[ENG SUB] Daigo discusses the difference between OLD and NEW fighting games
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- Опубликовано: 24 сен 2024
- Daigo has been playing and giving advice to young players a lot lately. In this session, he was playing with Nari-kun, one of the best Ibuki in Japan. Daigo gave advice to him before but Nari-kun was struggling even more today, so Daigo started analyzing why Nari-kun lost and somehow went back to talk about the difference between old and new fighting games. He was talking while playing so it might not be thought out well but I felt that this is really interesting and decided to translate this part. What do you guys think? do you agree with Daigo? let me know!
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That last topic, though. Daigo truly is Ryu in a world full of Kens.
Had daigo played akuma as much as tokido he'd be champion
8:06 "If you don't train until it's in your muscle memory, then yu can't really say that you've learned it."
"Normal people train until they get it right. Experts train until they can't get it wrong anymore." A quote I read a while ago. Don't even know where I read it but this reminds me of that.
Here you are fighting for your life and Daigo is dishing out history lessons
Damn, Ive been playing checkers while Daigo been playing 6D underwater mahjong all along
KevinOmsa Bonchan is the mahjong player Daigo plays super shogi.
“Players who are good at collecting knowledge win” - I notice this across the board with fighting games now...the more frame data i have memorized always puts me at 100x advantage from someone just trying to rush me down. They might be “faster” mentally but i pick apart their game plan by spotting obvious gaps or creating situations that bait them into over committing.
sure sounds like fun. spending more time looking up frame data and memorizing it for every move and matchup instead of just improving muscle memory and reactions by just playing. i'd rather get my ass handed to me in 1000+ matches by better players than spending hours watching boring youtubers making guides and going through spreadsheets.
@@DunklerMagier-qi6it Ken main?
I've been thinking the same as Daigo for a while now, "The level was lower back then". When you see footage of old games it seems like players were just fucking around, the stuff they did wasn't really optimized, or their punishes weren't as clean. Even when I watch some of my old replays back in 2009 I go "what the fuck was I doing?", feels pretty bizarre that maybe the legends weren't as legendary as we thought, not that I'm discrediting them or anything.
That's the kind of criticism that makes someone stronger. Harsh but fair.
It's why Japanese players learn much better than American. They understand that constructive criticism from another great player is the most helpful thing they can get. Americans seem to be angered by the thought of being questioned or corrected by another player. There's definitely a lack of ego that makes Asian players much more eager to learn.
Very wise, Wiener Person. Very wise.
I didn't get any sense of harshness, Umehara explained the weaknesses clearly without insults and in a calm tone of voice.
@sabishiihito It’s not about how he said it; it’s entirely about what he said. It’s the simple fact that they’re probably pretty raw truths to hear when you’ve already been trying really hard to claw your way to the top.
Just imagine pouring yourself into something to be a top-level competitor and you’ve been doing really well and you’re feeling really confident, and then a proven legend eyeballs your abilities and is just immediately like “Oh, I can see you have some clear shortcomings here, here, and here.” BRUTAL.
It’s practically a gift to have as keen an analyst as Daigo himself tell you his perspective on what exactly are your areas of weakness (because he’s just identified for you precisely what you need to work on to become even better!!)... but that’s noooo guarantee that hearing that shit won’t leave you feeling a bit gutted at the time.
@@deadfr0g There's nothing brutal about pointing out one's flaws when done tactfully and it's obvious the reason is to help you improve. If he were just tearing him down that would be one thing. This was all positive, *constructive* criticism.
He's right about knowledge, it's what makes the game less accessible. The slower pacing means the game heavily revolves around knowing wha'ts punishable, and how to optimally take advantage of conversions in neutral from various spaces. I think that's the problem with fighting games; they're knowledge-heavy, and this knowledge cannot be learnt through experience alone, it requires going into training mode and setting up specific situations.
Hey hope your channel gets more traction! FGC Translated's cool, but I really like the content you choose to translate, how there's little down time in the video, and how it's cohesive
Thank you!
9:49 geez louise... and we’re NOT supposed to idolize Daigo-san as the real-life version of Ryu?????
"All I really want to do is to play with strong people"
You're right, he is Ryu!
Tenshi Cat he doesnt value tournaments at all, either???? it’s literally Ryu’s ending from Street Fighter 2, where he doesnt stay for the tournament’s prize-awarding ceremony because he doesnt care about his 1st place trophy, he only attended the tournament because he knew there would not only be strong opponents, but strong opponents at the top of their game bringing out all their secret tech!!!
Just watching this and listening to Daigo makes me stronger as a player. Thank you!
DAIGO’S EXPLANATION OF OLD VS MODERN FGS IS EVEN MORE TRUE TODAY
Core-A Gaming's most recent video is about a similar topic of juggling the parts of a fighting game you know instantly and the ones you have to actively making decisions on.
this is so true!
I used to play almost all fighting games and good at all of them.
Now i still buy all FTGs but can only focus on sfv
So many truths, it hurts!!!
This video thumbnail is borderline Jackie Chan in Fists of Fire material.
Awesome.
Thanks for translating this! Cool back and forth to be a fly on the wall for
Daigo's main lesson is basically the adage "You get worse before you get better."
It's a good adage.
Fantastic video!!
"you're trying to do new things so decision speed is slower" wise words from Umehara-san
Me who makes no decisions at all: lalalalalala, why can't I get past Super Bronze!?
If you learn the basic fundamentals (especially how to anti-air) you can definitely make it out of bronze.
Awesome chapter
bruh did u like upload using the wrong account ?
Daniel See I’m not fgctranslate 🤣
@@HiFightTH that's what fgc translated would say
@@malaiahmad3607 The video content and translation style is different from FGC Translated even if on paper it seems similar since it's translating Daigo's recent stream shenanigans
Fuckn hell Daigo destroyed that guy with words in the beginning lmao
Daigo is kinda savage, imagine being told you are slow and that Nuki sucks....ouch
I think he is trying to say that he was slow because he's trying to do new things, when you do new things you are doing what's is called slow thinking (core a gaming have a video about that you should check it out) and old games are more about reaction timing, and the new ones are active thinking about what to do next.
HIfight do you translate all of this?
D.J. Stephens yes
@@HiFightTH godlike
daigo lowkey playing alpha 3 when no ones watching
Fantastic
Very very nice,More more more pls
Really hope his hater and people that troll about him see this video......not everything need to be winning tournaments...
Daigo is my favorite Chinese player.
he is Japanese
you say on purpose
I know spanish people are natural racist, But you guys just look like Mexicans you guys have same face.
Mr,jose antonio taco rodoriguez manuel burrito gonzales.
in reality he does not want to win .he would rather become a tutour to the younger generation but...they dont respect him so he has to play thats what hes saying to this clown kid in this and the other video
The worst incoherent art style since SFII.
Fantastic