don't think it's right to say locrian - IS used minor tetrachords for much of the melodic material, very common in russian folk music. these then interact with octatonic/chromatic subsets. worth digging out Taruskin and van den Toorn, they did a good job analysing it
@@minimaster0328 the minor tetrachord is the first four notes of the minor scale. if you put two of them a tritone apart you get the octatonic scale (ie. the tone-semitone scale). you can add extra chromatic notes or "enclosures", or double at the fifth, and other weird stuff. richard taruskin spent twenty years writing a 2000-page book about what it all means
Le Sacre gets a lot better towards the end though. I don't get why people feel like this particular transition is so remarkable. It is but the tip of the iceberg of Stravinsky's genius.
at first i thought it was just a thumbnail of an inexperienced student's composition because the left hand part is E major but written as an F flat major chord but then i realized the context was rite of spring
Played this with the conservatory orchestra in college. The professor conducted the entire piece from memory - no score during performance. Blew me away!
I've always thought that - Firebird solo, Petroushka motif, Symphony of Psalms, Symphony in C, Agon, etc. etc. Something to do with the Russian basso profundo culture I'm sure.
Love this break down. A piece I loved enough to transcribe for solo piano and pour 2 years into memorizing! It's always fun to see new RUclips content on it.
Dance of the Adolescents... Stravinsky had at least 2 phases in his compositional life. Avant Garde and Classical. This work is from his earlier avant-garde days. Even from the thumbnail I knew which piece this would be. But I have an MM in musicology and wrote a couple papers on him in college. 😉
The thing about the Rite of Spring is, that you’re totally unprepared for the opening, where you hear the solo entrance of an exotic sounding wind instrument, (which I know is a bassoon) followed by full orchestra. Where here, you’re blown away by a torrential flood of dissonance, while understandable in the context of the music, is so disconcerting you turn off. And that’s unfortunate, because it’s remarkable music. However, I know that’s my response and not everyone’s else. But is certainly challenging for the listener.
Oh yes, in fact the chaotic dissonance is exactly what Stravinsky wanted to achieve! So I find it perfectly natural that the listener is disoriented in such a cacophonous texture.
@skylarlimex The ultimate Stravinsky dissonance (which critics at the time thought was too "obscene" to be used in classical music) are those bone wrenching trombone glissandi in the loud parts of Spring Rounds.
The Jaws theme, but the original, more prog metal version. Rite of Spring is brilliant start to end, but this section and the Spring Rounds soon after are some of my favorite bits.
The ostinato is _almost_ always the same orchestration - but not quite. The second violins play the first time round; but, for the repeat (0:52), the firsts take over instead: he wanted a slightly different effect. And, from when the bassoons come in (1:00), the horns are dropped altogether: strings only on the ostinato from then till the end. Very strange transcription this, though: with misleading enharmonic substitutions, e.g. at 0:42, where the E flat in the lower strings is strongly offset by the C-major arpeggio in the violas (also bassoon trill on C, and oboes on Cs) - but written with F-flat instead of E-natural here so difficult to spot. Actually, I hear the whole First Part of this piece as centred on C major. It starts with a bassoon riff, basically in C; and this section here ends with F & G hammered out in the bass: suggesting a resolution to C, too. The very end of the First Part also finishes on basically C major in first inversion (i.e. E in the bass); "challenged" by F#, but ending with C in the timpani. (That last chord (throughout Dance of the Earth) was nicked by Bartok (exactly the same notes) in his 4th string quartet, last movement - and the syncopated rhythms put the influence beyond doubt!) (I'll stop now.)
In fact, rhythmic accents are provided by horns playing in unison with strings, their timbre is simply submerged into strings’ one so we hear only accents
I guess in some ways I'm lucky to be as stupid as I am since there's no way I could analyze what I just listened to so I just forget about it, sit back, listen and enjoy it...
Funnily enough, I first heard the rites of spring when I was 17 and was repulsed by it . About 25 years later I heard john Williams saying that when he first heard it he was blown away. When I went back to listen again, all I could hear was James Bond ! It was a good gate way tho- I see now how great it is.
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don't think it's right to say locrian - IS used minor tetrachords for much of the melodic material, very common in russian folk music. these then interact with octatonic/chromatic subsets. worth digging out Taruskin and van den Toorn, they did a good job analysing it
@@LawrenceDunn101 Thanks for the info! That makes much more sense
Agree. The melody itself could be in "locrian" sort of, but one the Eb quintal harmony, it throws off the perception
i would want to say I have a rather good grasp of music theory, especially compared to the common person.
that said, the fuk this even mean
@@minimaster0328 the minor tetrachord is the first four notes of the minor scale. if you put two of them a tritone apart you get the octatonic scale (ie. the tone-semitone scale). you can add extra chromatic notes or "enclosures", or double at the fifth, and other weird stuff. richard taruskin spent twenty years writing a 2000-page book about what it all means
Mixolydian vibe
Moments like this are the reason I listen to classical music
@@oritdrimer4354 absolutely!
Le Sacre gets a lot better towards the end though. I don't get why people feel like this particular transition is so remarkable. It is but the tip of the iceberg of Stravinsky's genius.
@@BlintsonEcker-t5lyep I love the sacrificial dance
“classical” lol
The flute and clarinet passage at 0:42 is one of my favourite textures in any piece ever!
Brilliant orchestration! Had to check out what he did there to have such an effect
Stravinsky doesn’t just write music - he conjures fantastical characters, landscapes, complete narratives in sound.
No - that was Fantasia. 🙃
@@CloudyMcCloud00 Wrong again: it's Liszt.
@@lindildeev5721 Hmm. Where was I wrong before?
@@CloudyMcCloud00 The original comment was the first wrong thing.
@@lindildeev5721 Which original comment you mean? Also don't understand the Liszt reference.
at first i thought it was just a thumbnail of an inexperienced student's composition because the left hand part is E major but written as an F flat major chord but then i realized the context was rite of spring
@@Annihilator_5024 🤣
literally the same thing as a beginner's composition though so you were right
@@lolbruh1170😐
@Annihilator_5024 omg it u woah
@@lolbruh1170Hi wim, now you're using alt accounts for your bait comments? 😊
At 1:14 a string player does their accent at the wrong place ahah
@@Trumpyfilip sharp ears 😄
holy spot
Gives an eco like feeling
Must have been a viola.
@@hdbrot😐
More than a century later, it still sounds so fresh and modern!
Played this with the conservatory orchestra in college. The professor conducted the entire piece from memory - no score during performance. Blew me away!
Ah, that's like Loren Maazel, former conductor of the Cleveland and Austrian orchestra. He was a prodigy and conducted all music without a score.
This is my favorite part in Rite of spring! 🥰🥰🥰🥰 I love Stravinsky!! 😍😍
This and the very end
i am absolutely in love with this piece help meeeeeee
@@dedede5586 no one can help you now...
@@skylarlimex thank you for this great analysis btw!!
you could try listening to Super Rite of Spring, maybe that will help... or maybe it will make your condition worse
Real
Stravinsky loved bassoons, bassoons love stravinsky
I've always thought that - Firebird solo, Petroushka motif, Symphony of Psalms, Symphony in C, Agon, etc. etc. Something to do with the Russian basso profundo culture I'm sure.
One of my favorites!
Really enjoying your spotlighting of musical themes. Bite size music consumption.
One of the greatest!
When I saw the thumbnail, I immediately knew it was going to be the "I like very much this chord here" section 😂😂
seeing those notes on the thumbnail, i knew this was gonna be rite of spring
Metal 🔥
Unfortunately I've used that title already 😆
You need to hear Xenakis
I never really noticed the similarity between the beginning and ending parts of this video, thanks for painting them both blue
Not too similar in terms of the intervals used but it is interesting how this falling gesture is used as a cadential movement!
All hail Stravinsky! I still think of this piece randomly throughout the day.
A John Williams le gusta esta pieza
Wow! What a piece of music! Thanks
i love the rite of spring such an interesting piece
i went to see it performed once in the royal albert hall
Love this break down. A piece I loved enough to transcribe for solo piano and pour 2 years into memorizing! It's always fun to see new RUclips content on it.
@@AaronPetitPianoTutorials I watched that and it's absolutely legendary. Brilliant work, you should've commented with your main channel.
Oh woah that is totally not what I expected. He’s actually really good 💀
I thought the part at 0:15 had different type signatures, its just 4/4 with different accents ?
Brilliant, isn't it?
But the last movement of Rite of spring does indeed have rapidly changing time signatures
Dance of the Adolescents... Stravinsky had at least 2 phases in his compositional life. Avant Garde and Classical. This work is from his earlier avant-garde days. Even from the thumbnail I knew which piece this would be. But I have an MM in musicology and wrote a couple papers on him in college. 😉
Also "Primitavist" or "Dada-ist." But I'm a Renaissance expert. ;) Still Love Stravinsky though. :D
I was shocked by this video❤❤
Exquisite video as always!
@@twanswagten thanks so much!
Muito bom. Gostei. Obrigado.
stravinsky
I do not tend to like Stravinsky, but I listened to this while finishing The Lord of the Flies a while back and it was perfect.
@@jtbasener8740 That's an amazing pairing, I've never made that connection before!
sounds like a movie score
It’s in the movie fantasia.
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Thank you!
Just how many times did this piece get revised !
It’s so good you hardly ever hear it being played !
I keep trying to think of a composition that I appreciate more than this and I can't
Yeah… Totally missed this one…
The thing about the Rite of Spring is, that you’re totally unprepared for the opening, where you hear the solo entrance of an exotic sounding wind instrument, (which I know is a bassoon) followed by full orchestra. Where here, you’re blown away by a torrential flood of dissonance, while understandable in the context of the music, is so disconcerting you turn off. And that’s unfortunate, because it’s remarkable music. However, I know that’s my response and not everyone’s else. But is certainly challenging for the listener.
Oh yes, in fact the chaotic dissonance is exactly what Stravinsky wanted to achieve! So I find it perfectly natural that the listener is disoriented in such a cacophonous texture.
@skylarlimex The ultimate Stravinsky dissonance (which critics at the time thought was too "obscene" to be used in classical music) are those bone wrenching trombone glissandi in the loud parts of Spring Rounds.
Rite of Spring!!!
Thank-you for sharing. I never viewed music in this way. (yea... I am a hack), But I love music.
Ginastera's Toccata (in the first Piano Concerto). Hits like a convoy.
Exactly my experience of this music
Great analysis! I'd love to see more Stravinsky, Ravel and Scriabin. Also, have you considered Messiaen?
@@pgbpriuvnri I'd love to do some messiaen in the future...
The Jaws theme, but the original, more prog metal version.
Rite of Spring is brilliant start to end, but this section and the Spring Rounds soon after are some of my favorite bits.
The ostinato is _almost_ always the same orchestration - but not quite. The second violins play the first time round; but, for the repeat (0:52), the firsts take over instead: he wanted a slightly different effect. And, from when the bassoons come in (1:00), the horns are dropped altogether: strings only on the ostinato from then till the end. Very strange transcription this, though: with misleading enharmonic substitutions, e.g. at 0:42, where the E flat in the lower strings is strongly offset by the C-major arpeggio in the violas (also bassoon trill on C, and oboes on Cs) - but written with F-flat instead of E-natural here so difficult to spot. Actually, I hear the whole First Part of this piece as centred on C major. It starts with a bassoon riff, basically in C; and this section here ends with F & G hammered out in the bass: suggesting a resolution to C, too. The very end of the First Part also finishes on basically C major in first inversion (i.e. E in the bass); "challenged" by F#, but ending with C in the timpani. (That last chord (throughout Dance of the Earth) was nicked by Bartok (exactly the same notes) in his 4th string quartet, last movement - and the syncopated rhythms put the influence beyond doubt!) (I'll stop now.)
The Tertadoodle of the Hinky Spunky has several Locrian variants of the boing boing which leads to a most efficient expelliarmus.
The rhythm hits like a truck? Trucks are scared of Stravinsky.
Great analysis by the way!
I can’t hear this without thinking about dinosaurs and volcanoes.
Now I know where the music for "Jaws" come from
From the thumbnail I was wondering how eighth notes were going to hit me like a truck
Vaguely reminded of the ostinato in Blind Bigger Brother from The Simpsons: Hit & Run
But what about the piano concertos? His flagship compositions!
motif x is also in the ostinato😮
@@dmachine07 I wonder if he'd composed it with that intention, I think Stravinsky is quite intuitive as a composer
@@skylarlimex Probably
In fact, rhythmic accents are provided by horns playing in unison with strings, their timbre is simply submerged into strings’ one so we hear only accents
@@ДмитрийБаженов-ш6т Yes, but the strings also have accents written in
I always loose the 2/4 feeling at 1:01, even with the score!
song name plssss 😭😭😭😢
The rite of spring. This is specifically the second piece
If you think this is crazy, wait till you see the dancing
One of the reasons Stravinsky said he finally preferred the piece as an orchestral number only! 😁
Sounds like a Star Trek TOS action sequence
Am i being hunted down or something?
I guess in some ways I'm lucky to be as stupid as I am since there's no way I could analyze what I just listened to so I just forget about it, sit back, listen and enjoy it...
Sounds like Tom & Jerry music!
You depress me when you show music like this. I can play a little but if piano but have only two hands.
Crotchet = 56???? The score is marked minim = 50 (i.e. crotchet = 100)!
This sounds like it’s from jaws
Why did I think this was Sweeney Todd background music..
This must've been HARD to play
Still is, I think
What if you don't like being hit by a truck?
But pretty similar to the music of Jaws.
Because this is the inspiration of John William
Stravinsky, he destroys elegantly the established musical canon, but some of his melodies are very nice although brief.
@@JJLemire I wouldn't use the word elegantly in this case 🤣
This is from Tom and Jerry
Older
when the music is shit
Ah, another random 15 seconds of some symphony from 1938 John Williams ripped off for an entire billion dollar movie soundtrack.
nah
1. 1913, not 1938
2. Ballet, not symphony
3. "Lesser artists borrow; great artists steal" - direct quote from the person who wrote this music.
Funnily enough, I first heard the rites of spring when I was 17 and was repulsed by it . About 25 years later I heard john Williams saying that when he first heard it he was blown away. When I went back to listen again, all I could hear was James Bond ! It was a good gate way tho- I see now how great it is.
@@TheSlowPianist nobody cares
@@davidbeddoe6670 Same could be said of your original comment.