Awesome work, but Just a heads up, this is a gear protected sport climb, trad means ground up. meaning you cannot have previous knowledge of what is above you for a pure traditional ascent. when you inspect a climb from the top down or have previously climbed it as a sport climb rehearsing the movement that is no longer a "trad" climb, and just as a caveat, bolting is not anti trad, it merely must be done ground up for it to count as a "trad" climb. There are many bolted trad climbs.
I have never once heard that definition of trad before. It sounds like you’re just describing an onsight climb, especially since you said you can have a bolted trad route.
This is a bit of a confusing statement here... he is still climbing trad. But yes not the same as working the moves on gear and falling (we're assuming he did climb it first as a sport route). It's a headpoint (instead of redpoint), but still is very much trad climbing
Definitely still a trad climb. Look to headpointing which is rehearsing a route on top rope before committing to climbing it ground up. It's done by many of the great British trad climbers. What Jorge did is what's called a greenpoint. Climbing a bolted route on gear. Totally still a trad climb. I'm a climbing guide with several trad ground-up first ascents.
If you use this definition then "ground up" holds no distinction. There are plenty, plenty of trad climbs that were TR lines before hand or were established in some other way than ground up onsight. This is just an attempt at gatekeeping the term even further lol Thankfully the Spanish dont care for such things "gear protected sport climb" haha, dude what elbow deep asshats do you have to be around to spray at this level.
Buenísima! Enhorabuena!💪💪
Awesome Jorge!!!! 🙂
Bien echo! Durante mi tiempo en España vi bastante vías similares. ¡Las fisuras estan bien filosas pero me ecanto encontrarlas!
Y solamente dos intentos?! Wow!
Que bueno you!
Awesome work, but Just a heads up, this is a gear protected sport climb, trad means ground up. meaning you cannot have previous knowledge of what is above you for a pure traditional ascent. when you inspect a climb from the top down or have previously climbed it as a sport climb rehearsing the movement that is no longer a "trad" climb, and just as a caveat, bolting is not anti trad, it merely must be done ground up for it to count as a "trad" climb. There are many bolted trad climbs.
I have never once heard that definition of trad before. It sounds like you’re just describing an onsight climb, especially since you said you can have a bolted trad route.
This is a bit of a confusing statement here... he is still climbing trad. But yes not the same as working the moves on gear and falling (we're assuming he did climb it first as a sport route). It's a headpoint (instead of redpoint), but still is very much trad climbing
Definitely still a trad climb. Look to headpointing which is rehearsing a route on top rope before committing to climbing it ground up. It's done by many of the great British trad climbers. What Jorge did is what's called a greenpoint. Climbing a bolted route on gear. Totally still a trad climb. I'm a climbing guide with several trad ground-up first ascents.
If you use this definition then "ground up" holds no distinction. There are plenty, plenty of trad climbs that were TR lines before hand or were established in some other way than ground up onsight. This is just an attempt at gatekeeping the term even further lol
Thankfully the Spanish dont care for such things
"gear protected sport climb" haha, dude what elbow deep asshats do you have to be around to spray at this level.
Eres la copia de Dani y de txavo vales y de muchos mas jaja...