Now I understand why the Apache has two pilots: two hands are not enough for all the controls. Also, thanks for sharing your insights. I am interested in seeing how the controls for the upcoming Apache module compare to the Ka-50. So far it looks very intriguing.
@@haramaschabrasir8662 The OH-6 regularly flew with just a pilot (read the book "Low Level Hell" by Hugh L. Mills Jr. for real life accounts). Also, there are several models used by the US military that have crews larger than 2 like the H-53 & H-60 series. Those can be armed and have taken part in front line combat operations. Thanks.
It's generally pretty difficult to fly a helicopter AND do stuff at the same time. Unlike in a plane, you usually have to have both of your hands on the cyclic and the collective all the time. Also, that's why usually the pilot occupies the right seat in a side-by-side seating arrangement. Of course, there are things like SAS, AP, force trim and so on that help with that, but in its essence a helicopter requires more focus while flying.
@@haramaschabrasir8662 But HOKUM has excellent autopilot systems to fly you hands free in all expect a rocket strafe. And when you have eyes outside, you are mainly using rockets, gun in HMS aiming mode or just searching air threats for R-73/IGLA-V. It is sad that we don't have proper contrast detection system in DCS as you could lock air threats with HMS as it will symbolize when you get a lock-on with Shkval - that would do so very effectively against such strong contrasts as you don't need to do more than have largest targeting gate and 7x or 23x depending distance to get target inside Shkval screen and system lock-on. Then just keep target inside Shkval gimbal limits. Now it is impossible as Shkval is not contrast based and you can't lock a aircraft even if it would be perfectly filling Shkval gate etc. In the state trials and combat tests it was confirmed that KA-50 was less demanding to fly and operate in combat than a single seater fighters. Why you don't need a second pilot/gunner to perform duties. But KA-50 couldn't enter to any export trials because every country required two-pilot attack helicopter. Why Kamov developed KA-50-2 for export use. The KA-52 was simultaneously developed with KA-50 but it was meant to be flight leader, with A-G radar, A-A radar and squadron leader designating targets for each KA-50 in flight. So 4+1 ratio where Sharks hunts and kills, while Alligator designates targets and control the group formation. That was more demanding as flight commander was to communicate with ground forces, the air defense HQ, nearby CAS planes and with flight itself. KA-50 is very capable with good group, but it suffers from DCS lack of datalink to HQ and proper communications with rest of the forces.
I remember during Bright Star in 1997 that the Egyptians were having big issues with breaking strap packs on their Apaches and were constantly replacing them(it's neither cheap nor easy because the whole head has to be taken apart to get just one out), and came to find out they were taxiing at ground idle requiring more collective input to get the required lift on the blades and this was over stressing the strap packs. I never did understand what they were thinking to accomplish with such a uninformed taxi method. I mean you could see it on the taxi, too, the cone angle on theirs were nuts compared to ours and it was like you were looking at the whole cordwise span of the blade while they were taxiing. If they had full power and did that the could quite possible "egg-beater" the blades, though I still think that is just an urban legend as in my years as a mechanic(both in and out) I have never seen it happen, though, in Kuwait during Desert Thunder I did see an 58D with two guys that were over 230 pounds take-off. It looked like those blades would egg-beater too, and it was funny because it kind bounded into the air like "booiiiinnng", and we thought for sure it was going to pancake.
@@CasmoTV So 'comes out in two weeks' I was under the impression we were going to be able to pre-order it from Feb, not 'comes out in two weeks' sounds like it's actually dropping very soon?
@@CasmoTV Ah! lol to be fair it's a good joke :D keep up with the great content, I look forward to learning as much about the Apache as I can before launch. thanks
Your channel has been awesome with all the up and coming apache hype. Really looking forward to your content and hopefully some great training and how to stuff when the Apache Drops. Consider me subscribed. Thanks
Great job of de-mystifying the Collective. So much valuable info in such a quick overview... All those buttons and hats distributed over MPDs, TEDAC and Cyclic/Collective sure are intimidating. 😇
Yeah it probably does come to think of it. I think the problem is that old timers get so set in their ways and they pass those on. I never used cruise mainly cause I was never shown what it was good for. I know from talking to some that basically the old transition mode didn’t have some of the data it does now and when that changed it kinda became pointless. Maybe the Echo will make cruise mode great again!
Is there a primary collective grip for flying? In terms of accurate placement of the collective on a sim rig, should the rear collective grip come to hand easier, the front grip, or should it be between the two?
@@CasmoTV I now realize that if I had watched your video all the way through, I would have noticed that you called the lower grip the flight grip. I also know that I always notice when people ask me a question in the comments that I covered in a video. So sorry for that :) I just received my Virpil AH-64 collective grip which has a 1:1 layout match with your image.
Hey Cosmo, you said you have separate video for TDAC but I can’t find it. You mentioned that here when start explaining about the collective buttons. Would you mind referring me to the TDAC video you talked about. Thanks
Excellent video, really informative. about the cyclic flare switch, i read somewhere that some apaches used that switch to scroll between the 4 manual dispense programs, gold, rfcm, etc. then you would use chaff dispense to release either flares or chaff depending on program selected. Or does it dispense flares directly bypassing the CMWS? I was wondering how it would be implemented in DCS since we don't have a clear picture of the cyclic yet.
@@connorhuchteman connections to specific ED staff... xD nevemind though, ED stated they will as usual release video-series of tutorials before Mi-24 release.
In regards to the chop button, kind of want someone to directly shoot my tail so I can push it and attempt an auto, to see if it helps. Just curiosity.
Yo Casmo, fan of the channel mate. Can you do something covering the TEDAC in detail (whatever detail you can)? Not sure if that's something already in the pipeline. Would be great to get an idea of how I might set up control bindings for that, thinking XBox controller with a Thrustmaster MFD panel glued to it! Cheers
Wait, so not only Apache pilots have independently rotating eyeballs, they also got three hands - one for cyclic, and two for the two-handed collective?
Great explanation. really like it.. quick one, so does the visor or the helmet is pitch dark so when you lower it down it helps you focus on the ihadss monocular better with out blinking the left eye 👁?.
@@CasmoTV thanks .. last question for the day ☺️, where is the Zoom-in Zoom-out button located ? , is it the round-shaped button on the top of collective stick 🤔 ?.
Why does MCG trigger duplicate Cursor Control Depress on the same exact grip? Is this for some reason? Which of two ways of cursor enter is used IRL mostly when you hold MCG?
Two weeks - on that high-gravity “Interstellar” planet. *docking music begins playing* Random internet troll: “Flying the Longbow in DCS is not possible.” Me: “No. It’s necessary.”
@CasmoTV have you already talked about how it will be to operate the bird as a single person and what it will take to make this a good experience in terms of AI and so on? This would be realy interesting.
The weapon switch being mapped to "Gun, Rocket, Hellfire and A2A Stinger". Is that implying.....that's all the Apache can carry? Or is modular in that whatever is loaded is selected based on hardpoint position? I ask as I was under the impression there was a hell of a lot more variety in ordnance than 4 hardwired options could cover.
@@CasmoTV *scratches head* Mavericks? Sidearms? Penguins? Helstreaks? Mistrals? Gun pods? The newest Apache "Guardian" is supposed to be able to control and even engage with it's own integrated UCAVs? I'm not saying it isn't accurate/realistic for it to only carry those 4 weapons. I'm speaking from the position of a simulation user, concerned about the lack of depth, diversity, and replay value in a module with such a narrow, fixed loadout when everything else in DCS has literal pages worth of various munitions, when said module will no doubt be the standard $60-$80+ that the much more diverse other airframes are charging.
@@CasmoTV And re: The first response, that's cool. I'm glad the switch is wired to select weapon /type/ rather than weapon /position/. Means you can load anything anywhere and never have to change your HOTAS muscle memory.
Well everyone wanted the Apache. (Not me). This is the Apache. Doesn’t carry those other weapons. Maybe ED will pull some magic. 🤷🏻♂️ I know all about the guardian. Flew it in combat. Still only carried 3 types of weapons. Multiple warhead types tho.
Thanks for bringing together and summarising this information so clearly. Could you include a mention of whether the non hat switches self center (like hat switches) or stay switched to either side? Could be useful for anyone building their own collective.
Hello, great video, as far as I know, there were no flares on American Apaches until 2006, accordingly, there was no button that you named "Flares". And since 2006 this place has been the CMDS program select switch. I'm right?
Take a look in the manual and see what it says. The problem with the Apache is it went though so many changes it’s hard to pin things down to a certain day “things looked like X”. Plus I was flying kiowas in 06 so I’m only going off talking to people who did and what’s in the manual. I could be wrong tho. 🤷🏻♂️
The world is small, I just asked the same, problem is that without that CMDS program select switch there would be no other way to drop flares without setting the CMWS to bypass mode with CMWS control panel, except for automatic dispense upon missile launch detection. Besides ED modeled the WPN page without the Flare counters above the chaff. I think I seen one Apache cockpit that didn't had the CMDS switch but had a CMWS CIU panel installed, so I'm not sure yet about it's implementation.
I really want to get the huey, should i do it know or wait until the apache gets release for pre order to maybe get a discount? Do you think its possible, helis are gonna get discounted this month?
You will most likely have to wait another year or two before there are even any pictures of the module published, so grabbing the Huey right now during the sale is the right thing to do. In fact, check all the available helicopter modules for free while it lasts and decide for yourself.
Hey casmo, I´ve a short question. For some reason the altitute hold mode in my apache doesn´t work. Do I have to do something special before activating it? Thanks for all answers.
0:21 I see you have gotten used to community standards rather quickly. 2:40 So I'm not the only one who uses Cruise rarely or not at all (as a Longbow Gold virtual pilot so far :D) 3:46 Actually there is a reason. There's actually one thing you press which is some kind of cover. If you flip it up it's on top of the weapon release button and triggers that and the gun trigger button is recessed so you can't accidently squeeze it. If you flip the cover down, it acts as the trigger you pull that pushes the actual trigger button in. You can see that in DCS when switching to cannon IIRC. The Bf-109 and FW-190 have a similar stick concept BTW. So basically having 2 different buttons in DCS is a DCS thing.
Massive thanks for the vid, I was floored the first time I saw the Apache collective. Good to know there's a good reason for the weirdness. =) Is the trigger system on the Ka-50 is that weird, don't most US combat aircraft (fighters and attack planes at least...) have separate triggers and weapon release buttons? And having a flip down trigger for weapon release, like many Russian planes seem to have, makes some sense to me as an additional safety, at least you won't pull it by accident when it's up.
What would be the point for having two buttons do the same thing? I guess that’s my point. If I can only action one weapon at a time... why have two buttons fire? In the Kiowa and the Apache both, the cyclic has 1 switch to fire. In the Kiowa- thumb switch. Apache- trigger. Different considerations for jets but I can’t speak for them.
@@CasmoTV Yeah, I can see that point as well. The one thing I can think of would be something like "accidentally firing a missile/rocket is a bigger deal than accidentally squeezing off a couple of autocannon rounds", but shrug. =)
Yeah but you gotta be a world class moron to accidentally action a weapon, lift the cover and fire the weapon. 🤷🏻♂️ that being said I know a guy who did it...
@@CasmoTV There's a cover on the trigger in the Apache? That'd definitely take out a reason to have them be separate buttons. I don't know for sure how the gun is selected in it, but to my understanding the Ka-50's gun trigger is not guarded, but the other weapons require you to flip down the weapon release trigger.
A very interesting video, but... Can i buy this Stick from thrustmaster or another? I think no..., Only without the real stick I can't do anything with the information.
Ohh, come on, BUCS isn't that difficult... Just start with the primary and utility (backup) hydraulic systems feeding 4 individual servos at 3000psi. Each servo has an internal RAM LVDT and each Pilot and CPG flight controls (long, lat, col, and dir) have there own LVDT for positioning. As well as the Pilot col potentiometer that is partnered with the LDS (engines). Now, if your flying along and a control is stuck (Pilot or CPG overpacked their lunch or someone forgot the 2" wrench on the R/TRU), either the controls ARDDs will roll out, the servo shear pin breaks, or both, the aircraft goes to a fly-by-wire based off of the positions the LVDTs are feeding into the FMC. *Also, as a side note, releasing the trim will also release the pedals and not just the cyclic. (nitpick)* Edit: bad, bad grammar
Flying with new CPG is gonna be like. -What the hell have you done to the engines, they are at damn IDLE! Have you pressed the CHOP button? -Yeah, but the katana is still there in the cockpit, something went wrong. -Katana? -I'm a Japaneese guy, i thought that when i press the CHOP button it will release the katana from the holder and drop it like bomb on taliban's head. Wanted to chop him! But anyway, we just descended right on him and the rotor blade cut off hes head, so at least we haven't wasted my katana. -We have wasted the whole helo!
Boy can't wait to crash a multimillion dollar heli into the ground before I even take off lol. Great video! How did you become a pilot? Did you become an OC or an aviation warrant officer?
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Now I understand why the Apache has two pilots: two hands are not enough for all the controls.
Also, thanks for sharing your insights. I am interested in seeing how the controls for the upcoming Apache module compare to the Ka-50. So far it looks very intriguing.
Every single combat helicopter in existence has a crew of two but the Black Shark.
@@haramaschabrasir8662 The OH-6 regularly flew with just a pilot (read the book "Low Level Hell" by Hugh L. Mills Jr. for real life accounts). Also, there are several models used by the US military that have crews larger than 2 like the H-53 & H-60 series. Those can be armed and have taken part in front line combat operations. Thanks.
It's generally pretty difficult to fly a helicopter AND do stuff at the same time. Unlike in a plane, you usually have to have both of your hands on the cyclic and the collective all the time. Also, that's why usually the pilot occupies the right seat in a side-by-side seating arrangement.
Of course, there are things like SAS, AP, force trim and so on that help with that, but in its essence a helicopter requires more focus while flying.
@@haramaschabrasir8662 But HOKUM has excellent autopilot systems to fly you hands free in all expect a rocket strafe. And when you have eyes outside, you are mainly using rockets, gun in HMS aiming mode or just searching air threats for R-73/IGLA-V.
It is sad that we don't have proper contrast detection system in DCS as you could lock air threats with HMS as it will symbolize when you get a lock-on with Shkval - that would do so very effectively against such strong contrasts as you don't need to do more than have largest targeting gate and 7x or 23x depending distance to get target inside Shkval screen and system lock-on. Then just keep target inside Shkval gimbal limits. Now it is impossible as Shkval is not contrast based and you can't lock a aircraft even if it would be perfectly filling Shkval gate etc.
In the state trials and combat tests it was confirmed that KA-50 was less demanding to fly and operate in combat than a single seater fighters. Why you don't need a second pilot/gunner to perform duties.
But KA-50 couldn't enter to any export trials because every country required two-pilot attack helicopter. Why Kamov developed KA-50-2 for export use.
The KA-52 was simultaneously developed with KA-50 but it was meant to be flight leader, with A-G radar, A-A radar and squadron leader designating targets for each KA-50 in flight. So 4+1 ratio where Sharks hunts and kills, while Alligator designates targets and control the group formation.
That was more demanding as flight commander was to communicate with ground forces, the air defense HQ, nearby CAS planes and with flight itself.
KA-50 is very capable with good group, but it suffers from DCS lack of datalink to HQ and proper communications with rest of the forces.
I remember during Bright Star in 1997 that the Egyptians were having big issues with breaking strap packs on their Apaches and were constantly replacing them(it's neither cheap nor easy because the whole head has to be taken apart to get just one out), and came to find out they were taxiing at ground idle requiring more collective input to get the required lift on the blades and this was over stressing the strap packs. I never did understand what they were thinking to accomplish with such a uninformed taxi method. I mean you could see it on the taxi, too, the cone angle on theirs were nuts compared to ours and it was like you were looking at the whole cordwise span of the blade while they were taxiing. If they had full power and did that the could quite possible "egg-beater" the blades, though I still think that is just an urban legend as in my years as a mechanic(both in and out) I have never seen it happen, though, in Kuwait during Desert Thunder I did see an 58D with two guys that were over 230 pounds take-off. It looked like those blades would egg-beater too, and it was funny because it kind bounded into the air like "booiiiinnng", and we thought for sure it was going to pancake.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching, mister Big!
Would be cool to see this series continue, even past the basic controls.
I have several more videos planned
2 weeks! Not funny but funny at the same time. I had to start over. LOL Great videos
2 weeks... me in 1/07 still waiting
Ok so I all I can see in my head is the Total Recall lady saying " twoooo weeeeeeks" 😆
Same
@@CasmoTV So 'comes out in two weeks' I was under the impression we were going to be able to pre-order it from Feb, not 'comes out in two weeks' sounds like it's actually dropping very soon?
It’s a joke. A running joke in the community.
@@CasmoTV Ah! lol to be fair it's a good joke :D keep up with the great content, I look forward to learning as much about the Apache as I can before launch. thanks
@@CasmoTV 2 falcon weeks, as they always say on BMS forum :-)
Super excited that Virpil is going to be releasing the Apache collective next January. I'll be referring back to this video once I get mine for sure!
im an apache crew chief and I cant wait for this!!!
Your channel has been awesome with all the up and coming apache hype. Really looking forward to your content and hopefully some great training and how to stuff when the Apache Drops. Consider me subscribed. Thanks
Great job of de-mystifying the Collective. So much valuable info in such a quick overview... All those buttons and hats distributed over MPDs, TEDAC and Cyclic/Collective sure are intimidating. 😇
Can't wait for this model to come out. Great Overview!
Congrats on the partnership, I take it this is part of the big news/live appearance.
Truly appreciate the video! Great quality and full of outstanding information!
Thanks!
Well, what a coincident. I have found your channel today and subscribed. And then there is a video from Mover with you. That's cool.
Glad you found me!
Just started rewatching these now that the heli module is actually about to drop!
Nice Video! Thanks for putting this out there!
Thanks for watching!
"ERMAGERD" moment lmao. Caught me off guard.
Got to always be ready. Stay alert! Stay alive!
Always remember to monitor Guard.
@@ImpendingJoker lol.. got'emmmm
2 weeks(tm)
@@HCShuffle It's an ED joke, always saying Twoweeks (TM)
@@woodsman4946 I remember Oleg Maddox (original Il-2 series) always saying that when he's been asked for a new patch release date :D
That's quite the joystick! I thought fast jet pilots had a busy job, but this is full on.
I’m learning more in your video than I did in the first week of academics. One note: Cruise Mode works well for IFR flights.
Yeah it probably does come to think of it. I think the problem is that old timers get so set in their ways and they pass those on. I never used cruise mainly cause I was never shown what it was good for. I know from talking to some that basically the old transition mode didn’t have some of the data it does now and when that changed it kinda became pointless. Maybe the Echo will make cruise mode great again!
Many thanks
Love your content. 🚁👌🏻
Is there a primary collective grip for flying? In terms of accurate placement of the collective on a sim rig, should the rear collective grip come to hand easier, the front grip, or should it be between the two?
Fly with the back grip. The flight grip
@@CasmoTV Thank you!
@@CasmoTV I now realize that if I had watched your video all the way through, I would have noticed that you called the lower grip the flight grip. I also know that I always notice when people ask me a question in the comments that I covered in a video. So sorry for that :) I just received my Virpil AH-64 collective grip which has a 1:1 layout match with your image.
@markkovalcson7243 this is how we learn.
Hey Cosmo, you said you have separate video for TDAC but I can’t find it. You mentioned that here when start explaining about the collective buttons. Would you mind referring me to the TDAC video you talked about. Thanks
I didn’t make one. Waiting for the release. It’s too hard to make one without having it in front of me.
Excellent video, really informative.
about the cyclic flare switch, i read somewhere that some apaches used that switch to scroll between the 4 manual dispense programs, gold, rfcm, etc.
then you would use chaff dispense to release either flares or chaff depending on program selected.
Or does it dispense flares directly bypassing the CMWS?
I was wondering how it would be implemented in DCS since we don't have a clear picture of the cyclic yet.
Thank you for this
I think chop button makes sense for loss of tail rotor scenarios in hover or bellow minimum speed for aerodynamic stability.
Can't wait for a similar Mi-24 video! :)
Me either.
@@CasmoTV I just pulled some strings in the background, hope ED will soon release such kind of Mi-24 video *hehe* :)
If ED wants to win my heart they just need to give me access a week or so early. I promise I’ll be good. 🤷🏻♂️
@@connorhuchteman connections to specific ED staff... xD nevemind though, ED stated they will as usual release video-series of tutorials before Mi-24 release.
You should do the same video about the KW
In regards to the chop button, kind of want someone to directly shoot my tail so I can push it and attempt an auto, to see if it helps. Just curiosity.
The collective handle/s just being two joysticks glued one on top of the other is funny as hell to me for some reason. It looks like such a cludge.
I had the same response.
Thank you, now we are going to see Virpil to come out with something ridiculous where they have two joystick grips melted top of each others...
Yo Casmo, fan of the channel mate. Can you do something covering the TEDAC in detail (whatever detail you can)? Not sure if that's something already in the pipeline. Would be great to get an idea of how I might set up control bindings for that, thinking XBox controller with a Thrustmaster MFD panel glued to it! Cheers
I made one but never finished. Might be easier when the module hits.
@@CasmoTV Much appreciated sir, always look forward to your content, DCS and otherwise. Cheers!
Wait, so not only Apache pilots have independently rotating eyeballs, they also got three hands - one for cyclic, and two for the two-handed collective?
im old enough to remember a time before the powerplant exhaust was redirected up through the rotor and dissipated. where's my cane? get off my lawn
very helpful, thanks! subbed!
me, my warthog hotas, my g2 and my wallet are ready for the apache!
Great explanation. really like it.. quick one, so does the visor or the helmet is pitch dark so when you lower it down it helps you focus on the ihadss monocular better with out blinking the left eye 👁?.
No. It’s just like sunglasses. 🤷🏻♂️but can’t fit over the other eye cause of the combiner lens
@@CasmoTV thanks .. last question for the day ☺️, where is the Zoom-in Zoom-out button located ? , is it the round-shaped button on the top of collective stick 🤔 ?.
Why does MCG trigger duplicate Cursor Control Depress on the same exact grip? Is this for some reason? Which of two ways of cursor enter is used IRL mostly when you hold MCG?
Two weeks - on that high-gravity “Interstellar” planet. *docking music begins playing*
Random internet troll: “Flying the Longbow in DCS is not possible.”
Me: “No. It’s necessary.”
Here's your docking music: ruclips.net/video/iOD2tvNuzig/видео.html
Thank me later ^^
@CasmoTV have you already talked about how it will be to operate the bird as a single person and what it will take to make this a good experience in terms of AI and so on? This would be realy interesting.
Not sure the plan for the AI yet.
Two weeks until we can play or two weeks until we can buy?
Unfortunately the second
The weapon switch being mapped to "Gun, Rocket, Hellfire and A2A Stinger".
Is that implying.....that's all the Apache can carry? Or is modular in that whatever is loaded is selected based on hardpoint position? I ask as I was under the impression there was a hell of a lot more variety in ordnance than 4 hardwired options could cover.
But it boils down to only 4 weapon systems. You click the one you wanna use. Doesn’t matter where it’s loaded.
I mean it’s not implying anything. Not sure who led you to believe they really carry more than that.
@@CasmoTV *scratches head* Mavericks? Sidearms? Penguins? Helstreaks? Mistrals? Gun pods? The newest Apache "Guardian" is supposed to be able to control and even engage with it's own integrated UCAVs?
I'm not saying it isn't accurate/realistic for it to only carry those 4 weapons. I'm speaking from the position of a simulation user, concerned about the lack of depth, diversity, and replay value in a module with such a narrow, fixed loadout when everything else in DCS has literal pages worth of various munitions, when said module will no doubt be the standard $60-$80+ that the much more diverse other airframes are charging.
@@CasmoTV And re: The first response, that's cool. I'm glad the switch is wired to select weapon /type/ rather than weapon /position/. Means you can load anything anywhere and never have to change your HOTAS muscle memory.
Well everyone wanted the Apache. (Not me). This is the Apache. Doesn’t carry those other weapons. Maybe ED will pull some magic. 🤷🏻♂️
I know all about the guardian. Flew it in combat. Still only carried 3 types of weapons.
Multiple warhead types tho.
You going to interview an Armt Dawg?
Had no idea the aircraft had a spotlight, what conditions is that typically used for?
Landing
Thanks for bringing together and summarising this information so clearly. Could you include a mention of whether the non hat switches self center (like hat switches) or stay switched to either side? Could be useful for anyone building their own collective.
You talking about the landing light movement? Hmmm... I think they recenter. It’s been quite a while....
Hello, great video, as far as I know, there were no flares on American Apaches until 2006, accordingly, there was no button that you named "Flares".
And since 2006 this place has been the CMDS program select switch.
I'm right?
Take a look in the manual and see what it says. The problem with the Apache is it went though so many changes it’s hard to pin things down to a certain day “things looked like X”. Plus I was flying kiowas in 06 so I’m only going off talking to people who did and what’s in the manual. I could be wrong tho. 🤷🏻♂️
The world is small, I just asked the same, problem is that without that CMDS program select switch there would be no other way to drop flares without setting the CMWS to bypass mode with CMWS control panel, except for automatic dispense upon missile launch detection.
Besides ED modeled the WPN page without the Flare counters above the chaff.
I think I seen one Apache cockpit that didn't had the CMDS switch but had a CMWS CIU panel installed, so I'm not sure yet about it's implementation.
2 weeks? Hot damn
Don’t buy the hype lol
TM
Why do I hear the voice of the LBG CP/G in my head right now?
"Hellfire away!"
... BAM! ...
"Hot damn!"
:)
05:20 'a few buttons...' HOLY CRAP my HOTAS has a decent amount of switches, never needed all for other modules... Or so I thought until now 😅
Thanx for the great vids, keep it up! Any recommendations on a collective control? I can’t find much out there.
I just use a thrustmaster throttle 🤷🏻♂️
I really want to get the huey, should i do it know or wait until the apache gets release for pre order to maybe get a discount? Do you think its possible, helis are gonna get discounted this month?
Couldn’t tell you about sales. No idea.
They're literally on sale right now :)
@@CakePrincessCelestia Not only that, there is also a free flight until the 15th.
You will most likely have to wait another year or two before there are even any pictures of the module published, so grabbing the Huey right now during the sale is the right thing to do. In fact, check all the available helicopter modules for free while it lasts and decide for yourself.
@@getsideways7257 well, the Apache is supposed to be released in Q3 2021, so not that far from now
two week, Hawaii time "we get there when we get there"
not part of this video but asking here any way I have torque peddles with no toe brake am I going to get something else for the Apache
It does have toe brakes if that’s what you mean.
@@CasmoTV Guess what I meant is can it be used without them since my Kiowa system has no toe breaks. Would need to buy another set of peddles
No just map the brakes to something else. That’s what I do. 🤷🏻♂️ you really don’t even use them except to set the parking brake.
Is the Apache easy to get into vrs?
No
Chop button for loss of tail rotor emergency auto rotations?
Sorry as I may have completely missed this but the Apache module is coming out in two weeks?
It’s a joke
Two weeks™ yes
@@CasmoTV damn actually got hyped a bit for a moment.
Hey casmo, I´ve a short question. For some reason the altitute hold mode in my apache doesn´t work. Do I have to do something special before activating it? Thanks for all answers.
Cause it’s not implemented yet
Who is going to be the first to make an AH64 grip? Thrustmaster, vkd ? Bet plans are already drawn !!!
If you have the money maybe www.bugeyetech.com/ah-64 although I doubt these are USB :)
But where is the TEDAC video?
When it comes out
@@CasmoTV You tell me!
… when the module comes out…
What button was Apache's Discord PTT button?
You have to squeeze your cheeks twice in rapid succession.
The radio switch goes left for transmit and right for intercom.
@@CasmoTV Like thusly though: ruclips.net/video/l8JCX9E0bEI/видео.html :)
when the video on the tads
Two weeks for the release? wtf
I think he was joking ;)
@@nh6central yep XD
I need more buttons.
And we haven’t even gotten to the TEDAC.
@@CasmoTV I need buttons for my buttons.
2 weeks - Planet Endor timezone
Hahaha!
in 2 weeks?
Or Soon™
Yes, pre-purchase. Not fly.
It’s all a joke anyhow guys. Two weeks is a long standing DCS meme.
@@CasmoTV Two weeks until Vulkan and Multithreading.
@@CasmoTV that was borrowed from the 'two more veeks' from Il2 guru Oleg Maddox :)
do i need the FMC Disconnect Button?
Nah
@@CasmoTV thx! xD i used it in my first flight and i was totaly lost of control. Now i know how to setup the FMC again if disconnected.
0:21 I see you have gotten used to community standards rather quickly.
2:40 So I'm not the only one who uses Cruise rarely or not at all (as a Longbow Gold virtual pilot so far :D)
3:46 Actually there is a reason. There's actually one thing you press which is some kind of cover. If you flip it up it's on top of the weapon release button and triggers that and the gun trigger button is recessed so you can't accidently squeeze it. If you flip the cover down, it acts as the trigger you pull that pushes the actual trigger button in. You can see that in DCS when switching to cannon IIRC. The Bf-109 and FW-190 have a similar stick concept BTW. So basically having 2 different buttons in DCS is a DCS thing.
Interesting observation on the switches. Still seems overdone. The Apache has a switch cover too. Idk... I would have come up with a better way lol.
Apache module comes out in 2 weeks lol
Massive thanks for the vid, I was floored the first time I saw the Apache collective. Good to know there's a good reason for the weirdness. =)
Is the trigger system on the Ka-50 is that weird, don't most US combat aircraft (fighters and attack planes at least...) have separate triggers and weapon release buttons? And having a flip down trigger for weapon release, like many Russian planes seem to have, makes some sense to me as an additional safety, at least you won't pull it by accident when it's up.
What would be the point for having two buttons do the same thing? I guess that’s my point. If I can only action one weapon at a time... why have two buttons fire?
In the Kiowa and the Apache both, the cyclic has 1 switch to fire. In the Kiowa- thumb switch. Apache- trigger.
Different considerations for jets but I can’t speak for them.
@@CasmoTV Yeah, I can see that point as well. The one thing I can think of would be something like "accidentally firing a missile/rocket is a bigger deal than accidentally squeezing off a couple of autocannon rounds", but shrug. =)
Yeah but you gotta be a world class moron to accidentally action a weapon, lift the cover and fire the weapon. 🤷🏻♂️ that being said I know a guy who did it...
@@CasmoTV There's a cover on the trigger in the Apache? That'd definitely take out a reason to have them be separate buttons. I don't know for sure how the gun is selected in it, but to my understanding the Ka-50's gun trigger is not guarded, but the other weapons require you to flip down the weapon release trigger.
Yeah guarded.
A very interesting video, but...
Can i buy this Stick from thrustmaster or another? I think no...,
Only without the real stick I can't do anything with the information.
That’s a very narrow view but I guess everyone has an opinion.
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if either Virpil or VKB, maybe even TM would come up with some Apache controllers at some point :D
Two weeks. Jamaican time zone.
(Whenever man)
2 more veeks !
Don’t believe everything you hear.
@@CasmoTV i don’t. That’s the joke. But you just have to be an old il2 pilot to get the reference 😉
*sweats in not enough buttons on HOTAS*
Modifiers are your friend.
@@CasmoTV when half the buttons on your HOTAS end up as modifiers :)
Wait, how many weeks? 😂
So if Thrustmaster get around to building an AH-64 HOTAS, there're going to be around AU$1,500 a pop given the complexity of those sticks. 😉🤣
Let’s hope not!
Update when you're not busy please! 😉
I swear, if you roll my ARDDs ima be pissed!
Just don’t zig when I try to zag!
Ohh, come on, BUCS isn't that difficult...
Just start with the primary and utility (backup) hydraulic systems feeding 4 individual servos at 3000psi. Each servo has an internal RAM LVDT and each Pilot and CPG flight controls (long, lat, col, and dir) have there own LVDT for positioning. As well as the Pilot col potentiometer that is partnered with the LDS (engines).
Now, if your flying along and a control is stuck (Pilot or CPG overpacked their lunch or someone forgot the 2" wrench on the R/TRU), either the controls ARDDs will roll out, the servo shear pin breaks, or both, the aircraft goes to a fly-by-wire based off of the positions the LVDTs are feeding into the FMC.
*Also, as a side note, releasing the trim will also release the pedals and not just the cyclic. (nitpick)*
Edit: bad, bad grammar
Surely they can shave off a week for Valentine’s Day? This programming business can’t be that hard...
Seems simple enough.
Should of dropped this video on April fools day 🤣
Flying with new CPG is gonna be like.
-What the hell have you done to the engines, they are at damn IDLE! Have you pressed the CHOP button?
-Yeah, but the katana is still there in the cockpit, something went wrong.
-Katana?
-I'm a Japaneese guy, i thought that when i press the CHOP button it will release the katana from the holder and drop it like bomb on taliban's head. Wanted to chop him! But anyway, we just descended right on him and the rotor blade cut off hes head, so at least we haven't wasted my katana.
-We have wasted the whole helo!
Boy can't wait to crash a multimillion dollar heli into the ground before I even take off lol.
Great video! How did you become a pilot? Did you become an OC or an aviation warrant officer?
Warrant then commish
fire the guy who make's the thumbnails for you, that black text is unreadable
Consider me fired.
@@CasmoTV i can make thumbs for you for free, same with the graphic on top, your content is worth it.
@@gamerspitt8089 I’m listening...
@@CasmoTV send me your email i will send you a sample graphic, or i will post some samples on my channel
Lowlevelhellcasmotv@gmail.com
2 weeks (tm)