In all fairness to heroes It's lack of polish was due to Sony holding Sega hostage. Sega originally only wanted it for the GCN and GameCube and built the game around those consoles. But late into development Sony told them to put it on ps2 by it's initial release day or they will do to them what Nintendo did to square when the made ff7 for ps1 forcing them to forgo dev time dedicated to polish to switch to the render ware engine and making sure the game is at the very least playable on ps2.
And this is why GCN heroes is the best port. Special stages were actually possible. I have no clue what crack I was on when I played the ps2 port and was able to comprehend it when I was a kid cuz I was able to get most of the emeralds barring 7
Oh no I have, I just kept the other versions out just to not make it so there's two of the same game in different spots since the icons are nearly identical. I think I briefly mentioned it in the beginning.
I grew up with Sonic Adventure, that & its sequel were the 3D titles. I played them on the Dreamcast, best port. The 1st one had that charm being from the late 90s for some reason.
Only 3 Sonic games in S tier and two are 2d Sonic games and one 3D game in that same tier? Sonic Heroes almost being in F tier? Sonic Adventure and Adventure 2 not in S tier? Sonic Frontiers??? In B tier?? Bro theres way too much wrong with this tier list when theres a lot of great Sonic games listed here in low tiers!
Honestly I don't think I will, at least not soon, I have only played a few of the games so it would be a very short list and don't think I'd have much to say about them.
I'll admit repeating myself does happen on occasion and I don't always hear it when listening back, which results in me repeating myself on occasion, though I usually catch it when listening back so I don't repeat myself on occasion.
Half the ones you didn't play are the best ones. Sonic Rush Adventure? Sonic Battle? The Sonic Advance games? Sonic Colors DS? The Sonic Riders games Hello?
it's not just that the movement is too fast, the problem is that this makes turning less precise. Sonic feels like he's on ice the whole time it's really weird.
Should do a sonic character tier list (basically every character that has caused and/or changed an outcome in at least 1 game) good joke potential everywhere.
Sonic Frontiers is actually the greatest mainline game since Sonic Generations with everything between the two being various levels of mediocrity. crazy enough it does something that was never done before and that's having vocal songs for every major boss fight. sure the OG fight with the purple moon called The End was the worst idea Sega has ever come up with and it's a lot worse than Perfect Dark Gaia on the Xbox 360/PS3 version of Sonic Unleashed where to land the final blow you had to input the homing attack sixty times in a single quick time event. the OG final boss is a bullet hell chore that thankfully is only done on hard mode but if you're persistent and determined enough it rewards you with arguably the best ending theme song in the game One Way Dream by Nathan Sharp (also known as the youtuber NateWantsToBattle) as a mid credits song. but I also agree that even with the Free DLC updates it's overall an A Rank due to the minor issues it has.
You should let the presidents do the Sonic OSTs tier list, also I enjoyed Frontiers, some levels are tough but I managed to beat them, also I beat the pinball game first try. XD
I do agree with some of these rankings however I will say I don't agree with your ranking of sonic forces. The hate behind the game is overhyped and while you do make some very good points on why it's bad I'd say the game was very fun to play. It was my introduction to the sonic franchise. I remember going on RUclips and I saw these cutscenes for sonic forces and I watched all of them. I thought the game was cool and very fun with a good concept. The gameplay was also relatively good as it focuses primarily on speed unlike some of the other sonic games I've played where you have to wait around or carefully plan your next move. I loved playing this game and destroying robots in the blink of an eye and I thought infinite was a cool character but he was wasted. Overall I feel like this game should at least go into mid or bottom of B tier and at most the very bottom of A tier.
The worst thing about Sonic 06 wasn't the glitches that every 3d Sonic has, but it was the fucking loading screens that killed it. The game is legit 70% loading screens/time.
I agree with the low ranking of Infinite, but I think it should be in F tier. I think you forgot to mention that they made you pay 10 dollars or something for the shadow episodes *spoilers below* which didn’t add much to the story besides why Infinite became… the villain. It was literally because Shadow beat him up a little bit and called him a weak loser. Then, the character of Tails got demolished, they somehow brought back Classic Sonic despite the portal to his dimension being closed, if I remember Generations correctly, forever. Your OC can barely be called a character because they had no voice lines and also were just beating up Infinite, somehow. Not to mention they kind of tried to make Infinite like Nazo, except, a whiny brat. And Eggman, how did he get out of the void without any technology at his disposal? Did he just craft from nothingness?
I think Sega Enterprises Sonic games and Sega corp Sonic games would need two separate tier lists. In the grand scheme Sega Enterprises could steamroll sega corp anyday. It's a shame that Sega Enterprises met it's end in 2002. SA3 could've been epic. The beta dilogue from the ending of SA2 would've hinted towards SA3, but it was changed do to Sega Enterprises' imminent collapse so the dialogue was charged. Also, Shadow did die. There's a cut voice line of him screaming as he burns to dust in the atmosphere. It's disturbing and really emphasizes how agonizing his death was. Then Sega corp ruins everything, and has been a poor joke for the past 22 years. They piggyback on Sega Enterprises' works while making it worse. Then they resurrect Shadow and make him as demented as Joe Biden. Fortunately none of the Sega corp games are canon. (Also, Sonic '06 was literally a waste of time. The story amounted to nothing. A disappointing end to a disappointing game.)
@@jeroenboth167 aw, maybe the video is no longer available. Originally Eggman was moreso disappointed that his plans had failed and that next time he'll conquer the world by himself (without relying on anything else such as Chaos or his grandfather's creations.) Overall he was more hostile in his tone. Tails grumply responded: "Fine with me!" With the seemingly impending bankruptcy of Sega Enterprises (they were in a *REALLY* bad financial situation) they figured it was best to change the dialogue to a more bittersweet tone.
I did put in Sonic Generations, the HD version to be specific, just didn't rank the 3ds version separately. I should have reworded the list to indicate there were duplicates though. As for Sonic Advance I just haven't played them, but if I do a Part 2 I'll include them.
S2, S3, and CD should be in B, Heroes in A, SA1 in A, and SA2 in B. SA2 is downgrade in character progression from SA1, had linear stages with the only exception of the first stage, and you're forced to play with a shooting and treasure hunting gameplay when you didn't have to in SA1.
💀💀💀🙏🙏🙏 Nah lil bro S2 and S3 are where the franchise peaked CD I agree should be in B But Heroes in A? Nah bro u trippin harder than Joe with that take Repetitive stages mid soundtrack cringe voice acting and wonky hit detection make that game a C tier slog SA1 and SA2 should be in opposite spots You cry about the linear speed stages but that's for the sake of focus - and really? SA1 didn't have treasure hunting and mechs? You just gonna pretend Knuckles and Gamma weren't in that game?
How is sonic and the secret rings a B tier? The motion controls are very terrible and don’t work properly so you can’t even move and you have to spend like 90% of the game doing unrelated missions vs any actual stages which there are only 7 in the game
Nah sonic adventure 2 emerald stages suck. I legit was spending over an hour on them because I could not damn find the emerald. Sa2 has terrible pacing
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Shout-out to Chaos-X for turning 06 into an actually good game.
Yes thank god
Yeah it always had good ideas, it just needed more than a collective 3 days of development time lol
@@seematahir5970And 2 of those days were begging for more time to cook
Don’t expect me to ever stick with you in among us again after nearly placing Heroes into the F tier
Thank you for the support! I'll see if I can maintain myself in Among Us soon despite the Sonic Heroes ranking.
The presidents dropping a peak tier list out of nowhere
Peak...? They put Secret Rings in B...
@@PlushieMaster Yeah that shit belongs in D😂
@@PlushieMaster its ass
It isn’t peak, Sonic Adventure should be S tier and Frontiers is at least A tier
@@SoulOfCinder-g8i and heroes deserves at least a B
having an f rank instead of an e rank isnt very sonic
As a Sonic fan, I appreciate being dunked on.
The sonic franchise is so iconic and timeless!
In all fairness to heroes
It's lack of polish was due to Sony holding Sega hostage. Sega originally only wanted it for the GCN and GameCube and built the game around those consoles. But late into development Sony told them to put it on ps2 by it's initial release day or they will do to them what Nintendo did to square when the made ff7 for ps1 forcing them to forgo dev time dedicated to polish to switch to the render ware engine and making sure the game is at the very least playable on ps2.
And this is why GCN heroes is the best port. Special stages were actually possible. I have no clue what crack I was on when I played the ps2 port and was able to comprehend it when I was a kid cuz I was able to get most of the emeralds barring 7
@@dragonMaster24921 Xbox is good too. Sure it dips a little more than GCN but it has the fastest loading
@@Z-Mikes00 didn't know that I only got ps2 and emulated GCN. Xbox really was a beast
Kinda sad that you had Shadow the Hedgehog as "didn't play", would have loved seeing the presidents argue over that one
Joe I know you were 70 years old when sonic one came out 😂
Actually, he was 48 at the time.
Bam
1 hour of pure kino
Not having played black knight but played secret rings is criminal
Didn´t expect Obama to be so based with the Adventure games
The fact the person running this channel has never played sonic unleashed, sonic generations, and the og goat sonic colors is wild to me
Oh no I have, I just kept the other versions out just to not make it so there's two of the same game in different spots since the icons are nearly identical. I think I briefly mentioned it in the beginning.
@@uspresdientcentral oh my bad bro
What’s criminal is not playing black knight tbh
I remember getting Sonic R from Circuit City with Sonic 3D Blast for PC. Good times man, good times
I grew up with Sonic Adventure, that & its sequel were the 3D titles. I played them on the Dreamcast, best port. The 1st one had that charm being from the late 90s for some reason.
Wild how the presidents talked about sonic rush without mentioning the goated OST. That alone puts it into A-tier
Only 3 Sonic games in S tier and two are 2d Sonic games and one 3D game in that same tier? Sonic Heroes almost being in F tier? Sonic Adventure and Adventure 2 not in S tier? Sonic Frontiers??? In B tier?? Bro theres way too much wrong with this tier list when theres a lot of great Sonic games listed here in low tiers!
Pretty cool tier list! Would love to see a Kirby tier list, haven’t seen anyone do that before.
Honestly I don't think I will, at least not soon, I have only played a few of the games so it would be a very short list and don't think I'd have much to say about them.
20:31 "But the HD version is strangely the most recent way you can play it, which is pretty strange."
Wow, some script.
I'll admit repeating myself does happen on occasion and I don't always hear it when listening back, which results in me repeating myself on occasion, though I usually catch it when listening back so I don't repeat myself on occasion.
I love the voices for all the presidents. It's hard finding an AI channel with good ones
Half the ones you didn't play are the best ones. Sonic Rush Adventure? Sonic Battle? The Sonic Advance games? Sonic Colors DS? The Sonic Riders games Hello?
I beat Sonic Heroes when I was 6. The only issue I had was switching rails. "It moves too fast." for a Sonic game is a skill issue.
Ps2 port I agree that was a problem on GCN it was gas
it's not just that the movement is too fast, the problem is that this makes turning less precise. Sonic feels like he's on ice the whole time it's really weird.
imagine what you could do to a boomer's mind with this
Should do a sonic character tier list (basically every character that has caused and/or changed an outcome in at least 1 game) good joke potential everywhere.
Sonic Frontiers is actually the greatest mainline game since Sonic Generations with everything between the two being various levels of mediocrity. crazy enough it does something that was never done before and that's having vocal songs for every major boss fight.
sure the OG fight with the purple moon called The End was the worst idea Sega has ever come up with and it's a lot worse than Perfect Dark Gaia on the Xbox 360/PS3 version of Sonic Unleashed where to land the final blow you had to input the homing attack sixty times in a single quick time event.
the OG final boss is a bullet hell chore that thankfully is only done on hard mode but if you're persistent and determined enough it rewards you with arguably the best ending theme song in the game One Way Dream by Nathan Sharp (also known as the youtuber NateWantsToBattle) as a mid credits song.
but I also agree that even with the Free DLC updates it's overall an A Rank due to the minor issues it has.
4:42 oh my slimmy mentioned
This video was really analytical like some teenagers that were really smart and decided to make an essay about their favorite game lol
You should let the presidents do the Sonic OSTs tier list, also I enjoyed Frontiers, some levels are tough but I managed to beat them, also I beat the pinball game first try. XD
That would be a good idea, maybe I will do that at some point.
@@uspresdientcentral Ye. :3
I find it crazy that sonic generations and sonic mania is higher than sonic adventure 2
I lold at oh my slimmy, i was like what did he just say, then Obama called it out 😂
I remember watching these is 2020 and thinking how accurate they sounded. Now, Joe's speech has declined so rapidly they sound like different people.
Was about to pass through this RUclips recommendation,but 1hour is crazy
I enjoyed Sonic Heroes V_V it was my first (and only) sonic game.
Obama's "Chao" pronouncination at 17:34 made me spit out my water😂
@@Boingtastic I don't know how I missed it, but I'm kind of glad I did.
the binging is finished
1 hour tier ranking video hell yeah. the part where biden played sonic school house was hilarious
I definitely agree with obamas take on SA2. It’s alright and all, but I’ll always love the 1st game way more 😭
Sonic Chronicles and Sonic Battle are peak
I do agree with some of these rankings however I will say I don't agree with your ranking of sonic forces. The hate behind the game is overhyped and while you do make some very good points on why it's bad I'd say the game was very fun to play. It was my introduction to the sonic franchise. I remember going on RUclips and I saw these cutscenes for sonic forces and I watched all of them. I thought the game was cool and very fun with a good concept. The gameplay was also relatively good as it focuses primarily on speed unlike some of the other sonic games I've played where you have to wait around or carefully plan your next move. I loved playing this game and destroying robots in the blink of an eye and I thought infinite was a cool character but he was wasted. Overall I feel like this game should at least go into mid or bottom of B tier and at most the very bottom of A tier.
Omg i lold again for obama calling out joes live and learn pronunciation 😂😂
The presidents really did a good job
NOT HAVING PLAYED RUSH ADVENTURE IS CRIMINAL! ITS PEAK 2D SONIC!
I’ve played the original Rush but somehow never played Rush adventure, I should probably start it soon
35:16 had me in tears
That was one of my personal favorite lines in the whole video.
Unleashed and adventure are peak
Where would sonic chronicles the dark brotherhood be placed?
Would love to see a sonic play through with them instead
If they had played Shadow the Hedgehog, they would have agreed is S Tier, you know why
I would love to just be with rouge..I could disappoint her in so many ways
Super Sonic for Forces was free. It was episode Shadow that was extra money
@MrSonicHedgehog Oh yeah, I hadn't played through all of it so I may have misremembered.
Sonic CD in C TIER!?!? It's the first game they came to that was 100% an S tier. It's arguably the best 2D sonic game ever made.
@theatricult and those obstacles would be fine if they were actually well placed throughout the levels.
@theatricult Absolutely, I still enjoyed some levels but I hate Wacky Workbench and Stardust Speedway. The special stages are abysmal too.
How haven’t the President not played Sonic colors.
Not sure, but they'll have it in part 2 when that comes out eventually.
Sonic 3&K's S+
Sonic 2 A+
Sonic 1 A
Sonic CD A-
Sonic 3D Blast C
I love classic Sonic. The video was hilarious.
The worst thing about Sonic 06 wasn't the glitches that every 3d Sonic has, but it was the fucking loading screens that killed it. The game is legit 70% loading screens/time.
I was thinking of adding in a loading screen with no edits for the video but I decided against it, and I'm kind of glad I did.
@@uspresdientcentralyou could’ve had it in the corner to prove a point subtly
@@MustacheDLuffythere's plenty of videos documenting said loading screens lmao
Dude not every 3d sonic game has glitchs
Premy should see this tier list and cry
Metroid
*tunes in*
*see that Sonic 1 and 2 in the same tier list*
*leaves*
I agree with the low ranking of Infinite, but I think it should be in F tier. I think you forgot to mention that they made you pay 10 dollars or something for the shadow episodes
*spoilers below*
which didn’t add much to the story besides why Infinite became… the villain. It was literally because Shadow beat him up a little bit and called him a weak loser. Then, the character of Tails got demolished, they somehow brought back Classic Sonic despite the portal to his dimension being closed, if I remember Generations correctly, forever. Your OC can barely be called a character because they had no voice lines and also were just beating up Infinite, somehow. Not to mention they kind of tried to make Infinite like Nazo, except, a whiny brat. And Eggman, how did he get out of the void without any technology at his disposal? Did he just craft from nothingness?
I think Sega Enterprises Sonic games and Sega corp Sonic games would need two separate tier lists.
In the grand scheme Sega Enterprises could steamroll sega corp anyday.
It's a shame that Sega Enterprises met it's end in 2002. SA3 could've been epic. The beta dilogue from the ending of SA2 would've hinted towards SA3, but it was changed do to Sega Enterprises' imminent collapse so the dialogue was charged.
Also, Shadow did die. There's a cut voice line of him screaming as he burns to dust in the atmosphere. It's disturbing and really emphasizes how agonizing his death was.
Then Sega corp ruins everything, and has been a poor joke for the past 22 years.
They piggyback on Sega Enterprises' works while making it worse. Then they resurrect Shadow and make him as demented as Joe Biden.
Fortunately none of the Sega corp games are canon.
(Also, Sonic '06 was literally a waste of time. The story amounted to nothing. A disappointing end to a disappointing game.)
What exactly is the SA3 teaser in the beta dialogue of SA2 as I can’t find it online?
@@jeroenboth167 aw, maybe the video is no longer available.
Originally Eggman was moreso disappointed that his plans had failed and that next time he'll conquer the world by himself (without relying on anything else such as Chaos or his grandfather's creations.)
Overall he was more hostile in his tone.
Tails grumply responded: "Fine with me!"
With the seemingly impending bankruptcy of Sega Enterprises (they were in a *REALLY* bad financial situation) they figured it was best to change the dialogue to a more bittersweet tone.
AMAZING VIDEO
For the shadow the hedgehog game D tier since its cheaper than acid
i got a hot ass take for you guys i actually enjoyed the pinball levels in sonic heroes the most
How did they not play generations or the advanced trilogy
I did put in Sonic Generations, the HD version to be specific, just didn't rank the 3ds version separately. I should have reworded the list to indicate there were duplicates though. As for Sonic Advance I just haven't played them, but if I do a Part 2 I'll include them.
My ranking:
The game has the boost mechanic: bad
The game doesn't have it: good
Exceptions: Frontiers
great vid!
Can you guys do a dk tier list
Maybe, I'm not the most familiar with those game though.
You should do castlevania next!
presidents should play sonic adventure 2 multiplayer
S2, S3, and CD should be in B, Heroes in A, SA1 in A, and SA2 in B. SA2 is downgrade in character progression from SA1, had linear stages with the only exception of the first stage, and you're forced to play with a shooting and treasure hunting gameplay when you didn't have to in SA1.
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Nah lil bro S2 and S3 are where the franchise peaked CD I agree should be in B
But Heroes in A? Nah bro u trippin harder than Joe with that take
Repetitive stages mid soundtrack cringe voice acting and wonky hit detection make that game a C tier slog
SA1 and SA2 should be in opposite spots
You cry about the linear speed stages but that's for the sake of focus - and really? SA1 didn't have treasure hunting and mechs? You just gonna pretend Knuckles and Gamma weren't in that game?
@neinja66469 If you think S2 and S3 are peak you haven't played anything past 3.
@@redhood7778 I've played everything up to Frontiers kiddo you just can't appreciate the classics
Sonic 4 Episode ll was good, but great tier list
Adventure 1 > Adventure 2 ❤
BRO where is sonic spinball
Heroes at C??
Ye
It doesn't deserve any higher and we all know it 💀🗣
Secret rings in B 😭
Bi-partisan bridge (zone) building!
It's no use it's no use it's no use It's no use it's no use it's no use
Sonic superstar
I should have seen if I could have added that to the list somehow. If I do a part two I will definitely add that on.
MoreSonicgames
Cool
One of these days I'll make another list in the series. Not for a bit though.
Sonic unleashed is a tier
Please make a Mario tier list.
How is sonic and the secret rings a B tier? The motion controls are very terrible and don’t work properly so you can’t even move and you have to spend like 90% of the game doing unrelated missions vs any actual stages which there are only 7 in the game
Sonic Riders???? S+
Where are the sonic riders games
Minus free riders for obvious reasons.
I just haven't played any of them before so I don't have anything to day about them.
Only real ones know where 'oh my slimmy' came from
Gotta make a tier list of sex positions 😂
Something tells me I won't be doing that.
@@uspresdientcentral F
Cool Video.
W video
Do Kingdom Hearts Games
Sonic 2 is literally S
Trump sound like Tobey magurie
Best vid ever
It's no use
Nah sonic 2 S tier
Yeah sonic 1 is the first game. But eeeeeeh kinda bad game. Sonic 2 improved everything
Oh my slimmy lmao
2D Sonic GOAT, all 3D Sonic trash
Wrong
The Adventure games
Unleashed
Generations
Colors
Frontiers
All of them are good if not great and you just can't accept it lil bro
Nah sonic adventure 2 emerald stages suck. I legit was spending over an hour on them because I could not damn find the emerald. Sa2 has terrible pacing
Skill issue
I have biase towards the game it’s just so fantastic in my opinion it warms my heart, and i just can’t let go wanting a adventure three.
Trump / Sonic 2024
ROFL LMAO!
Omg
TRUMP.
HATES.
TAILS!!!!
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