*IMPORTANT CORRECTION: In our review we use a Spektrum AR620, state that it is not a smart rx, and point out that differential thrust should not work with this rx. We had differential thrust anyway. We go on to conclude that differential thrust will be available to protocols other than Spektrum Smart rx's as the differential thrust is a mix handled by the Smart ESC programming. This is not correct. As it turns out the AR620 IS a Smart rx that is only limited in telemetry options compared to other Smart rx's. This explains why we had differential thrust. Horizon was right on with the information they provided. Protocols other than Spektrum with Smart technology will NOT have the differential thrust and reversing options. We are usually very tactical with what we say and how we say it in a review. We want only to provide the best, most accurate, and helpful information we can. We apologize for any confusion. We will be more diligent in our research and try to see to it we don't make this kind of error again. Sorry for any confusion. I would personally like to thank Old Coastie (on RCG, RC Stuff on YT) for correcting us and educating us on what the proper information is. I appreciate you catching this early and sharing with us so we could get the correction out there quickly. It's people like you in our Model AV8R community that make us better. Thanks again! Adam Model AV8R Channel
Thanks for correcting mate ! What a nice review that’s what everybody wants to watch instead of just fly it like a di*k and ripping it unscale without any proper review…thanks a lot buddy for your work 🫡🤩
Very interesting. I seem to remember talk that updating the AR620 and 410 receivers firmware gave them near SMART receiver telemetry but did not expect the differential thrust to work without an onboard mixing board or some radio mixing when not using actual SMART equipment. I'll have to look closer at the dual 40A ESC, sounds like it could be fun. Great flying as always Adam, looking forward to the next review.
Good point on taking the rod off the servo arm. I'm dumb and didn't even consider it. That's why we come here - you always have helpful tips that many people would overlook or not even realize on their own. It looks like yours is a little squirrelly on the ground as the tail begins to gain flight speed but before the rudders are really effective, too.
Thank you Jon. The D18 is a difficult tail dragger to handle on a slow, scale takeoff for sure. The extra rudder throw really helps, and you really have to be on it right from the start. As they say in full scale "Happy Feet" - back and forth the whole time. I use that movement instantly as I'm throttling up, and intuitively you can see the effect the movements are having as the tail wiggles side to side under your control. Essentially you are causing all the movement rather than seeing what it does and responding to it. Its incredibly hard to try and just react to what its doing without getting behind it. I have had worse though. I owned a Fokker DR1 that was a total $hit $how to take off and land without it ending up on its back...Lol.
Nice flying. You're the first reviewer of this plane to actually talk about how to improve the handling, everyone else said it was great right out of the box. I appreciate that. I also really like how you flew the slower more scale like manouvres.
Fantastic review Adam, I haven't watched anybody elses review, it won't be as thorough as yours and that's a fact 🙂 It is a beautiful model that could seriously interest me in the future, cheers 👍
flew mine last Thursday with no differential or stabilization, ran a 3600 Hrb and was slightly nose heavy with the lipo all the way forward, . , due to the nose heavy.Reduced the rudder travel to 80% in dead air. will run a rubber duro tailwheel to stick to the surface as i do on all my warbirds , per your comments also the tiny foam skipped and did not track the ground on a paved surface good very easy and smooth twin . a great scale d-18,will buy a second one for sure to keep a customize
I flew mine with the BNF AR631 receiver, and wasn't crazy about the differential thrust. I'm sure 90%+ will love it, but I didn't. I put in a Lemon Stabilized receiver, and have loved every second of flying this plane with stabilization, but no differential thrust. What an awesome release from E-flite...my favorite so far!
Thanks very much Travis! I love scale flying and I work hard trying to perfect my rudder skills. The part of our review where we get more rudder throw is key. It really helps to have enough deflection/authority to keep it squared away. It is a difficult tail dragger to handle on a slow, scale takeoff.
I love the airprox at 22:59! Kudos for reviewing the PNP: Provides some very valuable information. As always, I love the scale flying, especially adding power on the vertical to imitate momentum - never thought of that before but makes so much sense.
Dang it, Adam; the way you fly this thing makes it very difficult to resist. I returned to the hobby a couple months ago after a 10-12 year layoff - and I’ve acquired 6 aircraft already. The wife is gonna kill me when this one arrives, and it’s all your fault. 🤣
Lol...I'll take the blame. Not sure she'll care though...lol. Welcome back to the hobby Tony! You'll really enjoy the Beech...such a great airplane, and what a looker too!
That was Genius what you did with the tail wheel and rudder linkages Adam, Lowers the rate of the tail wheel and increases the rudder deflection simply brilliant set up that im gonna steal from you
Holy moly! What an excellent review my friend! You and Heidi did an excellent job; you on the stick, and Heidi on the camer tracking that model in very low-light conditions. I'm glad you liked the model in the end, I most certainly like mine! A classic twin at it's best!
Thanks John! I could have done a bit more research I guess, but we pinned a correction for my rx info error. The wind has been blowing lately here so either early or late is the only calm option. Heidi does great thankfully! I love this thing...beautiful!
Even in the best models the smallest adjustments can make the biggest difference! It was a good reminder to everyone to take your time even in something as well built aa one of these. Excellent flying my friend and presentation as always!
@@ModelAV8RChannel I have the Skymaster on the last parts of completion. I have the functional wings working and the extensions I needed came for them. The 20ch receiver is programmed and needs put in. Otherwise I have been working on an xfly setup in my freewing F14 and found it made a massive difference in takeoff authority and weight savings. Otherwise just flying when I feel well enough and doing the Dr thing. Thanks for asking my friend!
Good Job! Some many reviews only say how great it flys rather than pointing out how to solve a problem. A friend crashed his on the first flight in a tip stall. He is a pretty good flyer, but something was wrong!
I really liked your review and the many pointers about what to do and not do. I'm kind of tempted to get one and hold it till I feel more at ease with the skill level you mention. My partner and I had a-45 back in the early 80's. Fun airplane. When we weren't going to regional airshows with it he was hauling freight to help offset cost of ownership if you know what I mean. We did do a paint job on it for our participation with Warbirds of America. It was done in Camo with nose art.
Thanks for a great video. I’ve been an aviation geek my whole life, but am just now going to learn to fly RC. I’ll be learning on a 1.5m Carbon Cub S2, and when I get some experience this Beech will be my next purchase for sure. Absolutely loved watching that thing fly!
Thanks for watching. Welcome to the hobby! We can't all be Kermit Weeks, but it's pretty easy to end up with a hangar full of these! The D18 is such a great airplane, and beautiful. Best of luck in your RC aviation journey.
@@ModelAV8RChannel I do have one additional question, if I could ask. With a smart spektrum radio, with forward programming, can one turn off the differential thrust with a switch? And, if so, is that possible with both the bnf and rtf?
I don't think you can on the D18 with forward programming (you can with the Twimber and EC-1500). You can use the Spektrum programmer to turn it off or adjust it, but you can't assign it to a switch. On the PNP having Forward programming would be determined by weather or not you use a compatible RX. You can adjust the ESC's with the Spektrum programmer no matter the RX.
That was nice to watch. Got mine built but haven’t recovered from retinal surgery enough to fly yet so I’m living vicariously. I will say my rudders were way out of sync out of the box, my right vertical stab wasn’t completely glued in and my right wing outer section quick connector wasn’t glued all the way in. Using a smart esc programming box was how I turned on thrust reverse and I did see an option for differential thrust (set at 15%) I supposed only smart receivers would send other channel information to the esc allowing that mix to happen.
Thanks for watching! Hope you recover quickly. Sorry you had some issues, but it happens sometimes. Glad you got it sorted and man you are going to LOVE the way it flies!
Great video Adam and nice flying. The added rudder throw seems to really help. I was thinking about moving my rod out on the servo end, Honestly i didn't even notice the extra holes on the bell crank end of the hook up... Glad to see you corrected yourself on the AR620. Whole video i was saying yes it is smart.. I use them in everything I fly cause they are Smart. Guess you have missed that in my videos. Also you CAN NOT use forward programming as of right now to change or turn off the Diff. thrust.. You Must have the Spektrum Programmer box. I used mine to enable the Reverse thrust just because I can ha ha. If you decide to do that.. make sure you do both sides of the esc..
Thanks Chris really appreciate it man. It is a great plane. Funny thing is...almost everybody has the BNF and none of that is a concern for them. You are right about the forward programming, but they intend to change that soon according to HH. Also when the 620's first came out they were not Smart...the Smart/SRXL2 was added later. I didn't bother to check on that (never thought to actually), and I have some older ones that are not SMART. I remember when they came out...I was working at the Hobby Shop, and SMART wasn't invented yet. That tech came out later.
Great vid, Adam, thanks! I appreciate your honestly and candor...otherwise I may not like you anymore as easy as you make taildragging look! 😁. I've had this one in my wishlist since it released, this encourages me to transport it to the shopping cart a bit more.
Thanks Adam, great review and beautiful flights with the E-Flight D-18. I am a sucker for the golden age and this is as good as it gets to fit that. I am originally from Wichita and growing up in the 60's you could see these flying on occasion and what a sound.
@@odwatchguy Thanks anyway. We lived on South Main and Tony was Bobby's big brother. Bobby was killed in Nam in 67 and I lost track of Tony. Enjoy the weekend.
Stunning model that Adam and Heidi, and a great review!! It looks stunning in the air!! A very polished review video!! Well done both of you!! And kudos for mentioning your mistake on using the Sub trim 😀👍
Quite an astoundingly gorgeous model... and well flown, of course. It seems impressive on the ground, but up in the air, she's supreme. Nice that E-flite listened to customer feedback. Now all they need do is another Spitfire or Mosquito...
Great review Adam! Really appreciate and enjoy the channel. I have just ordered the Beech 18 from HH. She will be here next week sometime. I'm up near Minneapolis, MN and we have a lot of snow right now. I have been flying most of my planes with floats, and landing on the snow, which has been some great fun. I would really like to install floats on this Beech 18. I have some ideas, but was wondering what your thoughts are on floats for this plane. How would you do it, if you were tasked with installing floats on this plane? I was thinking, dry wall anchors. Using float gear that attaches very similarly to the way the FMS Beaver 2.0m floats attach, (not as big of course). Glue in, and countersink the anchors, then just use the self tapping screws that the anchors come with to attach the gear. That way you could easily remove the floats when you want to go back to the original retractable gear. Do you think that would work? Thanks for any thoughts, or other ideas! Keep up the great work! -Mike
Hey Mike thank you man! Really appreciate the kind words. What you're describing sounds like it would work, but the anchors may need ply added to go in to. Not sure just foam would be enough. You might want to check out the RC Groups thread on this plane. I haven't checked it in a while, but there were guys talking about adding floats...someone may have done it by now and you could get some ideas there.
Thanks for the response Adam! I will see about adding some ply or something to beef up where the anchors will go in. If I go that route. I checked on Hobby Squawk, to no avail. I’ll check some other forums. Thanks for your time!
Wowee Adam, great presentation & flights. There is sure a lot of bush around that strip. @ 9 mins it sounded like a real aircraft 🤪 well done mate. Sooo good!
Great review Adam, interesting that FRSky can control the Smart ESC, I need some extra electronics for the Draco ESC to work the reverse and lights. Great flight after you tinkered around with the tail.
Thanks Chris! We made an error...the AR620 IS a Smart rx as it turns out. The thrust reversing and differential thrust will not work with other protocols. We pinned a correction comment.
Thank you for the incredibly informative video! I just got mine all setup and ready to fly with your suggestions incorporated in it. Unfortunately I'm in Norther Ohio and it may be a while before the weather and stars align properly for a first flight. In the mean time building season pushes on.
Another entertaining and informatively detailed review Adam. This time of an historical icon frequently seen in movies. Certainly an unusual twin engined scale model aircraft to own and be seen with at a club flying field. If I had hangar space I'd give it room, but until then I will stick with my twin engine prop plane, the FMS F7F TigerCat .
I like your Review I have the airplane and would agree with most of your observations. I purchased the bind and fly Version. Especially your underlining the takeoff end the ability to make it look scale so very true. I like to add reading the manual really careful The section around the throttle and the trim of the throttle helps with that too. It’s just a couple of sentences but they contain very Porten information
@@ModelAV8RChannel hey Adam and Heidi. We are on the mend extremely slowly but surely. The devastation down here is unimaginable. I couldn't even begin to explain. Today was the first day Emily and I could get to the beach were our place of work was located. An incredibly sad sight to see as we really loved working there. I'm not sure if I have even come out of shock yet. Every day since the storm has felt like one big long day but we are doing our best to stay positive and strong. People like you and Heidi are an enormous help. A huge thank you from all of us here at the Just Enough RC house for your help and support. Reg, Janet, Tod and Annette were extremely touched by your kindness. Love you guys and keep up the excellent work my dear friends❤️💪✌️
Dear friend, i today finished one of these planes, but surprisingly it has problems whit noisy servos. I am disappointed never espect issues whit this brand
Noisy Servos? Well, they are digital, which means they will constantly be keeping themselves centered. Also it has a gyro, so as you move it around the servos will make corrections. Also, if you have a surface in a bind the servos will try to center it, so make sure the surfaces move free and easy.
Thanks Ira. Any synthetic oil with a super thin adapter. Safe for paint and plastic. We used to carry some in the hobby shop I worked at that was called "Hobby Oil". www.amazon.com/Synthetic-Lubricating-Controlled-Vehicles-Evaporate/dp/B00CVWXJCG/ref=sr_1_2?crid=ODQZEJQNQSRB&keywords=hobby+oil&qid=1667331557&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIyLjc2IiwicXNhIjoiMi40NyIsInFzcCI6IjIuNTUifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=%2Caps%2C160&sr=8-2
Adam, so my understanding is that the sub trim had an adverse effect because the rudder ties into the differential thrust in some way. My question is, in general do you advise against correcting an offset surface using sub trim? If so, why?
Using sub trim can affect the absolute travel at one of the endpoints, and that can have a small affect on servo resolution. That said, with the surface deflection on most planes we are no where near the absolute travel of the servo. Even at 100% travel in the TX we still are not close. The servo has the potential to go a good bit further. Also, with most planes...and the way most people fly them...we are no where near asking the servo to use all its torque. So, basically the servo has travel and torque to spare in most cases, and this is why in most cases using sub trim isn't a big deal. That said, for my piece of mind I still don't use tons of it. If the number is starting to get big on the sub trim (like over 45 to 50) I'll just mechanically adjust it to center so I don't need so much. Now, all that said with some turbine and 3D applications...the servos are being challenged close to or at their maximum capability. In these cases, no sub trim at all, get all the servo resolution you can get.
Hey Adam, I received my Beech 18 and I have kind of a noob question, I was hoping you might be able to answer. How do you get the wheels off? I have the DuBro low bounce wheels for it. I wanted to install them, but I don't see how to get the stock wheels off. I didn't want to break anything so I didn't try pulling too hard. There is nothing in the instructions about it either. Thanks for any advice, I appreciate your time!
Hey Mike. I haven't replaced my tires so didn't know but I just went to the shop and figured it out. It's kind of a pain, lol. There is a seam on the lower strut cover. You put your hobby knife in that seam and pry the two halves apart. You can then take them off and get the wheel off. You either glue them back together or you can wrap clear tape around them. If you glue them, only use a tiny amount in a few places. That way you can get them off again later if you have to. You may want to check out the RC groups thread on it. I think a few guys have come up with different oleo struts to use. One other option to consider... It takes a bit of practice to get used to, but it can be greased in without different tires. There are some that think you have to have the low bounce wheels not to bounce, but if you land it right it won't bounce even with the stock tires. Anyway hope this helps!
Adam, great video as always. I follow all your videos but I'm somewhat surprised, you being a WAR Bird enthusiast that I do not see a review of the wonderful Eflight T-28 TROJAN 1.2m (1200mm)? WHY? 🤨
Hey thanks very much...we appreciate it! Well we just haven't had the chance, but I've flown several of them. It is the best flying (easiest) of all the 1.2 Warbirds. I've flown all of them. Great airplane! Can't ever go wrong with a T-28. In all sizes they just fly great.
Loved this, BUT... His conclusion that the diff thrust will work with ANY RX is wrong.... I need independent confirmation on this. Early on in the vid he mentioned that he was using a AR620 in this model. While the AR620 does not have AS3X or SAFE, it DOES have a "Data" connection that is accessed thru... You got it... The throttle channel... And since the Data port is using the SRXL2 protocol rudder commands are available to the ESC, which is where the DIff thrust magic is happening.... Just checked the HH/Spek site and Yes the AR620 is a SMART RX.... Gonna make the rudder linkage mod in about the next 30 mins... Huge thumbs up for this... Really, really liked this vid, and lovin the plane. I especially appreciate that he focused on the "Airframe" what is the airframe capable of, independent of what the electronics are doing. Hats Off Adam... old_coastie
Hey man thank you for the correction on the RX. When I get home to a computer (at the field now) I will pin a correction to the top of the comments and also post a correction on RC Groups. Thanks again, and glad you enjoyed it! Adam
@@ModelAV8RChannel Adam you ROCK... Know what is funny? You mention the AR620 at exactly 6:20 in the vid... What a coincidence!!! Quick question, what tail wheel did you change to.. Also gonna do the rudder linkage change in about 30 mins. Here is another mod I did, reverse the elevator linkage so that elev clevis is inside fuselage instead of buried in the tail. Thumbs up brother. BTW old_coastie on RCG.
Great job.. The content and quality video is outstanding as always. She's an amazingly sexy plane.. You flew the heck out of her too.. Wonderful flying. You and Heidi did a spectacular job. (Still would like to see her on floats.. ;-)
Hey Erin...thank you for watching. The part # is DUB100TW. It is a 1 in. rubber tail wheel. You can order direct from Du Bro, Amazon, and many other hobby retailers. If you have a local Hobby Shop they may carry it.
If you look up hobby oil on Amazon, you'll get a lot of choices. Any 100% synthetic oil of those choices will do. I think the last time I got some I bought Liberty brand.
www.amazon.com/Synthetic-Lubricating-Controlled-Vehicles-Evaporate/dp/B00CVWXJCG/ref=sr_1_2?crid=ABHQAHDTZH4D&keywords=hobby+oil&qid=1671721008&sprefix=hobby+oil%2Caps%2C109&sr=8-2 There you go!
@@ModelAV8RChannel duh…. Thank you very much. Great video and very helpful info on the Beechcraft. Mine feels like it’s on ice, definitely makes you work the sticks to get it in the air.
Its all good my friend, there is always so much on the set up pages its easy to miss stuff. The D18 is a challenge to take off...really have to be busy on rudder. Increasing the throw helped as well.
The rudder servo has two rudders and a tail wheel to deal with. You want to give the servo the best mechanical advantage you can, so the closer you can get the pushrod to the output shaft, the easier on the servo it will be. Its already in the middle of the servo arm, we didn't want to go further out. These are not super strong, expensive servos like you'd outfit a 3D plane with. This way, we give the servo some advantage, and still get the throw we want. Also, If you're talking about moving the clevis in on the rudder control horns...there isn't one. Its a single ball link attached to each rudder. No adjustment there possible.
@@ModelAV8RChannel I was saying to just pull the servo horn and use it to turn and adjust the rudder not to move it on the horn . So then you don't have to remove the whole tail .
@ian reed Ian watch that part of the video again bud. No, that would not work. The pushrod from the servo is attached to a bell crank that moves the tail wheel. Another short pushrod is attached to that and moves the rudders. We changed several things about the placement and shape of both pushrods to achieve more rudder throw. The tail section has to be removed to do that and make centering adjustments. It is all explained in depth in the episode.
*IMPORTANT CORRECTION: In our review we use a Spektrum AR620, state that it is not a smart rx, and point out that differential thrust should not work with this rx. We had differential thrust anyway. We go on to conclude that differential thrust will be available to protocols other than Spektrum Smart rx's as the differential thrust is a mix handled by the Smart ESC programming.
This is not correct. As it turns out the AR620 IS a Smart rx that is only limited in telemetry options compared to other Smart rx's. This explains why we had differential thrust. Horizon was right on with the information they provided. Protocols other than Spektrum with Smart technology will NOT have the differential thrust and reversing options.
We are usually very tactical with what we say and how we say it in a review. We want only to provide the best, most accurate, and helpful information we can. We apologize for any confusion. We will be more diligent in our research and try to see to it we don't make this kind of error again. Sorry for any confusion.
I would personally like to thank Old Coastie (on RCG, RC Stuff on YT) for correcting us and educating us on what the proper information is. I appreciate you catching this early and sharing with us so we could get the correction out there quickly. It's people like you in our Model AV8R community that make us better. Thanks again!
Adam
Model AV8R Channel
Thanks for correcting mate ! What a nice review that’s what everybody wants to watch instead of just fly it like a di*k and ripping it unscale without any proper review…thanks a lot buddy for your work 🫡🤩
Thank YOU Arthur!
@@ModelAV8RChannel you’re very welcome my friend 🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@ModelAV8RChannel you’re very welcome my friend 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Very interesting.
I seem to remember talk that updating the AR620 and 410 receivers firmware gave them near SMART receiver telemetry but did not expect the differential thrust to work without an onboard mixing board or some radio mixing when not using actual SMART equipment.
I'll have to look closer at the dual 40A ESC, sounds like it could be fun.
Great flying as always Adam, looking forward to the next review.
Hi Adam
All I going to say is.... ITS BEAUTIFUL.. ITS WHAT DREAMS ARE MADE OF
Brian
Totally agree Brian!
Good point on taking the rod off the servo arm. I'm dumb and didn't even consider it. That's why we come here - you always have helpful tips that many people would overlook or not even realize on their own. It looks like yours is a little squirrelly on the ground as the tail begins to gain flight speed but before the rudders are really effective, too.
Thank you Jon. The D18 is a difficult tail dragger to handle on a slow, scale takeoff for sure. The extra rudder throw really helps, and you really have to be on it right from the start. As they say in full scale "Happy Feet" - back and forth the whole time. I use that movement instantly as I'm throttling up, and intuitively you can see the effect the movements are having as the tail wiggles side to side under your control. Essentially you are causing all the movement rather than seeing what it does and responding to it. Its incredibly hard to try and just react to what its doing without getting behind it. I have had worse though. I owned a Fokker DR1 that was a total $hit $how to take off and land without it ending up on its back...Lol.
Nice flying. You're the first reviewer of this plane to actually talk about how to improve the handling, everyone else said it was great right out of the box. I appreciate that. I also really like how you flew the slower more scale like manouvres.
Thanks very much! Glad it was helpful. That is our goal always...
Fantastic review Adam, I haven't watched anybody elses review, it won't be as thorough as yours and that's a fact 🙂 It is a beautiful model that could seriously interest me in the future, cheers 👍
It is great Cliff...so graceful! If you want one see my pinned comment. I had to make a correction.
flew mine last Thursday with no differential or stabilization, ran a 3600 Hrb and was slightly nose heavy with the lipo all the way forward, . , due to the nose heavy.Reduced the rudder travel to 80% in dead air. will run a rubber duro tailwheel to stick to the surface as i do on all my warbirds , per your comments also the tiny foam skipped and did not track the ground on a paved surface good very easy and smooth twin . a great scale d-18,will buy a second one for sure to keep a customize
Great plane, glad you like it!
I just wanted to say thank you. I made the servo arm adjustments as you did in the video and it’s night and day… so much better!
Outstanding! Glad it helped. Thank you for watching!
Adam HH really got this Beech 18 right, great review, have never liked sub trim myself, Bigfoot bound Jeff in LA USA
It is a beauty Jeff!
Alright!! I'm all comfy and ready!!! GO
Joel you always make me smile!
@@ModelAV8RChannel Ha ha Funny or ha ha Hum.... lol
@@dutchloveRC funny of course!
I flew mine with the BNF AR631 receiver, and wasn't crazy about the differential thrust. I'm sure 90%+ will love it, but I didn't.
I put in a Lemon Stabilized receiver, and have loved every second of flying this plane with stabilization, but no differential thrust.
What an awesome release from E-flite...my favorite so far!
That doesn't surprise me Doug...we may use forward programming to turn it off and see what we think of that. Turns out the AR620 IS a Smart rx!
Fantastic flying!! The scale maneuvers look perfect and these are the straightest and smoothest takeoffs/landing I’ve seen with this model!!
Thanks very much Travis! I love scale flying and I work hard trying to perfect my rudder skills. The part of our review where we get more rudder throw is key. It really helps to have enough deflection/authority to keep it squared away. It is a difficult tail dragger to handle on a slow, scale takeoff.
I love the airprox at 22:59! Kudos for reviewing the PNP: Provides some very valuable information. As always, I love the scale flying, especially adding power on the vertical to imitate momentum - never thought of that before but makes so much sense.
Thanks very much. We had to pin a comment with a correction though. We were wrong about the rx compatibility.
Dang it, Adam; the way you fly this thing makes it very difficult to resist. I returned to the hobby a couple months ago after a 10-12 year layoff - and I’ve acquired 6 aircraft already. The wife is gonna kill me when this one arrives, and it’s all your fault. 🤣
Lol...I'll take the blame. Not sure she'll care though...lol. Welcome back to the hobby Tony! You'll really enjoy the Beech...such a great airplane, and what a looker too!
Team AV8R did not disappoint!! great video guys!!!
Thanks Joel!
I got one and it flies great.
Awesome
That was Genius what you did with the tail wheel and rudder linkages Adam, Lowers the rate of the tail wheel and increases the rudder deflection simply brilliant set up that im gonna steal from you
Thanks man, it really works. Also at this point I've turned off the differential thrust.
@@ModelAV8RChannel im not sure ill be able to shut off the differential thrust with my flysky 6 channel radio with the avion esc?
You can't with that TX, but you can with the Spektrum ESC programmer.
Beautiful Flying and camera work.
Thank you Dan!
Holy moly! What an excellent review my friend! You and Heidi did an excellent job; you on the stick, and Heidi on the camer tracking that model in very low-light conditions. I'm glad you liked the model in the end, I most certainly like mine! A classic twin at it's best!
Thanks John! I could have done a bit more research I guess, but we pinned a correction for my rx info error. The wind has been blowing lately here so either early or late is the only calm option. Heidi does great thankfully! I love this thing...beautiful!
Very very good job, Jimmy agrees, as we watched the video together! 😎
Thank you Mark. Pet lil Jimmy for us.
@@ModelAV8RChannel will do!
Even in the best models the smallest adjustments can make the biggest difference! It was a good reminder to everyone to take your time even in something as well built aa one of these. Excellent flying my friend and presentation as always!
Thanks David! So...how you feeling and what are you working on?
@@ModelAV8RChannel I have the Skymaster on the last parts of completion. I have the functional wings working and the extensions I needed came for them. The 20ch receiver is programmed and needs put in. Otherwise I have been working on an xfly setup in my freewing F14 and found it made a massive difference in takeoff authority and weight savings. Otherwise just flying when I feel well enough and doing the Dr thing. Thanks for asking my friend!
Hope you get back to 100% soon my friend.
Good Job! Some many reviews only say how great it flys rather than pointing out how to solve a problem. A friend crashed his on the first flight in a tip stall. He is a pretty good flyer, but something was wrong!
Thanks very much! Hate to hear of your friends crash!
I really liked your review and the many pointers about what to do and not do. I'm kind of tempted to get one and hold it till I feel more at ease with the skill level you mention. My partner and I had a-45 back in the early 80's. Fun airplane. When we weren't going to regional airshows with it he was hauling freight to help offset cost of ownership if you know what I mean. We did do a paint job on it for our participation with Warbirds of America. It was done in Camo with nose art.
Man that is awesome! It is a great flyer, great piece to have in the hangar.
Thanks for a great video. I’ve been an aviation geek my whole life, but am just now going to learn to fly RC. I’ll be learning on a 1.5m Carbon Cub S2, and when I get some experience this Beech will be my next purchase for sure. Absolutely loved watching that thing fly!
Thanks for watching. Welcome to the hobby! We can't all be Kermit Weeks, but it's pretty easy to end up with a hangar full of these! The D18 is such a great airplane, and beautiful. Best of luck in your RC aviation journey.
@@ModelAV8RChannel Thanks very much. I’m quite sure I’ll be very consumed by this hobby and end up risking many upcoming nights sleeping on my couch…
Lol, I hope not, but we've all done that!
I love your scale like maneuvers and flight speeds.
Thanks very much!
This totally answers every pertinent question about this plane that I had. Thank you!
Glad it helped, but ...read the pinned comment at the top in the comment section. I got it wrong about the RX.
@@ModelAV8RChannel I do have one additional question, if I could ask. With a smart spektrum radio, with forward programming, can one turn off the differential thrust with a switch? And, if so, is that possible with both the bnf and rtf?
I don't think you can on the D18 with forward programming (you can with the Twimber and EC-1500). You can use the Spektrum programmer to turn it off or adjust it, but you can't assign it to a switch. On the PNP having Forward programming would be determined by weather or not you use a compatible RX. You can adjust the ESC's with the Spektrum programmer no matter the RX.
That was nice to watch. Got mine built but haven’t recovered from retinal surgery enough to fly yet so I’m living vicariously.
I will say my rudders were way out of sync out of the box, my right vertical stab wasn’t completely glued in and my right wing outer section quick connector wasn’t glued all the way in. Using a smart esc programming box was how I turned on thrust reverse and I did see an option for differential thrust (set at 15%) I supposed only smart receivers would send other channel information to the esc allowing that mix to happen.
Thanks for watching! Hope you recover quickly. Sorry you had some issues, but it happens sometimes. Glad you got it sorted and man you are going to LOVE the way it flies!
Thanks Adam Excellent Review and Tips as always
Thanks James!
I love that this is about 1/10 scale. Would fit right in with my RC trail trucks and cars,
Very cool. I never thought about that!
Great info with the pnp , you make it look easy to fly
Thanks man! See our pinned comment...we had to make a correction about the rx compatibility.
Great video Adam and nice flying. The added rudder throw seems to really help. I was thinking about moving my rod out on the servo end, Honestly i didn't even notice the extra holes on the bell crank end of the hook up... Glad to see you corrected yourself on the AR620. Whole video i was saying yes it is smart.. I use them in everything I fly cause they are Smart. Guess you have missed that in my videos. Also you CAN NOT use forward programming as of right now to change or turn off the Diff. thrust.. You Must have the Spektrum Programmer box. I used mine to enable the Reverse thrust just because I can ha ha. If you decide to do that.. make sure you do both sides of the esc..
Thanks Chris really appreciate it man. It is a great plane. Funny thing is...almost everybody has the BNF and none of that is a concern for them. You are right about the forward programming, but they intend to change that soon according to HH. Also when the 620's first came out they were not Smart...the Smart/SRXL2 was added later. I didn't bother to check on that (never thought to actually), and I have some older ones that are not SMART. I remember when they came out...I was working at the Hobby Shop, and SMART wasn't invented yet. That tech came out later.
Great Show!
Beauty AV8R
Thank you very much Jono!
Great vid, Adam, thanks! I appreciate your honestly and candor...otherwise I may not like you anymore as easy as you make taildragging look! 😁. I've had this one in my wishlist since it released, this encourages me to transport it to the shopping cart a bit more.
Thanks very much! Please read the correction we made in the pinned comment.
Classic in every way, well done sir.
Thanks Pappy. Really appreciate you watching!
Excellent flying & review, Adam! Can hardly wait to maiden mine!
Thanks very much Joel! Man you are going to love it...so smooth, so beautiful.
Thanks Adam, great review and beautiful flights with the E-Flight D-18. I am a sucker for the golden age and this is as good as it gets to fit that. I am originally from Wichita and growing up in the 60's you could see these flying on occasion and what a sound.
Tony thank you my friend! I agree...this is a classic beauty from a rarely modeled age of aircraft.
I too am from Wichita and grew up there in the 60's. Your no relationship to Bobby are you ?
@@russc3288 No relation to Bobby Jenkins. I was on the west side of town.
@@odwatchguy Thanks anyway. We lived on South Main and Tony was Bobby's big brother. Bobby was killed in Nam in 67 and I lost track of Tony. Enjoy the weekend.
Stunning model that Adam and Heidi, and a great review!! It looks stunning in the air!! A very polished review video!! Well done both of you!! And kudos for mentioning your mistake on using the Sub trim 😀👍
Thanks Ian! yes my friend sometimes I "Bubba" stuff...lol.
Quite an astoundingly gorgeous model... and well flown, of course. It seems impressive on the ground, but up in the air, she's supreme. Nice that E-flite listened to customer feedback. Now all they need do is another Spitfire or Mosquito...
Wouldn't a Mosquito be good Gina 👍
Thanks Gina, and YES we need a Mosquito!
@@CliffHarveyRCPlanes I think I would explode with joy if they did, Cliff!!
❤🤍💙 (Wanders off humming the 633 Squadron theme...)
@@ModelAV8RChannel We just need a collective, quiet word in Mr. Merkle's ear, Adam... 😄
Great review Adam! Really appreciate and enjoy the channel. I have just ordered the Beech 18 from HH. She will be here next week sometime. I'm up near Minneapolis, MN and we have a lot of snow right now. I have been flying most of my planes with floats, and landing on the snow, which has been some great fun. I would really like to install floats on this Beech 18. I have some ideas, but was wondering what your thoughts are on floats for this plane. How would you do it, if you were tasked with installing floats on this plane? I was thinking, dry wall anchors. Using float gear that attaches very similarly to the way the FMS Beaver 2.0m floats attach, (not as big of course). Glue in, and countersink the anchors, then just use the self tapping screws that the anchors come with to attach the gear. That way you could easily remove the floats when you want to go back to the original retractable gear. Do you think that would work? Thanks for any thoughts, or other ideas! Keep up the great work!
-Mike
Hey Mike thank you man! Really appreciate the kind words. What you're describing sounds like it would work, but the anchors may need ply added to go in to. Not sure just foam would be enough. You might want to check out the RC Groups thread on this plane. I haven't checked it in a while, but there were guys talking about adding floats...someone may have done it by now and you could get some ideas there.
Thanks for the response Adam! I will see about adding some ply or something to beef up where the anchors will go in. If I go that route. I checked on Hobby Squawk, to no avail. I’ll check some other forums. Thanks for your time!
What a beauty 😍
Awesome review as always ✌️
Thank you! Appreciate it.
Wowee Adam, great presentation & flights. There is sure a lot of bush around that strip. @ 9 mins it sounded like a real aircraft 🤪 well done mate. Sooo good!
Ha! Thanks Noel. Yeah its pretty tight...
I found the answer below, thanks for your great video.
Thanks for watching...glad it was helpful!
Great video again Adam!
Thanks man!
Cool airplane and great flying.
Thanks a lot!
Great review Adam, interesting that FRSky can control the Smart ESC, I need some extra electronics for the Draco ESC to work the reverse and lights. Great flight after you tinkered around with the tail.
Thanks Chris! We made an error...the AR620 IS a Smart rx as it turns out. The thrust reversing and differential thrust will not work with other protocols. We pinned a correction comment.
@@ModelAV8RChannel I have a fix for this, hopefully I get my head around it for this Friday 🫡
Awesome RC Aircraft!!!! & Awesome review, thank you!
Thank you Adam!
i love twins, this is a beautiful 🐦 great review
Thank you...awesome airplane!
Thank you for the incredibly informative video! I just got mine all setup and ready to fly with your suggestions incorporated in it. Unfortunately I'm in Norther Ohio and it may be a while before the weather and stars align properly for a first flight. In the mean time building season pushes on.
Building is a great thing. I'm doing some of that too. Thanks for the kind words...you will love the D18. Beautiful model.
Another entertaining and informatively detailed review Adam. This time of an historical icon frequently seen in movies. Certainly an unusual twin engined scale model aircraft to own and be seen with at a club flying field. If I had hangar space I'd give it room, but until then I will stick with my twin engine prop plane, the FMS F7F TigerCat .
Thank you Dave! Man the FMS TigerCat is a big, nice bird. That gear is epic.
I like your Review I have the airplane and would agree with most of your observations. I purchased the bind and fly Version. Especially your underlining the takeoff end the ability to make it look scale so very true. I like to add reading the manual really careful The section around the throttle and the trim of the throttle helps with that too. It’s just a couple of sentences but they contain very Porten information
Awesome Andreas, thank you!
great looking flights and info...tnx for PNP info... 👍👍
Thank you! See our pinned comment though...we had to make a correction regarding compatible rx's
Very nice my friends 😁👍 looks like the canopy is clear. Any detail in the cockpit? You know me..gotta check for fpv compatibility 👊✌️
Just a note. Tom H. is already planning on using a "Spare" canopy to be able to swap out with stock, i.e. a FPV canopy... old_coastie
Hey Jude! Hope everyone down there is on the mend buddy. Of course you can work your FPV mojo on this one!
@@ModelAV8RChannel hey Adam and Heidi. We are on the mend extremely slowly but surely. The devastation down here is unimaginable. I couldn't even begin to explain. Today was the first day Emily and I could get to the beach were our place of work was located. An incredibly sad sight to see as we really loved working there. I'm not sure if I have even come out of shock yet. Every day since the storm has felt like one big long day but we are doing our best to stay positive and strong. People like you and Heidi are an enormous help. A huge thank you from all of us here at the Just Enough RC house for your help and support. Reg, Janet, Tod and Annette were extremely touched by your kindness. Love you guys and keep up the excellent work my dear friends❤️💪✌️
Love to you all as well Jude. We are praying for you all...
Dear friend, i today finished one of these planes, but surprisingly it has problems whit noisy servos. I am disappointed never espect issues whit this brand
Noisy Servos? Well, they are digital, which means they will constantly be keeping themselves centered. Also it has a gyro, so as you move it around the servos will make corrections. Also, if you have a surface in a bind the servos will try to center it, so make sure the surfaces move free and easy.
Informative video as usual and great flying. Never heard of hobby oil. What did you use for the sticky rudder push rod?
Thanks Ira. Any synthetic oil with a super thin adapter. Safe for paint and plastic. We used to carry some in the hobby shop I worked at that was called "Hobby Oil".
www.amazon.com/Synthetic-Lubricating-Controlled-Vehicles-Evaporate/dp/B00CVWXJCG/ref=sr_1_2?crid=ODQZEJQNQSRB&keywords=hobby+oil&qid=1667331557&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIyLjc2IiwicXNhIjoiMi40NyIsInFzcCI6IjIuNTUifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=%2Caps%2C160&sr=8-2
@@ModelAV8RChannel Perfect.Thanks
Adam, so my understanding is that the sub trim had an adverse effect because the rudder ties into the differential thrust in some way. My question is, in general do you advise against correcting an offset surface using sub trim? If so, why?
Using sub trim can affect the absolute travel at one of the endpoints, and that can have a small affect on servo resolution. That said, with the surface deflection on most planes we are no where near the absolute travel of the servo. Even at 100% travel in the TX we still are not close. The servo has the potential to go a good bit further. Also, with most planes...and the way most people fly them...we are no where near asking the servo to use all its torque. So, basically the servo has travel and torque to spare in most cases, and this is why in most cases using sub trim isn't a big deal. That said, for my piece of mind I still don't use tons of it. If the number is starting to get big on the sub trim (like over 45 to 50) I'll just mechanically adjust it to center so I don't need so much.
Now, all that said with some turbine and 3D applications...the servos are being challenged close to or at their maximum capability. In these cases, no sub trim at all, get all the servo resolution you can get.
@@ModelAV8RChannel great info Adam. Thank you!
Hey Adam, I received my Beech 18 and I have kind of a noob question, I was hoping you might be able to answer. How do you get the wheels off? I have the DuBro low bounce wheels for it. I wanted to install them, but I don't see how to get the stock wheels off. I didn't want to break anything so I didn't try pulling too hard. There is nothing in the instructions about it either. Thanks for any advice, I appreciate your time!
Hey Mike. I haven't replaced my tires so didn't know but I just went to the shop and figured it out. It's kind of a pain, lol. There is a seam on the lower strut cover. You put your hobby knife in that seam and pry the two halves apart. You can then take them off and get the wheel off. You either glue them back together or you can wrap clear tape around them. If you glue them, only use a tiny amount in a few places. That way you can get them off again later if you have to. You may want to check out the RC groups thread on it. I think a few guys have come up with different oleo struts to use. One other option to consider... It takes a bit of practice to get used to, but it can be greased in without different tires. There are some that think you have to have the low bounce wheels not to bounce, but if you land it right it won't bounce even with the stock tires. Anyway hope this helps!
@@ModelAV8RChannel Thanks so much, Adam! You're a great help as usual! Keep up the great work brother!
You are very welcome Mike! Enjoy that D18...what a beauty!
Adam, great video as always. I follow all your videos but I'm somewhat surprised, you being a WAR Bird enthusiast that I do not see a review of the wonderful Eflight T-28 TROJAN 1.2m (1200mm)? WHY? 🤨
Hey thanks very much...we appreciate it! Well we just haven't had the chance, but I've flown several of them. It is the best flying (easiest) of all the 1.2 Warbirds. I've flown all of them. Great airplane! Can't ever go wrong with a T-28. In all sizes they just fly great.
Loved this, BUT... His conclusion that the diff thrust will work with ANY RX is wrong.... I need independent confirmation on this.
Early on in the vid he mentioned that he was using a AR620 in this model. While the AR620 does not have AS3X or SAFE, it DOES have a "Data" connection that is accessed thru... You got it... The throttle channel... And since the Data port is using the SRXL2 protocol rudder commands are available to the ESC, which is where the DIff thrust magic is happening....
Just checked the HH/Spek site and Yes the AR620 is a SMART RX....
Gonna make the rudder linkage mod in about the next 30 mins... Huge thumbs up for this...
Really, really liked this vid, and lovin the plane. I especially appreciate that he focused on the "Airframe" what is the airframe capable of, independent of what the electronics are doing. Hats Off Adam... old_coastie
Hey man thank you for the correction on the RX. When I get home to a computer (at the field now) I will pin a correction to the top of the comments and also post a correction on RC Groups. Thanks again, and glad you enjoyed it! Adam
@@ModelAV8RChannel Adam you ROCK... Know what is funny? You mention the AR620 at exactly 6:20 in the vid... What a coincidence!!! Quick question, what tail wheel did you change to.. Also gonna do the rudder linkage change in about 30 mins. Here is another mod I did, reverse the elevator linkage so that elev clevis is inside fuselage instead of buried in the tail. Thumbs up brother.
BTW old_coastie on RCG.
Thank you brother! Correction pinned here, posted on RCG. Thats funny about 6:20...had no idea! Lol!
Nice video, very nice flight, you make it look easy! ☠Semper Fi
Thanks man! Great flyer this one...
Thanks a lot
Great job.. The content and quality video is outstanding as always. She's an amazingly sexy plane.. You flew the heck out of her too.. Wonderful flying. You and Heidi did a spectacular job. (Still would like to see her on floats.. ;-)
Thank you so much Will. We made an error though...see the pinned comment for our correction.
Totally awesome vid! I dont even have one and i watched all of it hahaha
Thanks brother Brent! We had to pin a correction comment. Turns out the AR620 is a Smart rx...
@@ModelAV8RChannel intrresting!
Can you tell me where you purchased the du bro tail wheel such as size and such. Thanks sir
Hey Erin...thank you for watching. The part # is DUB100TW. It is a 1 in. rubber tail wheel. You can order direct from Du Bro, Amazon, and many other hobby retailers. If you have a local Hobby Shop they may carry it.
What do you use for "hobby oil"? is there a foam-safe oil that you use? Thanks!
If you look up hobby oil on Amazon, you'll get a lot of choices. Any 100% synthetic oil of those choices will do. I think the last time I got some I bought Liberty brand.
@@ModelAV8RChannel Thanks! And thanks for the excellent content. Your videos have been a great help to me.
Can you give me a link to Hobby oil you used on rudder assembly?
www.amazon.com/Synthetic-Lubricating-Controlled-Vehicles-Evaporate/dp/B00CVWXJCG/ref=sr_1_2?crid=ABHQAHDTZH4D&keywords=hobby+oil&qid=1671721008&sprefix=hobby+oil%2Caps%2C109&sr=8-2
There you go!
How can the ESC do differential thrust without a rudder signal?
It can't... See my comment, Adam replied and will be adding a Note to the vid.
The AR620 IS a smart rx as it turns out. The esc recognizes it and mixes the rudder to throttles. It won't work with other protocols.
Which rear tire did you use?
In the episode we listed it on the bottom of our set-up info page.
Du Bro Part # DUB100TW.
@@ModelAV8RChannel duh…. Thank you very much.
Great video and very helpful info on the Beechcraft. Mine feels like it’s on ice, definitely makes you work the sticks to get it in the air.
Its all good my friend, there is always so much on the set up pages its easy to miss stuff. The D18 is a challenge to take off...really have to be busy on rudder. Increasing the throw helped as well.
Why not just remove the servo horn and adjust the rudder like that ?
The rudder servo has two rudders and a tail wheel to deal with. You want to give the servo the best mechanical advantage you can, so the closer you can get the pushrod to the output shaft, the easier on the servo it will be. Its already in the middle of the servo arm, we didn't want to go further out. These are not super strong, expensive servos like you'd outfit a 3D plane with. This way, we give the servo some advantage, and still get the throw we want.
Also, If you're talking about moving the clevis in on the rudder control horns...there isn't one. Its a single ball link attached to each rudder. No adjustment there possible.
@@ModelAV8RChannel I was saying to just pull the servo horn and use it to turn and adjust the rudder not to move it on the horn . So then you don't have to remove the whole tail .
@ian reed Ian watch that part of the video again bud. No, that would not work. The pushrod from the servo is attached to a bell crank that moves the tail wheel. Another short pushrod is attached to that and moves the rudders. We changed several things about the placement and shape of both pushrods to achieve more rudder throw. The tail section has to be removed to do that and make centering adjustments. It is all explained in depth in the episode.