Every week it continues to amaze me how much Brady was able to accomplish with the complete incompetence of this coaching staff. Starting at the top with Bill.
Bill really thought that all these years he stole these veterans or mid level free agents that no other GMs signed because he is a "genius" and saw something in them that nobody else recognized and his EGO has him still thinking that was all him being great at finding hidden gems. I think he is the only person that thinks of himself in that light anymore. It is now glaringly obvious that Tom Brady's greatness of being able to win no matter what roster Bill put together was what was happening all those years. Any shortcomings or misses or busts that Bill had aquired as a GM were not so evident and noticeable because Brady had you winning no matter what, through pretty much any poor GM moves. 💯🤷 In Brady's last couple years with us he was older and no longer able to overcome and succeed and elevate the team to produce and win through Bill's poor and cheap way of building a roster. He still uses this method through this very day but there is one huge problem, you don't have the greatest player of all time anymore. Continuing to use the the same roster building approach and method through Cam Newton and Mac Jones being his quarterbacks has exposed it. 10 years ago if you put Brady in the exact same roster that they are 2-9 with now Brady would have this same team winning at least 10 games and going to the playoffs! He dealt with the same bullshit Bill is having this young QB endure for almost 20 years and it was barely ever even pointed out because Brady always won. It's now very clear to me at least that Bill owes the biggest bulk of his success as New Englands coach to the GOAT the one and only Tom Brady. Bill will never give anyone more credit than himself for his career. Not to mention he was under Bill Parcels and he was the defensive coordinator with maybe the GOAT on defense in Lawrence Taylor so Bill should show alot more appreciation and admiration to just those 2 guys alone. Just my observation and opinion lol
Yes! To all of that! Very sad that Brady could not retire with the Pat's. Both Bill and Brady could have retired together last year. Bill doesn't have that much class. He has ego as you said. Bill is a bum.
I wonder how many SB Tom could have really won if Bill was not always building the team on the cheap. He let Manning, a very average QB beat them twice and a back up QB beat them while their season starter Malcom sit on the bench for god only knows why.
@@mtadams2009 fa sho!!! The benching of Malcolm Butler in the super bowl was one of the most ignorant and stubborn game time decisions ever if not the worst💯 Butler was there WR1 cover corner all year and had an outstanding season and played more snaps on the field then any other player that year. Dude was zoomed in on during the anthem with tears running down his face it was and still is a completely baffling decision to which Bill of course gave no explanation for. If I'm Brady and other top players I'd be pissed at him for that one you can't swallow your pride and ego for one game, which is the super bowl to put your best product on the field is crazy and it literally cost them a super bowl that was the difference in a game where Brady throws for over 500 yards trying to overcome the Pats horrid pass defense and even that wasn't enough! 💯 Everyone on the team gave all they could to win that game except Bill he could've put the best corner on the team out there with a little bit of pride swallowing but nope that ego was first before his whole team and sorry but that's selfish and actually sadd tbh
@@MikeMack1986Someone knows the whole story but for some reason it’s never been told. I have heard Tom never forgave him and it was part of the reason Tom was done with NE and Bill. We may never know the truth.
Devito is an undrafted third string QB. Anything they get from him is a plus. Your QB is a first rounder from an elite college and played worse than Devito
At this rate he probably won’t even get it. And he’s going to absolutely tank his career % in the process. As well as making his w/l record without Brady even worse than it already is. He’s killing his legacy at this point.
I love how these clowns were adamant BB deserved the respect of finishing the season and now its fire him. I've been on the firing this petty fraud since he literally threw away the Eagles Superbowl. Then and there, he should have been ended
I have posted this same thing many times and the BB fan club alway tell me I am an idiot. They stick up for Bill and will go on and on about how great Bill is. It’s as if facts means nothing.
I get why people say that, but it really is unfair to what Bill has achieved. Tom Brady was not responsible for the Pats winning Super Bowl 53, nor did Brady make that game-winning interception in Super Bowl 49. Brady isn’t the one who made the decision to play for a field goal at the end of Super Bowl 39, despite John Madden saying that they should have taken a knee for overtime. Belichik was a great coach who, like any other coach, needs great players to execute his game plan. His time has come, but we should not diminish what he was for the first 20 years of his Patriots career. Also, what was his record without Brady when Brady was injured or suspended? It’s a winning record, as he still had great players elsewhere.
@@JohnDoe-gk7okPatriots don’t sniff the playoffs or Afc championship in 2018 without Brady. Tom went into arrowhead for the afc championship game and hung up 37 and won a shootout vs mvp mahomes. Bill’s defense gave up 31. In Super Bowl 49 Brady had 328 yards and 4 tds against a top 3 defense ever and the greatest secondary ever. What the fuck are you even saying? Is this Belichick’s burner account or something? Explain why Bill has been an objectively terrible hc before and after he had Brady.
This is a vacuous argument. Bill Walsh has a losing record without Montana. Andy Reid in the playoffs in the 18 seasons before Mahomes, 11-13, and in the playoffs in the 5 seasons with Mahomes, 11-3. Amazing. Coaches will have more success with better talent. Carry out the logic that you need to discount the success coaches have when they are linked to one QB, then George Seifert is a better coach than Bill Walsh.
I was always a Tom was more valuable and deserved more credit than Bill guy when Brady left in 2020. But I never thought Belichick would look this incompetent and this bad of a train wreck without Tom. This has genuinely maybe been the worst coached team in the league since Brady’s departure.
BB is a glorified Rex Ryan type who lucked out with Brady. BB is a great defensive coordinator, so so/overrated HC, and one of the woest GMs in the NFL
Theres no reason to fire Belichick right now because nothing is going to change this season. No midseason change is going to improve anything. See it out, see what pick you have and clean house accordingly.
@@carlostosado8965you’re out of your mind if you think a team is giving up a first for a 73 year old belichick who is a proven loser without Brady. Especially considering everyone knows pats are moving on from him regardless. Why would a team ever give up a pick when they know he isn’t getting brought back.
This is a team gm bill and coach bill built and now running into the ground ! Anyone else would be fired by now, not just him clearly other coaches are to blame as well,they need to clean house
This is a philosophy and talent issue. The game has passed Bill by especially on the offensive side of the ball. Also far too many yes men on his coaching staff. He has shown an absolute apathy for the offense for a number of years including when Tom was here and I don't think he realised how much you needed talent because Tom covered all warts for him until he wasn't prepared to do it any longer. At the same time he should look at the '07 season and realise what happens when you actually have super stars on the roster. Lets also not forget he tried to trade Gronk with no TE plan in place, got rid of TB with no QB plan in place. His arrogance is his downfall
Pats stuck at #3 for 2024 draft...it appears weel need some help to leapfrogg over Arizona, Carolina....weel also need as high a draft position as possible..👋🤣👍for when the MUCH NEEDED coaching change commences..1/8/24?..perhaps?....sidenote:::::watch for immediate drop in fan attendance....(hopefully.🤞)..from here on in...........cant wait for jan,8..2024...and beyond!!...
This is one of the least talented teams in the league, and arguably one of the worst Patriots teams in my lifetime and I’m old enough to remember Dicky Mac and Ron Erhardt!
If the whole analogy of "Bill wants to shop for the groceries", they are down to cooking meals with bruised and rotting vegetables. Belichick is a joke and he's been exposed as the bully Tom Brady showed him to be back when he left. I'm only watching the Pats with certain glee as everything explodes in Belichick's arrogant face.
This is a really interesting show. My favorite on Weei. We have to stop with the false tanking agenda. No NFL team wants to tank. Those players are not going to purposely play bad, lose their careers, and lose money just so the team can get a good draft pick. NFL players play their best every play. This is a trollish, sarcastic, cynical, lame nihilism talking point that sounds funny and cool to people with no integrity. Unfortunately the sports media is full of these kind of people. It’s easier for these fake people to make sarcastic jokes than admit they’re disappointed with the season. It’s ok to be disappointed, feel sad, hurt, angry etc.
Boston media acts so entitled.. bb doesn’t g af about what yall think he should tell u about starters lol.. you all do not speak for all fans of the patriots either
Bill is not up to the times anymore. Present day football you HAVE to be able to score the ball. You cant win the superbowl scoring 14 points anymore. We need an offensive first coach. Bill has to go out in the sun and retire before fans begin to resent him. He is making a joke out of Pats nation
Bills being a dick, he’s still hurt he lost the Brady Jimmy G controversy. No way you make this many mistakes since Brady left. once he brought in Glam Newton that was the signal Bill flipped.
Act like what? Both QBs stink. What difference does it make naming a starter? Bill needs a QB, end of story. Every coach does. Let him draft one top two, and boom 💥 the Patriots are back! This isn't complicated.
That is because you were not Patriots fan until they won super bowls just like these clowns. I have been Pats fan since 1984 and when Patriots would go 1 and 15. The Patriots are not even close to 1 and 15 team led by Skip Zolak and Marc Wilson.
@@APTTMH_3you don’t have to hit on all draft picks, but what you miss on you should be making up for in free agency which he hasn’t done well with either. As for coaches coach, they also need to manage their entire team and get all of them to be willing to listen and follow them. On the offensive side, which he is JUST as responsible for coaching as defense and special teams because he is the head coach, those players to me haven’t trusted him since the mess of last year and the decisions he made and has been making, and it’s clear he doesn’t trust any of the QB’s HE brought in either. I’m old school. I’m someone who believes, if you signed a 5-year deal to turn things around for the team I’m hiring you to coach, you should get at least 3-4 to show improvement and have the chance to lock in your system and get all your guys in place. The league clearly no longer follows that former unwritten rule, but that’s neither here nor there. Since Brady has left and he started (what was immediately to me) a new rebuild, he’s had 4 and instead of getting better thru a rebuild and showing promise, it’s got bad in year 3, and worse in year 4. That, to me, is why he should be fired.
Total outsider Irish 48 live in Ireland following NFL since 1985, Bill,s arrogance will in the end force the Pats to do something Mr Craft was lets say unsure about letting TB12 walk out the door ( NAH, MJ, MESSI, TIGER ,BABE, ) we don't need you bye, Since then Bill as supposedly the greatest ever manager has been below 500 every season the team is worse 100 men in and out of the building defense is garbage offense is trash the Giants game one of the worse games i have ever seen TWO COWBOYS AT QB, And he is the greatest ever now i am seeing PATS fans talking about tanking as if thats what the greatest do , BIll is been exposed he is not a nice man a does not create a nice atmosphere TB12 is the greatest team player ever in the NFL , Bill is a grumpy empowered 71 year old man he could find Joe Montana next and it will still be a train wreck
Every week it continues to amaze me how much Brady was able to accomplish with the complete incompetence of this coaching staff. Starting at the top with Bill.
I feel that Belichick, since he was forced to trade Jimmy G in 2017, has gone out of his way to Sabotage the team!!!
Bill really thought that all these years he stole these veterans or mid level free agents that no other GMs signed because he is a "genius" and saw something in them that nobody else recognized and his EGO has him still thinking that was all him being great at finding hidden gems. I think he is the only person that thinks of himself in that light anymore. It is now glaringly obvious that Tom Brady's greatness of being able to win no matter what roster Bill put together was what was happening all those years. Any shortcomings or misses or busts that Bill had aquired as a GM were not so evident and noticeable because Brady had you winning no matter what, through pretty much any poor GM moves. 💯🤷 In Brady's last couple years with us he was older and no longer able to overcome and succeed and elevate the team to produce and win through Bill's poor and cheap way of building a roster. He still uses this method through this very day but there is one huge problem, you don't have the greatest player of all time anymore. Continuing to use the the same roster building approach and method through Cam Newton and Mac Jones being his quarterbacks has exposed it. 10 years ago if you put Brady in the exact same roster that they are 2-9 with now Brady would have this same team winning at least 10 games and going to the playoffs! He dealt with the same bullshit Bill is having this young QB endure for almost 20 years and it was barely ever even pointed out because Brady always won. It's now very clear to me at least that Bill owes the biggest bulk of his success as New Englands coach to the GOAT the one and only Tom Brady. Bill will never give anyone more credit than himself for his career. Not to mention he was under Bill Parcels and he was the defensive coordinator with maybe the GOAT on defense in Lawrence Taylor so Bill should show alot more appreciation and admiration to just those 2 guys alone. Just my observation and opinion lol
Yes! To all of that! Very sad that Brady could not retire with the Pat's. Both Bill and Brady could have retired together last year. Bill doesn't have that much class. He has ego as you said. Bill is a bum.
I wonder how many SB Tom could have really won if Bill was not always building the team on the cheap. He let Manning, a very average QB beat them twice and a back up QB beat them while their season starter Malcom sit on the bench for god only knows why.
@@mtadams2009 fa sho!!! The benching of Malcolm Butler in the super bowl was one of the most ignorant and stubborn game time decisions ever if not the worst💯 Butler was there WR1 cover corner all year and had an outstanding season and played more snaps on the field then any other player that year. Dude was zoomed in on during the anthem with tears running down his face it was and still is a completely baffling decision to which Bill of course gave no explanation for. If I'm Brady and other top players I'd be pissed at him for that one you can't swallow your pride and ego for one game, which is the super bowl to put your best product on the field is crazy and it literally cost them a super bowl that was the difference in a game where Brady throws for over 500 yards trying to overcome the Pats horrid pass defense and even that wasn't enough! 💯 Everyone on the team gave all they could to win that game except Bill he could've put the best corner on the team out there with a little bit of pride swallowing but nope that ego was first before his whole team and sorry but that's selfish and actually sadd tbh
@@MikeMack1986Someone knows the whole story but for some reason it’s never been told. I have heard Tom never forgave him and it was part of the reason Tom was done with NE and Bill. We may never know the truth.
Wrong title: the team that bill built. Under .500 without the GOAT.
Almost sounds like going back to the future…1990. Rod Rust call your office.
Soooo.... sadly true
Devito is an undrafted third string QB. Anything they get from him is a plus. Your QB is a first rounder from an elite college and played worse than Devito
BB desperately hanging on for to go for the all time wins record is just hilarious
At this rate he probably won’t even get it. And he’s going to absolutely tank his career % in the process. As well as making his w/l record without Brady even worse than it already is. He’s killing his legacy at this point.
He’s 4 away from all time losses too
I love how these clowns were adamant BB deserved the respect of finishing the season and now its fire him.
I've been on the firing this petty fraud since he literally threw away the Eagles Superbowl. Then and there, he should have been ended
they dance around all the time, its insane
They are all about the show. Be entertaining...being factual is secondary. They openly admit this
I laughed through this whole video 😂
Why?
@dmcmac9619 because they are hilarious! Relax I'm a Pats fan.
6 weeks until the rebuild starts. Can't come soon enough
He had 20 years of Tom Brady, look at Bill’s record prior to Brady and after Brady. He has a loosing record
I have posted this same thing many times and the BB fan club alway tell me I am an idiot. They stick up for Bill and will go on and on about how great Bill is. It’s as if facts means nothing.
I get why people say that, but it really is unfair to what Bill has achieved. Tom Brady was not responsible for the Pats winning Super Bowl 53, nor did Brady make that game-winning interception in Super Bowl 49. Brady isn’t the one who made the decision to play for a field goal at the end of Super Bowl 39, despite John Madden saying that they should have taken a knee for overtime. Belichik was a great coach who, like any other coach, needs great players to execute his game plan. His time has come, but we should not diminish what he was for the first 20 years of his Patriots career.
Also, what was his record without Brady when Brady was injured or suspended? It’s a winning record, as he still had great players elsewhere.
@@mtadams2009I agree 1000000%
@@JohnDoe-gk7okPatriots don’t sniff the playoffs or Afc championship in 2018 without Brady. Tom went into arrowhead for the afc championship game and hung up 37 and won a shootout vs mvp mahomes. Bill’s defense gave up 31. In Super Bowl 49 Brady had 328 yards and 4 tds against a top 3 defense ever and the greatest secondary ever. What the fuck are you even saying? Is this Belichick’s burner account or something? Explain why Bill has been an objectively terrible hc before and after he had Brady.
This is a vacuous argument.
Bill Walsh has a losing record without Montana. Andy Reid in the playoffs in the 18 seasons before Mahomes, 11-13, and in the playoffs in the 5 seasons with Mahomes, 11-3.
Amazing. Coaches will have more success with better talent. Carry out the logic that you need to discount the success coaches have when they are linked to one QB, then George Seifert is a better coach than Bill Walsh.
I was always a Tom was more valuable and deserved more credit than Bill guy when Brady left in 2020. But I never thought Belichick would look this incompetent and this bad of a train wreck without Tom. This has genuinely maybe been the worst coached team in the league since Brady’s departure.
BB is a glorified Rex Ryan type who lucked out with Brady. BB is a great defensive coordinator, so so/overrated HC, and one of the woest GMs in the NFL
Theres no reason to fire Belichick right now because nothing is going to change this season. No midseason change is going to improve anything.
See it out, see what pick you have and clean house accordingly.
No, trade bill to a team he wants to go to and get a 1st RD pick
@@carlostosado8965you’re out of your mind if you think a team is giving up a first for a 73 year old belichick who is a proven loser without Brady. Especially considering everyone knows pats are moving on from him regardless. Why would a team ever give up a pick when they know he isn’t getting brought back.
Bill and Brady should have stayed together until Brady was 45. Then both of them retire on a high note. Bill doesn't have that kind of class.
This is a team gm bill and coach bill built and now running into the ground ! Anyone else would be fired by now, not just him clearly other coaches are to blame as well,they need to clean house
This is a philosophy and talent issue. The game has passed Bill by especially on the offensive side of the ball. Also far too many yes men on his coaching staff. He has shown an absolute apathy for the offense for a number of years including when Tom was here and I don't think he realised how much you needed talent because Tom covered all warts for him until he wasn't prepared to do it any longer. At the same time he should look at the '07 season and realise what happens when you actually have super stars on the roster. Lets also not forget he tried to trade Gronk with no TE plan in place, got rid of TB with no QB plan in place. His arrogance is his downfall
That’s not the Giants backup that’s the Giants 3rd Stringer who likely won’t be in the league next year. Lmfao.
Pats stuck at #3 for 2024 draft...it appears weel need some help to leapfrogg over Arizona, Carolina....weel also need as high a draft position as possible..👋🤣👍for when the MUCH NEEDED coaching change commences..1/8/24?..perhaps?....sidenote:::::watch for immediate drop in fan attendance....(hopefully.🤞)..from here on in...........cant wait for jan,8..2024...and beyond!!...
Steve Grogan's not going to walk through the door. Stuck with The Mac & Bailey Show.
This is one of the least talented teams in the league, and arguably one of the worst Patriots teams in my lifetime and I’m old enough to remember Dicky Mac and Ron Erhardt!
I remember Lou Saban who lasted 1-1/2 years. I’ve seen them all and this year is ugly,really ugly
@@rowdyrx6109 Fairbanks is about as far back as I remember in the late 70s! Born in 72!
This is Bill's team.
Mac is just horrible. No more excuses
If the whole analogy of "Bill wants to shop for the groceries", they are down to cooking meals with bruised and rotting vegetables. Belichick is a joke and he's been exposed as the bully Tom Brady showed him to be back when he left. I'm only watching the Pats with certain glee as everything explodes in Belichick's arrogant face.
D.B. Cooper for Head Coach!
Bill is still one of the best coaches in the league , but this reality check is well overdue.
There is absolutely no evidence to support Bill has been or is one of the best coaches in the league without Brady as his qb.
First 10 positions -- fumble, punt, punt, punt, punt, INT, punt, punt, punt, INT
possessions?
This is a really interesting show. My favorite on Weei. We have to stop with the false tanking agenda. No NFL team wants to tank. Those players are not going to purposely play bad, lose their careers, and lose money just so the team can get a good draft pick. NFL players play their best every play. This is a trollish, sarcastic, cynical, lame nihilism talking point that sounds funny and cool to people with no integrity. Unfortunately the sports media is full of these kind of people. It’s easier for these fake people to make sarcastic jokes than admit they’re disappointed with the season. It’s ok to be disappointed, feel sad, hurt, angry etc.
Fire mazz
Bill still playing chess
with himself
Please no more Mac.....
I knew Felger didn't watch the games. He's been too slow on the uptake.
7:53 😂😂😂😂😂
Scary thing is that they might beat the Chargers this week.....
Yeah only if Zappe practices and plays for the correct amount of time.
Who's Tommy DeVito?
Look it up on the internet. Easy.
Boston media acts so entitled.. bb doesn’t g af about what yall think he should tell u about starters lol.. you all do not speak for all fans of the patriots either
The Toilet Bowl. Smh
Bill is not up to the times anymore. Present day football you HAVE to be able to score the ball. You cant win the superbowl scoring 14 points anymore. We need an offensive first coach. Bill has to go out in the sun and retire before fans begin to resent him. He is making a joke out of Pats nation
Bills being a dick, he’s still hurt he lost the Brady Jimmy G controversy. No way you make this many mistakes since Brady left. once he brought in Glam Newton that was the signal Bill flipped.
Brady was the only reason they won😅😅
Act like what? Both QBs stink. What difference does it make naming a starter?
Bill needs a QB, end of story. Every coach does. Let him draft one top two, and boom 💥 the Patriots are back!
This isn't complicated.
If the pats get 1st overall no way bill leaves
US sport sets the tone for the very worst of UK sport - through American ownership - and the clown show is ON.
That is because you were not Patriots fan until they won super bowls just like these clowns. I have been Pats fan since 1984 and when Patriots would go 1 and 15. The Patriots are not even close to 1 and 15 team led by Skip Zolak and Marc Wilson.
All for views. I absolutely hate sports media today. Like Bill is suiting up and taking sacks/ints. COACHES COACH AND PLAYERS PLAY. 🤡
He hired the players!!!!
Belichick DRAFTED and signed the players on the team.
@carlostosado8965 so he's the only gm that's not allowed to draft bad players. He needs to hit on every single pick huh? Yall sound mad.
@basdfef4775 reaching like a mofo but ok.
@@APTTMH_3you don’t have to hit on all draft picks, but what you miss on you should be making up for in free agency which he hasn’t done well with either.
As for coaches coach, they also need to manage their entire team and get all of them to be willing to listen and follow them. On the offensive side, which he is JUST as responsible for coaching as defense and special teams because he is the head coach, those players to me haven’t trusted him since the mess of last year and the decisions he made and has been making, and it’s clear he doesn’t trust any of the QB’s HE brought in either.
I’m old school. I’m someone who believes, if you signed a 5-year deal to turn things around for the team I’m hiring you to coach, you should get at least 3-4 to show improvement and have the chance to lock in your system and get all your guys in place. The league clearly no longer follows that former unwritten rule, but that’s neither here nor there. Since Brady has left and he started (what was immediately to me) a new rebuild, he’s had 4 and instead of getting better thru a rebuild and showing promise, it’s got bad in year 3, and worse in year 4. That, to me, is why he should be fired.
How do you have a prime time show and not watch the games??? Oy vey. Embarrassing
Wife...kids. Many guys don’t watch em all.
@@knowsmebyname I have a wife and kids too. But if I was getting paid a fortune to cover sports, you have to watch the 17 Pats games.
A valid opinion. I disagree but you are not wrong. Just a different way of looking at it.
Total outsider Irish 48 live in Ireland following NFL since 1985, Bill,s arrogance will in the end force the Pats to do something Mr Craft was lets say unsure about letting TB12 walk out the door ( NAH, MJ, MESSI, TIGER ,BABE, ) we don't need you bye, Since then Bill as supposedly the greatest ever manager has been below 500 every season the team is worse 100 men in and out of the building defense is garbage offense is trash the Giants game one of the worse games i have ever seen TWO COWBOYS AT QB, And he is the greatest ever now i am seeing PATS fans talking about tanking as if thats what the greatest do , BIll is been exposed he is not a nice man a does not create a nice atmosphere TB12 is the greatest team player ever in the NFL , Bill is a grumpy empowered 71 year old man he could find Joe Montana next and it will still be a train wreck
Who’s NAH?