Thank you so much for having me on! I truly hope that this book helps everyone understand what New Thought is and just how much it has infiltrated society and the church. You interview incredibly well. Definitely one of my favorite interviews. I hope and pray that your ministry grows and grows!
Melissa💥 Melissa💥 Melissa💥 Kia Ora (to you life) from Nu Tīreni (New Zealand) This podcast is truly next level⚡ So much gold refined in the fire and your matter of fact delivery is superb🥇 A resource that I can share with my Christian friends who unknowingly participate in new thought heresy. Love your mahi (work) and God Bliss You🌬️ 👑מלך ישוע המשיח 👑King Jesus Christ
I have a great example of positive thinking that isn't New Thought. I had a physical therapy appt in a town 30 miles away. As I was leaving the VA facility, my car was pulling HARD to the right. I got out to check it and my right passenger tire was completely flat. I thought positively and thanked God that it didn't blow out 1/2 way between the VA and my house. The roads are very icy and there is nothing but mountains between here and there. The wrecker got to my location and the tire place was about 2 blocks from the VA. Now, if I had thought (pun intended) that somehow I had caused my tire to go flat because of my negative attitude about having to drive an hour on icy roads, that would be L.O.A. type conditioning. The only reason I thought about this example is because I had seen one of your podcasts and was trying to explain; to a friend of mine; the difference between generic positive thinking, and the Power of Positive Thinking. They were confused about the difference and I was trying to explain the difference, but my explanation wasn't working. Now, I have a better example to give them.
Thank you, Melissa! Your work has blessed so many, as evidenced by the comments below! We're so grateful for you and the time you gave our Maybe God community. We'd love to have you on again in the future!
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Eric, I am a first timer on your channel. You are a great interviewer. You asked good questions and did not interrupt your guest. When you spoke, your comments were well placed.
This was a fantastic episode. Melissa is brilliant and yet she knows how to explain these seemingly abstract belief systems in a way that opens your eyes and makes you think; wow, I would never have been able to articulate it this way. She makes everything so clear and understandable. Thank you so much for having her on❤.
Preach it, sister God has raised you up for such an hour like this to reach your generation and the older generation. God bless you keep up the good work.
This is sooooo good!! I see sprinkles of New Thought in so many Christians conversations. I knew something was off with these Christians but couldn’t put my finger on it
Carrie, you could buy Melissa's book and ask God, how you can get your Mother to read it. You can also show her chapters and verses in the bible that say; "I am the way and the truth and the life, no-one come to the Father but by me." John 14:6
I'm getting this book. I have heard this New Thought verbiage throught my entire Christian journey of over 50 years. I have recognized much of it as man's attempt to be their own God, the original deception suggested by the serpent to Eve and Adam. Thank you for this content. It is so important, because it is rampant in Evangelical churches. Bethel in Redding comes quickly to mind. I've heard all of this in church after church throughout the decades. The subtlety requires discernment, and a close study of the scriptures. God bless you for putting out this message and book.
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That's why it makes sense why Christ founded One True Church, so that one True church could defend against all these deceptions and protect the truth that was revealed to the apostles, until his secondcoming. If you go back in history, you would see that that church is the Catholic church. Yes , the Catholic church has a lot of corruption, but there's been corruption since the apostles, but the fullness of the Christian truth has been protected by the Catholic church. Good video! God bless!
@@fernandorios7108- there is more than corruption wrong with Catholicism as well as other denominations. Tom Wadsworth points out the slippery slope that led us there, and it led to FACILITATING corruption, unnecessarily. His 7-part series details the highlights of 50 years study focused on worship in the early church.
I have experienced New Thought and Progressive Christianity in churches that I ended up leaving...the blind leading the blind and the church leadership did not want to see it!! We need to speak out about this even if we get rejected by people...I always share God's Truth in love, in steadfastness to Him at the cost of being disliked by the hearer(s). God has not called us to be popular but to be His Light in this dark world. I ordered Melissa's book to share with others...thank you for this interview!!❤
Your right. It's a low moving snake deceiving as it travels. What joy that you saw the light. I have her book on order as well. A little more salt on the bookshelf. God's best blessings.
As a christian back in the 80's ther we was an explosion of New Thought with the introduction of Marianne Christianson and many others that followed suit. So I wrote a paper after researching all the authors at that time. I tried to pass the information to family and friends and was branded as a trouble maker and a negative person even thou all I had done was simply put down their quotes and teachings. So I am glad to see you have also produced the knowledge of these deceptions. Keep up the good work and God bless your work of exposing the deceptions!
The difference is, living in spirit and truth, is decreasing of self and increasing in Him. Apart from Him we can do nothing. I find new agers are claiming " ego death" but self elevation is like reframed pride.
No lie: I'm 56 years old and would tell anyone I was Christian. The very first church I ever attended was Unity and they had a guest speaker (Mike Dooley) who taught a class in Law of Attraction. From there, I studied Christian Science, Neville Goddard et al. However I NEVER read the Bible myself cover to cover. Talk about a wake up call! I ordered your book Melissa and can't wait to learn more
One of the tricky things is that there ARE measurable frequencies on thoughts as well as objects, substances, etc. But I think af Moses, disobediently wielding power. The other trap I see is that Christians are so (rightfully) concerned with going into new age stuff, that they embrace the unbiblical idea of cessation, that God no longer expects Chridt-followers to obey Him - they are to preach the gospel, but NOT to have faith that God wants them to be His conduit to heal others, which causes them to deny the power of the Holy Spirit. There are believers who are strictly biblical - healing in Jesus' name - who can SCRIPTURALLY SHOW how our thoughts affect our faith, thus Paul tells us we have to discipline our minds and bodies, presenting ourselves a living sacrifice. Our brains and thoughts DO matter because it affects what we trust God with, and Jesus made it clear that outcomes depend on our faith. The deceptions of the new age tap into the power of the prince of the air. But too many believers are failing to obey Jesus fully over fears about new age. But Melissa is spot on that there are people who say they are Christian while being miles off of what the word says. I was horrified to hear one such person say she no longer believes we need forgiveness of sin. Devout on the outside, until you scratch the surface. She now insists on "inclusive" churches. Before I figured out what that meant, I went to church with her...the sermon was so bad, I immediately saw that the speaker was making up feel-good lessons that had no bearing on the point of the passage.
I followed New Thought ideas for a few years without knowing what it was. My greatest takeaway is that it makes you FEEL so good. I FELT so close to God. I FELT so much love for others. I FELT so much love for myself. It is 100% feeling based. It is a very dangerous ideology and we absolutely need to speak up about it.
What? Lol! Feeling love for yourself and others is the ultimate goal. It's what JESUS teaches us to do! It's what God the Father taught before Jesus did. It's part of the 10 commandments! Now you believe that's dangerous? You are turning away from Gods teachings. Wow.. look how cunning the Adversary is. He's got you thinking these things are wrong. Go back to the New Testament and read Jesus's and the Apostkes teachings again. Then live them.
I was in Walmart this week, and their radio announced, "Here is your affirmation of the day." I knew that was whacky, and they would never say, "Here is your Bible verse for the day." So glad to learn about New Thought. Also, greeting cards have New Thought ideas, "Sending you peace (or joy or life or sunshine . . .)" I buy cards from a company online, and I've been rejecting these cards, but I think I will throw them out. Look into George Fox and John Woolman about the Society of Friends (Quakers). Quakers believe everyone has the Light based on poor exegesis of John 1:9. Maybe it was KJV but they say "The True Light who enlightens everyone," meaning within. GREAT WORK YOU TWO!!!
Bare with me, but it seems like new thought thinkers are trying to harness the power of God for their personal gains, rather than allowing God to work through them by His will for His purpose. Am I close? New thoughters seem transactional, which seems to bring you back to the garden and original sin. Original sin seems steeped in a transaction for power that was not ordained by God.
My brother has been captivated by the new thought movement.. I'm super glad I found Melissa, she has been super helpful in having conversations with him! Has anyone else heard of the Urantia book? He is very much into studying it and i cant seem to find to many people who have even heard of it.
I've heard of it. It's sort of interesting. It's no harm in reading it. People have to find their own way what makes you think the Bible's is true and Urantia is not? Unless God told you himself that the Bible is the word of God. I wouldn't take anybody else's word for it it!
@@jdl2180Wait, what do you mean that unless God told you himself that the Bible is the word of God? Why isn’t it? Has God not spoken through His many prophets. And what did He say? By the way, we are all like sheep, just like Jesus said, we are all prone to wander, our heart can deceive us. Back in the garden, Eve told Satan that God had told them to not eat of the Tree which would lead to their death. Satan planted a seed of doubt into their minds about God’s motives; He didn’t want them to be like Him. We can’t ever be like God because we are His creation, and so we’re dependent for our very life on Him. Check it out for yourself, it’s in the first chapters of the first book of the Bible, Genesis. You can almost hear the lies drip from Satan’s mouth as he tells Eve, “Has God indeed said, ‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?” (Genesis 3:1). We must all be discerning to not let the subtle lies of Satan trick us into believing him instead of believing the truth of God.
I've not watched your podcast before, great voice! Thanks for having Melissa on. I've followed her since 2022, she is responsible for getting me out of the WOF movement. Blessings to you both!
If a person claims to be a Christian, then you can respond with the following statement and question. That’s great that you’re a Christian. What was your understanding of the gospel when you first became a Christian? Listen to the response and trust the Holy Spirit to lead you with the proper response to their response. An alternate question that works for pretty much anybody in case you’re not sure if they’re Christian or not is the following. Do you mind if I ask you a spiritual question? In my experience, most people will say sure go ahead. Ask this: do you believe in God why or why not? I’ve used the approach and people tell me a lot. Then I can respond appropriately. People tend to be kind of fuzzy on the gospel. To keep it clear and simple. I suggest to passages in John to look at if you can show it to them great if not, just be aware of it for yourself and share the gospel from this background. Read John 16: 8-11 and John3:16-18 . John 16:8-9 really focuses on the fact that belief in Jesus is the key and it focuses on that sin. People often want to talk about sins in the plural, but I like this text because it focuses on the sin singular of unbelief as the key.
How about following what Jesus taught while interacting with these other Christians. It's the second great commandment. "Love your neighbor as yourself". It's what God requires of you. He doesn't ask you to be the "thought police" of your neighbor. Live by example, as Jesus did. Then when they see the good fruits of your life, they will desire it for themselves..
@@celinemartinez7831 I would ask something like this. Do you mind if I ask you a question? As a Christian, what do you think it takes to get to heaven? From this question, you can determine if they are relying on Grace alone by faith alone in Christ alone. Since they’re into new thought, but claim to be Christians, they probably won’t have the right answer. So in a positive way with a smile, ask them if you can show them in the Bible how they can be 100% sure of going to heaven. The two scriptures that I use from the book of John because that is really about getting people to become believer in Jesus are the following: John 16:8-11 and John three:16-18 . The first one deals with the Holy Spirit’s role in working on the unbeliever. I like it because in every translation that I’ve looked at sin is singular in verse eight and immediately Jesus describes sin as unbelief. I like this because it keeps me from having to get into debates about particular sins whether it be LGBTQ or something else. Ultimately I can use John 3:18 as the crescendo of not being condemned because of faith alone in Christ alone for his grace. For a person who does that, then they will be born again, and the Holy Spirit can work on him from the inside out. For me, I let people know that God does not encourage sin, but none of us will go to heaven because of our actions. Everyone in heaven will be there because of their belief in Christ and regardless of actions unbelief in Christ will send a person to hell. That’s my approach .
I the 70s, I got drawn into a Spiritualist Church in London called the White Eagle Lodge, which was very New Thought and superficially it appeared to be Christian. It was linked to Theosophy too, yet there were a lot of people who came through the doors thinking it was a 'normal' Church. However, initiates experienced other things, such as seances to discover your spirit guide, for example, as well as astrology and Yoga. When I saw Jesus during a seance, it was like mentioning a dirty word, the figure I described was too clearly the biblical Jesus rather than some supernatural being expressing their inner Christ. Apparently JC operates on a lower spiritual plane than the other elevated spiritual beings. Thankfully Jesus continued to reveal himself to me, until I finally recognised my utter need for him. For Jesus Christ, God's only Son and my Saviour and Lord for the last 45 years.
I noticed how churches departed from the true message over the past 20 years, i started conducting my prayer and worship life from home. This prosperity nonsense and other delusions are dangerous lies.
We are electrical beings, to the cellular level, we operate on frequencies. There may be truth to the realm of spiritual frequencies. That said, if we were meant to understand those frequencies, they would be explained to us on the Bible.
A South African here. Certainly in our church world here at the southern tip of Africa the nomenclature you discuss here aren't prevalent. Much of it, though, did start to ring bells with me. Melissa, I've come across the very same worldview when studying CW Leadbeater and the "Liberal Catholic Church" for my research on the Kundalini spirit (15 years ago) and its prevalence in the worldwide institutional church. CW Leadbeater was the understudy of Annie Besant and, to some degree, Madame Blavatsky. Leadbeater acted as co-founder of the Theosophical Society. To them, the "Christ principle" was basically what is known as Kundalini and its interaction with (for lack of a better term!) "the force" (Star Wars term). "The force", in my Christian understanding, is the created energy which cannot be measured with scientific instruments. The millennia-old pagan way of tapping into this vast "vat" of created, potential energy is to activate the Kundalini serpent in the spine - a practice which you would be very familiar with from your New Age days. So what am I saying? I'm saying that what you are dealing with in New Thought is most probably not a mere mindset or worldview. It's basically just one more version of the pagan philosophy (there are MANY!) of tapping into "the force" by means of Kundalini. What makes it so dangerous, as you've well stated, is that it's clothed in Christian jargon.
ANOTHER SOUTH AFRICAN HERE.WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS FUNDAMENTALLY WORSE.WE HAVE HIRELINGS AS PASTORS,WE HAVE BLASPHEMERS AND AROGENT PROUD PASTORS WHO HAVE NO FEAR OF GOD, ( OTHERWISE THEY WOULDNT BE PREACHING THE GARBAGE THEY DO) THERE IS CERTAINLY NO DISCERNMENT IN THE CHURCHES , OH THEY ALL CLAIM TO HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT IN THEIR MEETINGS.THE ONLY SPITIT IN OPERATION IS THE SPIRIT OF ANTI CHRIST!!! I'LL NAME A FEW....ANDRE ROEBER, BOSHOFF, NAR,ALL PROSPERITY DOCTRINE, MUST I GO ANY FURTHER.....BUT DON'T WORRY, GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED AND WILL REVEAL PUBLICALLY AND BRING TO OPEN SHAME TO WHAT HERESY IS BEING PASSES OFF AS THE WORD OF GOD. MARK MY WORDS. HE IS STARTING TO SEPERATE THE WHEAT FROM THE CHAFF....MAY WE BE FOUND IN HIM. SHALOM.
I first heard of the Kundalini spirit via Prof. Walter Veith a great South African Bible teacher who exposed these satanic lies & deception in his video series 'Total Onslaught'
@@which1isitnope we arent racist here.our government try to push the racist narative to try and keep us devided but that trick is getting tired now ❤😊
I love listening to Melissa! I have a friend trapped in New Thought beliefs and she has a great way of explaining how that belief system is not compatible with biblical faith
Always believed in God and Jesus. My friend prayed for me since I didn't understand the Holy Spirit. I also had 4 years of sadness, angry, jealously over 2 people who broke my heart. My other friend said she didn't want to talk about my ex. She wasn't being mean but rather pretty much not talk about him so much or rather I think need to focus on my own life. So many months it continued to stay on my mind and then I thought it's time to forgive. I at that point, asked God to forgive me, asked everyone to forgive me even though I didn't ask them. Then I was told by God to open my Bible. It was then I realized I understood the Holy Spirit. ❤ I was reborn.
Wow! This was an eye-opener! I found myself immersed in New Age without the intention to be, some time ago. Now I realized that I first started taking my eyes of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ through New Thought. The New Thought led into New Age. Mind-blowing! New Thought was the gateway to New Age for me. The enemy can be a subtle, patient deceiver, but rest assured he is the Father of Lies. Thank you, Melissa! Your work is needed and appreciated!🙏🏻✝️🙏🏻
I’m so thankful for Melissa. I think similar to her. I had lots of questions and saw my first Apologetic’s booth. I was so excited to start learning. The New Thought movement is so tricky. I’m so grateful to know about that term and be able to know this truth. Unfortunately I was indoctrinated in so many places into this movement. But no more! I’m free! Thank you Jesus for this message. 🙏
I'm sticking with God - Jesus - Holy Spirit and the Holy Bible, the world is rapidly heading towards destruction, and there is only eternal life through our saviour : Jesus Christ. God bless everyone and peace be with you, Emmanuel.
I am declarations! Wow is immediately thought about Christians who decree and declare when they’re praying, thinking they’re being faith -full. Not i am but so presumptuous.
Melissa I am glad to hear you speak of Swedenborg. Years ago I visited a Swedenborg church in Brisbane, Australia. At the time I was a relatively new Christian and thought that this arm of the 'Christian' Church was legitimate, though I found it strange/esoteric in its teachings. The congregation comprised older affluent people. I wasn't drawn into it but can see how people of a particularly intellectual bent could find it mysteriously attractive. An older friend became very immersed and delivered lectures on Swedenborg's teachings. His life did not end well. Thank you for raising awareness.
People always pick on Joel Osteen however he does say, “ give us a year of your life and you will see a positive change for the better”. There are so many testimonies of people who transformed their lives ( from prison, drugs, alcohol, gangs…) who have given their life to Jesus and are changed people. He says that people know what they have done wrong. Through the Word of God the people get transformed. People pick on him but he has brought more people to Jesus than many out there.
I was in a Christian cult 1989-1997. The books Melissa mentioned the pastor read & followed. Many televangelists & charismatic preachers preach the same thing. The pastor of the church I was in is now imprisoned for life for child SA & so many others spiritually abused. I believe my inoculation now is thorough knowledge of the Bible and a close relationship with Jesus.
It is not possible to feel the Holy Spirit?. We should not put out the Baby with the Bathtub... We really should looking for the Lord in HIS word. The enemy tries to destroy the real believe too... It's all about Jesus, and Jesus did mirracles too, and yes we should believe in mirracles too and obey the LORD if he speaks to us to belive in this. This is not a simple diagnosis for every christian - everybody has to proof what he/she is beliving - not only follow a new warning movement. This would be wrong on the same way as new tought.
Oh wow Thankyou for this interview, there is so much deception in the world of the church. I very nearly got entangled in word of faith movement until l realised the teaching was very off. I even had to burn books!! Looking forward to your book Mellisa.
How about go back to: REFORMATION: This told the everyday Christian they could use the Holy Spirit to understand the Bible for themselves. SPIRITUAL FIGHT: “For our fight is not against flesh and blood but against..spiritual wickedness in high places.” So..please explain how these two theological ideas are NOT “new thought”? She criticizes the “New Age” spirituality but she talks about the devil. Both Christianity and New Age have a promote “spiritual” part..and she is here to use the logical fallacy of “special pleading” by trying to say Christianity spirituality is different and correct. All the questions she asks at 22:00 about New Age can be equally asked about Christianity..so maybe the actually problem IS Christianity?
Why is everyone so afraid of being judged by someone else? If it's not the judgment of God, who cares? We all are being judged secretly by others constantly, and you secretly judge others in your own mind all the time. It's time to get over it.
She mentions quantum physics. Yes clearly a lot of of this new age stuff of manifesting which you can want to get just by thinking about it is incorrect. However, if you look into ancient Jewish thought you will know that numbers and letters are ultimately connected. Modern day science has confirmed God within advanced mathematics. In this case, we can produce the things that we want and know by understanding reality, it is spiritual manner that is connected to scientific revelations. We have had in the last couple hundred years.
I agree with some points as I'm not into new age/new thought, BUT, if you do not believe that Jesus said that we will do what He did, and even greater, what do you believe? Your coming against bible verses that are still valid for today! I believe that every word in the bible is valid and true for today. If you don't, what's the point of calling yourself a Christian? If the cross is still valid, so is what Jesus accomplished at the whipping post. Yes, these things are for us today. I've seen the healing of other people come from my hand being placed on them, without speaking a word (Mark 16:17-18), and even commanding something to go in Jesus name (Luke 9:1 & 10:19). What we today call prayer cloths still work! (Acts 19:11-12). Healing and deliverance take place because of the authority that Jesus gave us, and by the power of the Holy Spirit residing inside of us, which flows out to other people. If your a cessationist and say that healing and deliverance aren't for us to walk in today, your too late! I've done it and have seen others do it! Just remember, if we don't believe the testimony that we have in Jesus, we're calling God a liar (1John 5:10). I had shared this video on FB before I watched the entire thing, but then I removed it because even though you may be opening peoples eyes to some things, your lying about the validity of God's word for today, and I think that that would be confusing for people who are not grounded in God's word, especially when your coming from a dead christianity cessationist point of view...
Besides church teachers who have taken new thought as truth; it bleeds into our government as well as psychology and therapy. Lots of trained therapists have such works on their work bookshelves and will give to their patients.
Where I work I come into a lot of people who constantly call themselves "chosen" and talk about God along side their ancestors talking to them, and them doing shadow work, their 3rd eye, and spiritual/ spirit realms, frequency, vibrations etc... the whole time they talk, I just pray for them. I walk a fine line when talking about Jesus and trying to talk to them because, again, I am at work... but it's a weird feeling when they enter, and their is just something off about them. I know that I am a follower of Christ, and who my God is but these people make me feel so under attacked. Seeing this video just confirms what I already felt but needed confirmation on. Thank you
What you need to do is not just say what scriptures they use to make their claims. You have to correctly explain what those scriptures are actually saying. You can’t help people’s confusion if you don’t give the correct interpretation of the verses they stand on.
Having been in a charismatic church for a few years I found a "word of faith" attitude which focused on what God can do for us rather than what we can do for God. Name it and claim it seems to make God into an ATM machine and believers into milk-fed infants.
I haven't been to a church that teaches like that (but have heard televangelists like that - and I always tuned them out). But I've also spent a lot of time in Scripture and missionary biographies, and saw that God provides, and that Brother Andrew, for example, list supporters when someone gave him a new Volkswagon to transport Bibles into iron curtain countries. I never forgot that. And I have missionaries in my family with their own stories. I'm slower to judge wealth in other believers, now, though I still get knee-jerk reactions about it sometimes.
So this is where my confusion is. "New thought" I was told explains how faith and the spiritual realm works essentially like a science because it explains order for how God operates and created people to operate. I was told the reason for this self-help/new age way of thinking was a way to essentially hijack what God created for servicing yourself without being subject to divine authority. "New thought" really originates from Christianity and the language was formulated by new agers that caused Christians to disregard the science of "new thought". But now since Christians operate by the principles of faith without having the same "language", ex-newagers are saying that Christians are operating in new age way of thinking but it was principles of God's design to begin with, when Christians are being accused of using new age tactics it's really new agers that have used the fundamental spiritual principles to serve their own desires in the first place. The problem with using "new thought" in christianity is when Christians use spiritual principles to serve themselves vs serving God and eachother. The spiritual principles are not evil, the self-serving intent in how you practice faith is. You're blaming the "gun" for being satanic, it's a tool that's used to serve an agenda, either yours or God's kingdom purposes. Those "angels" were revealing truth but in a perverted way to stroke the self-serving desires of that author, to live independently without God.
Love it Love it LOOOOVE IT!!!.. I'm definitely going to get the book📚(Happy lies) ...I have my apologetics 'study bible', Alisa childers book(another gospel) Greg koukls book(tactics).. and my arsenal ⚔will be SET!!!✊🏿✝️ Great interview Melissa! God bless✝️👑😊
There are only two ways of perceiving or thinking about reality: One is that all reality is basically a Oneness Unity SAMENESS, often called Quantum, Love, Energy, Vibrations, "Source", etc. The correct view is Discontinuity of reality between the Absolute Living Personal Infinite Creator Ontological Trinity. Read Peter Jones' books One or Two and The Other World View, and Rousas John Rushdoony's By What Standard, The Word of Flux, The One and The Many, by Francis Schaeffer his 3 book Trilogy, Nancy Pearcey Finding Truth, Steven Bancarz' book Second Coming of The New Age... If all reality is a basic Oneness SAMENES, then it is non personal with no abstract concepts or meaning or purpose, a deterministic closed machine... If the Personal Creator is Reality, then differentiations are possible and human created persons have cognizance and rationality and ability to make limited decisions between recognized alternatives, and we are accountable to the Ultimate Reality of the Personal Creator. The only alternative to the Personal Creator Who determines, owns, controls all reality is the Autonomous Independent SELF trying to control all reality by from for SELF by exempting SELF from the machine, a contradiction of Oness SAMENESS.
Yes! Some people in my old church would call God, source. It wasn't a particularly new thought church but more seeker sensitive. It's like a brainwashed word that people use. It is such a terrible way to talk about the Lord. I would never use that word. Someone needs to show me in the Bible where people called God, source. 🙄
What are your thoughts on a church program called “Rooted, the 7 rhythms of decipleship”? I see some red flags, but can’t find a direct issue I can use to point out to my family member
Mystic Religion! My sister was bothered by Demons all her life ! She passed from walking pneumonia in 2011 at 43 years old and so smart and Beautiful!!
Catholics Believe in Praying to Saints. Jesus Christ is the ONLY ONE YOU SHOULD BE PRAYING TO. The Trinity… No Saint, Died on the Cross for Our Salvation…. It’s idolatry when you Pray to anything other than Christ, Jesus & The Holy Spirit….
A " c hristian " is a person who has genuinely put their faith in J esus and received the holy spirit. C atholicism is a man made religious institution that many times says follow the ways of our system. Jesus is a person ( God in flesh form) who says " Follow me." Why even label yourself a c. Atholic? If truly saved, should just be able to say, I'm a Christ follower.
I would love to hear her take on deliverance ministry from a biblical take. I just came out of this movement. The people pushing this movement not only want money, they want power.
Thank you so much for having me on! I truly hope that this book helps everyone understand what New Thought is and just how much it has infiltrated society and the church.
You interview incredibly well. Definitely one of my favorite interviews. I hope and pray that your ministry grows and grows!
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Kia Ora (to you life) from Nu Tīreni (New Zealand)
This podcast is truly next level⚡
So much gold refined in the fire and your matter of fact delivery is superb🥇
A resource that I can share with my Christian friends who unknowingly participate in new thought heresy.
Love your mahi (work) and God Bliss You🌬️
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I have a great example of positive thinking that isn't New Thought. I had a physical therapy appt in a town 30 miles away. As I was leaving the VA facility, my car was pulling HARD to the right. I got out to check it and my right passenger tire was completely flat. I thought positively and thanked God that it didn't blow out 1/2 way between the VA and my house. The roads are very icy and there is nothing but mountains between here and there. The wrecker got to my location and the tire place was about 2 blocks from the VA. Now, if I had thought (pun intended) that somehow I had caused my tire to go flat because of my negative attitude about having to drive an hour on icy roads, that would be L.O.A. type conditioning. The only reason I thought about this example is because I had seen one of your podcasts and was trying to explain; to a friend of mine; the difference between generic positive thinking, and the Power of Positive Thinking. They were confused about the difference and I was trying to explain the difference, but my explanation wasn't working. Now, I have a better example to give them.
Thank you for this. I feel like there is no true bible church left 😢
Thank you, Melissa! Your work has blessed so many, as evidenced by the comments below! We're so grateful for you and the time you gave our Maybe God community. We'd love to have you on again in the future!
Yikes! Melissa, you're great! But you make my head hurt!!!
Reading the Bible everyday is absolutely the perfect way to learn the truth and not unsee it! Really good video!
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Eric, I am a first timer on your channel. You are a great interviewer. You asked good questions and did not interrupt your guest. When you spoke, your comments were well placed.
This was a fantastic episode. Melissa is brilliant and yet she knows how to explain these seemingly abstract belief systems in a way that opens your eyes and makes you think; wow, I would never have been able to articulate it this way. She makes everything so clear and understandable. Thank you so much for having her on❤.
So glad you enjoyed it!
Yeah, Melissa is a natural teacher. I enjoy her a lot!
Preach it, sister God has raised you up for such an hour like this to reach your generation and the older generation. God bless you keep up the good work.
This is sooooo good!! I see sprinkles of New Thought in so many Christians conversations. I knew something was off with these Christians but couldn’t put my finger on it
New Thought is satanism but differently packaged. Just like new age, hinduism, islam etc. Jesus is the only God and the only way.
My Mom is new thought and calls it Christian. She calls my views narrow minded when I say Jesus is the only way!
Narrow is the path. God is also narrow-minded in her view, I guess. I hope she comes to see the light!
Carrie, you could buy Melissa's book and ask God, how you can get your Mother to read it.
You can also show her chapters and verses in the bible that say;
"I am the way and the truth and the life, no-one come to the Father but by me." John 14:6
We need to return to the blood. The way of Christ is mercy. There is no other way.
@@M.Kingsley-zy7dn Nobody gets to the Father but _Through Me._ Keyword: Him. Not necessessarily _Christianity._
No thru the CHRIST conciousness, the return of christ isn't literally, it's the return of the christ within you.
I'm getting this book. I have heard this New Thought verbiage throught my entire Christian journey of over 50 years. I have recognized much of it as man's attempt to be their own God, the original deception suggested by the serpent to Eve and Adam. Thank you for this content. It is so important, because it is rampant in Evangelical churches. Bethel in Redding comes quickly to mind. I've heard all of this in church after church throughout the decades. The subtlety requires discernment, and a close study of the scriptures. God bless you for putting out this message and book.
Absolutely right!
“Immerse yourself in your Bible”
Thank you.
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So many people wanna say who Jesus was and what he did... but how many actually wanna do what Jesus said?
I have watched Melissa Dougherty for years now as well. This has been one of the best interviews for “Happy Lies”. Really looking forward to the book.
So glad you enjoyed it!
That's why it makes sense why Christ founded One True Church, so that one True church could defend against all these deceptions and protect the truth that was revealed to the apostles, until his secondcoming. If you go back in history, you would see that that church is the Catholic church. Yes , the Catholic church has a lot of corruption, but there's been corruption since the apostles, but the fullness of the Christian truth has been protected by the Catholic church.
Good video! God bless!
@@fernandorios7108- there is more than corruption wrong with Catholicism as well as other denominations. Tom Wadsworth points out the slippery slope that led us there, and it led to FACILITATING corruption, unnecessarily. His 7-part series details the highlights of 50 years study focused on worship in the early church.
I have experienced New Thought and Progressive Christianity in churches that I ended up leaving...the blind leading the blind and the church leadership did not want to see it!! We need to speak out about this even if we get rejected by people...I always share God's Truth in love, in steadfastness to Him at the cost of being disliked by the hearer(s). God has not called us to be popular but to be His Light in this dark world. I ordered Melissa's book to share with others...thank you for this interview!!❤
Your right. It's a low moving snake deceiving as it travels. What joy that you saw the light. I have her book on order as well. A little more salt on the bookshelf. God's best blessings.
Great job Melissa, as usual. Melissa's awesome at making complicated concepts understandable 😊
It seems to me what is so attractive about New Thought is that you don't have to bend the knee to Christ.
what exactly does that mean?
@jdl2180 it's not necessarily centered around Christ.
@@Coco_mla is that a good thing or a bad thing?
@jdl2180 it's bad thing.
LOL….Jesus taught this….no, love is the key vs. the false doctrine of original sin is needed to propagate the false doctrine of “hell”
New Thought sounds like what Satan promised Eve: that she would be like God.
As a christian back in the 80's ther we was an explosion of New Thought with the introduction of Marianne Christianson and many others that followed suit. So I wrote a paper after researching all the authors at that time. I tried to pass the information to family and friends and was branded as a trouble maker and a negative person even thou all I had done was simply put down their quotes and teachings. So I am glad to see you have also produced the knowledge of these deceptions. Keep up the good work and God bless your work of exposing the deceptions!
Did you ever publish the paper? What are the other names of the individuals involved?
The difference is, living in spirit and truth, is decreasing of self and increasing in Him.
Apart from Him we can do nothing.
I find new agers are claiming " ego death" but self elevation is like reframed pride.
No lie: I'm 56 years old and would tell anyone I was Christian. The very first church I ever attended was Unity and they had a guest speaker (Mike Dooley) who taught a class in Law of Attraction. From there, I studied Christian Science, Neville Goddard et al. However I NEVER read the Bible myself cover to cover. Talk about a wake up call! I ordered your book Melissa and can't wait to learn more
Great!! Learn what it means when Jesus said you must be born again.
One of the tricky things is that there ARE measurable frequencies on thoughts as well as objects, substances, etc. But I think af Moses, disobediently wielding power.
The other trap I see is that Christians are so (rightfully) concerned with going into new age stuff, that they embrace the unbiblical idea of cessation, that God no longer expects Chridt-followers to obey Him - they are to preach the gospel, but NOT to have faith that God wants them to be His conduit to heal others, which causes them to deny the power of the Holy Spirit.
There are believers who are strictly biblical - healing in Jesus' name - who can SCRIPTURALLY SHOW how our thoughts affect our faith, thus Paul tells us we have to discipline our minds and bodies, presenting ourselves a living sacrifice. Our brains and thoughts DO matter because it affects what we trust God with, and Jesus made it clear that outcomes depend on our faith.
The deceptions of the new age tap into the power of the prince of the air. But too many believers are failing to obey Jesus fully over fears about new age.
But Melissa is spot on that there are people who say they are Christian while being miles off of what the word says. I was horrified to hear one such person say she no longer believes we need forgiveness of sin. Devout on the outside, until you scratch the surface. She now insists on "inclusive" churches. Before I figured out what that meant, I went to church with her...the sermon was so bad, I immediately saw that the speaker was making up feel-good lessons that had no bearing on the point of the passage.
I followed New Thought ideas for a few years without knowing what it was. My greatest takeaway is that it makes you FEEL so good. I FELT so close to God. I FELT so much love for others. I FELT so much love for myself. It is 100% feeling based. It is a very dangerous ideology and we absolutely need to speak up about it.
how do you feel now? separated from God?
What? Lol! Feeling love for yourself and others is the ultimate goal. It's what JESUS teaches us to do! It's what God the Father taught before Jesus did. It's part of the 10 commandments! Now you believe that's dangerous?
You are turning away from Gods teachings. Wow.. look how cunning the Adversary is. He's got you thinking these things are wrong.
Go back to the New Testament and read Jesus's and the Apostkes teachings again. Then live them.
The scary part is people don't know which churches are ok and which are new thought
Read the Bible and listen to people who do what it says. It’s not easy at all.
"Prone to wander." This is such s powerful conversation. I knew something was off, i couldnt put my finger on it in the busyness of my life
All praise to our Mighty Lord, I thank the Lord for this happening in your life.
Melissa has a phenomenal memory for names and detail.
I was in Walmart this week, and their radio announced, "Here is your affirmation of the day." I knew that was whacky, and they would never say, "Here is your Bible verse for the day." So glad to learn about New Thought. Also, greeting cards have New Thought ideas, "Sending you peace (or joy or life or sunshine . . .)" I buy cards from a company online, and I've been rejecting these cards, but I think I will throw them out. Look into George Fox and John Woolman about the Society of Friends (Quakers). Quakers believe everyone has the Light based on poor exegesis of John 1:9. Maybe it was KJV but they say "The True Light who enlightens everyone," meaning within. GREAT WORK YOU TWO!!!
I'm not in Walmart often, but I also once heard an in-store announcement about their support of their LGBTQIA employees.
Bare with me, but it seems like new thought thinkers are trying to harness the power of God for their personal gains, rather than allowing God to work through them by His will for His purpose. Am I close? New thoughters seem transactional, which seems to bring you back to the garden and original sin. Original sin seems steeped in a transaction for power that was not ordained by God.
My brother has been captivated by the new thought movement.. I'm super glad I found Melissa, she has been super helpful in having conversations with him! Has anyone else heard of the Urantia book? He is very much into studying it and i cant seem to find to many people who have even heard of it.
I've heard of it. It's sort of interesting. It's no harm in reading it. People have to find their own way what makes you think the Bible's is true and Urantia is not? Unless God told you himself that the Bible is the word of God. I wouldn't take anybody else's word for it it!
@@jdl2180Wait, what do you mean that unless God told you himself that the Bible is the word of God? Why isn’t it? Has God not spoken through His many prophets. And what did He say? By the way, we are all like sheep, just like Jesus said, we are all prone to wander, our heart can deceive us. Back in the garden, Eve told Satan that God had told them to not eat of the Tree which would lead to their death. Satan planted a seed of doubt into their minds about God’s motives; He didn’t want them to be like Him. We can’t ever be like God because we are His creation, and so we’re dependent for our very life on Him. Check it out for yourself, it’s in the first chapters of the first book of the Bible, Genesis. You can almost hear the lies drip from Satan’s mouth as he tells Eve, “Has God indeed said, ‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?” (Genesis 3:1). We must all be discerning to not let the subtle lies of Satan trick us into believing him instead of believing the truth of God.
We live in the time of the Laodicean Church.
Wow, Guideposts! We had that magazine through all my childhood! Wow
Me too!
Nothing wrong with thinking positive. It's another way of exercising faith. Look up Pauls definition of faith in the scrptures. Hebrews 11:1
@@tamaraelsberry6630 Iagree. Melissa is pointing out abuses of positive thinking when we are not submitting it to Christ and His Word.
I've not watched your podcast before, great voice! Thanks for having Melissa on. I've followed her since 2022, she is responsible for getting me out of the WOF movement. Blessings to you both!
Wow, that's powerful! Glad you enjoyed it!
The next thing or question is how do we live with Christians we interact with who are clearly into New Thought.
Great question! Any ideas?
If a person claims to be a Christian, then you can respond with the following statement and question. That’s great that you’re a Christian. What was your understanding of the gospel when you first became a Christian? Listen to the response and trust the Holy Spirit to lead you with the proper response to their response.
An alternate question that works for pretty much anybody in case you’re not sure if they’re Christian or not is the following. Do you mind if I ask you a spiritual question? In my experience, most people will say sure go ahead. Ask this: do you believe in God why or why not? I’ve used the approach and people tell me a lot. Then I can respond appropriately.
People tend to be kind of fuzzy on the gospel. To keep it clear and simple. I suggest to passages in John to look at if you can show it to them great if not, just be aware of it for yourself and share the gospel from this background.
Read John 16: 8-11 and John3:16-18 . John 16:8-9 really focuses on the fact that belief in Jesus is the key and it focuses on that sin. People often want to talk about sins in the plural, but I like this text because it focuses on the sin singular of unbelief as the key.
How about following what Jesus taught while interacting with these other Christians. It's the second great commandment.
"Love your neighbor as yourself". It's what God requires of you. He doesn't ask you to be the "thought police" of your neighbor. Live by example, as Jesus did. Then when they see the good fruits of your life, they will desire it for themselves..
@@celinemartinez7831 I would ask something like this. Do you mind if I ask you a question? As a Christian, what do you think it takes to get to heaven?
From this question, you can determine if they are relying on Grace alone by faith alone in Christ alone. Since they’re into new thought, but claim to be Christians, they probably won’t have the right answer. So in a positive way with a smile, ask them if you can show them in the Bible how they can be 100% sure of going to heaven.
The two scriptures that I use from the book of John because that is really about getting people to become believer in Jesus are the following: John 16:8-11 and John three:16-18 . The first one deals with the Holy Spirit’s role in working on the unbeliever. I like it because in every translation that I’ve looked at sin is singular in verse eight and immediately Jesus describes sin as unbelief. I like this because it keeps me from having to get into debates about particular sins whether it be LGBTQ or something else. Ultimately I can use John 3:18 as the crescendo of not being condemned because of faith alone in Christ alone for his grace.
For a person who does that, then they will be born again, and the Holy Spirit can work on him from the inside out. For me, I let people know that God does not encourage sin, but none of us will go to heaven because of our actions. Everyone in heaven will be there because of their belief in Christ and regardless of actions unbelief in Christ will send a person to hell.
That’s my approach .
I the 70s, I got drawn into a Spiritualist Church in London called the White Eagle Lodge, which was very New Thought and superficially it appeared to be Christian. It was linked to Theosophy too, yet there were a lot of people who came through the doors thinking it was a 'normal' Church. However, initiates experienced other things, such as seances to discover your spirit guide, for example, as well as astrology and Yoga. When I saw Jesus during a seance, it was like mentioning a dirty word, the figure I described was too clearly the biblical Jesus rather than some supernatural being expressing their inner Christ. Apparently JC operates on a lower spiritual plane than the other elevated spiritual beings. Thankfully Jesus continued to reveal himself to me, until I finally recognised my utter need for him. For Jesus Christ, God's only Son and my Saviour and Lord for the last 45 years.
The best way not to be fooled by any religion is to know the Bible thoroughly by regular study and meditation.
" meditating "on the word of God.
Can't wait to read Melissa's upcoming book!
I noticed how churches departed from the true message over the past 20 years, i started conducting my prayer and worship life from home. This prosperity nonsense and other delusions are dangerous lies.
Sometimes the only difference that we can discern is pride.
Great conversation and interesting info!
My son tried to tell me about vibrations and frequencies. He wanted my husband and I to listen to "angel" music (tones). No!
Everything is frequency. Regardless of your religion you can't change that fact.
We are electrical beings, to the cellular level, we operate on frequencies.
There may be truth to the realm of spiritual frequencies. That said, if we were meant to understand those frequencies, they would be explained to us on the Bible.
A South African here.
Certainly in our church world here at the southern tip of Africa the nomenclature you discuss here aren't prevalent.
Much of it, though, did start to ring bells with me.
Melissa, I've come across the very same worldview when studying CW Leadbeater and the "Liberal Catholic Church" for my research on the Kundalini spirit (15 years ago) and its prevalence in the worldwide institutional church. CW Leadbeater was the understudy of Annie Besant and, to some degree, Madame Blavatsky. Leadbeater acted as co-founder of the Theosophical Society.
To them, the "Christ principle" was basically what is known as Kundalini and its interaction with (for lack of a better term!) "the force" (Star Wars term). "The force", in my Christian understanding, is the created energy which cannot be measured with scientific instruments.
The millennia-old pagan way of tapping into this vast "vat" of created, potential energy is to activate the Kundalini serpent in the spine - a practice which you would be very familiar with from your New Age days.
So what am I saying? I'm saying that what you are dealing with in New Thought is most probably not a mere mindset or worldview. It's basically just one more version of the pagan philosophy (there are MANY!) of tapping into "the force" by means of Kundalini. What makes it so dangerous, as you've well stated, is that it's clothed in Christian jargon.
ANOTHER SOUTH AFRICAN HERE.WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS FUNDAMENTALLY WORSE.WE HAVE HIRELINGS AS PASTORS,WE HAVE BLASPHEMERS AND AROGENT PROUD PASTORS WHO HAVE NO FEAR OF GOD, ( OTHERWISE THEY WOULDNT BE PREACHING THE GARBAGE THEY DO) THERE IS CERTAINLY NO DISCERNMENT IN THE CHURCHES , OH THEY ALL CLAIM TO HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT IN THEIR MEETINGS.THE ONLY SPITIT IN OPERATION IS THE SPIRIT OF ANTI CHRIST!!! I'LL NAME A FEW....ANDRE ROEBER, BOSHOFF, NAR,ALL PROSPERITY DOCTRINE, MUST I GO ANY FURTHER.....BUT DON'T WORRY, GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED AND WILL REVEAL PUBLICALLY AND BRING TO OPEN SHAME TO WHAT HERESY IS BEING PASSES OFF AS THE WORD OF GOD. MARK MY WORDS. HE IS STARTING TO SEPERATE THE WHEAT FROM THE CHAFF....MAY WE BE FOUND IN HIM. SHALOM.
Is it an all white church?
Well said 👏👏
The same here in Victoria, South Eastern Australia 🦘
I first heard of the Kundalini spirit via Prof. Walter Veith a great South African Bible teacher who exposed these satanic lies & deception in his video series 'Total Onslaught'
@@which1isitnope we arent racist here.our government try to push the racist narative to try and keep us devided but that trick is getting tired now ❤😊
Maybe melissa needs to be on Joe Rogan...just putting it out there.
@JREPodcast @JoeRogan yeah, by all means reach 19+ million people in presenting love and the truth. I love Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior
@@jordanhenderer7606 I support this very much!
I agree
So informative! Thank you both!
I love listening to Melissa! I have a friend trapped in New Thought beliefs and she has a great way of explaining how that belief system is not compatible with biblical faith
Thank you so much for this informative interview and for sharing with us. God bless your work🙏🙏🙏
Always believed in God and Jesus. My friend prayed for me since I didn't understand the Holy Spirit. I also had 4 years of sadness, angry, jealously over 2 people who broke my heart. My other friend said she didn't want to talk about my ex. She wasn't being mean but rather pretty much not talk about him so much or rather I think need to focus on my own life. So many months it continued to stay on my mind and then I thought it's time to forgive. I at that point, asked God to forgive me, asked everyone to forgive me even though I didn't ask them. Then I was told by God to open my Bible. It was then I realized I understood the Holy Spirit. ❤ I was reborn.
She is not the
only one talk about and
Exposing this subject.
My Missionary Spencer has made documentaries his 3rd Adam series on this very subject.
Wow! This was an eye-opener! I found myself immersed in New Age without the intention to be, some time ago.
Now I realized that I first started taking my eyes of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ through New Thought. The New Thought led into New Age. Mind-blowing!
New Thought was the gateway to New Age for me. The enemy can be a subtle, patient deceiver, but rest assured he is the Father of Lies.
Thank you, Melissa! Your work is needed and appreciated!🙏🏻✝️🙏🏻
I’m so thankful for Melissa. I think similar to her. I had lots of questions and saw my first Apologetic’s booth. I was so excited to start learning. The New Thought movement is so tricky. I’m so grateful to know about that term and be able to know this truth.
Unfortunately I was indoctrinated in so many places into this movement. But no more! I’m free! Thank you Jesus for this message. 🙏
Please please have a discussion about John Mark Comer’s book (/movement) “Practicing The Way”!
If only the creator of the universe could have given us a book to make it clear to all: who he is and what he wants.
I'm sticking with God - Jesus - Holy Spirit and the Holy Bible, the world is rapidly heading towards destruction, and there is only eternal life through our saviour : Jesus Christ. God bless everyone and peace be with you, Emmanuel.
This was good. I bought my book, can't wait to dive into it😂
Only book you need is the bible and spiritual discernment .
I am declarations! Wow is immediately thought about Christians who decree and declare when they’re praying, thinking they’re being faith -full. Not i am but so presumptuous.
Eric and Melissa, thanks for speaking these truths. I have been looking for others who also believe churches are deceived about biblical truth.
Great job Eric! Women communicate on a higher plane then us guys.😊 You brought the conversation back to where us guys could get it.
Melissa I am glad to hear you speak of Swedenborg. Years ago I visited a Swedenborg church in Brisbane, Australia. At the time I was a relatively new Christian and thought that this arm of the 'Christian' Church was legitimate, though I found it strange/esoteric in its teachings. The congregation comprised older affluent people. I wasn't drawn into it but can see how people of a particularly intellectual bent could find it mysteriously attractive. An older friend became very immersed and delivered lectures on Swedenborg's teachings. His life did not end well. Thank you for raising awareness.
People always pick on Joel Osteen however he does say, “ give us a year of your life and you will see a positive change for the better”. There are so many testimonies of people who transformed their lives ( from prison, drugs, alcohol, gangs…) who have given their life to Jesus and are changed people.
He says that people know what they have done wrong. Through the Word of God the people get transformed. People pick on him but he has brought more people to Jesus than many out there.
I was just about to type Richard Rohr's name when Melissa finally mentioned it!
I was in a Christian cult 1989-1997. The books Melissa mentioned the pastor read & followed. Many televangelists & charismatic preachers preach the same thing. The pastor of the church I was in is now imprisoned for life for child SA & so many others spiritually abused. I believe my inoculation now is thorough knowledge of the Bible and a close relationship with Jesus.
I look forward to watching more of this channel. Thanks for all do for Jesus. 🙏
Did bro just say New Thotty/Thoughty? I love the video but this made me lol 👍🏾 1:00:08
Thank you. Looking forward to your book.
Vibrations and frequencies. I hear neo-charismatics or hyper-charismatics use the phrase, “shift in the atmosphere.”
It is not possible to feel the Holy Spirit?. We should not put out the Baby with the Bathtub... We really should looking for the Lord in HIS word. The enemy tries to destroy the real believe too... It's all about Jesus, and Jesus did mirracles too, and yes we should believe in mirracles too and obey the LORD if he speaks to us to belive in this. This is not a simple diagnosis for every christian - everybody has to proof what he/she is beliving - not only follow a new warning movement. This would be wrong on the same way as new tought.
Oh wow Thankyou for this interview, there is so much deception in the world of the church. I very nearly got entangled in word of faith movement until l realised the teaching was very off. I even had to burn books!! Looking forward to your book Mellisa.
How about go back to:
REFORMATION: This told the everyday Christian they could use the Holy Spirit to understand the Bible for themselves.
SPIRITUAL FIGHT: “For our fight is not against flesh and blood but against..spiritual wickedness in high places.”
So..please explain how these two theological ideas are NOT “new thought”?
She criticizes the “New Age” spirituality but she talks about the devil.
Both Christianity and New Age have a promote “spiritual” part..and she is here to use the logical fallacy of “special pleading” by trying to say Christianity spirituality is different and correct.
All the questions she asks at 22:00 about New Age can be equally asked about Christianity..so maybe the actually problem IS Christianity?
Why is everyone so afraid of being judged by someone else? If it's not the judgment of God, who cares? We all are being judged secretly by others constantly, and you secretly judge others in your own mind all the time. It's time to get over it.
We should seek judgement from wise people, so that we can discover our failings and repent.
She mentions quantum physics. Yes clearly a lot of of this new age stuff of manifesting which you can want to get just by thinking about it is incorrect. However, if you look into ancient Jewish thought you will know that numbers and letters are ultimately connected. Modern day science has confirmed God within advanced mathematics. In this case, we can produce the things that we want and know by understanding reality, it is spiritual manner that is connected to scientific revelations. We have had in the last couple hundred years.
Yep, it definitely is a problem that too many people believe they are in possession of THE TRUTH.
Scary to think about! New thought totally defies John 15
Is Guideposts still under the influence of Peale’s New Thought?
Humans have replaced God with all themselves
Wonderful!
Yea, i just told a preacher who posted "God is our GPS" why that's not biblical and then she blocked me!!
I agree with some points as I'm not into new age/new thought, BUT, if you do not believe that Jesus said that we will do what He did, and even greater, what do you believe? Your coming against bible verses that are still valid for today! I believe that every word in the bible is valid and true for today. If you don't, what's the point of calling yourself a Christian? If the cross is still valid, so is what Jesus accomplished at the whipping post. Yes, these things are for us today. I've seen the healing of other people come from my hand being placed on them, without speaking a word (Mark 16:17-18), and even commanding something to go in Jesus name (Luke 9:1 & 10:19). What we today call prayer cloths still work! (Acts 19:11-12). Healing and deliverance take place because of the authority that Jesus gave us, and by the power of the Holy Spirit residing inside of us, which flows out to other people. If your a cessationist and say that healing and deliverance aren't for us to walk in today, your too late! I've done it and have seen others do it! Just remember, if we don't believe the testimony that we have in Jesus, we're calling God a liar (1John 5:10). I had shared this video on FB before I watched the entire thing, but then I removed it because even though you may be opening peoples eyes to some things, your lying about the validity of God's word for today, and I think that that would be confusing for people who are not grounded in God's word, especially when your coming from a dead christianity cessationist point of view...
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Besides church teachers who have taken new thought as truth; it bleeds into our government as well as psychology and therapy. Lots of trained therapists have such works on their work bookshelves and will give to their patients.
Where I work I come into a lot of people who constantly call themselves "chosen" and talk about God along side their ancestors talking to them, and them doing shadow work, their 3rd eye, and spiritual/ spirit realms, frequency, vibrations etc... the whole time they talk, I just pray for them. I walk a fine line when talking about Jesus and trying to talk to them because, again, I am at work... but it's a weird feeling when they enter, and their is just something off about them.
I know that I am a follower of Christ, and who my God is but these people make me feel so under attacked.
Seeing this video just confirms what I already felt but needed confirmation on.
Thank you
What you need to do is not just say what scriptures they use to make their claims. You have to correctly explain what those scriptures are actually saying. You can’t help people’s confusion if you don’t give the correct interpretation of the verses they stand on.
Correct❤
John 1
In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God.
Of course it seems confusing, because she's saying things that go against the scripture.
Thank you! Great info Melissa. 👍
Refreshing .. thanks guy's
The great Dragon, the devil and Satan, was cast out and down to earth which deceives the whole world.
Thank you very much. I can relate totally…… love and blessings,!
Having been in a charismatic church for a few years I found a "word of faith" attitude which focused on what God can do for us rather than what we can do for God. Name it and claim it seems to make God into an ATM machine and believers into milk-fed infants.
I haven't been to a church that teaches like that (but have heard televangelists like that - and I always tuned them out). But I've also spent a lot of time in Scripture and missionary biographies, and saw that God provides, and that Brother Andrew, for example, list supporters when someone gave him a new Volkswagon to transport Bibles into iron curtain countries.
I never forgot that. And I have missionaries in my family with their own stories.
I'm slower to judge wealth in other believers, now, though I still get knee-jerk reactions about it sometimes.
So this is where my confusion is. "New thought" I was told explains how faith and the spiritual realm works essentially like a science because it explains order for how God operates and created people to operate. I was told the reason for this self-help/new age way of thinking was a way to essentially hijack what God created for servicing yourself without being subject to divine authority. "New thought" really originates from Christianity and the language was formulated by new agers that caused Christians to disregard the science of "new thought". But now since Christians operate by the principles of faith without having the same "language", ex-newagers are saying that Christians are operating in new age way of thinking but it was principles of God's design to begin with, when Christians are being accused of using new age tactics it's really new agers that have used the fundamental spiritual principles to serve their own desires in the first place. The problem with using "new thought" in christianity is when Christians use spiritual principles to serve themselves vs serving God and eachother. The spiritual principles are not evil, the self-serving intent in how you practice faith is. You're blaming the "gun" for being satanic, it's a tool that's used to serve an agenda, either yours or God's kingdom purposes. Those "angels" were revealing truth but in a perverted way to stroke the self-serving desires of that author, to live independently without God.
Love it Love it LOOOOVE IT!!!..
I'm definitely going to get the book📚(Happy lies) ...I have my apologetics 'study bible', Alisa childers book(another gospel)
Greg koukls book(tactics).. and my arsenal ⚔will be SET!!!✊🏿✝️
Great interview Melissa! God bless✝️👑😊
Me too. I have all those. Great authors for Jesus
A wonderful video ..thank you..
Awesome interview. Love Melissa!
I see a lot of people call God “ creator source”
There are only two ways of perceiving or thinking about reality: One is that all reality is basically a Oneness Unity SAMENESS, often called Quantum, Love, Energy, Vibrations, "Source", etc. The correct view is Discontinuity of reality between the Absolute Living Personal Infinite Creator Ontological Trinity. Read Peter Jones' books One or Two and The Other World View, and Rousas John Rushdoony's By What Standard, The Word of Flux, The One and The Many, by Francis Schaeffer his 3 book Trilogy, Nancy Pearcey Finding Truth, Steven Bancarz' book Second Coming of The New Age... If all reality is a basic Oneness SAMENES, then it is non personal with no abstract concepts or meaning or purpose, a deterministic closed machine... If the Personal Creator is Reality, then differentiations are possible and human created persons have cognizance and rationality and ability to make limited decisions between recognized alternatives, and we are accountable to the Ultimate Reality of the Personal Creator. The only alternative to the Personal Creator Who determines, owns, controls all reality is the Autonomous Independent SELF trying to control all reality by from for SELF by exempting SELF from the machine, a contradiction of Oness SAMENESS.
Yes! Some people in my old church would call God, source. It wasn't a particularly new thought church but more seeker sensitive. It's like a brainwashed word that people use. It is such a terrible way to talk about the Lord. I would never use that word. Someone needs to show me in the Bible where people called God, source. 🙄
@@tkw4908because they just look at God as a concept...an energy blob or consciousness, instead of the real, living, personal being that He is.
What are your thoughts on a church program called “Rooted, the 7 rhythms of decipleship”?
I see some red flags, but can’t find a direct issue I can use to point out to my family member
Mystic Religion! My sister was bothered by Demons all her life ! She passed from walking pneumonia in 2011 at 43 years old and so smart and Beautiful!!
I truly hope the Lord Himself came to free her.
People are so wrapped up in themselves and following people versus The Holy Spirit should be our teacher and guide
Psalm 9:16 "The Lord is known by his acts of justice; the wicked are ensnared by the work of their hands".
Excellent talk
What's the difference between Christianity and Catholicism?
One major difference is that there is no triune god in Christianity.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779depends on which denomination,
There is No difference between TRUE catholicism and Christianity. They are the same.
Catholics Believe in Praying to Saints.
Jesus Christ is the ONLY ONE YOU SHOULD BE PRAYING TO. The Trinity…
No Saint, Died on the Cross for Our Salvation….
It’s idolatry when you Pray to anything other than Christ, Jesus & The Holy Spirit….
A " c hristian " is a person who has genuinely put their faith in J esus and received the holy spirit.
C atholicism is a man made religious institution that many times says follow the ways of our system. Jesus is a person ( God in flesh form) who says " Follow me."
Why even label yourself a c. Atholic? If truly saved, should just be able to say, I'm a Christ follower.
I look forward to the book too! I’m waiting…twenty more days.
Joyce Meyer says I am that I am!
Our true authentic self is pretty sinful and unrefined (not saved).
I have discovered Melissa through an other podcast, .. beautiful soul ! and Eric is a very good interviewer.
Where can I buy her book? Is it available in the Philippines?
I would love to hear her take on deliverance ministry from a biblical take. I just came out of this movement. The people pushing this movement not only want money, they want power.