we will get more explanation or related lore at later time.
The leaks about mavuika having a bike was right before 5.0. I didn't personally believe it but who the fuck would though? What's next in snezhnaya? Space Ships?
@@Kristjan0209 that would be cool but consider this: Apep is quite literally as big as like a third if not half of desert. Someone went into third person while its sprite was in the open world and tried to measure it.
I feel like when we reach Snezhnaya/Khaenriah, it's gonna be really modern, maybe more than this. If so, I'm glad they started it more apparent with Natlan so when we reach Snezhnaya/Khaenriah, it wouldn't be too shocking if we saw them in tank, jet, submarine and so on.
I’m thinking that we might see a similar level of modern as belobogs aesthetic. Then again I may be overlooking some things in the environment as I honestly have poor memory.
Snezhnaya is minimum at 1904 because of the type of gun pyro fatui uses, so yeah, it probably will be pretty modern. And considering what Libey (sorry, I don't know how to write his name) said, Snezhnaya is most probably in 1960-1990's. Krai is a USSR thing that basically means region on the edge of the country. And Libey was attacked by bandits several times so I would like to imagine that it's about dark times in USSR when bandits were controlling kinda everything. Or Hoyo can make a mix of time periods. It's a fantasy game, after all
Its different. From the beginning we already knew that Snezhnaya is the most advanced of all regions, because of Katherine and the robots we fought, they are all scattered around teyvat. On the other hand, Natlan didn’t introduce the concept of modernity, no one uses techs aside from the playable characters while the npcs live in tents/rock houses. Hoyoverse didnt do well in introducing that in this region and we all know it. The dragons are advanced but there is no explanation about them and how they crafted these things.
I feel like a part of this issue lies in the what we feel is modernity. In modern day, vehicles like motorcycles are fairly accessible to those who can afford it. Whereas in Genshin it’s very likely that the upper echelons of tech belongs solely to the military or the ruling class like our world. Natlan doesn’t quite have a ruling class other than Mavuika, as tribes are separated into what they see good at, with the Children of Echoes being their smithing and extraction of resources, the people of springs and their tourism specialties etc. The same could be applied to the adventurers guilds Katherine units, as the adventurers guild is very likely a large income to Snezhnaya and could be considered an asset of similar importance to the military. Most people in Teyvat have no access to these resources and so I hesitate to call it modern in that regard. If everyone in Natlan had motorcycles or more technology I would say that would be worse.
Mavuika's motorbike during skill/burst turns into something similar to a dragon (Xlabalaque or however you spell it made the bike after defeating the pyro sovereign !!)
you make a good point about the bike being dragon technology, goddamn AND i see people said that Xianyun also make a bike on her own goddamn Twitter really need to pay attention and now spewing nonsense just because it didn't fit with their imagination
Isn't motorcycle is just a cycle with an energy source? And in Natlan they have phlogiston, basically something from which all of Teyvat is made of (Teyvat consists of the elements and phlogiston is all of the elements combined), so energy source isn't a problem. Plus they have dragon tech. And I still think that it fits the world of Natlan, because even though they're all for traditions and culture, they do have some modern things in their civilization right now so the motorcycle doesn't look so out of place even for us, who usually thinks about motorcycles as something modern and technological
I agree, also just a slight correction (I’m sorry I can’t help myself) phlogiston could be more accurately compared raw oil or raw energy that was refined into the elements. Which makes even more sense why Natlan has a few characters with closer to ‘ridiculous’ or ‘exceptional’ elemental powers, they literally are in the land with the raw stuff of creation in it. They are born with it and are able to fuel more of their elemental powers. Even the weaker Natlan enemies seem to be able to channel elements without vision, they just refine phlogiston, which while weak is still access to some elemental power.
@MattGouverneur I thought that phlogiston is just "pure light" that some time ago got through some kind of a "prism" and got separated into 7 elements because the realm of dragons is the "realm of light" And also, didn't Xilonen used phlogiston crystal in battles and dried it out from phlogiston making it a transparent empty crystal with zero value in one of her trailers? That means that phlogiston is actually just huge batteries and using it for tech is logical Also, in the desert there are many people who can control elements just from birth. I don't know if it has any connection to being close to Natlan or if it's only because of Deshret, but it's still something interesting. Especially considering the fact that pure elemental energy is poisonous to humans because they aren't from this world so them being able to wield elements freely is really interesting
@@Tormillian it’s all so interesting, and you can look at phlogiston as ‘pure light’ going through a ‘prism’, it ultimately is a analogy that are to a similar effect, putting light through a prism technically refines and purifies the light into its separate colours. I will admit I do need to look into my Sumeru desert lore again as it’s been ages since I’ve engaged with it but it is interesting to think about. I wonder if it is potentially because of the proximity of the Celestial nail and Apep in the desert regions, given that Apep seems to exert an influence over evolution and the nail as a part of Celestia is probably highly radioactive with elemental energy it could be the case the desert people are evolving to the elements quicker. Which is interesting, as aside from vision users like in the chasm quest, we haven’t seen the effects of the Celestial nail on regular people, just the climate.
Actually, people already speculate that she might ride a bike just by looking at her outfit way back when she's been introduced in natlan teaser trailer. (Including me) i mean, look at her with the leather kinda suit like the biker gang would wear😂 and people even said that she's might look like the wuwa boss that riding the bike. *Remember this all happen way back then when she's first got introduced/teased and not because of recent leak* it's crazy that some people speculate that and it came true😂 Even tho many people didn't happy about this marketing drip. Since they expect her to ride a dragon or phoenix or some sort. I guess no matter what hoyo do, people nevr gonna be happy about it😅
The mask like part is pointy, those that mean she will charge at enemy impale them and slamming them on the nearby wall before beating them to death with her claymore
I’d genuinely would mostly forgive the modern tech if natlan as a whole fit the same aesthetic ,the guns Fontaine characters use fit the technological state their nation is , scaras mech is built in the place where there’s already older giant mechs lying around having been studied for who knows how long , so why does only the cat DJs friends get all this tech and everyone else are a bunch of tribals
Remember also that witches come from Natlan (The Little Witch and the Undying Flame), and they can both look beyond the fake sky and into Earth (Alice teaching Barbara about idols, Alice bringing Mcdonalds and KFC for example) and they live for a very very long time. Dragon power source with "live with the natural elements of the original world" tech plus witches influencing Natlanese culture by living for a long time and bringing a bunch of stuff from Earth over the ages = Natlan being more modern yet also very superstitious while also co existing with saurians (Mualani's voicelines about luck, Masters of the Night Wind thinking Citlali is a Witch, Barbeloth and Alice LITERALLY hexenzircle coven members dripmarketing Mavuika).
IMAGINE! That bike will turn into armor and Mavuike will be like a Ramatra from Overwatch just punching evryone and there sill be huge flame waves from her fists then she punch someone
I put this in a reply but i think i should make more people see this bc its so frustrating seeing the argument of ‘i mean its old dragon tech and khaenriah is techy too’ People are upset about it because of the aesthetic not the actual items. Sumeru and fontaine were fine because fontaine is steampunk and has been hyper up as ‘the techy nation’ since 1.0, and steampunk already has an established role visually in traditional fantasy genres, and sumeru was very elf magic-y. Nahida magic LOOKs like a magical projection and dendro is already kind of the light/techy element so its pre established as well. Khaenriah and king deshret stuff falls under the same catagory as the dwemer from elder scrolls aka Long Lost Civilisation that has Tech We Dont Understand, and generally follows the aesthetic of that. We had absolutely non of this for natlan. No one came out of natlan like ‘woah theres this sick ass tech sometimes’ all we knew was ‘nation of war’ and ‘woah dragons’ from neuvillette lol. The justification for natlan stuff is just “xilonen made it lol” and “phlogiston lol” and they made pretty much 0 effort to actuallt design it in a way that fits the world of genshin aesthetically. Mavuikas motorbike looks like something from cyberpunk 2077 lol, and xilonens dj set looks so modern in comparison to the npc dj set at the children of echos. Kinich has a ben 10 watch lmfao (but thats at least partially explained by Ajaw himself since he is literally the spirit of a dragon from that time or something.) Its like watching an elf from LOTR pull out an iphone 15 and being like “its magic lol” without making an effort to make it LOOK magical, its just an iphone 15 lol. Zelda is a good example of tech implemented in a non anachronistic way, specifically with a motorbike lol. Its fine to like the break in genre, and its fine to break genre in general, but it was done so sloppy and was so uncreative on genshins part that i think the people who find it anachronistic are completely within their rights to dislike it.
i wouldn't say that, but with mavuika it's definitely the case, especially cause she's the archon and arguably the most hyped char for the 5.x patches and so, the leaks were everywhere and additionally, the late drip marketing only added fuel to the fire
whether the artist do it intentionally or subconsciously , the bike design is definitely influenced by the long running Japanese Anti-Hero live action TV series " Kamen Rider " specifically the Kuuga / Agito time , and not to mention the anime Akira as well
Everytime a new Natlan character is released the less i want to come back to Genshin, it might be great for people currently playing, but for me, it feels way too off to the Genshin i know
I cant wait to see some guy replicate mavuika’s bike. Some of genshin players are so talented
Honestly, respect to the madlad that modifies an actual bike to replicate hers - That shit would be mad expensive, but if someone managed to make their own custom, they'd have my inherent respect just because of how massive of a project it'd be- Not sure if it'd be road safe though lol
@vivianameganviviana3486 not just replicating the motorbike but actually making a cosplay with the helmet that mavuika appears to wear in early access
And I bet that guy is already working on it too
@@the2ds so are you the leak spoiler that Bran keeps getting spoiled by
@@gabbygabgabs and I stand proud by that name
Xianyun making a whole motorcycle for a bet crying in the corner: 😅
True. People skip so much lore that they even don't know Xianyun casually built bike just to win a stupid race against moon carver. She also built like 100s of super duper high tech stuff all the time.
It was a bike not a motorcycle
@@MarieTheFloofyFox a bike with a motor, powered by adeptus energgy, so a motorized bycicle, pretty close.
@@MarieTheFloofyFoxthe denial
what do u call a bike that has a motor and works on something specific 😮
@@MarieTheFloofyFoxquit the game its not that hard
People easily forget that even Xianyun created a bike
and an electric one at that xD
Hard to remember when the character appears once in a blue moon
Same thoughts. Her outfit SCREAMS biker girl 😍😍😍
Listen, this ain’t the first time we’ve heard of motorcycles cause let’s all remember how Shenhe said Cloud retainer made a Motorcycle to race Moon Carver…so shit like this ain’t new
omfg ur right.
Her ancient dragon technology is probably xilonen who made the motorcycle 😭
Xilonen should meet Xianyun, I bet they would create a crazy stuff.
Xilonen make both Kachina's drill and Chasca's gun so there is no stopping her making motorcycle
@@WhyTFAmIEvenHere Fitting since Xianyun already has made a bike - her story quest , ahs that tidbit in there . I mean her ult is a freaking drone .
From leaks it looks like all Pyro archon had this as it is hereditary along with the claymore
which uses Phlogiston to make, which is the original power source of Teyvat by the ancient dragons... so it is ancient dragon technology.
Mavuika: "All System Nominal. Ride On!"
THOUGH MY WINGS BEEN BLOODSTAINED AND COULDD NEVER RIDDD
I've been looking for that comment
RIDING DUEL ACCELERATION!!!!!
DUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!
hope her bike is equip of all technology in our superbikes on this day..😂😂 also hoping for collab in any of big four japanese.😂😂
project bunny!!!!
You know what else you will not see coming, capitano with a cyber truck
Thank you! You’re the first person I’ve seen who’s acknowledged the ancient advanced dragon society and why it might lead to what we consider modern technology!
According to intellegent people playing this game having a modern thing in this game seems wrong but a futuristic thing like Sumeru's computers and Fontaine's mechs are fine.
@@XEROXAYUKIpeople are saying fontaine was representation of high tech BUT NAHIDAS SKILLS ARE WHOLE COMPUTER!!!
@@bujub7250that's not even mentioning khaenri'ah either
@@bujub7250 ya Nahida literally has a cursor and dragging it in her charged attack like how you do that on desktop :sob: and those same iNteLliGenT pEoPle complaining why Natlan has DJ stuff and motorcycle...... like literally look around you for once? look at Dendro as a whole? like hello? (saying that to those dumb people who complain, not you)
@@Artwolf007 LITERALLY LIKE
Xilonen still doesn't have a voice about Mavuika I think. I mean, not released. It is there but is blocked by "???".
My guess is that she made this bike for Mavuika and that is exactly why she said in her quest that Archon's demands are wild sometimes 😅
maybe some lore drop or something in 5.3
Yes, they blocked that after what happened with Neuvi because he outright tells you in his lines even before quest that he regains is authority of hydro sovereign.
I think that Mavuika's glasses, which were made by Xilonen, becomes her helmet👀
probably a voiceline unlocked after an aq. the archons always have lines like that about them
@@saisame7975 i dont know if they were meant to do that but i doubt it, that was a BIG spoiler
1. Dragons had the most advanced technology (Nation of Dragons)
2. War speeds up/encourages advancements (Nation of War)
3. They are separate from Teyvat kind of (meaning all Natlan talent is going toward the war/advancements)
4. Would you rather ride a penny farthing or a phlogiston powered motorcycle lmao
+ Fire is probably the element most identic to industrialization as most of it uses are industrial and technological related aside from electricity (combustion engine/propulsion, forging, cooking, heating, weaponries (firearms, bombs), etc)
but with lower significance in nature, unlike water, air, earth, ice.
But Natlan is based on tribal society, you cannot merge fire uses with tribal society unless you make it symbolic or fantasy, since most fire uses will be higher in industrial, technologically advanced society.
the second argument is absolutely ridiculous because the common folk was fighting with swords and spears against the abyss. you can’t show people with pre-industrial surviving conditions, and then claim they’re actually pretty technologically advanced
@@monshine444 Except you forgot that Natlan warriors are sometimes equipped with rocket hammers and other advanced weaponry. I think it is more of the fact that they focus on giving the best equipment to their elite warriors which makes sense heck the two tribes quests touch on the subject of unrestricted technology.
It feels like we advence in modern in every nation! Ayato boba tea, Wifi in Summeru , all the machnic in Fontaine, then Natlan and Technolgy ! I see no issue with it at all !
ya just rmbr that Phlogiston is the original system of Teyvat created by the dragons, the 7 elements and everything technological we see in the world is a branch of that. so it makes sense for there to be technological stuff in the world. and thats something complainers choose to forget so they can keep complaining out their ass cuz they dont know what tf theyre talking about.
You pretty much have to avoid all genshin related content in order to avoid leaks and even then it’s still not enough
its hella sad ngl, nothing really excites me anymore
Just need to stop using any social media at this point to avoid ☹️
I tried to avoid leak to keep my excitement high. But mf leak is everywhere and it kill my enthusiasm.
@@nattapakniranittikul fr I just hopped into to RUclips and the first thumbnail I see is of a god damn leak 😭
The funniest (most annoying) ones are where the uploader has the audacity to put SPOILER in the title of the video, but have the thumbnail directly show the leak/spoiler in question
Like, my bad for having peripheral vision I guess
Mavuika's motorcycle shows us just how diverse Teyvat's civilization is
Also illogical
@@jjaybuill3685 " teyvat has its own "laws" "
@@jjaybuill3685 not illogical, its ancient techs left by the ancient dragons or kaenriah, which are way more advance
@@jjaybuill3685"tell me you are a lore skipper with out teling me you are a lore skiper"
@@jjaybuill3685Never been to Fontaine? They have robots, a motorcycle is not that big of a deal when there are literal robots in Genshin
I don't care how many people say they don't like the motorcycle because it doesn't fit into genshin. I like it, it's awesome, and is probably one of the coolest things ever.
I think tbe bike is great too but at the same time I think its valid criticism that the bike looks out of place because it is they could have made it feel more fantasy vibe yk?
@@pearlord11after seeing the leaks, it's definitely more on the fantasy vibe when mavuika uses it
@@pearlord11 the thing is that mentality is wrong cuz its obvious loreskipper take. the ancient dragons were far more technological than what we see in game. please read the lore.
@@gabbygabgabs except it isn't a wrong mentality at all because the only person using Dragon Tech in Natlan is KINICH. There is NO use of ancient Dragon tech by any other Natlan character in day-to-day life AT ALL. it is not well implemented in the worldbuilding, hence it's out of place.
@@TheJH1015You do know that phlogiston is ancient dragon fuel for their tech, right? Something that can be found all over Natlan? Chasca's gun, Kachina's drill, Xilonen's skates and even the ancient names use phlogiston.
Yeah, Natlan's monopoly on ancient dragon tech and Phlogiston is what makes this technology possible
I think it could've been a bit less modern-looking, but still pretty cool. Definitely the type of thing that would've given a 1.0 player from four years ago a heart attack
Basically Natlan it's just like Wakanda... It looks like primitive/tribal, but actually it's modern and have high tech
@@ItsHavender_ south american wakanda.... the mythical city of trapalanda?
@@matheusbianquincera3104hes talking about wakanda from the marvel universe
@@Cassiopeia2.2 you dont say sherlock, its almost like i was making a reference to that
Also in Fountaine if you do one of the side quests of Liyue, one scientist explains that with the water levels and most of the research underwater, the research owners essentially don’t seem to care to have a structure or any good regulations making the inventions be rather disorganized. In Inazuma is easy to know given they are mostly into martial arts. Sumeru was so focus on ruhkadevata and keeping her legacy than do anything noteworthy.
honestly super excited about mavuika's trailer ost, i can think about rock song maybe kinda like dehya's (or cyberpunk type ost) or even better, fucking phonk like those tiktok edits songs lmaoo that'd actually kinda be on theme too since brazilian phonk is a thing that's super popular
:sob: Phonk would be crazy but im not opposed at all.
Imagine if her burst turned her motorbike into a dragon/phoenix
Nah that be dope if she goes full Yusei from 5D and like she becomes a dragon as shes riding her bike
Close enough, welcome back Koraidon/Miraidon.🐲🏍
Close enough... Spoilers ahead..
Her Burst is essentially the remake of the natlans quick swap between characters but additionally includes mavuika riding her bike in the air then jumping into the screen performing a himeko-esque slash
It's a Kamen Rider Ryuki situation, and I am all for it.
Why even say that pls don't ruin people's experiences EVEN IF YOU PUT a SPOILER
It will be more fun for them to see official info or SMTH but not that@@zennir48
Its all the phlogiston that works both as fuel and electricity inside natlan, but it only works for a few seconds outside natlan. Thats how all "machinery" is powered there like kachinas drill, mavuikas bike, kinich's bracelet etc
Natlan? More like wakanda
Phlogiston? More like vibranium
YES!
The only "good brain" example
This is the best analogy for this. Ever since I made this comparison too, natlanese tech made more sense
@@25kuzon nahhh, people saying mavuika's gameplay are out of the sense of the game are people out of this world HAHAHAHAHA
Except vibanium benefited the whole nation and was shown all over the city. Phlistogen technology is shown by like 5 characters in the whole nation and looks incoherent
i just wish they designed her bike more unique, like botw’s horse motorbike but make it dragon. since like this, she looks like she came from ZZZ or Dragon Raja instead of Genshin impact
the motorbike literally gets a dragon holgram/decal/aura in some situations
People often forget that Genshin is a fantasy game and can have any time period it wants so i dont get why ppl complaim about her having a bike.. like IT LOOKS AMAZING ASDGRHRHDGSBSGDGSJXNCN
I've said it before and I'll say it again, because i agree with this sentiment going around whenever this is discussed: it is almost never actually because of the fact the tech exists in game. It's because there is no context surrounding specific tech from Natlan, and it doesn't currently fit into its own aesthetic in game. It is "losing the plot" as they say because it doesn't feel like fantasy versions of modern things (Akasha system, etc.) it feels like modern things in a fantasy world.
One of the world quests in the new region did kind of make me buy more into Kinich's (mostly Ajaw's but still) design being so pixelated and computerized, but even then, he still had video games as his demo theme (I loved it but that doesn't make it fit well for others). Fontaine is still living in a steampunk world and then you have motorbikes, DJs, etc in Natlan... it feels off to people and I find that completely fair. It's not stylized. Not even getting into the excessively modern clothing that's very streetwear aesthetic which takes us even further out of the fantasy vibe.
That's not even getting into the widely held belief that their desire to use culture without more rep also ties into them avoiding using deeper culture and instead just using modernity as the gimmick itself.
Makes sense, but Natlan is the nation of dragons and in Genshin the dragons had advanced technology. So it does kinda make sense that Natlan would have some level of advanced technology and a motorcycle isn't really what you'd call advanced technology anyways, especially when Teyvat has robots
Phlogiston is the whole context of natlanese tech. Kinda like vibranium is to wakanda. How is phlogiston used in a dj booth? Fantasy
I think its cool that Natlan has all this crazy tech, since theyre kinda supposed to be the genshin wakanda. What i don't rlly dig is the designs of the tech. On other regions, even if they had super advanced stuff, it still fit the aesthetic. Like the akasha, that looked like a glowing leaf, scaramouche's mech fit the inazuman aesthetic, nahidas skills at first just looks like magic leafs, i didnt even notice it was a computer at first. Also all of fontaine fits the steampunk aesthetic, no matter how advanced a machine is.
But natlan just has a lot of clashing aesthetics, most of the region looks very traditional, but they have these straight up futuristic looking things in the middle. I wish they designed mavuikas bike and chascas gun a bit more like kachinas turbo twirly, because it alctually looked "medievalish" so to speak.
That's exactly how I feel too. Kachina's drill doesn't look out of place, because the design fits the aesthetics of her tribe. But Chasca's gun, Xilonen's rollers and Mavuika's bike have a futuristic design that makes them look out of place in a land as rural and traditional as Natlan
“Local Stone Age Aboriginals Have Shared You Their Nuclear Fusion Engine Technology"
assuming Natlan is stone age or that the "stone age" aka Age of Dragons had no technology is the first problem
@@BranOnlinethis!
It would've been okay for me if they made her another random 5 star but unfortunately she's the pyro archon that's supposed to represent their nation and element. The pyro archon could've ride a saurian or horse made of flames for battle...
Definitely pulling, that is indeed for sure.
I would've loved to see her use a hybrid of a dragon vehicle type of thing, like that one pokemon from the Scarlet-Violet games. So she could do all the things her motorcycle supposedly does, like fly, swim, etc. While it also makes sense in the context of Natlan
+ to fit the stereotypical Māori gangster design - the gang patches, the sunnies, the jacket and of course, now the motorbike.
i loved her outfit the first time i saw it and i had the same feeling that shes a biker girl, but i didnt think they would actually give her a bike lol its a good thing that i loved the design of her bike, its so fking cool! She even has SSJ hair and a cool personality... i have every reason to love her... its nice to see that i made a good choice by deciding to be a Main Pyro Archon since 1.0
Next thing you know she's shouting "Henshin!" While riding that in the air at full speed
@SaikaGV I see what you did there
I just cant comprehend how dragons would have ever had the need to make bikes. They're creatures who can literally fly? Just imagine dragons riding a bike and see how ridiculous it looks in your imagination.
They made phlogiston wings if you’ve done the world quest.
So it’s not completely out of the question
That was just a relation to how advanced Mavuika's bike is compared to anything in genshin. No one said that dragons literally rode bikes
use your brain, i seen you in other comments. you seriously think the dragons made and rode the bike? NO. the bike was made USING Phlogiston. much like how Xilonen made Kachina's drill and Chasca's gun.
i love big bikes AND FINALLY THERE'S A BIG BIKE IN GENSHIN I'LL PULL HERR
Also, in case people still think Motorcycle are too modern, Cloud Retainer created one in a race with Moon Carver :P
I think the issue most ppl have with the bike isnt necessarly that its a bike. But that it literlly is JUST a bike. At least Sumeru's Akasha had a flower theme, or Scara boss looked like a Japanese God
I think it’s a serve! The Genshin developers really said, “PHAWK it, let’s have some fun in Natlan” and I’m enjoying every moment of it. It kinda makes me excited to see what Ifa would look like and what he’s able to do.
With every new Natlan character I feel like someone just slapped me in the face, most of the Natlan characters should be added to HSR and NOT Genshin
When I started playing Genshin because it was FANTASY game not “modern and futuristic”
Yes I know Mondstat and Liyue also had some “technologies” but it wasn’t….THIS !
I still love Genshin and its still my favorite game because I have too many memories and attachment to this game and Natlan in general I love but....not the characters powers and skills....
People are saying Natlan shouldn't be advanced, but war is historically a factor that has brought several technological advances, so it actually makes a little bit of sense...
and it's relation to fire, like the Fire Nation from ATLA
so why don't we see this advance anywhere ? Why do people still live in tents and caves ? Why do they fight with traditional weapons ? Why do they travel with carts and lamas ? When we look at Natlan, their lifetsyle is probably the most "primitive" we've encountered so far. And then we have a handful of playable characters with modern clothes and hight-tech vehicles. It makes no sense.
If Natlan was really advanced, we should see signs of this tech everywhere, not just on a handful of playable characters
Technology in fantasy games can be great, when it's well integrated (as it was in the previous nations). But in Natlan it just feels weird and out of place.
mavuikas drip marketing looks like movie star Eugene from guardian tales
fight me
Even if dragons had the most advanced technology. A bike does not fit in the Genshin universe
So jetpacks do?
but the EVA suit gets a pass?
ah yes because Chernobyl in Inazuma wasn't immersion breaking? or what about Liyue's Ninnguang flying casfle completely fueled by hopes and dreams? and even Sumeru's wifi/airpods/internet or Fontaine completely unexplainable mechs managing to control gravity?
we've had giant mechs, literally electric bikes made by adepti, concrete buildings despite no apparent way Teyvat could get access to concrete but a completely Unique bike-looking elemental contstruct which uses a fual unique to Natlan is where you draw the line? what a hypocrite
@@Andre-0207 It's based mostly on the fact that Natlan does not appear to be a nation where a motorcycle would be seen, especially because the rest of the nation still uses wooden wagons to transport supplies to each other.
Chernobyl in Inazuma: Powered by the crystals found around the area.
Jade Chamber: uses a large amount of floating rocks
Akasha system: Smaller version of the Dendro Archon's ability to access Irminsul for information and is powered by the Gnosis.
Fontaine: Scientists experimenting with the natural elements of the world around them, which lead to the floating water cubes seen to the NNE of the Opera House.
All of these were explained and justified accordingly and placed in the nations with the most likely probability to own such technology. Natlan, however, does not look like it has the necessary equipment to build a bike.
@@Schneider_foreverLet's say blueprints from the ancient civilization before natlan and powered by phlogiston like everything else in Natlan
King deshret and his tech, khaenri'ah, xianyun with her motorbike just to win a race + her trinkets, sumeru, and fontaine. Yeah, not surprised.
Finally he's looking at the drip.
For those who don't know: The reason why Mavuika has a bike is because of her being based on a Maori god, at New Zealand theres alot of biker gangs which is why she has a bike. (Or they just needed a random nightsoul.)
I LOVE HOW THE NATLAN STUFF BECAUSE THE WORLD BUILDING STILL HOLDS!
Natlan literally has pretty much infinite energy from the phlogiston and the ancient dragons advanced tech sure, but it still works because of the cultural taboo of leaving natlan meaning they won't take that tech anywhere else so it still makes sense the rest of teyvat is behind!
One day,2 dragon friends just hanging out in the lava..
"Y'know what Jeff..I wanna build a bike."
the leak watchers are coming for you bran
Well if xianyun can have a motorcycle i don't know why mavuika can't.
I read a comment before saying Natlan is basically Teyvats Wakanda
The shock factor does get ya everytime, lol. For me tho, the impact lessens knowing it's for specific characters, and i mean that in a good way.
Like, even the elite warriors have some advanced tech weapons. Slings, jet hammers, etc. Maybe not to the level of the playables, but that makes sense, since those were SPECIFICALLY made for them by Xilonen so far for most of them
I've already had a certain enemy spoiled for me because of leaks. I was like "Well since I am already spoiled, might as well see her damage" and BOOM spoiled. I won't spoil the enemy I saw. I hate whenever people who give a spoiler warning... Its kinda like the Sam reveal and I know well whenever the Paimon secret gets revealed people will say it EVERYWHERE. I've started doing Archon quests the first hour of release just so I can experience it. Or I flat out don't look at YT aside from my subscriptions since the people I watch don't spoil.
I hate the fact that I can be scrolling any form of social media be it Facebook or RUclips or anything and leaks suddenly appear with no warning and I'm like great now all my excitement has vanished 😑 at least I didn't get spoiled for the Liyue character, so some excitement there, no copium to be found here 😂😂
we actually have another character who had a "bike"
Xianyun's Story quest dialogue:
Shenhe: Master once participated in a race against Moon Carver. After Moon Carver lost, he insisted that Master's ability to fly gave her a natural edge in such a contest.
Shenhe: In response, Master agreed to forgo flying in return for being able to use one of her devices in the race. Moon Carver accepted, only to find Master with a brand-new device on the day of the contest.
Paimon: So what kind of device was it?
Shenhe: It was a mechanical vehicle made out of iron. What was it called again... An "Electro-Powered Bicycle"?
Xianyun: You refer to the "Bi-Cyclical Thunderflash-Mobile." One spent forty-nine days conceptualizing and crafting it. It need only be infused with adeptal energy, and it can cover thousands of miles in one day.
Though we didn't really get to see it, imagine Xianyun and Mavuika racing 🤣
Well having literally the base state of the elemental energy (Phlogiston) is no surprise how ther can improve technology this far (Irl a nation with a thing that powerful will improve a lot of things using it specially if its a removable energy or they can make more of it)
What I don't understand is how do people point out a bike as "modern" and "out of place", meanwhile Xianyun made her own motorcycle to beat Moon Carver, Scaramouche and Raiden are mech puppets, Scara used a gundam mech, guns are a thing in Fontaine and Natlan, Kachina uses a drill, Xilonen has a dj stereo, sumeru had an actual online web, Kind Deshret had advance techbology from another world, etc...🤦🏽♂️
Yes yes stop yaping. The difrence in ur useless examples is all of thrse fits to their region and wasnt modern. Sumeru is fkin region of wisdom it was power from ruvekedava/nahida + only ppl in sumeru city can use akasha. Since we have already android kathernye from sneznyaha and whole war thing was started bcs of scarmouche and fatui i dont see a problem that inazuma have their way to produce something like this with help from fatui which is also high advanced. Natlan is land of dragons while people use pokemons and spear to fight xD all their houses is almost always a rock or wood. No one in natlan use modern things like natlan characters so yeah bike sucks and mauvika with rest of natlan characters dont fit in genshin. Only citlali and ororon looks good rest can go
@@Tomil4444stfu stop yapping, you can't even talk normally, shushh 🤫
The only reason why I think it's out of place is because we don't see this modern technology in the world of Natlan. Whereas Fontaine had machines everywhere and everything thing else you mentioned can be explained through different things, like the web search thing was only able to exist with the gnosis and combining fatui technology and sumerus knowledge created scaras mech, etc. but for Natlan all they really give us as an explanation is Xilonen made it. Yes I understand the argument that the dragons were the most advanced in technology but that hasn't been fully explained. In summary if Natlan wasn't as tribal in design in the open world and added more of this kind of modern technology it wouldn't look "out of place" ( in my opinion) I mean this with no hate or disrespect just wanted to share my thoughts on this matter
@@Tomil4444 Natlan also uses Phlogiston which is how many of their technologies are made, and the dragons were the race with the most advance technology. The lore of Natlan explained that the ley lines and phlogiston were the reason why so many of those "transportation" were created, some thanks to Xilonen. Who probably made the bike for Mavuika we'll find out. Now either read Natlan lore or you can continue your argument👍
Genshin fans using every excuse to justify her bike 😂
Ancient dragons with bikes 👍
Every Mavuika "thirsty fans": I'M SUPPOSE TO BE RHE BIKE!!! WHICH IS THE DRAGON SHE'S RIDING!!!!
Yeah, I know... We know...
I mean, that thing flies. I don't care how logical that is, that sh!t cool and it tickles my inner child hype. Wait...
It also climb and go in water
Looking at Bennet; he has probably the closest to a "modern" design among Mondstadters. He was hinting at Natlan being "modern" the whole time.
For some reason, this does not break the immersion for me. It kind of just fits perfectly into how Teyvat civilisation is portrayed.
So…
How did said dragons ride those motorcycles?
I'm pretty sure they aren't saying that dragons used motorcycles but that they have enought advanced tehcnology to create them if they wanted to.
Why would sentient creatures ever create things willy nilly that has no use for them. Necessity is the mother of invention yk?
@@mayujamir6027 what I meant to say is that maybe they had the technology, and the Natlan people used said technology to create such things not that they dragons did It.
I agree with you. I mean, at some pov it might a bit out of place, but the bike, xilonen being a dj, kinich with his device, regardless how random they are, its like their theme is the modern technology like irl. People point out that those are not like genshin universe and not fantasy enough, but what if the dragons advanced tech is almost the same as irl. may be it felt out of place just bc we relate to it, but in the perspective of teyvat or genshin itself, the variety of tech and magic fantasy can be anything. That's why I don't really mind too much with the motorcycle. Sure, its a bit weird at first time, but I think we will get more explanation or related lore at later time.
The leaks about mavuika having a bike was right before 5.0. I didn't personally believe it but who the fuck would though? What's next in snezhnaya? Space Ships?
So hyped for her ❤❤❤
I mean, we've been fighting with Apep since Sumeru and that one use literary DNA to attack us LOL
We don't actually fight Apep
@@Kristjan0209 we fights its immune system but the point still stands. He was throwing DNA-looking things at us
@@Andre-0207 Imagine though if we did fight Apep herself.
@@Kristjan0209 that would be cool but consider this: Apep is quite literally as big as like a third if not half of desert. Someone went into third person while its sprite was in the open world and tried to measure it.
@Andre-0207 Yeah, that's why I said imagine since it's never going to be added to a game that needs to run on mobile
I feel like when we reach Snezhnaya/Khaenriah, it's gonna be really modern, maybe more than this. If so, I'm glad they started it more apparent with Natlan so when we reach Snezhnaya/Khaenriah, it wouldn't be too shocking if we saw them in tank, jet, submarine and so on.
I’m thinking that we might see a similar level of modern as belobogs aesthetic. Then again I may be overlooking some things in the environment as I honestly have poor memory.
Snezhnaya is minimum at 1904 because of the type of gun pyro fatui uses, so yeah, it probably will be pretty modern. And considering what Libey (sorry, I don't know how to write his name) said, Snezhnaya is most probably in 1960-1990's. Krai is a USSR thing that basically means region on the edge of the country. And Libey was attacked by bandits several times so I would like to imagine that it's about dark times in USSR when bandits were controlling kinda everything. Or Hoyo can make a mix of time periods. It's a fantasy game, after all
Its different. From the beginning we already knew that Snezhnaya is the most advanced of all regions, because of Katherine and the robots we fought, they are all scattered around teyvat. On the other hand, Natlan didn’t introduce the concept of modernity, no one uses techs aside from the playable characters while the npcs live in tents/rock houses. Hoyoverse didnt do well in introducing that in this region and we all know it. The dragons are advanced but there is no explanation about them and how they crafted these things.
I feel like a part of this issue lies in the what we feel is modernity. In modern day, vehicles like motorcycles are fairly accessible to those who can afford it. Whereas in Genshin it’s very likely that the upper echelons of tech belongs solely to the military or the ruling class like our world. Natlan doesn’t quite have a ruling class other than Mavuika, as tribes are separated into what they see good at, with the Children of Echoes being their smithing and extraction of resources, the people of springs and their tourism specialties etc. The same could be applied to the adventurers guilds Katherine units, as the adventurers guild is very likely a large income to Snezhnaya and could be considered an asset of similar importance to the military. Most people in Teyvat have no access to these resources and so I hesitate to call it modern in that regard. If everyone in Natlan had motorcycles or more technology I would say that would be worse.
Mavuika's motorbike during skill/burst turns into something similar to a dragon (Xlabalaque or however you spell it made the bike after defeating the pyro sovereign !!)
you make a good point about the bike being dragon technology, goddamn
AND i see people said that Xianyun also make a bike on her own
goddamn Twitter really need to pay attention and now spewing nonsense just because it didn't fit with their imagination
Yeah I seen a post about Xianyun Bike and remember she actually made on lol
How tf a dragon ride a motorbike😂
@@baki577 can you picture Neuvillette riding a motorbike?
The bike reminds me of Herrscher of Reason from HI3
Mavuika and Traveler will obviously go the Abyss together with this motorcycle lol
As Bayonetta always said, TIME TO GO VROOM
Isn't motorcycle is just a cycle with an energy source? And in Natlan they have phlogiston, basically something from which all of Teyvat is made of (Teyvat consists of the elements and phlogiston is all of the elements combined), so energy source isn't a problem. Plus they have dragon tech. And I still think that it fits the world of Natlan, because even though they're all for traditions and culture, they do have some modern things in their civilization right now so the motorcycle doesn't look so out of place even for us, who usually thinks about motorcycles as something modern and technological
I agree, also just a slight correction (I’m sorry I can’t help myself) phlogiston could be more accurately compared raw oil or raw energy that was refined into the elements. Which makes even more sense why Natlan has a few characters with closer to ‘ridiculous’ or ‘exceptional’ elemental powers, they literally are in the land with the raw stuff of creation in it. They are born with it and are able to fuel more of their elemental powers. Even the weaker Natlan enemies seem to be able to channel elements without vision, they just refine phlogiston, which while weak is still access to some elemental power.
@MattGouverneur
I thought that phlogiston is just "pure light" that some time ago got through some kind of a "prism" and got separated into 7 elements because the realm of dragons is the "realm of light"
And also, didn't Xilonen used phlogiston crystal in battles and dried it out from phlogiston making it a transparent empty crystal with zero value in one of her trailers? That means that phlogiston is actually just huge batteries and using it for tech is logical
Also, in the desert there are many people who can control elements just from birth. I don't know if it has any connection to being close to Natlan or if it's only because of Deshret, but it's still something interesting. Especially considering the fact that pure elemental energy is poisonous to humans because they aren't from this world so them being able to wield elements freely is really interesting
@@Tormillian it’s all so interesting, and you can look at phlogiston as ‘pure light’ going through a ‘prism’, it ultimately is a analogy that are to a similar effect, putting light through a prism technically refines and purifies the light into its separate colours.
I will admit I do need to look into my Sumeru desert lore again as it’s been ages since I’ve engaged with it but it is interesting to think about. I wonder if it is potentially because of the proximity of the Celestial nail and Apep in the desert regions, given that Apep seems to exert an influence over evolution and the nail as a part of Celestia is probably highly radioactive with elemental energy it could be the case the desert people are evolving to the elements quicker. Which is interesting, as aside from vision users like in the chasm quest, we haven’t seen the effects of the Celestial nail on regular people, just the climate.
Actually, people already speculate that she might ride a bike just by looking at her outfit way back when she's been introduced in natlan teaser trailer. (Including me) i mean, look at her with the leather kinda suit like the biker gang would wear😂 and people even said that she's might look like the wuwa boss that riding the bike. *Remember this all happen way back then when she's first got introduced/teased and not because of recent leak* it's crazy that some people speculate that and it came true😂 Even tho many people didn't happy about this marketing drip. Since they expect her to ride a dragon or phoenix or some sort. I guess no matter what hoyo do, people nevr gonna be happy about it😅
Me: Hmm, Inferno Rider?? 😅
I managed to avoid any leaks, so this did surprise me a bit
First a car, next a special edition Mavuika themed Motorcycle x Genshin collab
Well, there is some instance in ancient history that have technology or knowledge that we current don't have, know or understand.
The mask like part is pointy, those that mean she will charge at enemy impale them and slamming them on the nearby wall before beating them to death with her claymore
I’d genuinely would mostly forgive the modern tech if natlan as a whole fit the same aesthetic ,the guns Fontaine characters use fit the technological state their nation is , scaras mech is built in the place where there’s already older giant mechs lying around having been studied for who knows how long , so why does only the cat DJs friends get all this tech and everyone else are a bunch of tribals
At least he understands the lore, you don’t have to like the look you just need to know that lore wise it makes sense
I still remember bran promise to C6 pyro archon 🗿
The jiggle ph… I mean she looks very strong❤
Did people just choose to forget about the fact the the Natlan ancient dragons had more advanced technology than modern day Fontaine?
Remember also that witches come from Natlan (The Little Witch and the Undying Flame), and they can both look beyond the fake sky and into Earth (Alice teaching Barbara about idols, Alice bringing Mcdonalds and KFC for example) and they live for a very very long time. Dragon power source with "live with the natural elements of the original world" tech plus witches influencing Natlanese culture by living for a long time and bringing a bunch of stuff from Earth over the ages = Natlan being more modern yet also very superstitious while also co existing with saurians (Mualani's voicelines about luck, Masters of the Night Wind thinking Citlali is a Witch, Barbeloth and Alice LITERALLY hexenzircle coven members dripmarketing Mavuika).
It looks like the bike Himeko used in Hi3
IMAGINE! That bike will turn into armor and Mavuike will be like a Ramatra from Overwatch just punching evryone and there sill be huge flame waves from her fists then she punch someone
I feel like the motorcycle needed to have more of a dragon like appearance and fans probobly would have liked it more
Can't wait to explore Natlan with Mavuika and Free Bird solo playing on full blast
Ok, but what kinda fucking dragon RODE A BIKE? It would have been at least from Ochkan's time.
The dragon tech does make sense but I can't lie I did pull a pomni with "what time period is this supposed to be again?"
Later we can get car’s in genshin 😂😂
I put this in a reply but i think i should make more people see this bc its so frustrating seeing the argument of ‘i mean its old dragon tech and khaenriah is techy too’
People are upset about it because of the aesthetic not the actual items. Sumeru and fontaine were fine because fontaine is steampunk and has been hyper up as ‘the techy nation’ since 1.0, and steampunk already has an established role visually in traditional fantasy genres, and sumeru was very elf magic-y. Nahida magic LOOKs like a magical projection and dendro is already kind of the light/techy element so its pre established as well.
Khaenriah and king deshret stuff falls under the same catagory as the dwemer from elder scrolls aka Long Lost Civilisation that has Tech We Dont Understand, and generally follows the aesthetic of that.
We had absolutely non of this for natlan. No one came out of natlan like ‘woah theres this sick ass tech sometimes’ all we knew was ‘nation of war’ and ‘woah dragons’ from neuvillette lol.
The justification for natlan stuff is just “xilonen made it lol” and “phlogiston lol” and they made pretty much 0 effort to actuallt design it in a way that fits the world of genshin aesthetically. Mavuikas motorbike looks like something from cyberpunk 2077 lol, and xilonens dj set looks so modern in comparison to the npc dj set at the children of echos. Kinich has a ben 10 watch lmfao (but thats at least partially explained by Ajaw himself since he is literally the spirit of a dragon from that time or something.)
Its like watching an elf from LOTR pull out an iphone 15 and being like “its magic lol” without making an effort to make it LOOK magical, its just an iphone 15 lol. Zelda is a good example of tech implemented in a non anachronistic way, specifically with a motorbike lol.
Its fine to like the break in genre, and its fine to break genre in general, but it was done so sloppy and was so uncreative on genshins part that i think the people who find it anachronistic are completely within their rights to dislike it.
Her bike is actually a dragon when she dashes while riding it
Yeah and tha make me wonder if the bike is the actually the (real) pyro sovereign
Gosh the leaks are so annoying, i don't even pay attention to them. Why does it feel like leaks have been getting worse and worse recently.
i wouldn't say that, but with mavuika it's definitely the case, especially cause she's the archon and arguably the most hyped char for the 5.x patches and so, the leaks were everywhere and additionally, the late drip marketing only added fuel to the fire
It reminds me of the bike owned by the lu bu gundam dubbed the red hare
She’s riding Enjou
She has the cloud strife vibe with the motorcycle 😂
whether the artist do it intentionally or subconsciously , the bike design is definitely influenced by the long running Japanese Anti-Hero live action TV series " Kamen Rider " specifically the Kuuga / Agito time , and not to mention the anime Akira as well
Everytime a new Natlan character is released the less i want to come back to Genshin, it might be great for people currently playing, but for me, it feels way too off to the Genshin i know
That is true, the dragons were super advanced. So along with Fontaine having flipping robots Mavuika having a bike is not odd
Just a reminder they are powered by phlogiston (just like how xianyuns were adeptal energy)