As a day-one P100S owner with ~50 miles on the odometer, most of which are at top-speed with full acceleration active, lemme just that I completely disagree on the matter of the torsion front and rear suspension. In both city streets and light off-trail, the travel of the suspension in terms of height/drop and responsiveness to variability in road surface pairs perfectly with the 10.5" tubeless tires to basically eat up any roughness underneath the wheels. Yes, Nami and other offer high-end, exotic suspension setups with insane amounts of travel that blow the P100S' torsion system out of the water, but at this price point and for this intended use case and with this feature set, they absolutely nailed it. As a city commuter with insane range and top speed, let alone Segway's QC build quality, it's hard to criticize the real-world performance of the P100s' suspension system, both front and rear and tires. Just my two cents.
Hey, Artem I see your comments everywhere and this is the closest one I could find. Did you leave the spiraled black protector thing on the break cables or did you take them off?
@@paterpater100 Those are just protective covers during packaging/transit. Pop them off to reveal the red/black brake lines underneath. If you need me for anything, find the P100S review on the r/ElectricScooters subreddit and feel free to DM me for anything. It'll be the length, well-written (😁) review by ruskityoma.
Hey, just came across your video on "escooters" and I must say, great job! You really know your stuff and your reviews are spot-on. Now, on to the exciting part - I recently stumbled upon a new crowdfunding project by freebeat called the Morph 2-in-1 e-Bike and I'm blown away by its features! The fact that it can be charged when in indoor mode is mind-blowing, and the brushless 750W motor delivering 80Nm torque and reaching a top speed of 20mph is impressive. Plus, the 80mm front suspension and puncture-resistant fat tires ensure a smooth ride on any terrain. Can't wait to support and see this e-bike in action!
Hey scooter community 👋 I just purchased the Segway P100s 2 days ago, and it’s great, I’m just curious IS THERE a fast charger for this scooter? I also have the ninebot max g30 and I use a fast charger that charges in 3 hours which uses the smaller circular port on the side right next to the standard 3 prong port on the side of the scooter. This new P100s of mine doesn’t have that smaller circular port, just the 3 prong port, does anyone know of any fast chargers sold/ made for the Segway P100s scooter?
Just got mine last week. Make sure you don’t let the Wheels leave the surface. Or you will go flying once you land the rear tire will still be at running.
@@pbugabuga p100s is rated to perform at 23% uphill, so it should perform well on 15% even at 85kg rider weight, it should go 15-20mph on a decent battery level (above 20%)
Gadget, did you try out Sport Mode when it's fully, fully unlocked in red on the HUD? If you're above 85% state of charge, the raw torque and top speed is surreal.
@@ArtemMoshkovich yes unlocked it. The torque pulls with smoothness. Coming from the ninebot max with 48v upgrade is like going from a camry to an amg benz
Received mine today as well. Coming form the Ninebot Max, couldn't believe how smooth and quiet it is. Sport mode I tried it but I got to get used to it!!! The torque is crazy!!!
@@graffmixer Did you try standard Sport Mode, denoted by a white Sport icon on the HUD, or did you unlock full-on Sport mode, denoted by Red on the HUD? The difference between the two is noticeable.
@@ArtemMoshkovich I actually haven't. I'm scared to try it!!! LOL...I only rode mine for a bit and I guess you have to ride a certain amount of miles before its initiated. I literally got mine line 4 hours ago
I was going to buy this off Amazon but the reviews and barely any information out there put me off. Bought the Max and upgrading suspension on it for now and in the future revisit this model.
I'm worried about the range on this, because where I live it's over double the price of the G30 max. If I can't get better range for same speed or if not same range it will be a waste of money.
depends on your weight and the road condition, on my end i reached 37 miles on 100% drive mode (20mph) with a mix of up and downhills, and flat road, from 100% to 10% battery, rider weight of 177lbs
@@BlitzPacker Thanks for your feedback, that is the right way to talk about range by explaining how you did it. When manufacturers' max range claims are always achieved by testing the scooter on the minimum power, with overinflated tyres, on flat roads, no wind and a light rider. I guess that on the minimum speed and my 100Kg body weight I could reach the same range. But it's disappointing that they didn't install a bigger battery, the GT1 still has a small battery while the GT2 is way too expensive!
User's Comment: "This video is awesome! I've been considering getting a backup power station for my RV trips. Does anyone have experience with the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series? Is it worth the investment?"Your Reply: "I've been using the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series for my outdoor adventures, and it has been a game-changer. The massive capacity, fast recharging, and versatile sockets make it perfect for powering my devices and appliances during extended trips. Plus, the waterproof technology gives me peace of mind in any weather. Highly recommend it!"
I need help. After watching your review I purchased a new P100s. I have been unsuccessful in obtaining the Segway handlebar extender, phone bracket and side view mirror as illustrated in the kickstarter promo. Segway customer service is useless. Bad English and don’t have any clue as to what I’m talking about. All they say is watch the Segway store. How they can get away with this when customers have spent over $2K for there product including taxes I don’t have the faintest idea. Do you know where I can find these accessories ?? JC
There is no substitute for an actual key or physical means by which to start a vehicle. The problem with all these touch systems is that when they fail they are expensive to repair. A simple switch costs very little, this key card when it fails will probably cost a fortune to repair, and judging by the fact that it's a scooter that will probably go out of fashion very quickly getting hold of replacement parts will become a nightmare probably.
If it's the same as the ninebotmax..which I believe I just read it is.... it bluetooth as well as NFC so that means it will work with the segway app. So losing a key won't be the end all be all or if the nfc its self breaks. ..its just a extra feature not the ONLY feature.
@@HypnosofSleep I suspect they will be tied together in some way so if one breaks the other won't work, if not that makes it vulnerable to attack I would have thought. It makes the thing look good by removing a key, and while new it's probably great, but once it starts getting old and things start to fail, it could become a nightmare to fix having to replace the whole system that controls the scooter if parts are not available.
there are 2 ways to turn on the p100s scooter 1. nfc keycard 2. by pressing the power button on the scooter and entering a 4 digit password that you can create in the segway app you can also disable the nfc card in the app if somehow you lost it or got stolen, to prevent the thief or anyone possesing the keycard from powering the scooter on there you have it
@@BlitzPacker Yes I get it I really do, and that is why I am saying what I'm saying. You find a lot of these systems that make use of computerised systems end up as land fill or just spare parts once the company that makes them either no longer exists or decides to no longer support the vehicle. You find it with many different things. Also what happens when the app no longer works on your phone, I'm sure it has an app to work, but what if the company simply decides it's not going to update the app to work on your latest phone, you are stuffed. I've had stuff like this before, not a scooter but other things only to discover when it comes to the app it simply stops working on the newer phones or there is no support and so on. So yep I do get it, when it's new it's great, but when it starts to fail and the company doesn't want to know anymore on that device it will become junk. But hey while it's new it great, so long as you don't mind being tied to that company with it.
gave mine back after 1 month and 300km driven. Rear suspension is damaged. left arm is not working. rear fender just dropped because it came loose too. its a design fault because every one of the two suspension arms can work independently and cause the wheelaxis to tilt sideways and get loose. its a big dissapointment. i will try the GT1 now on which the rear suspension arm is a U and not two seperate arms.
Hey Ropey, Not sure if you recall, but we chatted in comments leading up to the launch of the P-series. I now have ~50 miles on the odometer of a pair of P100S, so I can give feedback as follows: --- Normal Sport mode ("Unlimited Speed Mode") is active when "Sport" appears in white on your P100S hud, but it's still inherently limited in terms of max torque output and 25 MPH top-end. To unrestrict it, you'd need to have Sport active on the P100S hud, head to the app, and toggle on "Higher Speed in S mode." You'll know it's active when Sport changes from white on the HUD to dark red. At that point, you'll feel the max 1350W peak motor output and the 30 MPH top speed. --- Real-world range seems to honor Segway's cited numbers. For you reference, here they are below. You won't achieve 50+ unless you ride at cruise under ~15 MPH. In normal "Drive" mode at limited ~20 MPH, you're likely to see ~40-45 miles with a 165 payload. Direct from Segway: "The P100S offers a max range* of up to 62 miles (100 km) and a tested range* of 33.9 miles (54.6 km). The P65 offers a max range* of up to 40 miles (65 km) and a tested range* of 21 miles (33.8 km). *Max range: Tested while riding with a full battery, 75 kg (165 lbs) payload, 25°C (77°F), at the speed of 9.9 mph (16km/h). *Tested range: Tested while riding with a full battery, 75kg (165 lbs) payload, 25°C (77°F), at the speed of 24.8 mph (40km/h)."
Very nice high quality scooter. Not interested in the many overpowered bad build quality scooters out there. Surely a hack will come out that unlocks it to 35mph but if it meant giving up app and warranty then I wouldn’t bother with it anyways.
When you hit ~30 MPH on level ground with no head wind, you can feel the electronic governor kick in to throttle down power to keep it 30 and below. No doubt that above-30 MPH easily possible on the 650W motor they tuned for the P100S.
now here's why I think it's a bad deal: - TPU suspension is very prone to failure while doing a worse job at dampening than a hydraulic suspension - wired brakes instead of hydraulics are just a joke at this pricepoint imo - the actual range is usually almost half of what's advertised, so expect around 60kms but not much more - built-in charger sounds convenient, but heats up the internal components - this design already failed in the Ninebot Max G30 - looks like a gamer laptop with these red accents / RGB - seriously. why. e.g. a Kaboo Mantis 10 has a shorter range but at least comes with hydraulic suspension and brakes for a lower price
Why do you RUclipsrs continue to review and thus support a product with terrible customer support ? In all of the reviews no one discusses how dysfunctional their Chinese customer service is. There’s no one in America to properly support their product. I read tons of reviews from so called RUclipsrs. This prompted me to make up my informed decision to purchase their product. I compare this to the recent debacle of FTX and all the ensuing law suits against those celebrities who hawked and supported the company because investors trusted them. Why do you guys do that ? Why don’t you inform the consumers at large of all of a company’s overall operations not unlike an investigative reporter for an international news organization ? Think about my comment intelligently. Very unsatisfied American consumer.
you’re not the first person to express this. But they do have imho one of the best qc’d and built products. The poor customer support can be resolved by purchasing from a retailer rather than their official website.
You can enter a password to turn on the scooter as well so you don't have to rely on the NFC card. Segway did say that they would have a future firmware in which you can use the NFC on your phone so I'm hoping for that. I'm not a fan of the NFC card as well
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As a day-one P100S owner with ~50 miles on the odometer, most of which are at top-speed with full acceleration active, lemme just that I completely disagree on the matter of the torsion front and rear suspension.
In both city streets and light off-trail, the travel of the suspension in terms of height/drop and responsiveness to variability in road surface pairs perfectly with the 10.5" tubeless tires to basically eat up any roughness underneath the wheels. Yes, Nami and other offer high-end, exotic suspension setups with insane amounts of travel that blow the P100S' torsion system out of the water, but at this price point and for this intended use case and with this feature set, they absolutely nailed it. As a city commuter with insane range and top speed, let alone Segway's QC build quality, it's hard to criticize the real-world performance of the P100s' suspension system, both front and rear and tires.
Just my two cents.
When did you get your p100s? 😀
@@2665naruto First day of deliveries: Tuesday 9/27/22
Hey, Artem I see your comments everywhere and this is the closest one I could find. Did you leave the spiraled black protector thing on the break cables or did you take them off?
@@paterpater100 Those are just protective covers during packaging/transit. Pop them off to reveal the red/black brake lines underneath. If you need me for anything, find the P100S review on the r/ElectricScooters subreddit and feel free to DM me for anything. It'll be the length, well-written (😁) review by ruskityoma.
@@ArtemMoshkovich that's what I thought but wasn't sure, thanks Artem and I'll be sure to do that.
Just received mine today (Oct 1) and test drove it and this scooter is beast!!! Definitely can handle the NYC streets
i assume you participated in the kickstarter campaign?
Just test drove mine! Holy shit! 25 MPH on Drive mode. When I put the scooter in sport the torque almost lifted the front end.
@@official.electricdreams I did!!!
Hey! How is it in steep hills?
@@pbugabuga Handled those steep hills real well
P100s is ipx5, not ip54 😓
Hey, just came across your video on "escooters" and I must say, great job! You really know your stuff and your reviews are spot-on. Now, on to the exciting part - I recently stumbled upon a new crowdfunding project by freebeat called the Morph 2-in-1 e-Bike and I'm blown away by its features! The fact that it can be charged when in indoor mode is mind-blowing, and the brushless 750W motor delivering 80Nm torque and reaching a top speed of 20mph is impressive. Plus, the 80mm front suspension and puncture-resistant fat tires ensure a smooth ride on any terrain. Can't wait to support and see this e-bike in action!
Thanks for the review! 👍🏻
Damn good looking scooter
Hey scooter community 👋 I just purchased the Segway P100s 2 days ago, and it’s great, I’m just curious IS THERE a fast charger for this scooter?
I also have the ninebot max g30 and I use a fast charger that charges in 3 hours which uses the smaller circular port on the side right next to the standard 3 prong port on the side of the scooter.
This new P100s of mine doesn’t have that smaller circular port, just the 3 prong port, does anyone know of any fast chargers sold/ made for the Segway P100s scooter?
If the disc brakes have a visible cable running into it then it is mechanical disc
Just got mine last week. Make sure you don’t let the Wheels leave the surface. Or you will go flying once you land the rear tire will still be at running.
Hey! how is it uphills? How well would it perform with a 85kg dude on a 15%hill? Thanks.
@@pbugabuga p100s is rated to perform at 23% uphill, so it should perform well on 15% even at 85kg rider weight, it should go 15-20mph on a decent battery level (above 20%)
Just got mine today. Its very smooth and has quick acceleration. Its a very good upgrade for the Ninebot Max. Build quality is fantastic.
Gadget, did you try out Sport Mode when it's fully, fully unlocked in red on the HUD? If you're above 85% state of charge, the raw torque and top speed is surreal.
@@ArtemMoshkovich yes unlocked it. The torque pulls with smoothness. Coming from the ninebot max with 48v upgrade is like going from a camry to an amg benz
Received mine today as well. Coming form the Ninebot Max, couldn't believe how smooth and quiet it is. Sport mode I tried it but I got to get used to it!!! The torque is crazy!!!
@@graffmixer Did you try standard Sport Mode, denoted by a white Sport icon on the HUD, or did you unlock full-on Sport mode, denoted by Red on the HUD? The difference between the two is noticeable.
@@ArtemMoshkovich I actually haven't. I'm scared to try it!!! LOL...I only rode mine for a bit and I guess you have to ride a certain amount of miles before its initiated. I literally got mine line 4 hours ago
Im waiting for mine was backer 364 so I should get mine in the first batch 😀
Cuando el segundo video? Muchas gracias
There’s a long 5 inch cable coming from the caliper. Pretty easy to tell if it’s cable or hydro.
how can i find your knee protection! looks amazing
Cool review !
Do you have information about accessories from Segway for this scooter ? I can't find them anywhere on the net :-/
Thank you
What app do I need to unlock the secret sport mode?
Thanks for the review. Does one of the buttons on the left panel allow you to stay at the current speed (i.e. cruise control)?
The headlight button you turn to turn on the headlights. If you just press the button while riding it will turn on cruise control.
I was going to buy this off Amazon but the reviews and barely any information out there put me off. Bought the Max and upgrading suspension on it for now and in the future revisit this model.
Are you going to do the p100 long review? Been looking for it? 😅
Are there any swich to turn of that blue light on the rear? It's anoying.
I'm worried about the range on this, because where I live it's over double the price of the G30 max. If I can't get better range for same speed or if not same range it will be a waste of money.
depends on your weight and the road condition, on my end i reached 37 miles on 100% drive mode (20mph) with a mix of up and downhills, and flat road, from 100% to 10% battery, rider weight of 177lbs
@@BlitzPacker Thanks for your feedback, that is the right way to talk about range by explaining how you did it.
When manufacturers' max range claims are always achieved by testing the scooter on the minimum power, with overinflated tyres, on flat roads, no wind and a light rider.
I guess that on the minimum speed and my 100Kg body weight I could reach the same range.
But it's disappointing that they didn't install a bigger battery, the GT1 still has a small battery while the GT2 is way too expensive!
Any good discount cupón ? 😅
User's Comment: "This video is awesome! I've been considering getting a backup power station for my RV trips. Does anyone have experience with the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series? Is it worth the investment?"Your Reply: "I've been using the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series for my outdoor adventures, and it has been a game-changer. The massive capacity, fast recharging, and versatile sockets make it perfect for powering my devices and appliances during extended trips. Plus, the waterproof technology gives me peace of mind in any weather. Highly recommend it!"
I need help. After watching your review I purchased a new P100s. I have been unsuccessful in obtaining the Segway handlebar extender, phone bracket and side view mirror as illustrated in the kickstarter promo.
Segway customer service is useless. Bad English and don’t have any clue as to what I’m talking about. All they say is watch the Segway store. How they can get away with this when customers have spent over $2K for there product including taxes I don’t have the faintest idea.
Do you know where I can find these accessories ??
JC
mine only does 25kph why??
how secure is it ? can it be stolen? Can it be turned on without the card?
it cant be turned on without the card, and its binded to ur account. i would still lock it to something stationary outside
Was that Dogg Master?
Would be a winner if they could have priced this around 1000€
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There is no substitute for an actual key or physical means by which to start a vehicle.
The problem with all these touch systems is that when they fail they are expensive to repair.
A simple switch costs very little, this key card when it fails will probably cost a fortune to repair, and judging by the fact that it's a scooter that will probably go out of fashion very quickly getting hold of replacement parts will become a nightmare probably.
If it's the same as the ninebotmax..which I believe I just read it is.... it bluetooth as well as NFC so that means it will work with the segway app. So losing a key won't be the end all be all or if the nfc its self breaks. ..its just a extra feature not the ONLY feature.
@@HypnosofSleep I suspect they will be tied together in some way so if one breaks the other won't work, if not that makes it vulnerable to attack I would have thought.
It makes the thing look good by removing a key, and while new it's probably great, but once it starts getting old and things start to fail, it could become a nightmare to fix having to replace the whole system that controls the scooter if parts are not available.
there are 2 ways to turn on the p100s scooter
1. nfc keycard
2. by pressing the power button on the scooter and entering a 4 digit password that you can create in the segway app
you can also disable the nfc card in the app if somehow you lost it or got stolen, to prevent the thief or anyone possesing the keycard from powering the scooter on
there you have it
@@BlitzPacker Yes I get it I really do, and that is why I am saying what I'm saying.
You find a lot of these systems that make use of computerised systems end up as land fill or just spare parts once the company that makes them either no longer exists or decides to no longer support the vehicle.
You find it with many different things.
Also what happens when the app no longer works on your phone, I'm sure it has an app to work, but what if the company simply decides it's not going to update the app to work on your latest phone, you are stuffed.
I've had stuff like this before, not a scooter but other things only to discover when it comes to the app it simply stops working on the newer phones or there is no support and so on.
So yep I do get it, when it's new it's great, but when it starts to fail and the company doesn't want to know anymore on that device it will become junk.
But hey while it's new it great, so long as you don't mind being tied to that company with it.
gave mine back after 1 month and 300km driven. Rear suspension is damaged. left arm is not working. rear fender just dropped because it came loose too. its a design fault because every one of the two suspension arms can work independently and cause the wheelaxis to tilt sideways and get loose. its a big dissapointment. i will try the GT1 now on which the rear suspension arm is a U and not two seperate arms.
Thank you for sharing this is super helpful for people watching or contemplating buy this.
@@official.electricdreams
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what is the difference between S mode and the S mode in red font? And what is "park" mode? Do you think this can get 50 miles on the medium setting?
Standard S mode is speed up to 29.6 mph. Red is unlimited. Source Kickstarter comments.
@@simtrafox Fox, I'm glad to be your source. Hehehe!
Hey Ropey,
Not sure if you recall, but we chatted in comments leading up to the launch of the P-series. I now have ~50 miles on the odometer of a pair of P100S, so I can give feedback as follows:
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Normal Sport mode ("Unlimited Speed Mode") is active when "Sport" appears in white on your P100S hud, but it's still inherently limited in terms of max torque output and 25 MPH top-end.
To unrestrict it, you'd need to have Sport active on the P100S hud, head to the app, and toggle on "Higher Speed in S mode." You'll know it's active when Sport changes from white on the HUD to dark red. At that point, you'll feel the max 1350W peak motor output and the 30 MPH top speed.
---
Real-world range seems to honor Segway's cited numbers. For you reference, here they are below. You won't achieve 50+ unless you ride at cruise under ~15 MPH. In normal "Drive" mode at limited ~20 MPH, you're likely to see ~40-45 miles with a 165 payload.
Direct from Segway:
"The P100S offers a max range* of up to 62 miles (100 km) and a tested range* of 33.9 miles (54.6 km).
The P65 offers a max range* of up to 40 miles (65 km) and a tested range* of 21 miles (33.8 km).
*Max range: Tested while riding with a full battery, 75 kg (165 lbs) payload, 25°C (77°F), at the speed of 9.9 mph (16km/h).
*Tested range: Tested while riding with a full battery, 75kg (165 lbs) payload, 25°C (77°F), at the speed of 24.8 mph (40km/h)."
@@ArtemMoshkovich Not bad, thanks for the info!
@@simtrafox I thought standard S mode was 25 mph, and red S mode was 30 mph? what does unlimited mean in terms of mph?
Very nice high quality scooter. Not interested in the many overpowered bad build quality scooters out there. Surely a hack will come out that unlocks it to 35mph but if it meant giving up app and warranty then I wouldn’t bother with it anyways.
When you hit ~30 MPH on level ground with no head wind, you can feel the electronic governor kick in to throttle down power to keep it 30 and below. No doubt that above-30 MPH easily possible on the 650W motor they tuned for the P100S.
very true
Already available.
@@Baris777. only hack I know out is to unlock the European versions locked at 18mph to US 30mph. Is there one for unlocking to 35mph ?
@@Johnny2Feathers yes
Damn I only have $797 lol gotta save more 😢
You cant tell if it's a hydraulic brake?? Do your u know how they look,?? These are mehanical disc brakes
Pretty heavy. Not easy for transporting. It's meant to ride.
Did he just say the price was 2,000 Taiwan New Dollar for the full price of that e-scooter?🤔
2000usd
I couldnt live in canada with those prices. Im getting one for my woman and its only 1500 bucks
5.5.23
In deutschland nicht erlaubt P100S
Its the P65?!! WRONG TITLE,STUDENT.😢
NOT P100S.....😮.
7:13 she's not impressed
😄😄😄😄😄
now here's why I think it's a bad deal:
- TPU suspension is very prone to failure while doing a worse job at dampening than a hydraulic suspension
- wired brakes instead of hydraulics are just a joke at this pricepoint imo
- the actual range is usually almost half of what's advertised, so expect around 60kms but not much more
- built-in charger sounds convenient, but heats up the internal components - this design already failed in the Ninebot Max G30
- looks like a gamer laptop with these red accents / RGB - seriously. why.
e.g. a Kaboo Mantis 10 has a shorter range but at least comes with hydraulic suspension and brakes for a lower price
$2k 😂😂😂😂
Does not know his stuff. He can’t tell if the brakes are mechanical or hydraulic
Why do you RUclipsrs continue to review and thus support a product with terrible customer support ?
In all of the reviews no one discusses how dysfunctional their Chinese customer service is. There’s no one in America to properly support their product.
I read tons of reviews from so called RUclipsrs. This prompted me to make up my informed decision to purchase their product.
I compare this to the recent debacle of FTX and all the ensuing law suits against those celebrities who hawked and supported the company because investors trusted them.
Why do you guys do that ? Why don’t you inform the consumers at large of all of a company’s overall operations not unlike an investigative reporter for an international news organization ?
Think about my comment intelligently.
Very unsatisfied American consumer.
you’re not the first person to express this. But they do have imho one of the best qc’d and built products. The poor customer support can be resolved by purchasing from a retailer rather than their official website.
The nfc is a dealbreaker for me. Ill lose it.
You can enter a password to turn on the scooter as well so you don't have to rely on the NFC card. Segway did say that they would have a future firmware in which you can use the NFC on your phone so I'm hoping for that. I'm not a fan of the NFC card as well
And it also unlock with a Bluetooth connection with the phone
You don’t pay attention. The deal breaker is the price, right?
@@graffmixer I have used an NFC card & loved it.
Always worked 💯.