@katbiremanlive I've always seen coins as useless if even in tcgo. If I where to run pokemon TCG live it would be only you earn packs though gameplay, trade- or you buy the physical product and tickets should be the only currency for lader matches. that is prefect game play to me.
I was already using the celebrations method, so this doesnt really affect me. The change was axtually kinda good for me because it changed my useless gold into more packs.
I'm giving the "Don't cry because it's gone, smile because it happened" vibe, as i made like 100k crystals in last week thx to the charizard deck, and they can't take away those crystals from my hands xd
@@Kurohige93 you'll keep getting crystals, so if u managed to get a solid amount like 20-30K, you will probably still be able to craft as many decks as you want,as long as you don't build decks with full alternative arts
@ I didn’t get 20-30k I just started play not so long ago but I got every meta relevant deck atm and have enough for whatever is coming in the next few weeks it’s just that things like this should be left alone, cause if we’re being totally honest ain’t nothing stopping me from spending 2$ on a code for the deck and continue doing what I was doing
As a newer play I didn't make 100k. But I made like more than 10k or so. I thought I would just go back to farming Miraidon ex November 2023(2nd best cost efficient after Shadowrider, or at least it was). But if the limit is for a lifetime than I will have to start buying Celebrations. I haven't bought a single one.😑
@@dark3176 Yeah same here, i have opened a few packs of celebrationd but i'm nowhere close of having 4 copies of each card, so if i eventually run out of crystals, i'll start farming celebrationd i guess
New account creation is actually broken. I tried to get my friend to create an account yesterday, and they couldn't. I confirmed that you can not create a new account. It just tells you the email is invalid or the request failed.
I just struggled to make a new account myself. This is my advice. Create your account from the website rather than inside Live. If things are still not working, use a cell phone rather than a computer. You may even need to turn off wifi & just use mobile date.
as a new player who's had time to buy maybe 2-3 charizard decks to get my first few crystals... WHY? Im already having a hard time keeping up with the people who got 100k dust to craft their cards...now its gonna be even harder. Thank god I built the gholdengo deck i wanted to use before the nerf but god damn... ima just go back to playing mtga I guess.
First of all, great video! I started playing a few months ago and i dont't think its a terrible change, i did not knew about that exploit and even then i can build a meta deck once a month for free, this game is easy to build decks but hard to get the pretty hard, i think is going in the right Direction of monetization if you want the pretty art buy real life packs😅
@s7121n9s keep buying one set with your Crystal's. Then buy the common and uncommon reverses with your credits. get lucky with rares and above im not paying 750 Crystal's and above for one card I'm not going to play. I personally only get silver tempest.
Great video! New player here both to Live and Pokemon TCG in general. I started about two weeks ago and coming from a diffent game (MTGA) and a much more predatory economy I was actually impressed at how much free (and actually playable) stuff we get. I managed to get to the top rank in such short time. Same as the completing the battle pass. As a new player I farmed the Charizard deck as much as I could. I managed to build several meta decks this way, but alas this won't work anymore. Having opened a lot of surging sparks boosters due to the rewards in the battle pass, do you think it could be worth it to try to farm credits this way instead of the celebrations method from scratch?
Good question about Surging Sparks packs. I'll have to look into that idea. I think that the Live economy is becoming more like MTGA. Time will tell to what extent.
I just start to olay this game the past week and I get stuck crafting a deck cuz now I dont have the credits to buy Charizard so i dint know what to buy to earn crystals i feel so bad cuz this game like me so much and a friend of mine told me about this game and now the nerf everything :( any advice for me?
Hi! I started just now. Atm, I farmed to arceus w Chen pao, bought a few celebrations, and it isn't really working too well, but it's enough for something.
I bought the iron leaves ex battle deck for 600 crystals and netted 955 credits. You can do that 4 times for a total of 3820 credits, which certainly isn’t bad but not nearly as much value as the charizard lead battle decks.
@ yeah that’s true. I didn’t even have a full play set for every card, so my first two purchases yielded slightly less credits. What also hurts that iron leaves deck is the lack of an ace spec. The charizard league deck has arguably the best ace spec, which not only gives more credits to those farming, but give newer players an incredibly powerful card that they can easily slide into their starter decks
The letter implies that this may reset. Maybe with every main set, but there are a lot of possible ways they could go. But my guess is that it won't reset for things like decks. But I bought a Shadow Rider Deck so that I can keep an eye on this.
I wish they at least gave us more tiers to the battle pass, like some other games, when you get the final rank in continues but with small amounts of a resource, i eish they did this and gave us something like 5-20 crystals per tier after the final rank of battle pass
I'm a new player only started this week, are the celebration packs my only option, as I dont have any of the cards in them? If I have to play for weeks just to get new cards then the game doesnt seem worth getting into.
I recommend the Charizard deck as starter because gives the trainer cardbase for Hydreigon, Dragapult and else. Then after go for Celebration which is a very good pay off after complete.
At the moment, I am not sure what the best plan is for a new player. I would suggest waiting to spend your Crystals right now. If there is a deck that you want to build, and there is League Battle Deck that helps you get the cards, then buy that. There are 2 big questions about the economy right now. 1 - What is the best approach as things are currently structured. (I'm going to start digging into this.) 2 - What changes will they make to Live in the future. (I think there may be more changes in the next month or so.)
@@uncomonfossilim in a middle of way. I did the hard way, focusing and mastering just one deck and invested the crystals on. I was very rewarded for that. Actually each Celebrations bundle will give me 5/6k credits what is enough to buy trainers base on next sets. Pokemons are very situational
I actually built a Lost Box/hydreigon deck without any of that stuff and got to arceus rank 😂 it's expensive even tho I have the credits. As much as I want to buy something from the shop.....I'm less likely to get them when I see the cost
@@uncomonfossilI'm all for them adding microtransactions if it means we'll finally get a working game, quicker bug fixes and the full expanded format instead of the half baked one we've been stuck with for 3 years.
People are overreacting honestly. They took it out because that's not how they want the game to be played. If you want to have a credit farm then don't complain that you have to put in some work to have that ease of access. And I'm someone who spent the time purchasing the celebrations bundles with the crystal until I eventually started getting a bunch of dust(3800-4200). They want to keep the player playing longer. The amount of free decks, and the amount of crystal given in the battle pass is quite a lot. Y'all never played Master duel cause that economy is trash and it's monetized. Imagine wanting to build a new deck and the fastest way to do so is simply create a new account, cause that is what Master duel is like. Be grateful that Pokemon gives as much as they do because that's the main reason I even play the game.
I got into the game a couple weeks ago. You're completely overreacting - shit's fine. I reached the max level of the battle pass and am raking in currencies. It's perfectly beginner friendly; you get a bunch of meta decks seemingly for free? I built a completely original deck after about 2 days. This new system is much simpler.
If u reached the max level on the battlepass in a couple of weeks, shit's in fact not fine. The thing is that nerfing the currency could be okay if they add some sort os monetization or improvements on the ladder, or even in the in game rewards. But nerfing the economy while doing nothing to improve the game systems, results in players not being able to build as many decks as b4
Are u dumb? U probably weren’t paying attention to anything so you’re just talking out your ass, we had so much freedom for just 600 crystals and now essentially that’s gone if you don’t understand how the changes affected us just STFU and watch videos like this
remember, what they took is the *freedom* of building your own decks - sure you're given much free stuff tht you could bring to play instantly. but they've gone so far as to limit what we can do in this game
lol they made it harder to rob them of credits for sure.
I’ll miss you Charizard box. You were a real one. RIP.
What!? The charizard box nerfed?? That’s bullshit, mate I give up I’m not playing this unless something changes, I want to be able to play new decks
Bro, they nerf battle pass credits and now credit grinding, the Devs are really trying to stop people from building new decks
That charizard nerf got the streets crying RN
😂
So glad I bought the Charizard league battle deck 35 times while i still could
I like the the currency system currency makes it more simple.
Technically, but it's preventing you from getting more cards and building effective decks
@katbiremanlive I've always seen coins as useless if even in tcgo. If I where to run pokemon TCG live it would be only you earn packs though gameplay, trade- or you buy the physical product and tickets should be the only currency for lader matches. that is prefect game play to me.
I was already using the celebrations method, so this doesnt really affect me. The change was axtually kinda good for me because it changed my useless gold into more packs.
I'm giving the "Don't cry because it's gone, smile because it happened" vibe, as i made like 100k crystals in last week thx to the charizard deck, and they can't take away those crystals from my hands xd
I wish I got that many but I definitely got enough crystals to make every meta relevant deck tho so eh
@@Kurohige93 you'll keep getting crystals, so if u managed to get a solid amount like 20-30K, you will probably still be able to craft as many decks as you want,as long as you don't build decks with full alternative arts
@ I didn’t get 20-30k I just started play not so long ago but I got every meta relevant deck atm and have enough for whatever is coming in the next few weeks it’s just that things like this should be left alone, cause if we’re being totally honest ain’t nothing stopping me from spending 2$ on a code for the deck and continue doing what I was doing
As a newer play I didn't make 100k. But I made like more than 10k or so. I thought I would just go back to farming Miraidon ex November 2023(2nd best cost efficient after Shadowrider, or at least it was). But if the limit is for a lifetime than I will have to start buying Celebrations. I haven't bought a single one.😑
@@dark3176 Yeah same here, i have opened a few packs of celebrationd but i'm nowhere close of having 4 copies of each card, so if i eventually run out of crystals, i'll start farming celebrationd i guess
New account creation is actually broken. I tried to get my friend to create an account yesterday, and they couldn't. I confirmed that you can not create a new account. It just tells you the email is invalid or the request failed.
have them make the account via moblie then log in on pc. that bug happened to me as well.
I just struggled to make a new account myself. This is my advice.
Create your account from the website rather than inside Live. If things are still not working, use a cell phone rather than a computer. You may even need to turn off wifi & just use mobile date.
i used a vpn on my phone it worked when i changed it to japan and i started play a few weeks ago so it should still work.
vpnify is what i used if you cant find one its free
I'm hoping they give crystals as battle rewards after ranked reset
This just screams extremely petty
Wait, it’s bad if we took advantage of the charizard one?
It was. But hey, hopefully we all milked it while we could.
I don't think that Pokemon will be doing anything to people that bought the Charizard decks at the reduced price
as a new player who's had time to buy maybe 2-3 charizard decks to get my first few crystals... WHY? Im already having a hard time keeping up with the people who got 100k dust to craft their cards...now its gonna be even harder. Thank god I built the gholdengo deck i wanted to use before the nerf but god damn... ima just go back to playing mtga I guess.
Live economy is now probably similar to MTGA for F2P. Of course MTGA is a refined client that offers lots of formats.
First of all, great video! I started playing a few months ago and i dont't think its a terrible change, i did not knew about that exploit and even then i can build a meta deck once a month for free, this game is easy to build decks but hard to get the pretty hard, i think is going in the right Direction of monetization if you want the pretty art buy real life packs😅
Não precisa comprar boosters. Bastar escanear códigos em vídeos etc
I don't buy the cards since i have nobody to play with. So if imma spend money, imma buy shrouded fables code cards and get my credits that way
@s7121n9s keep buying one set with your Crystal's. Then buy the common and uncommon reverses with your credits. get lucky with rares and above im not paying 750 Crystal's and above for one card I'm not going to play. I personally only get silver tempest.
here i am, only been playing for 3 days and now lost on what to do about crystals and credits.
I'm going to start a new account to figure out how to approach things
That will be very helpful for new player like me. Gonna wait for your update. Thank you very much.
Great video! New player here both to Live and Pokemon TCG in general. I started about two weeks ago and coming from a diffent game (MTGA) and a much more predatory economy I was actually impressed at how much free (and actually playable) stuff we get. I managed to get to the top rank in such short time. Same as the completing the battle pass.
As a new player I farmed the Charizard deck as much as I could. I managed to build several meta decks this way, but alas this won't work anymore.
Having opened a lot of surging sparks boosters due to the rewards in the battle pass, do you think it could be worth it to try to farm credits this way instead of the celebrations method from scratch?
Good question about Surging Sparks packs. I'll have to look into that idea.
I think that the Live economy is becoming more like MTGA. Time will tell to what extent.
I just start to olay this game the past week and I get stuck crafting a deck cuz now I dont have the credits to buy Charizard so i dint know what to buy to earn crystals i feel so bad cuz this game like me so much and a friend of mine told me about this game and now the nerf everything :( any advice for me?
I'm creating a new account so that I can develop a plan for the new economy. I'll have ideas soon.
Hi! I started just now. Atm, I farmed to arceus w Chen pao, bought a few celebrations, and it isn't really working too well, but it's enough for something.
where do we see the ELO ranking?
I believe the ELO system doesn't start until the ranked ladder resets 12/5
I bought the iron leaves ex battle deck for 600 crystals and netted 955 credits. You can do that 4 times for a total of 3820 credits, which certainly isn’t bad but not nearly as much value as the charizard lead battle decks.
Thats if you have all the cards first a new player won't get that much
@ yeah that’s true. I didn’t even have a full play set for every card, so my first two purchases yielded slightly less credits.
What also hurts that iron leaves deck is the lack of an ace spec. The charizard league deck has arguably the best ace spec, which not only gives more credits to those farming, but give newer players an incredibly powerful card that they can easily slide into their starter decks
i didn't even know this was a thing, been playing since last year without doing this lol
Is there a cooldown after buying 4 decks? If yes how long?
The letter implies that this may reset. Maybe with every main set, but there are a lot of possible ways they could go. But my guess is that it won't reset for things like decks.
But I bought a Shadow Rider Deck so that I can keep an eye on this.
I forgot to buy the Charizard deck right before the game updated because I could’ve gotten two and I was heartbroken when I saw the price jumped 😭
I wish they at least gave us more tiers to the battle pass, like some other games, when you get the final rank in continues but with small amounts of a resource, i eish they did this and gave us something like 5-20 crystals per tier after the final rank of battle pass
agree 100%
I'm a new player only started this week, are the celebration packs my only option, as I dont have any of the cards in them? If I have to play for weeks just to get new cards then the game doesnt seem worth getting into.
I recommend the Charizard deck as starter because gives the trainer cardbase for Hydreigon, Dragapult and else. Then after go for Celebration which is a very good pay off after complete.
@@leonardodetoledolorenzetti644 Would you recommend getting the 4 charizard decks for credits or just 1?
At the moment, I am not sure what the best plan is for a new player. I would suggest waiting to spend your Crystals right now. If there is a deck that you want to build, and there is League Battle Deck that helps you get the cards, then buy that.
There are 2 big questions about the economy right now. 1 - What is the best approach as things are currently structured. (I'm going to start digging into this.) 2 - What changes will they make to Live in the future. (I think there may be more changes in the next month or so.)
@@uncomonfossilim in a middle of way. I did the hard way, focusing and mastering just one deck and invested the crystals on. I was very rewarded for that. Actually each Celebrations bundle will give me 5/6k credits what is enough to buy trainers base on next sets. Pokemons are very situational
No one told me to buy the cheap charizard deck 😭😭
I actually built a Lost Box/hydreigon deck without any of that stuff and got to arceus rank 😂 it's expensive even tho I have the credits. As much as I want to buy something from the shop.....I'm less likely to get them when I see the cost
so celebrations is BACK
ooof. so much for charzard being easy way to go. max numbers? OOOF.
Yall dont look at me weird just because i made 150k credits on my account because i farmed the charizard deck like crazy and now im rich
wow. back to buying celebrations packs. if they nerf that i will quit the game
You never know what changes they make in the future...
TCGO was a million times better than TCGL.
And now is when you realize it?
I know! And these changes make it seem like they are going to add microtransactions soon
@@uncomonfossilI'm all for them adding microtransactions if it means we'll finally get a working game, quicker bug fixes and the full expanded format instead of the half baked one we've been stuck with for 3 years.
People are overreacting honestly. They took it out because that's not how they want the game to be played. If you want to have a credit farm then don't complain that you have to put in some work to have that ease of access. And I'm someone who spent the time purchasing the celebrations bundles with the crystal until I eventually started getting a bunch of dust(3800-4200). They want to keep the player playing longer. The amount of free decks, and the amount of crystal given in the battle pass is quite a lot. Y'all never played Master duel cause that economy is trash and it's monetized. Imagine wanting to build a new deck and the fastest way to do so is simply create a new account, cause that is what Master duel is like. Be grateful that Pokemon gives as much as they do because that's the main reason I even play the game.
I got into the game a couple weeks ago. You're completely overreacting - shit's fine. I reached the max level of the battle pass and am raking in currencies. It's perfectly beginner friendly; you get a bunch of meta decks seemingly for free? I built a completely original deck after about 2 days. This new system is much simpler.
If u reached the max level on the battlepass in a couple of weeks, shit's in fact not fine. The thing is that nerfing the currency could be okay if they add some sort os monetization or improvements on the ladder, or even in the in game rewards. But nerfing the economy while doing nothing to improve the game systems, results in players not being able to build as many decks as b4
Ptcg live developer propaganda right here guys
Are u dumb? U probably weren’t paying attention to anything so you’re just talking out your ass, we had so much freedom for just 600 crystals and now essentially that’s gone if you don’t understand how the changes affected us just STFU and watch videos like this
remember, what they took is the *freedom* of building your own decks - sure you're given much free stuff tht you could bring to play instantly. but they've gone so far as to limit what we can do in this game
Lmao this must be a paid actor. 2 days max. Playing 15 Hours or what? 😃