+John Heisz Me too, as I saw that idea I started thinking if it would be possible to harvest some energy from the turning rollerblade wheel? Probably not that much (though it depends on the usage of disc sander) but it's an interesting thought.
Great build Marius! I'm a dedicated viewer of your videos here. You have a way of simplifying a great many things that would prove to be problematic for some. I'm happy you are here as a contributor of your ideas and totally stoked by some of your projects. I've recently been thinking about purchasing a 12" "stand-alone" sander; I thoroughly intend to build my own now, after watching these two videos. Even at my age (61) and experience level, I find your videos fantastic and useful all the time. Anytime there is room for improvement or even equality at a lower cost is a good thing, especially with the prices of some equipment these days! I suspect that foreign costs can be quite a lot more than here in the states for many items. Thanks bunches. Foyal.
Great project! I can always watch your videos to the end without getting bored. I have watched many other disk sander builds but none with such wonderful story telling. Keep the great content coming!
Wonderful. Videos in two parts. It is more interesting and helpful for me, as i am planning to build my own 12" disc sander for my shop. You are my son's age, proving that Child is the Teacher of a Man! God Bless.
Using the pulleys reduces the rpm of the sanding disc. I think this construction works much safer than mounting the disc directly to the motor. Really nice and clever!
Excellent job Marius. To clean the sandpaper try running a piece of hose pipe, plastic pipe, or better still the crepe sole of an old shoe against it. It pulls all the embedded dust out.
Nice. I'm currently using a worn out diamond disk from my tile cutter mounted in my table saw with a sanding disk stuck to it. It's been working great, but having to change the blade any time I want to use it sucks.
Marius, Having had to dampen vibrations many times, I've discovered that using rubber between the motor mounts and the wood, and between the sander base and table you can greatly reduce (if not eliminate) vibration as well as perceived vibrations. A good source of rubber are old mouse pads and foam rubber floor mats.
Great project. Built one. Would only change one thing. Having that shroud on the left hand side is a pain as it gets in the way when trying to bend around that corner. That's probably why the store bought ones have nothing protruding past the disc on the left side.
If you place the disk in the freezer for a hour or two the PSA should be much easier to remove. The glue will get brittle and should break away from the disk as you pull. Every so often you may need to clean the disk too. Eventually some of the glue will build up. Try a small area first using lacquer thinner to see if it will dissolve.
I like this set up. I've been wanting to do this for a while now. I have an old table saw with a good motor in it that would work just fine. I saw where you used your scraper from your lathe to get a good circumference. I was wondering did you make this tool, or did you buy it. I can't tell, but I'm leaning toward you making it. You do good work young man, your mom and dad should be really proud of you, mark
Добавьте в описание параметры станка: мощность и обороты двигателя, диаметр и обороты (приблизительно) шлифовального диска Add a description of the parameters of the machine: the power and engine speed, diameter and speed (approx) sanding disk. I am sorry for my bad english, I'm using Google translator :) Mark Fisher, Kiev, Ukraine.
Motor: 600 Watt 2850rpm Disk: 30cm diameter 1400rpm (more on that in Part 2) Мотор: 600 Вт 2850rpm Диск: 30 см діаметр 1400rpm (докладніше про це в частині 2)
Marius Hornberger Спасибо за ответ, и за перевод :) Но Вы можете писать и на английском. Я использую браузер Гугл Хром, который переводит комментарии на русский или украинский языки :) Заходите на мой канал ruclips.net/user/AlfFisher Я выкладываю видео о столярке и самодельных приспособлениях. Канал русскоязычный, но последнее время я начал добавлять субтитры, которые можно перевести на английский - средствами Ютуб :) Thanks for the answer and for the translation :) But you can write in English. I use Google Chrome browser, which translates comments on Russian or Ukrainian languages :) Come to my channel ruclips.net/user/AlfFisher I post the video of joinery and improvised devices. Russian-language channel, but lately I've started to add subtitles, which can be translated into English - RUclips means :) Mark .
AlfFisher One of my grinders: ruclips.net/video/_XuhFDvbbb0/видео.html. ruclips.net/video/rT1tmio94Y4/видео.html ruclips.net/video/RvbR8s4ihE8/видео.html ruclips.net/video/-fDtb2iCTmk/видео.html I think it will be interesting :) Mark.
Marius, I really want to put something like this together but I am really struggling to find anything like the flange you have. What is it called exactly? Do you know where I might find one? Would really appreciate your help...
OK, thanks. I guess these can be replaced by dowel pins like your disc protection? On the other hand there is not a great need to shift paper very often...
Astreiner Aufbau, irgendwann muss ich sowas auch einmal bauen, leider kann ich nicht so gut mit Holz sondern eher mit Metall. Wie hoch ist die Lebenserwartung für eine Riemenscheibe aus Holz? Ich kenne es nur von Metall Scheiben die auch schon signifikant verschleissen (über Monate/Jahre).
Hmm, dazu kann ich dir leider noch nicht all zu viel sagen. Die beiden an meinem Walzenschleifer sind ca 1,5 Jahre alt und sind noch gut in Schuss. Die an meiner Bandsäge sind etwa 1 Jahr und das andere wegen neuem Motor 3 Monate alt. Ich glaube aber, dass die nicht so lange durchhalten wie die anderen, denn der Riemen rutscht beim starten immer etwas wegen des hohen Drehmoments des Motors beim anlaufen. Ich denk aber, dass wenn mal eins den Geist aufgibt, ich ein Video über den Wechsel machen werde.
Using the skate wheel is something I was thinking about in the one I’m going to build. I see you did this several years ago. How is it holding up? Do you still use this sander? I’ve drawn something very similar in concept.
The induction motor is a lot quieter and has a more consistent rpm and a little bit more power, because it runs always at full speed. To get the right rpm with the drill I could only run it at half speed, because full speed is 3000rpm on this drill and that's too fast for the disk.
I am just thinking about building the disc sander or wait for the combination-sander..... What can you recommand Marius? When will you present or even build the the sander? (I know you have a lot to do right now)
Einfach mal bei eBay Kleinanzeigen "drehen" oder "Dreherei" suchen und sich Angebote geben lassen.. Es gibt viele private Anbieter die solche Teile günstiger als gewerbliche machen, um sich etwas nebenbei zu verdienen.
+Marius Hornberger welcome to youtube where many people ask questions you're just about to answer or they just don't listen/look at the video carefully enough :D
Hhy didn't you attach the motor directly to the disc like commercial sanders do? Then you would not have any vibration And you cant test a bearing under NO LOAD that only means that there isn't any grease and the bearings will wear itself until it fails, not a good idea.
Obviously "no load" in this case means: "without sanding anything" or possibly, "with nothing touching the sanding disc itself that might produce drag", Oh, I apologize, I should have immediately recognized you were attempting some vague attempt at making a humorous remark. Have a great day!
Marius Hornberger Still looks like 80 grid on the video, but you placed it, so you are probably right. Nice vid btw. If I could buy one like this for 50€ on an auction, isn't that a better deal than having to buy all the materials? Motor, belt and shaft are not cheap.
LoverOfPhotography its way cheaper to buy one. if you even have to buy the Motor. If the sander You buy is Not good You take the parts and build yourself another one.
Um die Vibrationen zu minimieren solltest du den Riemen waagrecht oder Bus zu einem Winkel von bis zu 60 Grad zur waagrechten Aufbauen. Dabei solltest du aber darauf achten dass die Seite des Riementriebs die in drehrichtung des Motors vorher ist oben ist. Ps: der letzte Satz USt nicht perfekt formuliert wusste aber nicht besser wi Ich es erklären soll. Sehe dir am besten das unten verlinkte Bild an Link: www.tedata.com/uploads/pics/3k_10t_2_i05.gif
A lot of neat ideas in this one - I really like the idler wheel to support the disk.
Thank you!
+John Heisz Me too, as I saw that idea I started thinking if it would be possible to harvest some energy from the turning rollerblade wheel? Probably not that much (though it depends on the usage of disc sander) but it's an interesting thought.
Great build Marius! I'm a dedicated viewer of your videos here. You have a way of simplifying a great many things that would prove to be problematic for some. I'm happy you are here as a contributor of your ideas and totally stoked by some of your projects. I've recently been thinking about purchasing a 12" "stand-alone" sander; I thoroughly intend to build my own now, after watching these two videos. Even at my age (61) and experience level, I find your videos fantastic and useful all the time.
Anytime there is room for improvement or even equality at a lower cost is a good thing, especially with the prices of some equipment these days! I suspect that foreign costs can be quite a lot more than here in the states for many items. Thanks bunches. Foyal.
Great Video and without the need for music, how refreshing. Thanks.
Great project! I can always watch your videos to the end without getting bored. I have watched many other disk sander builds but none with such wonderful story telling. Keep the great content coming!
Wonderful. Videos in two parts. It is more interesting and helpful for me, as i am planning to build my own 12" disc sander for my shop. You are my son's age, proving that Child is the Teacher of a Man! God Bless.
Bakthavathsal Kadambi Thank you :)
I think it's really cool how a lot of you guys build your own tools . Pretty cool!
Thank you. "We guys" save a lot of money that way.
love your crativity and the ideas for fixing problems. nice job!
I'm behind in watching your videos but I'll be watching them all eventually. Great stuff!
Using the pulleys reduces the rpm of the sanding disc. I think this construction works much safer than mounting the disc directly to the motor. Really nice and clever!
TheLaudi That's not totally right. I would have mounted disk on the motor shaft, if I had a motor with the the right rpm.
Hi Marius. Seen a lot of disc sander videos but this one has interesting innovations. Even Captain John Heisz recogniszes it. Thanks and keep going !
Thank you!
Excellent job Marius. To clean the sandpaper try running a piece of hose pipe, plastic pipe, or better still the crepe sole of an old shoe against it. It pulls all the embedded dust out.
Thanks, but I know that and already have something better to clean sandpaper.
Marius Hornberger What do you use?
A big piece of rubber (4cm thick). Was a foot from a pylon.
Nice. I'm currently using a worn out diamond disk from my tile cutter mounted in my table saw with a sanding disk stuck to it. It's been working great, but having to change the blade any time I want to use it sucks.
You always have to be very carefull drilling holes in cyborgs ;)
Like your videos Marius, your german accent is only charming. Greetings from Denmark
Marius, Having had to dampen vibrations many times, I've discovered that using rubber between the motor mounts and the wood, and between the sander base and table you can greatly reduce (if not eliminate) vibration as well as perceived vibrations.
A good source of rubber are old mouse pads and foam rubber floor mats.
Thank you for your projects and your ideas... From a great follower in Brazil!!! Regards... Grüße...
Great project. Built one. Would only change one thing. Having that shroud on the left hand side is a pain as it gets in the way when trying to bend around that corner. That's probably why the store bought ones have nothing protruding past the disc on the left side.
+AndyB Yes, that's true. But If I need to sand something there, i just remove the cover to get clearance.
Marius Hornberger Ah. My cover is not removable. Time for a modification. Thanks.
Thanks for the tip with forstner bit and tear out!
Well done! I will be using your template to make one!
One clever man 👍👍👍
If you place the disk in the freezer for a hour or two the PSA should be much easier to remove. The glue will get brittle and should break away from the disk as you pull. Every so often you may need to clean the disk too. Eventually some of the glue will build up. Try a small area first using lacquer thinner to see if it will dissolve.
Nice and compact
wizard project,thanks.
very.....very nice....congratulations...... São Paulo - Capital - Brasil
very nice i like all your videos thanks
You must be Matthias Wandel 's hidden son ! I mean this as a compliment of course.
With how many rpm does the sandic disc turn? Thank you!
I like this set up. I've been wanting to do this for a while now. I have an old table saw with a good motor in it that would work just fine. I saw where you used your scraper from your lathe to get a good circumference. I was wondering did you make this tool, or did you buy it. I can't tell, but I'm leaning toward you making it. You do good work young man, your mom and dad should be really proud of you,
mark
+Mark Burgess I bought the tool, but made a new, longer and better handle for it.
Great vid, can you please tell me where I can get the mounting flanges. Thank you!
+grktycoon Nowhere, they were custom turned for me.
Добавьте в описание параметры станка: мощность и обороты двигателя, диаметр и обороты (приблизительно) шлифовального диска
Add a description of the parameters of the machine: the power and engine speed, diameter and speed (approx) sanding disk.
I am sorry for my bad english, I'm using Google translator :)
Mark Fisher, Kiev, Ukraine.
Motor: 600 Watt 2850rpm
Disk: 30cm diameter 1400rpm (more on that in Part 2)
Мотор: 600 Вт 2850rpm
Диск: 30 см діаметр 1400rpm (докладніше про це в частині 2)
Marius Hornberger Спасибо за ответ, и за перевод :) Но Вы можете писать и на английском.
Я использую браузер Гугл Хром, который переводит комментарии на русский или украинский языки :)
Заходите на мой канал ruclips.net/user/AlfFisher
Я выкладываю видео о столярке и самодельных приспособлениях.
Канал русскоязычный, но последнее время я начал добавлять субтитры, которые можно перевести на английский - средствами Ютуб :)
Thanks for the answer and for the translation :) But you can write in English.
I use Google Chrome browser, which translates comments on Russian or Ukrainian languages :)
Come to my channel ruclips.net/user/AlfFisher
I post the video of joinery and improvised devices.
Russian-language channel, but lately I've started to add subtitles, which can be translated into English - RUclips means :)
Mark .
AlfFisher One of my grinders:
ruclips.net/video/_XuhFDvbbb0/видео.html.
ruclips.net/video/rT1tmio94Y4/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/RvbR8s4ihE8/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/-fDtb2iCTmk/видео.html
I think it will be interesting :)
Mark.
AlfFisher
This is a grinder i.imgur.com/apyxXpJ.jpg
This is another grinder i.imgur.com/vXJiotx.jpg
This is a disc sander i.imgur.com/l4ldS.jpg
Marius, I really want to put something like this together but I am really struggling to find anything like the flange you have. What is it called exactly? Do you know where I might find one? Would really appreciate your help...
Nevets No, because my one was custom made and I didn't had to search for it. You could just mount it directly to a motor shaft.
Thank you.
I like the short belt. Too bad it was made for a table, and does not have its own table with the motor below and not above.
How fast does the motor spin?
2850rpm
Thanks for a great build. All very useful information.
Just a quick question for clarification...you must unscrew the table to change sand paper?
+Fredrik J Yes, you need to.
OK, thanks. I guess these can be replaced by dowel pins like your disc protection? On the other hand there is not a great need to shift paper very often...
Astreiner Aufbau, irgendwann muss ich sowas auch einmal bauen, leider kann ich nicht so gut mit Holz sondern eher mit Metall.
Wie hoch ist die Lebenserwartung für eine Riemenscheibe aus Holz?
Ich kenne es nur von Metall Scheiben die auch schon signifikant verschleissen (über Monate/Jahre).
Hmm, dazu kann ich dir leider noch nicht all zu viel sagen. Die beiden an meinem Walzenschleifer sind ca 1,5 Jahre alt und sind noch gut in Schuss. Die an meiner Bandsäge sind etwa 1 Jahr und das andere wegen neuem Motor 3 Monate alt. Ich glaube aber, dass die nicht so lange durchhalten wie die anderen, denn der Riemen rutscht beim starten immer etwas wegen des hohen Drehmoments des Motors beim anlaufen. Ich denk aber, dass wenn mal eins den Geist aufgibt, ich ein Video über den Wechsel machen werde.
That speed is suitable for a 30 cm diameter sanding disk.?
Could it serve as a washing machine motor?.
+alcabresamil 1000-1700 rpm on a 30cm disk should work fine.
Where can buy this motor?
ok, I've been trying to find the plans for your lifting table as well as some of your other creations but have not been successful. can you assist ?
why you have always had a roler blade wheel? where did you get those. is it sell individually?
you can buy them on amazon or in a sports shop. I just picked up a used pair of roller blades from a flee market for a few Euros.
hola muy buen trabajo me puedes decir el numero de grano de la lija gracias
Great work Marius.I really need to make one. I was just wondering could you not connect the motor directly to the disc?
Yes you can do that and that's also the common and simpler way, but my motor runs at 2850 rpm, and that is too fast for a disk of that size.
Marius Hornberger I thought that might be the reason Thanks.
Using the skate wheel is something I was thinking about in the one I’m going to build. I see you did this several years ago. How is it holding up? Do you still use this sander? I’ve drawn something very similar in concept.
It's perfect with that wheel
RPM ?
Where did you get that mounting flange. Thx.
he had a friend make it for him
Thx.
Hey..great video.
Did you change the motor only for thr play in the shaft? Or also because of the lack of power??
Regards from NL
Marcel
Marcel Smeets You mean using the motor instead of the drill?
Yes!. Because I was thinking to build a drill powered sander myself..
The induction motor is a lot quieter and has a more consistent rpm and a little bit more power, because it runs always at full speed.
To get the right rpm with the drill I could only run it at half speed, because full speed is 3000rpm on this drill and that's too fast for the disk.
Nice sander. Where did you get the self adhesive sanding disk?
Thanks. Here: www.holz-metall.info/shop1/artikel5898.htm
Thanks for you quick answer! The online shop looks very interesting.
I am just thinking about building the disc sander or wait for the combination-sander.....
What can you recommand Marius? When will you present or even build the the sander? (I know you have a lot to do right now)
build the disc sander. The other one has to wait a little longer.
Marius Hornberger Thanks for your quick answer ^^
Marius, great job !.
I want to build it myself!. You say the engine power ?. If you have plans, I can have them ?.
+Doc 951 600w motor. I don't have plans for it.
+Marius Hornberger However the videos are very clear. I will surely have no problems. Thanks to the availability
Does your friend sell those? Great project BTW.
+Julio Oliveira No, he doesn't.
+Marius Hornberger kein problem. Tack :)
+Marius Hornberger And happy new year from Sweden. :)
woher hast du den motor ?
+carl LED ebay
Hat jemand ne Idee wie ich mir die Aufhängung,die Marius sich drehen hat lassen,ich mir selber bauen kann, oder kann man sowas irgendwo billig kaufen?
Denke, dass du es von jemanden drehen lassen musst, werde ich auch müssen ^^
Einfach mal bei eBay Kleinanzeigen "drehen" oder "Dreherei" suchen und sich Angebote geben lassen.. Es gibt viele private Anbieter die solche Teile günstiger als gewerbliche machen, um sich etwas nebenbei zu verdienen.
Super Idee,danke!
Beautiful work, congratulations! Where did you find the flange?
... 0:40
+Marius Hornberger welcome to youtube where many people ask questions you're just about to answer or they just don't listen/look at the video carefully enough :D
Moin cooles Vid
You got 80 grit and not 60 like you are saying. Kapiche?
+pangrac1 well, look again. It says 60 if you look at the right number. I don't know what all the 80s mean. Kapiche? ;)
Thats pretty confusing!
Hhy didn't you attach the motor directly to the disc like commercial sanders do? Then you would not have any vibration
And you cant test a bearing under NO LOAD that only means that there isn't any grease and the bearings will wear itself until it fails, not a good idea.
The motor runs too fast.
Marius
The motor runs to fast and also no way to atach the flange with the motor
Obviously "no load" in this case means: "without sanding anything" or possibly, "with nothing touching the sanding disc itself that might produce drag", Oh, I apologize, I should have immediately recognized you were attempting some vague attempt at making a humorous remark. Have a great day!
4:49 Says 60 grid, turns it around and it says 80 grid.
+LoverOfPhotography no watch closer, it says 60 grit. Don't know why there are 80's.
Marius Hornberger Still looks like 80 grid on the video, but you placed it, so you are probably right. Nice vid btw. If I could buy one like this for 50€ on an auction, isn't that a better deal than having to buy all the materials? Motor, belt and shaft are not cheap.
I paid about 15€ for the parts +20€ for sandpaper.
LoverOfPhotography its way cheaper to buy one. if you even have to buy the Motor. If the sander You buy is Not good You take the parts and build yourself another one.
Marius Hornberger
At 4:53 you were talking about 60 grid while sticking 80 grid sandpaper to the disk.
Why do you have so many different cordless tools? Aren't the different batteries extremely annoying? I love my Makita 18V system ;).
Warum nicht in deutsch?
Um die Vibrationen zu minimieren solltest du den Riemen waagrecht oder Bus zu einem Winkel von bis zu 60 Grad zur waagrechten Aufbauen.
Dabei solltest du aber darauf achten dass die Seite des Riementriebs die in drehrichtung des Motors vorher ist oben ist.
Ps: der letzte Satz USt nicht perfekt formuliert wusste aber nicht besser wi Ich es erklären soll. Sehe dir am besten das unten verlinkte Bild an
Link: www.tedata.com/uploads/pics/3k_10t_2_i05.gif
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