Nice review. This is the only home console version of Baby Pac and it’s just like playing the coin-op. I’ve played the coin-op at the Morristown Game Vault arcade in Morristown NJ as well as Ground Kontrol in Portland. The coin-op itself is kinda rare. The first couple of times I came across one, it didn’t work. The one in NJ was in excellent shape and always working when I would visit. I agree with your 5/5 pro-lines. This is an amazing accomplishment. Hats off to Bob D., and team.
Great review! I’m happy to see it so well received. I bought a copy a while back but haven’t gotten around to playing it (it’s a common theme with me and my games). It’s super cool of Bob to have made the roms of his games available for free. Thanks for including shots of the actual arcade game. I wasn’t familiar with the arcade game, and now I have a much better idea of the experience that the 7800 port is aiming for.
It's definitely one to pull out and try! And I thought it was important to show the arcade machine for that very reason so I'm glad it helped you in understanding and appreciating what Bob did!
This port is just incredible and I’ve played it quite a bit. Good stuff. The synergy between both halves of the game makes for such a rewarding experience. I like how it’s more about milking the stage than even the other Pacs.
What I can say is I look forward to trying it! It was one of the 3, or 4 games I bought at the last chance sale that I HAVEN'T received yet. Heck I haven't even got a response from them in months and I dont bother them much at all. At least I deserve a update. Not great customer service. But, I'll wait it out because I really want my games.
This is just ridiculous. You'll get it I know you will, Albert isn't a con artist. But making you all wait this long is nearly just as bad. I wish he could've discovered a way to get these done in a timely manner...
Thanks John for this review of this Baby pac man, and also thanks to inform us about the free roms given away by BoB Decresenzo , I download all of them, the cornering of all of his PacMan games are amazing, he's a great game programmer
Nice vid! I like pac man and pinball and remember playing this in the arcade and never being that into it. Liked seeing the 7800 interpretation but wow 5/5 you must have really enjoyed it.
I remember seeing a cab originally at a Carmike Cinemas in Albany GA as a kid. I'm very appreciative there's a more manageable version of the ghosts, in addition to the original.
I played the arcade recently at one of our local arcades they had for a little while (assuming the machine is working because they do tend to have some problems in the pinball portion). Tell the truth they gave me a bloody nose right off the bat because it’s a tough game, but I found myself saying “please, sir may I have another?” and kept playing!
You're right that the arcade ghost behavior is just super nasty. This sort of leads to Baby Pac-Man's biggest problem as an arcade game: Any given arcade usually has both a better Pac-Man option and better pinball option.
Wow I'm really impressed how the video portion looks so accurate to the arcade game. I think it's weird they added an option to change the ghost behaviour... one of the most defining features (besides the pinball part of course) of the arcade game is how bizarre the ghosts move compared to other Pac-man games. They behave erratically in a way very similar to the ghosts in the Apple II game Gobbler that got Sierra sued... I've always felt this was possibly intentional since the lawsuit means Midway was very focused on Gobbler, and especially since this is the first Pac-man game to have a green ghost (which was also in Gobbler due to the Apple II's color palette). After the lawsuit, Sierra had to change the game into Jawbreaker. Maybe I'm reaching here, but it's my head-canon.
It is on mame and it works ok. My comment on it not even being emulated on mame correctly had more to do with the fact that they can only recreate the pinball aspect because the true one is a mechanical pinball game.
@@TheAtariNetwork oh wow didn’t even know they had it Hopefully I can find it and yeah the feeling of playing the actual pinball machine cannot be matched by any emulation.
This is a great homebrew, and the ghost AI mimics the ruthless arcade version. It's a pity many (all?) of the AtariAge homebrew carts don't work on the new 2600+.
Man, I gotta start looking for 7800 home brews...this one looks great! I've been wanting to maybe do my own, but watched a video on Atari programming, and was immediately discouraged as it is very difficult compared with something easy like writing on C+ The other thing I have no clue about is how to transfer the data onto an actual physical chip to stick in a rom cartridge, so you can actually use it in a real console and not an emulator.
Somebody developed 7800basic to make programming easier on the console. Check it out there's a dedicated thread and whole programming forum over at AtariAge!
Nice review. This is the only home console version of Baby Pac and it’s just like playing the coin-op. I’ve played the coin-op at the Morristown Game Vault arcade in Morristown NJ as
well as Ground Kontrol in Portland. The coin-op itself is kinda rare. The first couple of times I came across one, it didn’t work. The one in NJ was in excellent shape and always working when I would visit. I agree with your 5/5 pro-lines. This is an amazing accomplishment. Hats off to Bob D., and team.
Great review! I’m happy to see it so well received. I bought a copy a while back but haven’t gotten around to playing it (it’s a common theme with me and my games). It’s super cool of Bob to have made the roms of his games available for free.
Thanks for including shots of the actual arcade game. I wasn’t familiar with the arcade game, and now I have a much better idea of the experience that the 7800 port is aiming for.
It's definitely one to pull out and try! And I thought it was important to show the arcade machine for that very reason so I'm glad it helped you in understanding and appreciating what Bob did!
This is easily my favorite 7800 homebrew that isn’t named Rikki and Vikki.
I've never agreed with anything as much as I do with this comment
Rikki & Vikki... the reason I bought a 7800! (Food Fight would be a close second reason ;o)
I can’t believe this exists
This port is just incredible and I’ve played it quite a bit. Good stuff. The synergy between both halves of the game makes for such a rewarding experience. I like how it’s more about milking the stage than even the other Pacs.
Fwiw you can exploit the AI and get the ghosts to file into the warp tunnel by hiding near it. It’s key to getting great scores on this.
Good advice thanks for sharing it!
What I can say is I look forward to trying it! It was one of the 3, or 4 games I bought at the last chance sale that I HAVEN'T received yet. Heck I haven't even got a response from them in months and I dont bother them much at all. At least I deserve a update. Not great customer service. But, I'll wait it out because I really want my games.
This is just ridiculous. You'll get it I know you will, Albert isn't a con artist. But making you all wait this long is nearly just as bad. I wish he could've discovered a way to get these done in a timely manner...
Does anyone fondly remember playing this game in arcades?
We were happy to finally get Ms. PacMan, So much better than PacMan for the 2600
I remember playing it only one time, back in the day. I have not seen it at any of the Retro arcade events
@@Jolt7800 A local pinball place in RI has one but it hasn't worked in years. They're not easy to work on due to the 50-50 arcade/pinball setup.
Thanks John for this review of this Baby pac man, and also thanks to inform us about the free roms given away by BoB Decresenzo , I download all of them, the cornering of all of his PacMan games are amazing, he's a great game programmer
He's one of the best on the 7800 for sure!
My local arcade has a Baby Pac-Man, so I can compare. Thanks for the pinball playing hints. I haven’t figured that portion of the game out yet.
Nice vid! I like pac man and pinball and remember playing this in the arcade and never being that into it. Liked seeing the 7800 interpretation but wow 5/5 you must have really enjoyed it.
It's awesome!
I remember seeing a cab originally at a Carmike Cinemas in Albany GA as a kid. I'm very appreciative there's a more manageable version of the ghosts, in addition to the original.
I played the arcade recently at one of our local arcades they had for a little while (assuming the machine is working because they do tend to have some problems in the pinball portion). Tell the truth they gave me a bloody nose right off the bat because it’s a tough game, but I found myself saying “please, sir may I have another?” and kept playing!
So the brutal difficulty of the 7800 is arcade accurate then? That's good to know!
You're right that the arcade ghost behavior is just super nasty. This sort of leads to Baby Pac-Man's biggest problem as an arcade game: Any given arcade usually has both a better Pac-Man option and better pinball option.
I used to love playing this at the arcade. I found one at a local retro-cade.
Cool! My name is on the big screen! Awesome!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉
Wow I'm really impressed how the video portion looks so accurate to the arcade game. I think it's weird they added an option to change the ghost behaviour... one of the most defining features (besides the pinball part of course) of the arcade game is how bizarre the ghosts move compared to other Pac-man games. They behave erratically in a way very similar to the ghosts in the Apple II game Gobbler that got Sierra sued... I've always felt this was possibly intentional since the lawsuit means Midway was very focused on Gobbler, and especially since this is the first Pac-man game to have a green ghost (which was also in Gobbler due to the Apple II's color palette). After the lawsuit, Sierra had to change the game into Jawbreaker. Maybe I'm reaching here, but it's my head-canon.
wow!!! atari homebrews are blowing my mind!
They're pretty good. Especially on the 7800 in the last years
😮omg this is crazy can’t wait to try it thanks.wish there was a mame home brew to this .
It is on mame and it works ok. My comment on it not even being emulated on mame correctly had more to do with the fact that they can only recreate the pinball aspect because the true one is a mechanical pinball game.
@@TheAtariNetwork oh wow didn’t even know they had it Hopefully I can find it and yeah the feeling of playing the actual pinball machine cannot be matched by any emulation.
This game does really stand out among the many Pac-Man games that you could play on the Atari.
I absolutely agree. And on the 7800 it works. Who would've thought combining pinball and Pacman was a winning formula?
I absolutely agree! Who would've thought combining pinball and Pacman was a winning formula?
Perfect Score ! ! Great Video !
You're giving the video a perfect score?! Omg thank you!
Great video, great game, I have it on my 7800 game drive.
I'm glad you're able to play it on the 7800 GD. It's far too expensive these days...
This is a great homebrew, and the ghost AI mimics the ruthless arcade version. It's a pity many (all?) of the AtariAge homebrew carts don't work on the new 2600+.
They do if you upgrade the firmware. All the gameplay for this video was recorded off of an Atari 2600+
@@TheAtariNetwork That's good to know.
Man, I gotta start looking for 7800 home brews...this one looks great! I've been wanting to maybe do my own, but watched a video on Atari programming, and was immediately discouraged as it is very difficult compared with something easy like writing on C+
The other thing I have no clue about is how to transfer the data onto an actual physical chip to stick in a rom cartridge, so you can actually use it in a real console and not an emulator.
Somebody developed 7800basic to make programming easier on the console. Check it out there's a dedicated thread and whole programming forum over at AtariAge!
@@TheAtariNetwork will totally do, thanks! I just subscribed to the channel! 😁
@@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 I appreciate it and hope you stay entertained with what we try to do around here!
the original game had hard ghost AI
0:22 What about PinMame? Does that game struggle over there too?