First full electronic governor I had to deal with was on a Cummins KT38...a REAL nightmare. Overspeeds, speed flutter, droop... a mess...until I found out that the idiots from Alturdyne had wired in the jumper for a DUAL bearing alternator on a single bearing Marathon. Took that out and it was more stable than a Woodward. That KT38 had other probs as well (oil consumption) due starting up the nee engine with the block DRY. Never did business with them again for anything.
As a retired Onan Tech, it warms my heart to see a younger person who actually understands how generators work. There's a whole generation of 'technicians' who are parts changers with laptops.
Interesting and obvious design flaw resulting in inadequate lubrication. It would be great to see if you can fab up an electronic governor and get it running. Thx for the video!
I've just discovered this channel. Sir, you have a gift for leading people through the topic, I really enjoyed your description; to do that unscripted, is a real talent
It's soo refreshing to watch a youtube channel that hasn't gotten a 'big head" like soo many others. This just seems like good entertaining and informative content, not a bunch of fluff and filler/ads. Thank you for a genuine channel.
Cool video. I enjoy the failure analysis. It is an excellent way to learn. I think an electronic fix would be a great bookend for old school and new technologies.
Hell yea I wanna see a conversion...Cant leave us hangin now!...and I like the "crunchies" reference..lol...put a camera on your gas meter...watch it spin!
I like you, you remind me of my uncle. He worked for the NYS Canal Corporation. He used to show me how all the ancient mechanical equipment worked. Thank You
Your diagnosis seems very accurate, I came to that conclusion when I saw what was left of the bearings in the top of the governor. The flyweights had the scuff-marks indicating high RPM also. Westinghouse should have stayed with air-brakes, that system is widely used in both railroad and semi truck applications. The bits that fell out when you opened the governor up look like the remnants of circlips that may have held the thrust bearings in place, but were eroded to failure by friction due to the lack of oil. Excellent work.
Outstanding videography & fault diagnostics...excellent troubleshooting. Somewhere in an old Onan warehouse is a supply department shelf filled with 60 year old new governors waiting to be requisitioned. Sounds like a field trip to Onan in Part II.
Engine was built on Line 5 at the Waukesha Motor Plant in Waukesha Wi. My grandfather would have been one of the men doing the final assembly. I worked in the test room during the early 70's and set up or tested some of the last of these engines to be produced. Thanks for the video. Pretty cool to see one of these old engines again.
It's "Roy LINE." This was a renaming of the Le Roi line of engjnes after Dresser Industries, through its subsidiary WABCO, bought Le Roi. WABCO also owned Waukesha, which bought out Climax, thus putting several competing engine manufacturers under one roof.
Le Roi, translated from French means The King, thus you see the 'crown' symbol above Line, perhaps the massive cubic inches for a gas engine signified being the king of cubic inches.
I really like how you explain things so I can follow along and understand them. Really like your channel. PS: I'd like to see that electronic governor.
Mikey, do the conversion to electronic speed control/governor. I'd love to see it. In my opinion, for whatever it's worth, this site and "Mr. Carlson's Lab" are very well done in that they give us, or at least me, an education about how these mechanical and electronic devices function, why they are malfunctioning and how to repair them. Keep up the good work, Mike!
When you started showing the carnage in the governor housing, I was wondering if there is a modern, electronic equivalent to it, using hall effect switches, or a resolver or something like that. Then you mention electronic conversion.. I've got an idea in my head, and I'd love to see how close I am to what industry has designed.. Please do the conversion!
any friend of steve1989mreinfo is a friend of mine! ... alright I was going to subscribe anyway, I love the way you draw out the diagrams on the steel table and explain things in detail.
"pushed up by atmospheric pressure" is so correct it made me smile and cry out, "Yes!" I love your explanations because you make such an effort to be correct about your use of words. That said, I'm also a fan of engines and generators and really appreciate your videos. I would love to see the conversion to electronic governor! Thanks very much. (I should note that I'm a translator of technical documents and scientific manuscripts, so words are very important to me). :-)
1 - loved the video of the troubleshooting. Very interesting to see someone else thoughts when doing things like this. It helps me when I need to troubleshoot something as well. 2 - heck yes, we want the conversion. Ya almost gotta now that you mentioned it. 3 - love the reference..... "Let's get this onto a tray - Nice!". I watch his MRE and survival meal reviews also.
Amazing such small minute damage can cause things to go haywire (well except the destroyed bearing) I wonder if taking it to a machinist and having a small 20-30th groove cut in the lower bushing at the oil inlet hole to allow 360 oil flow would help if he decided to rebuild the mechanical (or maybe a "fix/recall" for other generators that are still running)
I think the governor's thrust bearing failed a long time ago, and the weights have been rubbing for a long time, increasing the governor drive load, wearing the gears excessively. I'm thinking the thrust bearing failed first, because nothing looks like it really got excruciatingly hot, which would be a sign of lack of oil. Nothing really looks very dry either. There are many engines that utilize "timed" oil supply for various things without issue. For example, the Toyota F-series engines only have one tiny hole drilled into the camshaft that supplies oil to the top-end once a revolution. I also believe the vacuum booster might also help reduce governor droop under load? It'd definitely be cool to see an electronic governor conversion. I've seen people do it with old aftermarket cruise-control modules before.
I just found your video,You really do a great job of explaining things. I think an electronic govenor video would be awesome. I've been a mechanic in one form or another for 50 years,Its good to see these old beast still running. Thanks.
I'm interested in seeing the electric governor refit. I'd be very surprised if you have a high pressure natural gas line feeding the house, are there options to feed it from a bottle?
@@dustinpoole5106 yep! I've got a propane powered 70kva onan with a turbo 460 Ford on it and it will make 4 500lb. Propane tanks in parallel cold enough to condense water on them even in the middle of summer
I love your videos, and I would love to see a conversion to electronic governor. Then see you hook up the big load banks and give it a work out. Keep up the great videos.
Darned good explanation of how the governor system works, the vacuum amount varies, and how things change under load. I'd have to see it a couple times more, but so far so good.
Engine only exercised once a week, failed when it was called on for a extended run. Usually ran 30 min a week which is 26 hrs a year, or about 1300 hours in 50 years. Really under extended load conditions for about 300hrs in 50 years. Usually most power outages are less that 3hrs. This ways an unit not used hard. It was not used for 24 hour at time normally. It should have lasted much longer. with no issues. But I believe had a big oil issue in the drive gears of the engine area of the govenor
Great video mike and I work for Cummins and I do a good bit of onan consumer product and I would like to see you convert this to electronic governor. Your channel is great
@@MitzvosGolem1 There's also a 903 Cummins V8...but that's a diesel. Its largest use is in the Bradley fighting vehicle where it has twin turbos and makes about 750 horsepower.
Your videos pop into my feed quite a bit. Didn't realize till today that I wasn't subscribed! Well, I fixed that, now I will get a notification if you convert this. Thanks for the education about mechanical governors. Never dug into them before.
Great share Mike , that was giving trouble before they noticed the total shutdown .. I sure would ENJOY seeing you convert it over , Let's save another Onan ..LOL.. Thanks Mike !!
Great video thanks.If you fit an electronic governor don't forget to block off oil feed hole to governor or you will lose some oil pressure to rest of engine.Cheers from UK.
It wouldn't run what you have to understand its generator motor so its actually meant to turn at alot lower rpm than a normal gas engine and is actually why so big in cubic inches like a diesel turns very low rpm just like gas it makes it low wear on it
@@Joelontugs That's probably why it ran fine for 60 years. Everything moves so slowly, I'd also imagine that the parts are all overbuilt, weight probably isn't a huge consideration in a stationary powerplant.
@@Joelontugs, if you've ever built an engine you know that can be remedied. Balance, polish, port, big fn cam, custom split duel four barrel intake, or fukit twin turbo. Boom 3000 easy. Even if it reds at 5k
RUclips recommended one of your videos so you have a new subscriber. I enjoy watching these vintage generator engines looking forward to catching up to your videos.
Don't know why I'm watching your videos or how I found your channel, but very informative and super cool to watch. Also made me laugh with the steve1989mreinfo reference.
An electronic governor is the best option. Even if you had an old mechanical governor to install you still have to address the worn drive gear. Keep up the good work.
Great video brother. I love the way you are so methodical in your work. It says alot about you as a person. I hope you and your family are staying safe and well. Keep up the fantastic work brother.
That was a great education! Just as if I was attending a school learning how that thing works! Great instructor! I went 'oh-oh' as as soon as you said that's a lot of spring tension there. I was wondering why such a behemoth spring had to be used to control a flappy throttle valve! Then when you lifted the flyweight assembly out of the block I said, wow, that looks awfully dry. Then the gears worn out and so on. It may have lived longer if the oiling supply was better designed. Now, with advanced electronics, going to an electronic speed controller would be a no brainer. That genset is still young in hours IMO. Good Luck!
When you pulled out the governor and mentioned about the teeth being sharp I noticed right away a lack of oil. Also if Oil is supposed to be pushed up into the governor to lubricate things, it’s pretty dry you don’t seem to have oil dripping off onto the cardboard or anything. I did notice at least one common here dimension lubrication. You could probably start that holding the throttle closed and watch for oil being sprayed out by that gear. If there’s a pipe plug inside the engine that goes into an oil galley that has a small hole like .040 inch or so could be plugged up and no oil is getting spit onto the governor gear assembly and possibly the distributor as well
As you were showing all the carnage in the governor, I was thinking of the various damaged parts that can be made at a machine shop, or electronic conversion. And then you said so. The speed sensor can also be run in the governor location, instead of the fly wheel, only that gear in the cam is too worn. Very much interested in seeing the electronic conversion.
Great video Mike with a crystal clear explanation. My first thought based on your drawing was ...what a Rube Goldberg approach. Failure analysis very clear. Also impressed with a possible resurrection via electronic governor control I'd love to see that.
Hey buddy you are a fine mechanic and if you don't want to use an electric screwdriver then you don't have to ! And you did a great job on that big V8 governor
Love the videos and all the detail you include! I would love to see the conversion that would be very interesting. I guess that would be partly dependent on the wear of the lower end due to all the metal floating around. Thanks for continually putting up the great videos. Thanks from Gallatin TN.
Love the video. Yes please. Would love to see the electronic Governor installation. Wish you were in Australia, I have a V12 dorman and a v16 Detroit as projects to restore. Cheers Ron
Love the way only one upper radiator hose was replaced. Nothing wrong with unit, company was too cheap to properly maintain things. You got a nice unit with low hours for free! Good job! Hell, the factory paint isn’t even burnt off on the right hand exhaust! I’ll bet it still has the hone pattern on the cylinder walls! I wish I could get free stuff like that!
The conversion process to an electronic governor would be interesting to see.
Very easy to convert, and would work better
I agree I would like to watch that
yes
First full electronic governor I had to deal with was on a Cummins KT38...a REAL nightmare. Overspeeds, speed flutter, droop... a mess...until I found out that the idiots from Alturdyne had wired in the jumper for a DUAL bearing alternator on a single bearing Marathon. Took that out and it was more stable than a Woodward. That KT38 had other probs as well (oil consumption) due starting up the nee engine with the block DRY. Never did business with them again for anything.
I'd like to see that too.
Love to see you convert it to an electronic governor and see that monster run. Great video. 👍🏻
As a retired Onan Tech, it warms my heart to see a younger person who actually understands how generators work. There's a whole generation of 'technicians' who are parts changers with laptops.
Interesting and obvious design flaw resulting in inadequate lubrication.
It would be great to see if you can fab up an electronic governor and get it running.
Thx for the video!
I would be interested in seeing the conversion. I am amazed at your knowledge of these systems.
I'd love to see you make the conversion to an electronic governor.
I've just discovered this channel. Sir, you have a gift for leading people through the topic, I really enjoyed your description; to do that unscripted, is a real talent
This set should be saved by any means possible! What a gem. Thank you for sharing Mike
Absolutely get it operational, additionally what would the repair cost compare to replacement. Execellent detail.
It's soo refreshing to watch a youtube channel that hasn't gotten a 'big head" like soo many others. This just seems like good entertaining and informative content, not a bunch of fluff and filler/ads. Thank you for a genuine channel.
Cool video. I enjoy the failure analysis. It is an excellent way to learn. I think an electronic fix would be a great bookend for old school and new technologies.
Always good to "hear" who else watches Steve1989's videos.. Nice! xD
Hell yea I wanna see a conversion...Cant leave us hangin now!...and I like the "crunchies" reference..lol...put a camera on your gas meter...watch it spin!
You are a great teacher in the way you devote so much effort into explaining theory, rather than simple diagnostics. I subscribed.
hes one of those neighbors you want when there is a power outage :) "never fear power outages again"
Nevermind that, he can supplement the grid!
for sure you could easly power two house without breaking a sweat
@@richardbrobeck2384 Try 10
I like you, you remind me of my uncle. He worked for the NYS Canal Corporation. He used to show me how all the ancient mechanical equipment worked. Thank You
Yes would love to see it run again
Your diagnosis seems very accurate, I came to that conclusion when I saw what was left of the bearings in the top of the governor. The flyweights had the scuff-marks indicating high RPM also. Westinghouse should have stayed with air-brakes, that system is widely used in both railroad and semi truck applications. The bits that fell out when you opened the governor up look like the remnants of circlips that may have held the thrust bearings in place, but were eroded to failure by friction due to the lack of oil. Excellent work.
yes if the engine and generator are still in good condition it is still beneficial to convert the govenor
Outstanding videography & fault diagnostics...excellent troubleshooting. Somewhere in an old Onan warehouse is a supply department shelf filled with 60 year old new governors waiting to be requisitioned. Sounds like a field trip to Onan in Part II.
I’m a generator technician by trade, I wish I had a guy like you on my crew... you sir know your shit.
Are you in or near upstate ny.???
@@lenielupian2699 South New Jersey I believe, nearer Philly than NYC. Right Mike?
Engine was built on Line 5 at the Waukesha Motor Plant in Waukesha Wi. My grandfather would have been one of the men doing the final assembly. I worked in the test room during the early 70's and set up or tested some of the last of these engines to be produced. Thanks for the video. Pretty cool to see one of these old engines again.
Great video Mike. I'd love to see the conversion on that unit.
Love the Vid man!.. I like how you analyze the problem before you start you work..
It's "Roy LINE." This was a renaming of the Le Roi line of engjnes after Dresser Industries, through its subsidiary WABCO, bought Le Roi. WABCO also owned Waukesha, which bought out Climax, thus putting several competing engine manufacturers under one roof.
Yeah. There's a reason the logo as those two separated. ROI Line.
Any idea why they would had made it reverse-flow? I know they did that with the original Cadillac V8 so it would fit better in the confines of a tank.
Le Roi, translated from French means The King, thus you see the 'crown' symbol above Line, perhaps the massive cubic inches for a gas engine signified being the king of cubic inches.
I really like how you explain things so I can follow along and understand them.
Really like your channel.
PS: I'd like to see that electronic governor.
Sure, I'd like to see the conversion to an electronic governor. But, most importantly, can you match that paint color?
Hi Mark...yeah...that's a cool colour, isn't it?
Seen it somewhere else engine-wise but cannot place it.
Cheers.
@@patagualianmostly7437 - pretty typical Onan color I think
Good video, show the electronic conversion.
Detroit green
Looks like a Hammerite colour.
Mikey, do the conversion to electronic speed control/governor. I'd love to see it. In my opinion, for whatever it's worth, this site and "Mr. Carlson's Lab" are very well done in that they give us, or at least me, an education about how these mechanical and electronic devices function, why they are malfunctioning and how to repair them. Keep up the good work, Mike!
Love to see you convert it to an electronic governo
Came to this channel for running generators.
Stayed for the education.
Bravo!
When you started showing the carnage in the governor housing, I was wondering if there is a modern, electronic equivalent to it, using hall effect switches, or a resolver or something like that. Then you mention electronic conversion.. I've got an idea in my head, and I'd love to see how close I am to what industry has designed.. Please do the conversion!
I gave a similar reply without reading yours here, we were thinking along the same lines.!!
Use the distributor for a rpm signal it's not like that's never been done.
Amazing really that it takes that kind of displacement to drive that capacity!
That was an excellent video on old times governors.
Jim
any friend of steve1989mreinfo is a friend of mine!
... alright I was going to subscribe anyway, I love the way you draw out the diagrams on the steel table and explain things in detail.
"pushed up by atmospheric pressure" is so correct it made me smile and cry out, "Yes!" I love your explanations because you make such an effort to be correct about your use of words.
That said, I'm also a fan of engines and generators and really appreciate your videos. I would love to see the conversion to electronic governor! Thanks very much.
(I should note that I'm a translator of technical documents and scientific manuscripts, so words are very important to me). :-)
Yes, please show the conversion!
1 - loved the video of the troubleshooting. Very interesting to see someone else thoughts when doing things like this. It helps me when I need to troubleshoot something as well. 2 - heck yes, we want the conversion. Ya almost gotta now that you mentioned it. 3 - love the reference..... "Let's get this onto a tray - Nice!". I watch his MRE and survival meal reviews also.
Amazing such small minute damage can cause things to go haywire (well except the destroyed bearing)
I wonder if taking it to a machinist and having a small 20-30th groove cut in the lower bushing at the oil inlet hole to allow 360 oil flow would help if he decided to rebuild the mechanical (or maybe a "fix/recall" for other generators that are still running)
I hope there's a big honkin' magnet on the oil drain plug.
Magnets on the oil filter won't protect the oil pump from damage.
@@williamvaughan1218 You need to get all that metal out of the engine.
Just found your channel and love it, as for the conversion, I'll watch it,
I think the governor's thrust bearing failed a long time ago, and the weights have been rubbing for a long time, increasing the governor drive load, wearing the gears excessively. I'm thinking the thrust bearing failed first, because nothing looks like it really got excruciatingly hot, which would be a sign of lack of oil. Nothing really looks very dry either. There are many engines that utilize "timed" oil supply for various things without issue. For example, the Toyota F-series engines only have one tiny hole drilled into the camshaft that supplies oil to the top-end once a revolution.
I also believe the vacuum booster might also help reduce governor droop under load? It'd definitely be cool to see an electronic governor conversion. I've seen people do it with old aftermarket cruise-control modules before.
An electronic gm cable throttle cruise module will work fine as a governor. The only problem is that the speed has to be set every power cycle
I just found your video,You really do a great job of explaining things. I think an electronic govenor video would be awesome.
I've been a mechanic in one form or another for 50 years,Its good to see these old beast still running. Thanks.
I'm interested in seeing the electric governor refit. I'd be very surprised if you have a high pressure natural gas line feeding the house, are there options to feed it from a bottle?
844 cubes he'd be sucking bottles faster than an alcoholic after an AA meeting
@@dustinpoole5106 yep! I've got a propane powered 70kva onan with a turbo 460 Ford on it and it will make 4 500lb. Propane tanks in parallel cold enough to condense water on them even in the middle of summer
@@dangoldbach6570 Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase: you cold hearted bitch.
@@dustinpoole5106 good analogy
It's 884, not 844
I love your videos, and I would love to see a conversion to electronic governor. Then see you hook up the big load banks and give it a work out. Keep up the great videos.
Would love to see the conversion.
Yes I would like to see you convert it to an electronic governor. Nice to watch someone as knowledgeable as you working on these generators.
Im interested in seeing a conversion! Cool beans!
Darned good explanation of how the governor system works, the vacuum amount varies, and how things change under load. I'd have to see it a couple times more, but so far so good.
Well crud. It only lasted 58 years. They just don't make 'em like they used to, huh?
1600 hours at 60 mph is under 100k miles. This engine did a lot of sitting around.
aus71383 I think he should have patched the exhaust and fixed the governor. Left it on site.
Then again, they never did.....
"Lifetime" guarantee, when life expectancy was 60-ish? lol
Engine only exercised once a week, failed when it was called on for a extended run. Usually ran 30 min a week which is 26 hrs a year, or about 1300 hours in 50 years. Really under extended load conditions for about 300hrs in 50 years. Usually most power outages are less that 3hrs. This ways an unit not used hard. It was not used for 24 hour at time normally. It should have lasted much longer. with no issues. But I believe had a big oil issue in the drive gears of the engine area of the govenor
Great video mike and I work for Cummins and I do a good bit of onan consumer product and I would like to see you convert this to electronic governor. Your channel is great
"I don't WANT an electric screwdriver..." LOL I love it!
My kinda guy...
Fascinating tear down of the governor. would love to see the conversion.
SmallEngineMechanic: "Yes, this fits my channel's description, 844ci, perfect, how violently American" :D
Russia made a 845cu in.
🤣
Add boost until it scatters
What’s wrong with v8?
Oh good..I'm not the only one that thought that...LOL
@@MitzvosGolem1 There's also a 903 Cummins V8...but that's a diesel. Its largest use is in the Bradley fighting vehicle where it has twin turbos and makes about 750 horsepower.
Your videos pop into my feed quite a bit. Didn't realize till today that I wasn't subscribed! Well, I fixed that, now I will get a notification if you convert this.
Thanks for the education about mechanical governors. Never dug into them before.
"nice ok" someone has been watching someone putting 50 year + old MRE's on a tray , and eating them , now haven't they LOL
*giggles*
The outside lighting looked fine & YES to see you make the conversion to an electronic governor. Great video & she is a beast.
Please convert it! Want to see it run and make power!👍
Awesome Video! You explained how a Governor works very well. Thanks for the tour.
definetly want to see an elctronic governor setup
Great share Mike , that was giving trouble before they noticed the total shutdown .. I sure would ENJOY seeing you convert it over , Let's save another Onan ..LOL.. Thanks Mike !!
Steve1989 reference? Nice.
Just stumbled across your site love it. In 20minutes I learnt quite a lot .
Okay ! Let's get it out on the tray. Nice!
A VERY good, easy to understand description on mechanical governors. Would love to see an electronic conversion.
I think the crown on the tag gave it away it's likely pronounced "royal-line"
Not quite Roi is French for King
Great video thanks.If you fit an electronic governor don't forget to block off oil feed hole to governor or you will lose some oil pressure to rest of engine.Cheers from UK.
So uh how much for it I wanna put it in my truck lmao
I thought the same thing
It wouldn't run what you have to understand its generator motor so its actually meant to turn at alot lower rpm than a normal gas engine and is actually why so big in cubic inches like a diesel turns very low rpm just like gas it makes it low wear on it
Joel Lyons same reason 4 cylinder engines can go up to 8k rpm and motor cycle engines can exceed 12k rpm
@@Joelontugs That's probably why it ran fine for 60 years. Everything moves so slowly, I'd also imagine that the parts are all overbuilt, weight probably isn't a huge consideration in a stationary powerplant.
@@Joelontugs, if you've ever built an engine you know that can be remedied.
Balance, polish, port, big fn cam, custom split duel four barrel intake, or fukit twin turbo.
Boom 3000 easy.
Even if it reds at 5k
I thought your diagnosis; and the explanation of the cause/effect and your showing the wear on the gov internals was excellent.
i would like to see you convert this to electronic
Love to see you turn governor control electric , thanks for all your pure knowledge sir stay safe
I bet you got straight "A"s in school.
RUclips recommended one of your videos so you have a new subscriber. I enjoy watching these vintage generator engines looking forward to catching up to your videos.
You've captured my interest in the conversion process...Let's "get her done"!!!
Don't know why I'm watching your videos or how I found your channel, but very informative and super cool to watch.
Also made me laugh with the steve1989mreinfo reference.
Nice take apart of the mech governor! Thanks for the detail camera work!
I would love to see electronic conversion...thanks for taking the time to explain all this stuff to us Mike.
I'm definitely interested in seeing this converted to an electronic governor. great video thanks for sharing this
Mike, you have really hit your stride on your videos. Nice job. RK is proud!
Loved this video Mike. Do the governor conversion, I'm sure everyone would love to see that!
Great video, very interesting and your explanation was very informative. I would like to see you walk us through the conversion.
An electronic governor is the best option. Even if you had an old mechanical governor to install you still have to address the worn drive gear. Keep up the good work.
Great video brother. I love the way you are so methodical in your work. It says alot about you as a person. I hope you and your family are staying safe and well. Keep up the fantastic work brother.
That was a great education! Just as if I was attending a school learning how that thing works! Great instructor! I went 'oh-oh' as as soon as you said that's a lot of spring tension there. I was wondering why such a behemoth spring had to be used to control a flappy throttle valve! Then when you lifted the flyweight assembly out of the block I said, wow, that looks awfully dry. Then the gears worn out and so on. It may have lived longer if the oiling supply was better designed. Now, with advanced electronics, going to an electronic speed controller would be a no brainer. That genset is still young in hours IMO. Good Luck!
Good explanation of how the governor works, thanks! Interested to see how you convert this to electronic or alternative governor setup.
When you pulled out the governor and mentioned about the teeth being sharp I noticed right away a lack of oil. Also if Oil is supposed to be pushed up into the governor to lubricate things, it’s pretty dry you don’t seem to have oil dripping off onto the cardboard or anything. I did notice at least one common here dimension lubrication. You could probably start that holding the throttle closed and watch for oil being sprayed out by that gear. If there’s a pipe plug inside the engine that goes into an oil galley that has a small hole like .040 inch or so could be plugged up and no oil is getting spit onto the governor gear assembly and possibly the distributor as well
X2... lack of oil as he mentions...
As you were showing all the carnage in the governor, I was thinking of the various damaged parts that can be made at a machine shop, or electronic conversion. And then you said so. The speed sensor can also be run in the governor location, instead of the fly wheel, only that gear in the cam is too worn. Very much interested in seeing the electronic conversion.
Great video Mike with a crystal clear explanation. My first thought based on your drawing was ...what a Rube Goldberg approach. Failure analysis very clear. Also impressed with a possible resurrection via electronic governor control I'd love to see that.
I'll bet that puppy would have had an interesting vibration signature! ;) I'd LOVE to see an electronic governor conversion.
Would love to see the electronic version fitted very interesting Mike thanks for sharing 👍🇦🇺👀
thanks for the drama free quality uploads its refreshing not to be dismissed as a know nothing .looking forward to whats next
I’d Like to see That Conversion 😮😀😊 That Engine Has Lots Of Life Left in It 😊😊😊
Hey buddy you are a fine mechanic and if you don't want to use an electric screwdriver then you don't have to ! And you did a great job on that big V8 governor
Love the videos and all the detail you include! I would love to see the conversion that would be very interesting. I guess that would be partly dependent on the wear of the lower end due to all the metal floating around. Thanks for continually putting up the great videos. Thanks from Gallatin TN.
Love the video. Yes please. Would love to see the electronic Governor installation. Wish you were in Australia, I have a V12 dorman and a v16 Detroit as projects to restore. Cheers Ron
Le Roi was also known for compressors, some were very large. Never knew about wabco owning them, thanks.
That’s how I know the name and I didn’t know WABCO owned them either.
Great explanation of the governor for those who had no idea!
Excellent analysis and thanks for showing the autopsy!
Looking forward to seeing the electronic conversion. Save the old girl and overcome the defects!
Love the way only one upper radiator hose was replaced. Nothing wrong with unit, company was too cheap to properly maintain things. You got a nice unit with low hours for free! Good job! Hell, the factory paint isn’t even burnt off on the right hand exhaust! I’ll bet it still has the hone pattern on the cylinder walls! I wish I could get free stuff like that!
That thing is an absolute unit. I’m all for the electronic governor conversion!
You're very good at explaining. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Over course , seeing you add the electronic governor would complete the video .
Thanks again