Syd Barrett - Feb 1971 BBC Session
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- Опубликовано: 12 фев 2011
- These two tracks (Baby Lemonade and Dominoes) are taken from a live session Syd recorded for Bob Harris' Sounds of the Seventies radio show on 16th February 1971.
Now 40 years old, they are the last coherent recordings Barrett made before slipping off the radar altogether. Dave Gilmour accompanies on bass.
Photos are taken from Michael Watts' Melody Maker interview with Syd of March '71. 
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This is an excellent point. Gilmour made "well sure the money got to him (Syd) alright". Gilmour was a true gentleman and man of extraordinary honor to do this for Syd. He grew up with Syd, went to school with Syd, and, I believe, knew what was going on in Syd's head when he was departing the band. Gilmour did the correct and noble thing to ensure Syd's well being, to allow him to live out his life enjoying financial security, and without worry about money.
Gilmour always struck me as a decent guy.
that's actually a water's quote, not dg....
@@user-qt5eh9wb7g No it isn’t
I'm pretty sure that's why they did Astronime Domine on the Pulse tour - so that Syd would get royalties from the album
Yes, but all his band mates should have done more to help him when he was with them. He was forced to give up his rights to use the pink Floyd songs he had written when he left the band. He was too I'll to make any decisions about his future.
he has such a "kind" sounding voice. gentle, kind and soothing. yet there is of course that unsettling fragility...
Spot on.
He is like the big brother I always wanted
this might be a freakin god damned relic
Oh man I love that, absolute relic, well said.
Wow, he sounds great. He sounds really rested and his voice is clear. Chord changes are precise. Too bad he couldn't keep his interest up.
Yes, I think he lost interest. No real need to project alot of sadness onto the boy.. he done good.
that voice
This record is now 50 years old!
Wow.. wow... WOW! this is freakn great.....
thanks folks.. thanks Syd
Oh my god, these two versions are so great !!!
Thanks Syd !
Hauntingly beautiful!
He was still so great, you would never know that he was about to stop.
A brilliant songwriter. There’s something quirky and magical about his melodies and time signatures.
Syd Barret's Pink Floyd was a different band than the one that produced Dark side of the moon, and I treat them as such.
+Gary Williams Syd Barrett's Pink Floyd is probably the greatest psychedelic rock band ever, Pink Floyd that produced Dark Side Of The Moon is an average, boring and commercial progressive rock band.
lol wtf?
Gary Williams yes. Exactly. Syds band mates weren’t right for him then too. But in any case it ended badly for Syd for a variety of reasons and some was of his own consequences choosing to self medicate with wrong things rather than looking for another kind of help. He was a teenager. Yeah. If only and all that. Life is as sacred as it can be cheap.
Sheriff Lophophora hes a great writer and good guitarist, hes not nearly as technically sound as gilmoure waters was a great writer so idk how you come to that conclusion
@@toyaquiyvoyaya I haven't read such a retarded sentence in quite a while
u have to understand that in those days everybody was fascinated about being "crazy" and have the ultimate freak out experience, without limit and concern. I think he actually conveyed much of the expectations the environment he was in had, about going definitely "out of ur head". And the Floyd remained fascinated as well. Syd was the swinging London true martyr, the perfect case to show the world and to speculate about. I think the Floyd could have remained just a bit more humanly close to him
Crazy to think this was just 2 years before DSOTM
Until the end, Syd Barrett will say to those who want to hear it: "what I want is to continue writing good songs !!"
Please protect this video! As the years go on these clips of Syd will become
More obscure. The big wigs in society don’t like people like Syd
Exactly. Glad there's people out there that know.
This is gorgeous
I didn't think he had any cohesive output this far into history... informative video... educational... dude...
Roger based at least 75% of his career on Syd and became rich. At least he acknowledges it.
he has the fault of make this cliche about syd and floyd fans who see him as "this guy who became crazy and leave the band". Syd work is much impressive and genuine! and much better, isn't for everyone 😊
I love Syd’s work both solo and with the Floyd.
Gotta say though...
Syd sycophants and Roger haters are pretty boring.
Roger’s work post-Syd is highly original and groundbreaking.
Roger didn’t force Syd to take a ton of acid and fry his brain.
Syd was soooo great. Poor man, but at least he found peace after the hassle.
His voice sounds great here. Better than on the solo albums
sure, as it runs too fast
He was awsome and handsome ^^
My favorite versions of these two pieces.
This is from the 1971 Bob Harris show. This combined with the 1970 Peel Session tracks, reveal a lot about Syd’s actual ability to perform, post solo albums. He sounds better on these tapes than he does on many of the Madcap/Barrett outtakes. Terrapin from the Peel Session and Baby Lemonade and Dominos here, are all pretty emotive and crisp run-throughs. His voice on Baby Lemonade is especially present and beautiful. He doesn’t sound like he’s struggling one bit. Biographer Rob Chapman referred to Syd’s “pathological resistance to discipline”. One can only imagine the kind of output he might’ve created with a little more of the focus he reveals on these takes.
@@tarabrightstar - Yeah, I've seen an interview with Twink where he said that. I disagree with Twink's assessment too. I'm definitely not in the "there was nothing wrong with him" camp, at all. There was clearly something wrong with Syd, cognitively-speaking, and which appeared to only worsen over time. Precisely what it was, can only be guessed.
But at the same time, I don't subscribe to apocryphal legend that he would stand on stage and strum one chord, catatonically, for an hour. This story comes from one fall '67 gig and was repeated by Andrew King and a few others, but one must remember that a large part of the Floyd set was comprised of sonic explorations and atonal noise workouts where this kind of stuff was the focus. There's nothing in any of the audio evidence from the '67 bootlegs that he *couldn't* play-- but there is plenty of evidence to suggest that he had a personality disorder which compelled him to be difficult and contrarian, often for its own sake. I tend to believe he sabotaged the infamous '67 tour of the States (evidenced by his appearance on Dick Clark's show doing Apples & Oranges, where to my eyes he appears not so much stoned as he does annoyed with the proceedings and deliberately non-conformist), because he was DONE with the pop music direction he had been pushed into via Norman Smith and EMI.
What is clear, from 1968 - 1972, is that he literally began "treading the backwards path" and in general becoming more and more overshadowed by his demons. Whatever his clinical problem may have been, it eventually began clogging his bandwidth to hold normal conversations, maintain healthy adult relationships and be productive in any real sense. His final, ill-fated demo sessions with Peter Jenner in 1974, reveal a listless, inattentive, passionless shell of his former self. He was only 28, but he sounded on those sessions like a man with the attention span, dexterity and drive of someone 68. That light would only get dimmer and dimmer over the ensuing decades.
Thanks for the well educated response, I concur. Just to add: I think his fondness for Mandrax explains a lot of his catatonic episodes as well. I believe it was June Bolan who found him catatonic one night just before he was to go on stage. Mandrax can have that effect and we know from several accounts, Duggie Fields for instance, that he used that stuff by the bucket load.
@@tarabrightstar - Great point. By all accounts it was Mandrax-- not LSD-- that was his preferred drug of choice. Gilmour has stated that the Madcap sessions were recorded in what he suspected was a Mandrax haze. But neither LSD nor Mandrax account for the steep decline in cognitive abilities that became increasingly evident from '68-72 and almost points to a form of early dementia. Sadly, I guess all we will ever have is speculation and the thought of what might've been.
the best versions of these songs, and also the best photographs of him. nice!
These are my favorite versions of these two songs.
I always was fascinated by this too. That his physical appearance changed so drastically in such little time (these photos in 71 versus the Wish You Were Here session in 75) really convinces me that there was something truly wrong in his mind and that the rumors and speculation about his mental state were sadly true and not overblown at all. Also, I personally know 2 different fellas who had bad experiences with acid and they too put on a ton of weight and deteriorated much like Syd. I used to romanticize Syd’s story, but over the years I see it as just a case of way too much acid on an overly sensitive mind. Haunting stuff.
On one hand LSD gave us great inspiration and great art, on the other hand it robbed us of the same. I will forever be fascinated by this and of this era in particular. It is beautifully human overall
he gained weight because he got ulcers from taking medication. The LCD thing was completely overblown. Everybody but him (at that point) wanted him to be a pop star. He went along with it to appease them but finally had enough
These photos are from 70's from the melody maker interview or Peel session, can't remember which.
Gaining alot of weight in 4 years is 100% unremarkable in my opinion, I've seen people balloon far worse in less than 1 year. Mental illness sucks, so does the cut throat music business and not having much support.
LSD wasn't to blame, it's the easy explanation.
Guy had major signs of being schizophrenic, which heavy drug use or lsd use can exacerbate or influence the onset of. I don't think there is any evidence that LSD on it's own, can permanently put one in a state of psychosis. He had underlying mental issues that progressed.
The engineer for the 1974 recording sessions, which were Syd's last, stated that he still looked like the Syd everyone had known before; still thin and long hair. So the dramatic weight gain and hair loss that we see in the infamous pic of Syd in 1975 happened in a period of 1 year.
love you forever syd.
love his orthogonality
thanx for the great vids
Adoro estas canciones de Syd, Son tan sencillas y a la vez, tan lúcidas, tan poeticas. Un excelente escritor y musico.
❤thanks Syd❤ always
amazing.
The boy looks tired, here. That's ill mental health for you. Then again, fitting in, in a sick world makes us all sick, and this poor guy just didn't fit into our RUBBISH.
Syd was only destructive in the sense that he couldn't or wouldn't conform his art and ultimately his identity to fit the music industry's formula for fame and success. Most of his band mates acknowledge this down the road. Sensitive, intuitive, paranoid; how how many great artists and personalities possess these traits without destroying the expectations of those around them them? SYD 4ever OX
misinformed
@Frankymole OK, he never stopped painting, but he wasn't part anymore of the artistic milieu. Plus, he stopped having social interactions altogether, which isn't exactly what a sane person would do. There is no question that LSD did damage his brain, or damaged an already existing condition.
really good stuff
Fantastic and fascinating.
el mejor ,,el artista de la vida y de la irealidad un genio
wonderful
En verdad era encantador ...impresionante mente guapo...!!
When you leave the genius in lo-fi repose the outcome usually PURE BRILLIANCE. Stripped down from machine making music, the artistry explodes and once we catch our breath he is long gone. Nobody will ever understand the mind of this man
@chev6art I stand corrected. The music and photos he left are timeless, reproducible and very collectible. After 1974, he obviously moved on to other things. I guess it is us, his fans, and some connected to Pink Floyd, who perhaps haven't been able to. As I said in an earlier post, he left us too soon. We hear his music, all the way up to the instrumental boogies of the mid-'70's, yet still want to hear more! He left Floyd too soon and left the scene too soon. That is the tragedy.
great song.
The mysteries of the legend continue. No one has been able to 100% identify whether the bassist is David Gilmore or Jack Monck. Another suggestion is Syd was playing acoustic guitar & bass lines simultaneously, but this is unlikely.
Syd Barrett was not touring "around this time". He made one concert appearance at the Olympia in London on June 6, 1970. He was scheduled to play with Kevin Ayers in Holland on June 30, 1970 but backed out. It's likely David Gilmore is playing bass. None of the engineers at this Bob Harris session remember 100% for sure.
These are so much more together than the album session takes of the same songs
because Gilmour sabotaged him and took the worst takes
@@robitaillecopeland1996 I don't know why Gilmore took over from Jones if his heart was not in it.
Alyssa.. you tell em : 0
I love this version of baby lemonade.. I feel very fortunate that a lot of folks just don't get it..
Dominoes was never one of my favorite songs.... but again, this version? kicks ass (pardon the French)
: )
The photos are (c) Barrie Wentzell. Please add that.
When I hear these rambling unpredictable melodies I'm reminded of the Canterbury scene (if there really was such a thing) and its whimsicality. Were those artists, Caravan, Camel, Egg, Hatfield and the North, etc, heavily influenced by this?
Genial
The master tapes of the 1971 session are lost. We'll have to live with an amateur recording of the broadcast, which was used for this CD.
Really?!! Howw
@@thegaminglegend2150 The BBC recycled and destroyed lots of tapes to reduce costs.
@@Ratelzwatel wow that’s scary I wish they kept it.
Whoever posted that......I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!Never heard it before....and yes.....he could perform his tracks live contrary to the public opinion on his mental state...!!!!!!!!GREAT SYD.....the greatest of'em all!!!!!
Baby Klemonade
Not as high on this version of"Dominos".
excellent ! précieux ! merci beaucoup !
shine on! *
I wonder what wouldve happened if he stayed...
He did, some other universe
jim mulligan 1 year ago "Roger based at least 75% of his career on Syd and became rich. At least he acknowledges it. "
reply: and syd got rich too, David made sure syd's family received all royalties due
@Frankymole He also destroyed his diaries, songs he wrote, and even photos (!) He seemed intent on destroying any legacy he had. I just recently learned that toward the end of his life, when interest in him as a member of Pink Floyd began to increase, he quit going out, afraid somebody would accost him over it? He really abhorred it, seems to me. Guess he didn't count on this from long ago. God rest you, Crazy Diamond!
And who are you? Exactly, no one knows. Leave Syd alone. He's an OUTSTANDING artist. Don't bag on him because you have nothing better to do. Have some respect.
There's no doubt Barret was other-worldly gifted but speaking of respect he was reportedly a bit of a dick who was abusive to his mother telling her to 'fuck off mom' at times & for no good reason. My own mother isn't exactly my favorite person in the world either but I have at least enough respect to have never - and will never - tell her to fuck off.
Doktor McNasty I don’t believe it was malicious. I saw a documentary where one of his friends recalled that he’d say “fuck off mum” and they’d laugh about it. So I feel that it was more of a playful thing.
I was crazy but I was happy then happy and I forgot to be me
Commovente!!!!!
it doesnt reallly sound like the beatles to me sounds dark almost kurt cobain like
the most artistic person ever!!!
two great tracks,his solo work is as good a standard as with pink floyd..just different.
Baby Limonade !!
@Vispateresa3 He never stopped painting.
the posibilty that he was repeatedly spiked by his new crowd of acid munching friends in london.kinda makes you think,i do remember syd,s sister selling a cd of the lucy leave 45 to raise money to pay her bills though.so how gilmour can claim he personally made sure he got all of his royalties is beyond me.unless he actually gave syd the money in person.if so he should of gave it to his sister.cause syd was in such a bad way.also he would only open mail sent to roger barrett,so destroyed most if not all of his mail addressed to syd because it reminded him of his breakdown.but someone somewhere must of known he didnt cash his royalties.ahem dave nice suit oh & a castle too oh & i love the wifes diamond necklace & they shine like crazy diamonds too.
He must have received his royalties because he had £1.7 million to leave to his family when he died.
He's the free'est
I listened to him on loop when I made my feature film Black Biscuit
Would have loved to shown it to him
Interesting.
i know caps look can annoy , b u t WHAT A GREAT GREAT MUSIC
+ivan kovacevic you can write that in caps ANY day :)
Najbolja
i think he was going to the shops
@highdb1 I don't think it was a problem of keeping his interest up...But anyway, I agree with you, he sounds so much better than on some "Barrett" rough takes with his sort of "Mandrax vocals" (no offense) and slower guitar playing, sometimes a bit ragged (like "Dolly Rocker"). It's all quite tight here.He probably had ups and downs in a same day too...Great artist.
I've never seen these pictures of him with short hair, but not yet bald. Quite odd. His story really haunts me...
Fun Facts also not fat yet. İn just two years, he became fat and bald. in Dark side of the moon sessions, syd came to the studio but gilmour and waters couldn't recognize him.
mental illness destroys ones physical appearance unfortunately. his beauty started to fade in his 20s. In the 60s, he was an extremely handsome young man with his beautiful green eyes.
Yeah, I've heard that. Sometimes it's hard to believe...he changed so much in such little time. He was a talented, fascinating fellow.
I always was fascinated by this too. That his physical appearance changed so drastically in such little time really convinces me that there was something truly wrong in his mind and that the rumors and speculation about his mental state were sadly true and not overblown at all. Also, I personally know 2 different fellas who had bad experiences with acid and they too put on a ton of weight and deteriorated much like Syd. I used to romanticize Syd’s story, but over the years I see it as just a case of way too much acid on an overly sensitive mind. Haunting stuff
@siouxie921 If you read "Lost in the Woods", his biography by Julian Palacios, you'll see that in the end he lost interest both in music and in painting. He no longer was able to keep the rhythm or play coherently. No doubt LSD did a huge damage to his brain.
shine on you crazy....
diamond
Peni
@siouxie921 The Peel Sessions are from a year earlier.
HELLO SYD BARRETT DEPUIS LA PLANETE TERRE DUDULL LE 17 AVRIL 017 A BIENTOT !?!
the soft machine boys were very close friends of syds.
And a lot of people like he was crazy for taking LSD, but who wasn't at the time? Syd was doing something a lot of people were already doing. I don't it was just the LSD that took his career.
Syd was Too Much. RIP
Wish you were Here session, I think. Some people who dress up to go on nights out do crazier things, not to mention what they do when they are actually out.
He means that as of 2011, the 1971 recording is 40 years old.
7beers I
Sounds to me like a fully competent musician - all of the contention of whether he could cut it in Floyd is kind of odd to me. When they kicked him out - they weren't exactly PROFICIENT themselves... just sayin - love Floyd - love Syd - I just don't see how he could have been THAT destructive - he seems totally compelling in these performances - but I wasn't there so........
I fully understand that he would freeze up - I'm typing flippantly
Gilmore is a talented musician (technically) and Waters - although not as technically skilled - certainly brought the political edge and non-conformist thinking which made that Pink Floyd Sound great in its own way after Barret wasn't involved anymore.
Syd was literally losing his mind he was probably just sober for a while when he performed this
Pretty good actually...sound kinda rough..playing and singing damn good
@chev6art He destroyed paintings after photographing them. Most beauty is ephemeral.
Pitch sounds a bit fast. Thanks for posting, though.
Here's the thing: Barrett's problem was that he was composing music that was beyond his technical skill. Remember, he hadn't been playing very long at this point. Classical composer Rachmaninoff was the same way. Barrett had these incredibly complex and interesting ideas, but no way to "express" them properly. Another 10 years of practice and performance and he would be an adept among us.
lol no, what the fuck are you talking about?
Why did no one think to video record??
@Equinas Well, as Robyn Hitchcock observed, if you could allegorise musical talent as a tube of toothpaste, most musicians would squeeze out a little here and there as they needed to. But like a little child, Syd Barrett squeezed it all out at once, through a breath-taking 3 year stint of severe creativity and drug use and then it was over. The worst part is, he lived the next 40 years of his life as a mental invalid--a sobering lesson on what mass consumption of LSD can do to a talented man..
baby lemonade its the best song of syd carrera solo, i dont understand why, this song dont became a hit in time released , cause its hypnotic
I agree... I could listen to baby lemonade all day long,without getting bored...
hi Chucky
If it had become a hit, would have destroyed him
Syd was a mess regardless
It's because Minute Maid™ already had rights to "Baby Lemonade."
These are great songs. Lyrics better than half the pop crap ever written.
I believe it was Gilmour who made sure Mr. Barrett got every freaking dime coming to him. That's worth checking, but somebody did, which is true friendship in ANY business, let alone the music side of "showbiz".
yes, almost punk floyd
@AbagOfonions I've noticed that there seems to be a very strange divide between us Barrett fans. I, like you, acknowledge that Barrett simply walked away from music and seemingly lived a very quiet, peaceful life and lived till 60-having made some of the best music I know. In the other camp however there is a tendency to cast Barrett as the tragic hero-a romanticism, so sad, poor "Syd" (they tend to use first name which also annoys me) Why is it so hard to understand, Barrett seemed content.
Where and when were the pics take? I haven't seen them before....
Rockinghorse Winner
Photos taken in March 1971 (just a couple of weeks after this session) as part of a Melody Maker interview. in London (I think).
Wow, these pictures are so well done - I'd say the best series of pics of Barrett I've seen....
Please, please... Baby im not demon like you said ... Claro que no
you take good care too
no offence taken
In that session he also played ''Love Song'', from the ''Barrett'' album.
The complete Peel Sessions plus this three songs are in the live album ''The Radio One Sessions'':
1. "Terrapin" - 3:09
2. "Gigolo Aunt" - 3:42
3. "Baby Lemonade" - 2:34
4. "Effervescing Elephant" - 1:02
5. "Two of a Kind" (Possibly by Richard Wright) - 2:35
6. "Baby Lemonade" - 2:23
7. "Dominoes" - 3:02
8. "Love Song" - 1:27
if syd barrett had stayed i think for example the direction of the floyd would stayed under ground
but i personally also think he syd would of been goth latter in the 70s
for those who say david guilmour made sure the money got to him, i say he didn't had a fuckin' dime.. his mother and sister provided for him .
"According to local newspapers, Barrett left approximately 1.7 million pounds to his two brothers and two sisters." www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/povertystricken-syd-barrett-and-the-17m-inheritance-7299532.html
agreed.. David and Roger didn't start whoring Syd out until they realized there was a market for it. I saw Waters on his Radio Kaos and he dug out the old Arnold Layne videos.. by this time Syd was long gone and money had no value to him.. They only 'remembered' Syd when it meant $$$ for them..
paul A pure bullshit
kha sab i agree completely sir
Lee Robson Yes, when Syd died he left quite a chunk of money.. but that money was earned a year or two before Syd died... David included several of Syds songs on a live album and he gave a portion of the profits to Syd. So I suppose better late then never? but the money didn't do him much good.. As I said- by time the band RE-RECOGNIZED Syd money already had no value to him.. A little research goes a long way folks : )
@siouxie921 He painted, he wrote, then destroyed it. Destroyed many of his own memories and tokens he wrote and drew on, that many of us would have paid money to have. Why? He left us very little to remember him by. Some say he was a handyman around his house, and a gardner. It was easier, I suppose than trippin' in front of thousands of people thoroughly stoked with a guitar strapped around.
What happened to a"O