Tun M..you are right..we need to be a producer not only a consumer..we hv plenty of professionals n intelligent ppl n graduates..there4 its wise to produce meantime to be able to make our msia manufacturers cars to enhance our economy too..
tun is a person with high vision. he is trying so hard to pass the massage out to the people. but sadly we the people never got it. that is why we are so far behind in anything and everything. this is the reality in malaysia. we are still not wise enough. the biggest failure is we can't be united as one is always bout races. malay say bersatu kita teguh bercerai kita roboh. we said it but do we practice it. together we can move mountains. Malaysia will be great again one day. but do that day will come this is all in the hand of the people of malaysia.
I think we as the future generations should be better than the previous...Enough of figthing for one race and lets strive to achieve success as Malaysians... We are more diverse than ever before, lets use this advantage and help each other
😂😂😂 "...but Malaysians, oh, we are great believers of globalisation. We open up to everybody...and we are poor..." Tun M knows how to make his points hit home. That's why he is the BEST Malaysian statesman right up there with Tun Abdul Rahman. Long live, Tun..! 💪👍👏
saya rasa ramai student kejuruteraan akan sokong cadangan Ini. peluang pekerjaan kepada ramai graduasi. banyak syarikat yang akan buat car compartment. boleh wujud industri latihan. macam macam boleh wujud kalau cadangan Ini terlaksana.
Terbaik tun.... sebab tulah rakyat sygkan tun... sebab mentaliti tun... ke arah kebaikan dan kemajuan negara malaysia,malaysia bertuah mempunyai pemimpin seperti tun
IF CAR industries still PROFITABLE, WHY Australia(HOLDEN) & Plenty of other Car brands(Jaguar/volvo/Range Rover/....) SOLD OF to INDIAN and China company??
Pesanan ni patut sampai ke dalam TV3 or semua TV in malaysia! Patut jadi iklan secara tak langsung! Most of Tun Spoke is Inspiring! Moving forward for Better Malaysia!!! #SayangiMalaysiaKu
@@meosman4525 Komen ko menunjukkan ko dungu! Tun adalah Bapak Proton. Dia yang cipta proton untuk bangunkan rakyat Malaysia. Cuba ko duduk tempat dia, apa ko rasa bila proton kena jual? Ada sebab dia marah tindakan menjual proton. Bila dia jadi PM, pertimbangan untuk beli balik proton adalah pertimbangan berat kerana akan mengadap banyak pendapat/bantahan rakyat. Jadi Tun kena lebih cerdik untuk deal yang lebih manfaat. Disini Tun bukan U-Turn tetapi menunjukkan dia lebih bijak berurusniaga. Orang bodoh macam ko susah nak faham benda macam ni. Takkan sebab tak setuju penjualan proton, kena abaikan terus proton? Sedangkan terdapat ramai vendor dari kalangan bangsa melayu, pekerja melayu. Benda macam ni pun ko tak akan mampu fikir. Tapi Tun berfikir akan kepentingan ini semua. Sebab tu dia ambik tanggungjawab untuk rundingan yang lebih baik. Bukan jilat ludah.. tapi PENAMBAHBAIKAN. Sekali lagi orang bodoh macam ko tak akan terfikir benda ni. Malaysia perlukan pemimpin yang hebat untuk jadi ketua. Biar KETUA itu tinggi angan-angan untuk mencapai bulan. Tetapi jika anak buahnya semua sebodoh ko pun, ketua tadi tetap tak akan kemana-mana. Buka la fikiran tu biar luas pandangan. Jangan sampai bodoh seumur hidup.
Hairudin...Betul tu...Tun M nak industri pembuatan berkembang...Korea Selatan ada Hyundai, KIA, Daewoo dan SsangYong...Negara Korea Selatan sama je dgn Malaysia.
This is why no-one can replace Tun M.. his point of view to bring Malaysian people into a world of success and own will power... Great Leader Tun M.. We love u...
We can have high aspirations to develop engineering etc but often fail to address human attributes like discipline, working hard, steadfast, upright, honesty, integrity, corruption and greed. The list goes on..if people are lazy, seeking instant gratification all the time, you can have the best vision but be no where near to achieving it.
Yeah, so the main problem is education. If we don't reach high standard of education, we won't be having good society like the Japanese. I think the gov should focus more on education because it shapes the society, mind and thinking.
Not that I am pouring cold water, firstly we must know what kind of work mentality & attitude our people have to produce another Proton 2.0 Be more realistic.
Come on Tun, just face it, what is the reason of failure at Proton ??? And on MALAYSIA economy strategy too.. M.JACKSON once said before : PLS DON'T WASTE TIMES BEING COLOUR. Peace all 🙏🙏🙏
Phones? Ppl buy a lot of phones too!! How about television? What about not having a national but just be a production hub! But wait, Thailand got there before us because of? Hahaha... Tun, you're a great leader, no doubt but pls accord us some respect. If you can review and tell us what went wrong with Proton and how the next venture would need to fix a b c and d, perhaps the ppl are more open to the idea.. Hyundai doesn't sell as many in S Korea.. most of their sales are overseas.. they paired up with Kia and the Koreans let go of Daewoo.. Hyundai Kia appreciates foreign talent as these are needed to expedite the development. All you did was trusted Tengku Mahaleel whom ended up hijacking your dream and made it a nightmare for the honest folks who can only afford to buy Proton and took a 9 yr loan to pay the govt taxes! Who does that?! Does Koreans take loans to fund their govt and car companies? What about the Germans?! Or the Japanese?
I agreed with Tun M we start from car engineering produce spare parts even we can produce parts of trucks n others for future make it asean market competition with Europe
Yes Tun u are right, after u left Pak lah instead of nurturing proton started issuing thoudands of AP's to import foreign cars. Theres a NAZA assembly plant at Kepala Batas(his contituency). Najib came n he says what the hell lets make some money ,sell proton. The oppositions during yr time were a bunch of jerks too. They keep saying it was a waste of money,white elephant, it will not succeed n so on. They were a bunch of idiots who do not know when to oppose n when to support. As a result the raakyat looses. Despite all odds proton still managed to persevere thats why they still produce cars up to this day one model after another, exora,pesona,gen2preve...even the first model saga 30overs yrs u can still find on the road. All I can say is theres alot of bad hearted people in malaysia who do not want to see us succeed.Proton is not only yr legacy Tun ,its ours too.
Agreed. Taking Proton as an example, it is a reflection of our nation’s success/failure.. if everyone is supporting the idea of making our nation a developed one, they would in any way try to make it work. But if they keep opposing to this idea, then we’ll not go far. And proton will always be seen a waste and a failure. We should learn from japan, s.korea and China on how they managed to make their country successful and better.
Kesilapan proton ialah tidak mampu mencipta enjin buatan sendiri dan bergantung pada enjin buatan pengeluar... kita hanya pandai mengubah suai (design) kereta tetapi bila masuk teknologi elektronik n kejuruteraan ... semua dari pengeluar lain
Belajar susah-2 kejuruteraan sampai 3,4 tahun boleh yg capai 7 tahun pun Ada kalau ambik ijazah ,tapi Bila keluar gaji tak macam pecah kepala otak jawap exam ..tapi bersyukurnyaa tun nak perkasakan indutsri kejuruteraan ,thanks tun .. #voteyoungpeople
woi bila masa plak proton tak mampu cipta enjin sendiri. get your facts right. campro & variasi2 selepasnya semuanya lukisan tangan anak tempatan. suka-suka je cakap orang malaysia tak mampu buat enjin sendiri.
Sy tak tau rakyat fikir apa.tp sy salute tun.sy bljr sesuatu dr kilang jepun.mmg kita blh belajar.tgk tun kata rugi pun tak apa tp dy nak anak cucu belajar sesuatu.
Ada pepatah Melayu panggil, yang dikejar tak dapat, yang dikendong berciciran. Time dia jadi PM-4, kononnya nak jadikan Malaysia negara perindustrian. Budget, polisi Malaysia semua tukar ke arah tu. Buat lagi Proton, tak cukup, buat pulak Perodua. Malaysia yang kaya dengan hasil bumi ni, yang macam2 pokok boleh ditanam, tak diberi perhatian. Fast-forward sampai sekarang. Bila dibandingkan dengan Thailand, Indonesia.... Malaysia masih ketinggalan jugak dalam industri automotif. Low Cost labour, semua ke China. Pertanian? Malaysia masih lagi mengimport hasil tani dari negara jiran, terutamanya Thailand. Ayam import, lembu import, sayur import. Yang dirancang tak menjadi, yang tak dirancang sudah tentulah tak menjadi jugak!! Apa yang kita nak buat sekarang? Sekarang kita nak buat kereta nasional ketiga. Nak buat macamana kan, perdana menteri anggap jadi petani ni tak boleh cari makan.
X semesti kemajuan tu kereta shj...kemajuan dlm tangkapan ikan...kemajuan dlm pertanian...kemajuan perubatan...semua tu ada guna jentera...jgn fokus kereta shj...hndphone pun demand tinggi...
Terbaik dan paling baik..idea Tun mmg bernas dan berwawasan ke hadapan..bkn utk penuh kan poket sendiri dan beratkan leher bini...semua utk rakyat.jgn pandang Jepun n Korea....pandang pd india..buat kereta utk kegunaan Rakyat..otak Tun terbaik...tabik Tun
Mari jadi petani dan nelayan., aku rase tu pilihan yang bijak dan terbaik masa kini. Sejak ada wabak industri pengeluaran tidak sekencang dahulu, harga petroleum mula jatuh, bekalan beras dah x cukup terpaksa import dari india. Sekarang nie industri asas tani lebih penting dari produk pengeluaran
Banyakan dan tumpukan pendidikan sains dan engineering . Terlalu banyak ulamak kelentong bikin terlalu ramai Melayu mundur di bidang ini jauh hingga ada ketahab haramkan pemikiran sains. Visi Tun terbaik sekali tumpu industri buatan sendiri.
Charlie Zahari🙄mmg rmai ulamak2 sial skrg kt Malaysia. mereka mhasut anak2 plajar melayu dr blajar sains dan teknologi sbab itu dia kata rancangan org kafir kita islam jgn ikut. apa nk jadi mereka dah bsr nati bila dah tmakan hasutan tsebut.. lihat saja ceramah2 skrg suka mprendahkn kaum2 lain.. mbanding2 kan agama2 lain x baik. ulamak2 seperti ini mnanam kebencian dlm pmikiran anak muda skrg dr hidup aman damai bsama. knapa kita x fokus saja mslh kehidupan kita yg ada skrg. drpd kita asyik mpesenda dan mcari slh agama kaum2 yg lain..🙄🤔
I don't know much about politics, eco, and so on but I agree that we always love to buy other country's product rather than making one and we proud having their product. I don't know anything about engineering but I'm specialized in Art and Design in Digital Graphic skill, so I plan to produce my own product. I had to experience working condition first, then start my plan little by little. It's tough road, I may be cannot further it but we need to keep trying like the Japanese. Sikit2 lama2 jdi bukit. We have to take risk to be successful, we can become like Japan if we work hard enough. I always stand by Tun's side, he has great envision of future.
marilah kita sama2 menjadikan negara ini sebagai negara pegeluar...baru lah kita akan dipandang dunia sebagai sebuah negara yg bertaraf sama kedudukan dengan negara maju dan dengan cara kita sendiri....betul lah apa yg tun ucapkan ini
Malaysia perlu ada jenama kereta sendiri tanpa perlu kepakaran dari luar dengan adanya pemindahan teknologi dan pekerja yang mahir melalui latihan yang diberi dengan kerjasama syarikat kereta yang terkenal.Begitu juga dengan ada pemindahan teknologi kita boleh mewujudkan byk peluang pekerjaan kepada rakyat kita sendiri bukannya kepada rakyat asing....
(My second opinion) As a non supporter of PH, i agree with Tun about this. Selain daripada isu Proton masih belum kukuh apabila kereta import diberi peluang besar untuk dipasarkn di Malaysia, pada saya ini juga isu aliran keluar wang tunai (keuntungan) ke luar negara. Warga asing PATI/PADI datang ke Malaysia untuk mencari duit/nafkah. Berjuta, malah mungkin berbilion ringgit di kirim ke negara asal setiap bulan. Sama juga dengan kereta import, keuntungan bukan di simpan di Malaysia. Keuntungan akan dikirim ke negara asal syarikat atau mungkin ke akaun offshore (elak mana2 negara kenakan cukai). Jika proton, segala keuntungan masih circulate dalam Malaysia, cukai yg Proton bayar akan digunakan untuk membangunkn negara. Cuma saya kurang jelas mengapa bukan Proton tapi kereta keTiga negara. Mungkin ada kaitan dgn isu banyak saham Proton dijual ke syarikat China dahulu.
As a non supporter of PH, i agree with Tun about this. Many people says imported cars are better than proton, yes it is true. Since there are not enough domestic market protection for proton, how will Proton able to get enough profit to be able to make better cars. When medium income family buy imported cars, Proton can only invest in low cost, less reliable car for low income people. But not all imported cars are reliable. Sentiments that all imported car is good is very strong, this is very absurd.
That's right Tun...Let's do it Tun...we know Malaysia is slow...it's okay...we may be slow at the first...but we will be fast in the future...come on Tun...let's Tun
Malaysia is slow and not smart enough. We should move forward faster and learn to be smarter. We are too much lag behind. Please all fellow Malaysian, don't be lazy and greedy. We must work harder and smarter to achieve better nation.
As a Malay, I think we should co-operate with chinese and other races because they are very competent in doing work. Instead of enraged about racial issue and right, we should learn from others to become better as well. This is the problem Malay had because of their close and narrow minded thinking. If Malays were like Tun M, we would become like Japan already.
matthe ai I agree, things had changed. It is no longer the same as before, people should realize this and we should look to the future, not the past. This is what BN/UMNO had instilled on Malays. Unfortunately, it will not be solve if people still keep their arrogance. Malays always think that they are so good but eventually not, they always blame other races although it is their incompetence were at fault. I always envy and jealous toward Japanese on how they can build such society and economy.
Betul jugak kata tun..kita harus membangun indusri kereta buatan malaysia..tapi klau semua nk jadi jurutera..sapa nk tanam padi..sapa nk tangkap ikan utk rakyat kita mkn..kenapa subsidi baja padi d tarik balik..bantuan utk para nelayan pun dah takde sekarang..
The PM might want to consider changing patent laws allowing patent owners a lifetime ownership. This will encourage inventors to come to Malaysia to file their patent ideas in Malaysia because of the lifetime ownership of the patent laws and encourage the inventor to build the prototype in Malaysia.
I'm not big supporter of Tun M before but now I see some great differences compared of who he was then. Very sharp views despite his 93 year old physique. Malaysians have made a precise decision in 14th general election. Let's keep our fingers crossed for a better Malaysia.
Itulah bezanya pandangan negarawan ulung dengan pemimpin ala seniman yg berlakun mengikut keriawan lorong. Hanya jauhari mengenali mankim... Sebab itu pentadbiran Tun DAPAT bertahan. Beliau sentiasa berfikir untuk berada dihadapan dalam menjadikan impian Suatu. realiti. Hanya orang yang sombong diri dan Malpas Sahaja yg tidak menyenangi beliau. Mereka yg percaya diri sentiasa merindui sentuhan beliau untuk TERUS mencipta bagi kebaikan semua.
Baguih jugak cadangan Tun ni ya...marilah kita jadi petani dan nelayan...hakikatnya kita masih lagi mengimport makanan untuk keperluan negara kita....boleh lah kita sama-sama menyumbang untuk mengurangkan import negara...."marilah mari, jadi petani, jadi nelayan, jangan lupa kewajipan pada negara".....
In automotive industry require from mechanical, electrical, chemical, computer, and all sorts of engineering. We produce thousands of graduates every year and automotive industry should be able to employ most of them. Now, engineering grad have to becomw cook for survival.
There is nothing wrong with the plan or the vision.. it's about execution. That's where Proton has failed despite being over 30 years in the business. After 30 years, the only engineering Proton can lay claim to now is changing the bumper and re-badging outdated Japanese models.
Kalau aku dah lama aku mulakan "Aviation Industry" drp buat industri kereta yg lagi sekali nak jemput jepun melabur. Satu kapal terbang harga 600 juta pastu boleh buat jet untuk military service. Drp aku buat partnership, baik aku buat sendiri slow2. Kalau sekalipun aku tak boleh nak lawan dominasi airbus dgn boeing at least, air asia boleh beli pesawat tempatan untuk pasaran asean and tak perlu lagi asyik nak hutang beli pesawat baru setiap 10 tahun. Duit negara bazir byk2 utk buat sovereign fund sampai berbillion- billion buat apa?.Baik buat pelaburan tempatan, beli machine, bayar upah kepakaran, beri geran research. Kau bukak tender untuk beli machine je pun senang2 org boleh dapatkan.Tak kisahlah ambil masa berpuluh puluh tahun pun. Tapi drp asyik nak buat industri kereta je tak habis2, kereta takde kualiti pun. Haha...baik kau buat benda baru, kepakaran dlm engineering pun berkembang. Madey punya perangai salahkan org padahal kereta jepun berlambak2 kat malaysia ni bukan madey punya idea ke? Tak mampu ke nak tandingi kereta jepun? Masalah kat design dengan engine je. Fabrik dalaman kenderaan pun Malaysia boleh hasilkan yg terbaik. Itu semua kerja dlm komputer je, tapi aku tak faham apa kena mengena industri kereta ketiga dpt menjana kemahiran kejuruteraan yg lebih mantap. Kelakar betul otak madey. Kalau nak memperbanyakkan jenama, kau suruh je Proton masuk segmen baru mcm Toyota wujudkan Lexus,Honda wujudkan Acura. Lawak lah semua nak kena tiru Jepun. Negara kecik mcm Malaysia ni, aku ada satu brand je pun dah cukup. Aku cuma aim 10 model berkualiti. Kau nak design enjin paling bagus di dunia ni without cost,kerja dlm komputer je. Hanya perlukan engineer yg bagus je. Benda memang dah dlm genggaman, pergi habiskan duit rakyat buat benda2 bodoh. Pastu cakap rakyat bodoh.
Harap2 kete nasional ke 3 dpt dilaksanakan... Ramai fresh grad kat luar sana tertunggu tunggu nk jadi engineer automotif... Xkan nk tunggu Ferarri bagi tawaran keje kot... Sebut pasal industri, tolak la soal jenama... Mahal ke murah ke, kete nasional dpd kejuruteraan tempatan mesti kene ade... Bukan jurutera, mcm2 lapangan keje boleh ade jika ade kete nasional ke 3, designer, mechanic, technologist, bisnes dan mcm2 lagi
Kalau nak buat kereta, pastikan kualiti dijaga dan harga mampu milik, bukan kualiti tak dak, harga mengalahkan kereta import, china lain, kebanyakkan barang yang dikeluarkan hanya untuk pakai buang, dan harga berpatutan dengan kualiti yang dikeluarkan..
Apa beza Proton dahulu zaman TDM dan yang nak TDM buat sekarang ? Takde vendor kroni? Takde quota ? Naik pangkat ikut meritokrasi? Takde budaya meniru? Takde taktik pinjam enjin orang lain? Aluminium/keluli dan bahan mentah tak diimport jauh dari negara/tempat lain? Takde usahasama dengan pihak universiti tempatan dan biasiswa kejuruteraan untuk mereka yang benar benar berkebolehan untuk belajar dari yang tahu? CEO mesti orang PH? Pihak pengurusan mesti pak turut? Ahli politik dalam jawatan tinggi pengurusan dan direktor? Sales and servis tahap 90an? Teknologi enjin/kereta 90an?
Syabas Tun. You have your points.
Tun M..you are right..we need to be a producer not only a consumer..we hv plenty of professionals n intelligent ppl n graduates..there4 its wise to produce meantime to be able to make our msia manufacturers cars to enhance our economy too..
tun is a person with high vision. he is trying so hard to pass the massage out to the people. but sadly we the people never got it. that is why we are so far behind in anything and everything. this is the reality in malaysia. we are still not wise enough. the biggest failure is we can't be united as one is always bout races. malay say bersatu kita teguh bercerai kita roboh. we said it but do we practice it. together we can move mountains. Malaysia will be great again one day. but do that day will come this is all in the hand of the people of malaysia.
I think we as the future generations should be better than the previous...Enough of figthing for one race and lets strive to achieve success as Malaysians... We are more diverse than ever before, lets use this advantage and help each other
😂😂😂 "...but Malaysians, oh, we are great believers of globalisation. We open up to everybody...and we are poor..."
Tun M knows how to make his points hit home. That's why he is the BEST Malaysian statesman right up there with Tun Abdul Rahman.
Long live, Tun..! 💪👍👏
saya rasa ramai student kejuruteraan akan sokong cadangan Ini. peluang pekerjaan kepada ramai graduasi. banyak syarikat yang akan buat car compartment. boleh wujud industri latihan. macam macam boleh wujud kalau cadangan Ini terlaksana.
Terbaik tun.... sebab tulah rakyat sygkan tun... sebab mentaliti tun... ke arah kebaikan dan kemajuan negara malaysia,malaysia bertuah mempunyai pemimpin seperti tun
Good Leadership involve identifying the NEW trend of industries & market movement and NOT just blind sincerity and same old 80s/90s work plan.
IF CAR industries still PROFITABLE, WHY Australia(HOLDEN) & Plenty of other Car brands(Jaguar/volvo/Range Rover/....) SOLD OF to INDIAN and China company??
Pesanan ni patut sampai ke dalam TV3 or semua TV in malaysia! Patut jadi iklan secara tak langsung! Most of Tun Spoke is Inspiring! Moving forward for Better Malaysia!!! #SayangiMalaysiaKu
Buat je tun. Xramai faham kebaikkan industry & engineering.
Betul tu. Naikkan kembali sektor perkilangan. Dulu org kerja kilang masyuk dgn bonus
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Poodah,, kelmarin tak setuju dgn Geely,, skrg jilat kembali,, dah gah pakatan haprak nenipu janji.
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Ada masa bp tahun lg utk pru?
Haaa
Jd org matang. Dlm masa itu jika tdk terlaksana kita blh ubah balik kerajaan.
Tolak ketepi ego tu.
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Komen ko menunjukkan ko dungu!
Tun adalah Bapak Proton. Dia yang cipta proton untuk bangunkan rakyat Malaysia.
Cuba ko duduk tempat dia, apa ko rasa bila proton kena jual? Ada sebab dia marah tindakan menjual proton.
Bila dia jadi PM, pertimbangan untuk beli balik proton adalah pertimbangan berat kerana akan mengadap banyak pendapat/bantahan rakyat.
Jadi Tun kena lebih cerdik untuk deal yang lebih manfaat.
Disini Tun bukan U-Turn tetapi menunjukkan dia lebih bijak berurusniaga.
Orang bodoh macam ko susah nak faham benda macam ni.
Takkan sebab tak setuju penjualan proton, kena abaikan terus proton?
Sedangkan terdapat ramai vendor dari kalangan bangsa melayu, pekerja melayu.
Benda macam ni pun ko tak akan mampu fikir.
Tapi Tun berfikir akan kepentingan ini semua. Sebab tu dia ambik tanggungjawab untuk rundingan yang lebih baik. Bukan jilat ludah.. tapi PENAMBAHBAIKAN.
Sekali lagi orang bodoh macam ko tak akan terfikir benda ni.
Malaysia perlukan pemimpin yang hebat untuk jadi ketua.
Biar KETUA itu tinggi angan-angan untuk mencapai bulan.
Tetapi jika anak buahnya semua sebodoh ko pun, ketua tadi tetap tak akan kemana-mana. Buka la fikiran tu biar luas pandangan. Jangan sampai bodoh seumur hidup.
Hairudin...Betul tu...Tun M nak industri pembuatan berkembang...Korea Selatan ada Hyundai, KIA, Daewoo dan SsangYong...Negara Korea Selatan sama je dgn Malaysia.
Terbaik Tun. Ini macam la 👍🏻
This is why no-one can replace Tun M.. his point of view to bring Malaysian people into a world of success and own will power... Great Leader Tun M.. We love u...
We can have high aspirations to develop engineering etc but often fail to address human attributes like discipline, working hard, steadfast, upright, honesty, integrity, corruption and greed. The list goes on..if people are lazy, seeking instant gratification all the time, you can have the best vision but be no where near to achieving it.
Yeah, so the main problem is education. If we don't reach high standard of education, we won't be having good society like the Japanese. I think the gov should focus more on education because it shapes the society, mind and thinking.
Agreed. Thanks Tun. You are such briliant person.
Masya Allah, meski usia sudah 93 tahun, tapi pemikiran tun masih sangat tajam. Salam dari Indonesia 🙏
Tun, go ahead with Proton 2.0. as long as u don't force the rakyat to consume an expensive sub standard product.
Not that I am pouring cold water, firstly we must know what kind of work mentality & attitude our people have to produce another Proton 2.0 Be more realistic.
Sounded LIKE IT WILL BE Engineering Project(Sounded like SUB Standard) and for ANOTHER 100 years!!!
Come on Tun, just face it, what is the reason of failure at Proton ??? And on MALAYSIA economy strategy too..
M.JACKSON once said before : PLS DON'T WASTE TIMES BEING COLOUR.
Peace all 🙏🙏🙏
I think you're more interested to be a farmer and buy the car from overseas. XD
Phones? Ppl buy a lot of phones too!! How about television?
What about not having a national but just be a production hub! But wait, Thailand got there before us because of? Hahaha...
Tun, you're a great leader, no doubt but pls accord us some respect. If you can review and tell us what went wrong with Proton and how the next venture would need to fix a b c and d, perhaps the ppl are more open to the idea..
Hyundai doesn't sell as many in S Korea.. most of their sales are overseas.. they paired up with Kia and the Koreans let go of Daewoo..
Hyundai Kia appreciates foreign talent as these are needed to expedite the development. All you did was trusted Tengku Mahaleel whom ended up hijacking your dream and made it a nightmare for the honest folks who can only afford to buy Proton and took a 9 yr loan to pay the govt taxes!
Who does that?! Does Koreans take loans to fund their govt and car companies? What about the Germans?! Or the Japanese?
I agreed with Tun M we start from car engineering produce spare parts even we can produce parts of trucks n others for future make it asean market competition with Europe
Indeed he was the best PM Malaysia ever have. Very smart person with clear vision.
Yes Tun u are right, after u left Pak lah instead of nurturing proton started issuing thoudands of AP's to import foreign cars. Theres a NAZA assembly plant at Kepala Batas(his contituency). Najib came n he says what the hell lets make some money ,sell proton. The oppositions during yr time were a bunch of jerks too. They keep saying it was a waste of money,white elephant, it will not succeed n so on. They were a bunch of idiots who do not know when to oppose n when to support. As a result the raakyat looses. Despite all odds proton still managed to persevere thats why they still produce cars up to this day one model after another, exora,pesona,gen2preve...even the first model saga 30overs yrs u can still find on the road. All I can say is theres alot of bad hearted people in malaysia who do not want to see us succeed.Proton is not only yr legacy Tun ,its ours too.
Malaysian ppl should support and proud to used our own car.
Agreed. Taking Proton as an example, it is a reflection of our nation’s success/failure.. if everyone is supporting the idea of making our nation a developed one, they would in any way try to make it work. But if they keep opposing to this idea, then we’ll not go far. And proton will always be seen a waste and a failure. We should learn from japan, s.korea and China on how they managed to make their country successful and better.
Kesilapan proton ialah tidak mampu mencipta enjin buatan sendiri dan bergantung pada enjin buatan pengeluar...
kita hanya pandai mengubah suai (design) kereta tetapi bila masuk teknologi elektronik n kejuruteraan ... semua dari pengeluar lain
Belajar susah-2 kejuruteraan sampai 3,4 tahun boleh yg capai 7 tahun pun Ada kalau ambik ijazah ,tapi Bila keluar gaji tak macam pecah kepala otak jawap exam ..tapi bersyukurnyaa tun nak perkasakan indutsri kejuruteraan ,thanks tun .. #voteyoungpeople
Proton did create its own engine la, so did Petronas.
bukan campro malaysia ke?
woi bila masa plak proton tak mampu cipta enjin sendiri. get your facts right. campro & variasi2 selepasnya semuanya lukisan tangan anak tempatan. suka-suka je cakap orang malaysia tak mampu buat enjin sendiri.
Gunakan lah kebijaksanaan beliau sementara masih ada,kalau Tak terbukak kepala otak jugak tak tahulah nak kata apa..
Subahanallah ...!!! Tun brilliant!
Wauuuu...how great the ideas...very good thank you very much Tun M.
Dia ckp laju penuh konfiden penuh mksud dn cekap.hebat tun.x mcm jibby.lain tanya lain jwb.
Ana Law AZETO isu air di selangor lebih kritikal
Tak hebat mana pun. Pemikiran Madey ni dah ketinggalan zaman.
macam bapak ko najib hanya tahu cakap , i dont know i dont know .
@matthe ai ya btul tu.
@matthe ai setuju
Yg mulia semg sehat sellu yg mulia
GOD bless you
Amen HALLELUJAH
Sy tak tau rakyat fikir apa.tp sy salute tun.sy bljr sesuatu dr kilang jepun.mmg kita blh belajar.tgk tun kata rugi pun tak apa tp dy nak anak cucu belajar sesuatu.
Ada pepatah Melayu panggil, yang dikejar tak dapat, yang dikendong berciciran.
Time dia jadi PM-4, kononnya nak jadikan Malaysia negara perindustrian. Budget, polisi Malaysia semua tukar ke arah tu. Buat lagi Proton, tak cukup, buat pulak Perodua. Malaysia yang kaya dengan hasil bumi ni, yang macam2 pokok boleh ditanam, tak diberi perhatian.
Fast-forward sampai sekarang. Bila dibandingkan dengan Thailand, Indonesia.... Malaysia masih ketinggalan jugak dalam industri automotif. Low Cost labour, semua ke China.
Pertanian? Malaysia masih lagi mengimport hasil tani dari negara jiran, terutamanya Thailand. Ayam import, lembu import, sayur import.
Yang dirancang tak menjadi, yang tak dirancang sudah tentulah tak menjadi jugak!!
Apa yang kita nak buat sekarang? Sekarang kita nak buat kereta nasional ketiga.
Nak buat macamana kan, perdana menteri anggap jadi petani ni tak boleh cari makan.
lokman dengar tu, takde kerja pergi menoreh,bawa pak jib n kak mah, berjasa pada bumi sikit
Hadi awang minat jd nelayan
Kahkahkah...
Berhutang beli kereta. Nak beli ikan pun pakai personal loan.
*kOmen yG ni cAntik skali..* 😉
ruddP engaraian sekurang 2nya tahlah hari 2 bercakap pitna ckap kotor merasa diri baik tapi dia jilat apa yg dia ckap dulu dulu malulah
Jadi bisness keluarga pulak dato ni..kelentong nk bantu negara padahal nk bina legasi bisness keluarga
Padu..semangat dia sungguh tinggit..tu bangsa malaysia..tapi rakyat masih tggu dah lihat.malas yg control kita.sebab dah selesa hidup
X semesti kemajuan tu kereta shj...kemajuan dlm tangkapan ikan...kemajuan dlm pertanian...kemajuan perubatan...semua tu ada guna jentera...jgn fokus kereta shj...hndphone pun demand tinggi...
Yes. Lagi memudahkan pekerjaan.
syabas tun perjuang industeri malaysia yang terulung
Terbaik dan paling baik..idea Tun mmg bernas dan berwawasan ke hadapan..bkn utk penuh kan poket sendiri dan beratkan leher bini...semua utk rakyat.jgn pandang Jepun n Korea....pandang pd india..buat kereta utk kegunaan Rakyat..otak Tun terbaik...tabik Tun
Ya Allah..with the age of 93 dr M still has great mind n vision...great ideas n thoughts...this is really a great gift from Allah to all malaysians...
Well said and very good points there.. tun is preparing his people to be a better n developed nation.. unfortunately not many people see that..
Agreed with Tun .
Cadangan tun terbaik i love it
Although he is a medical doctor he knows a lot of economics
Mari jadi petani dan nelayan., aku rase tu pilihan yang bijak dan terbaik masa kini. Sejak ada wabak industri pengeluaran tidak sekencang dahulu, harga petroleum mula jatuh, bekalan beras dah x cukup terpaksa import dari india. Sekarang nie industri asas tani lebih penting dari produk pengeluaran
Banyakan dan tumpukan pendidikan sains dan engineering . Terlalu banyak ulamak kelentong bikin terlalu ramai Melayu mundur di bidang ini jauh hingga ada ketahab haramkan pemikiran sains. Visi Tun terbaik sekali tumpu industri buatan sendiri.
Charlie Zahari🙄mmg rmai ulamak2 sial skrg kt Malaysia. mereka mhasut anak2 plajar melayu dr blajar sains dan teknologi sbab itu dia kata rancangan org kafir kita islam jgn ikut. apa nk jadi mereka dah bsr nati bila dah tmakan hasutan tsebut.. lihat saja ceramah2 skrg suka mprendahkn kaum2 lain.. mbanding2 kan agama2 lain x baik. ulamak2 seperti ini mnanam kebencian dlm pmikiran anak muda skrg dr hidup aman damai bsama. knapa kita x fokus saja mslh kehidupan kita yg ada skrg. drpd kita asyik mpesenda dan mcari slh agama kaum2 yg lain..🙄🤔
Mengarut mung
Hahahhaa so typical
Charlie Zahari ni lagi sorang gila hahajaja
Cicak ros ni lagi sorang gila kakkaakaka
VERY GOOD TUN M. MAY ALLAH BLESS YOU. WE LOVE YOU.👍👍👍👏👏
Tun betul.. Rakyat perlu la bijak.. Sedih dgn yg x fhm2
Noted Tun. I understand your point of view
cadangan tun ini sangat bagus untuk melahirkan ramai pelajar kejuruteraan automotif....sangat setuju
Classic explanation. A high minded person. Hats off.
Hidup Tun... Saya Support Tun M..Go on!!!
I don't know much about politics, eco, and so on but I agree that we always love to buy other country's product rather than making one and we proud having their product. I don't know anything about engineering but I'm specialized in Art and Design in Digital Graphic skill, so I plan to produce my own product. I had to experience working condition first, then start my plan little by little. It's tough road, I may be cannot further it but we need to keep trying like the Japanese. Sikit2 lama2 jdi bukit. We have to take risk to be successful, we can become like Japan if we work hard enough. I always stand by Tun's side, he has great envision of future.
yes i am agree with tun... .he is a very good vision... no one can thinking like him.. .
marilah kita sama2 menjadikan negara ini sebagai negara pegeluar...baru lah kita akan dipandang dunia sebagai sebuah negara yg bertaraf sama kedudukan dengan negara maju dan dengan cara kita sendiri....betul lah apa yg tun ucapkan ini
Kenapa proton tak boleh berdikari seperti perodua? Perodua juga syarikat kereta malaysia..
Malaysia perlu ada jenama kereta sendiri tanpa perlu kepakaran dari luar dengan adanya pemindahan teknologi dan pekerja yang
mahir melalui latihan yang diberi dengan kerjasama syarikat kereta yang terkenal.Begitu juga dengan ada pemindahan teknologi kita boleh mewujudkan byk peluang pekerjaan kepada rakyat kita sendiri bukannya kepada rakyat asing....
Strategic thingker leader👍👍👍👍
love when you speak your mind!
Terbaik lah Tun...good Luck TUN....we love you so much Tun.....😘😘😘😘😍😍😍😍
semua orang pas and bn mahu rakyatnya jadi petai dan nelayan... sokong tun sepneuhnya !!
terbaik Tun..
The greatest thinking of tun M ..
(My second opinion)
As a non supporter of PH, i agree with Tun about this. Selain daripada isu Proton masih belum kukuh apabila kereta import diberi peluang besar untuk dipasarkn di Malaysia, pada saya ini juga isu aliran keluar wang tunai (keuntungan) ke luar negara. Warga asing PATI/PADI datang ke Malaysia untuk mencari duit/nafkah. Berjuta, malah mungkin berbilion ringgit di kirim ke negara asal setiap bulan. Sama juga dengan kereta import, keuntungan bukan di simpan di Malaysia. Keuntungan akan dikirim ke negara asal syarikat atau mungkin ke akaun offshore (elak mana2 negara kenakan cukai). Jika proton, segala keuntungan masih circulate dalam Malaysia, cukai yg Proton bayar akan digunakan untuk membangunkn negara. Cuma saya kurang jelas mengapa bukan Proton tapi kereta keTiga negara. Mungkin ada kaitan dgn isu banyak saham Proton dijual ke syarikat China dahulu.
Dr Mahathir is a good economist
a very knowledgable leader...
As a non supporter of PH, i agree with Tun about this. Many people says imported cars are better than proton, yes it is true. Since there are not enough domestic market protection for proton, how will Proton able to get enough profit to be able to make better cars. When medium income family buy imported cars, Proton can only invest in low cost, less reliable car for low income people. But not all imported cars are reliable. Sentiments that all imported car is good is very strong, this is very absurd.
That's right Tun...Let's do it Tun...we know Malaysia is slow...it's okay...we may be slow at the first...but we will be fast in the future...come on Tun...let's Tun
Respect Tun..Terbaik.
Wow..amazing Tun M..
Our Doctor in the house always be a doctor in everything including engineering view..
Malaysia is slow and not smart enough. We should move forward faster and learn to be smarter. We are too much lag behind. Please all fellow Malaysian, don't be lazy and greedy. We must work harder and smarter to achieve better nation.
As a Malay, I think we should co-operate with chinese and other races because they are very competent in doing work. Instead of enraged about racial issue and right, we should learn from others to become better as well. This is the problem Malay had because of their close and narrow minded thinking. If Malays were like Tun M, we would become like Japan already.
matthe ai I agree, things had changed. It is no longer the same as before, people should realize this and we should look to the future, not the past. This is what BN/UMNO had instilled on Malays. Unfortunately, it will not be solve if people still keep their arrogance. Malays always think that they are so good but eventually not, they always blame other races although it is their incompetence were at fault. I always envy and jealous toward Japanese on how they can build such society and economy.
Great leader
Betul jugak kata tun..kita harus membangun indusri kereta buatan malaysia..tapi klau semua nk jadi jurutera..sapa nk tanam padi..sapa nk tangkap ikan utk rakyat kita mkn..kenapa subsidi baja padi d tarik balik..bantuan utk para nelayan pun dah takde sekarang..
Tun do what is deemed necessary for the betterment of this country. You did it before and we are confident you can do it again. We have faith in you.
The PM might want to consider changing patent laws allowing patent owners a lifetime ownership. This will encourage inventors to come to Malaysia to file their patent ideas in Malaysia because of the lifetime ownership of the patent laws and encourage the inventor to build the prototype in Malaysia.
I'm not big supporter of Tun M before but now I see some great differences compared of who he was then. Very sharp views despite his 93 year old physique. Malaysians have made a precise decision in 14th general election. Let's keep our fingers crossed for a better Malaysia.
We will support Tun 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Tun have a valid point
Wow. A 93 year old person with such a vision. Thank you Tun.
Still eloquent speaker for a 93yr old!!💪💪
Itulah bezanya pandangan negarawan ulung dengan pemimpin ala seniman yg berlakun mengikut keriawan lorong. Hanya jauhari mengenali mankim... Sebab itu pentadbiran Tun DAPAT bertahan. Beliau sentiasa berfikir untuk berada dihadapan dalam menjadikan impian Suatu. realiti. Hanya orang yang sombong diri dan Malpas Sahaja yg tidak menyenangi beliau. Mereka yg percaya diri sentiasa merindui sentuhan beliau untuk TERUS mencipta bagi kebaikan semua.
Baguih jugak cadangan Tun ni ya...marilah kita jadi petani dan nelayan...hakikatnya kita masih lagi mengimport makanan untuk keperluan negara kita....boleh lah kita sama-sama menyumbang untuk mengurangkan import negara...."marilah mari, jadi petani, jadi nelayan, jangan lupa kewajipan pada negara".....
In automotive industry require from mechanical, electrical, chemical, computer, and all sorts of engineering. We produce thousands of graduates every year and automotive industry should be able to employ most of them. Now, engineering grad have to becomw cook for survival.
Before this i was against the idea of a new nasional car company but now i understand why..... This old man is not sinile yet.... Respect tun
His answer has merit...
Mana tau satu hari nanti negara kita akan buat semua jentera dari kecil sampai ke besar.semoga pemimpin akan dtg mewarisi pimpinannya.
Setuju takhabis2 nak beli barang luar negara tak penah nak produce kan sendiri
Good Aim Tun. My opinion executive or non executive must work and operating the all system production for the country not for their own gain.
This is a man that I will gladly follow
Jangan pandang rendah pada nelayan dan petani. Nanti kita nak makan apa.
Kalau dah undi big talker Awang, entah la apa akan terjadi.
Kompaq betul jawapan tun tentang industri kereta... bukan saja saja nak buat tapi ada sebab sebabnya.
Boleh tak masukkan dalam tv3 as ads so that malaysians can watch it. Suggestion only
There is nothing wrong with the plan or the vision.. it's about execution. That's where Proton has failed despite being over 30 years in the business. After 30 years, the only engineering Proton can lay claim to now is changing the bumper and re-badging outdated Japanese models.
You nail it Tun...,
Bukan rakyat tak nak..tapi peluang tu yang xde..
"SPOT ON" !!! THINK BEYOND MALAYSIANS !!!
Please do not repeat Proton mistake by subsidising crony heavily to produce low quality part and thus make huge profit .
Lebih baik meningkatkan R&D kualiti hasil pengeluaran makanan seperti negara Australia, Thailand, India dan lain - lain.
Brilliant Tun...
Who going to buy our cars?which country want to buy our car?as tun mention earlier 4000 parts..also enjine. From which country do we import?
inilah namanya "keutamaan diatas keUtamaan"...
Kalau aku dah lama aku mulakan "Aviation Industry" drp buat industri kereta yg lagi sekali nak jemput jepun melabur. Satu kapal terbang harga 600 juta pastu boleh buat jet untuk military service. Drp aku buat partnership, baik aku buat sendiri slow2. Kalau sekalipun aku tak boleh nak lawan dominasi airbus dgn boeing at least, air asia boleh beli pesawat tempatan untuk pasaran asean and tak perlu lagi asyik nak hutang beli pesawat baru setiap 10 tahun. Duit negara bazir byk2 utk buat sovereign fund sampai berbillion- billion buat apa?.Baik buat pelaburan tempatan, beli machine, bayar upah kepakaran, beri geran research. Kau bukak tender untuk beli machine je pun senang2 org boleh dapatkan.Tak kisahlah ambil masa berpuluh puluh tahun pun. Tapi drp asyik nak buat industri kereta je tak habis2, kereta takde kualiti pun. Haha...baik kau buat benda baru, kepakaran dlm engineering pun berkembang. Madey punya perangai salahkan org padahal kereta jepun berlambak2 kat malaysia ni bukan madey punya idea ke? Tak mampu ke nak tandingi kereta jepun? Masalah kat design dengan engine je. Fabrik dalaman kenderaan pun Malaysia boleh hasilkan yg terbaik. Itu semua kerja dlm komputer je, tapi aku tak faham apa kena mengena industri kereta ketiga dpt menjana kemahiran kejuruteraan yg lebih mantap. Kelakar betul otak madey. Kalau nak memperbanyakkan jenama, kau suruh je Proton masuk segmen baru mcm Toyota wujudkan Lexus,Honda wujudkan Acura. Lawak lah semua nak kena tiru Jepun. Negara kecik mcm Malaysia ni, aku ada satu brand je pun dah cukup. Aku cuma aim 10 model berkualiti. Kau nak design enjin paling bagus di dunia ni without cost,kerja dlm komputer je. Hanya perlukan engineer yg bagus je. Benda memang dah dlm genggaman, pergi habiskan duit rakyat buat benda2 bodoh. Pastu cakap rakyat bodoh.
Harap2 kete nasional ke 3 dpt dilaksanakan... Ramai fresh grad kat luar sana tertunggu tunggu nk jadi engineer automotif... Xkan nk tunggu Ferarri bagi tawaran keje kot... Sebut pasal industri, tolak la soal jenama... Mahal ke murah ke, kete nasional dpd kejuruteraan tempatan mesti kene ade... Bukan jurutera, mcm2 lapangan keje boleh ade jika ade kete nasional ke 3, designer, mechanic, technologist, bisnes dan mcm2 lagi
u see how this old man talk about business ,smart and progresif
Kalau nak buat kereta, pastikan kualiti dijaga dan harga mampu milik, bukan kualiti tak dak, harga mengalahkan kereta import, china lain, kebanyakkan barang yang dikeluarkan hanya untuk pakai buang, dan harga berpatutan dengan kualiti yang dikeluarkan..
Truth be told.
Apa beza Proton dahulu zaman TDM dan yang nak TDM buat sekarang ? Takde vendor kroni? Takde quota ? Naik pangkat ikut meritokrasi? Takde budaya meniru? Takde taktik pinjam enjin orang lain? Aluminium/keluli dan bahan mentah tak diimport jauh dari negara/tempat lain? Takde usahasama dengan pihak universiti tempatan dan biasiswa kejuruteraan untuk mereka yang benar benar berkebolehan untuk belajar dari yang tahu? CEO mesti orang PH? Pihak pengurusan mesti pak turut? Ahli politik dalam jawatan tinggi pengurusan dan direktor? Sales and servis tahap 90an? Teknologi enjin/kereta 90an?