i couldn't find much about the Labirintus puzzles, except that 1. the company name is just VAMA (23:04) their logo is kinda similar to the Vans one, i tried looking for it but there's many"vama" brands, and none of the ones i found made puzzles or had this logo. The main MIlan-based one made hand dryers. 2. the "model kit" part probably just means that you assemble it first and then play with the finished maze, but 3. i'm really suspicious about the "modello depositato" after it. it sounds like it's just a model being used as a proof of concept to be registered for a patent, i don't know how it ties in with the fact that there are two with the exact same design and same color, but it makes sense to have a number 3 with a different design. 4. There's a ® symbol after the number 1, and also after the triangular puzzle piece shape in the bottom right corner, but there's none after the 3. It probably did not get registered and is not an actual product, and the one this image shows is the proof of concept model. 5. at 23:09 the box says "600 tales" instead of the english "pieces" or the italian "pezzi". i checked the other latin alphabet languages on the box, and it's no french, no german, and no spanish. i don't know what language it is 6. i tried to follow worthpoint to find the ebay listing for the Labirintus 3, and it brings me to an error page, it's in australian ebay, and i don't know if it's a clue but there 7. i really tried to read the back of the Labirintus 3 box but the image is so, so pielated and i don't know if there's any clues there anymore
Hi Karen, I don't know about rare puzzles, but since you like puzzles of puzzles, I thought I would mention some I know of. They aren't rare, but you might still enjoy them, if you can get your hands on them. The company is Puls Entertaintment and I think they're a german company. They seem to be specializing in very hard puzzles and they have several "das puzzle mit puzzle motiv". They call them Puzzle Puzzle (gold), Puzzle Puzzle² (blue), Puzzle Puzzle³ (green). The pictures are different, not just the colors. But I don't know if they're available in the US.
(Sorry it's a bit wordy...) Even though you already have it, I found a mysterious connection that may help with the Lawson and Lawson puzzles. I was looking on eBay for the Crossword Jigsaw Puzzle and I found one that looks just like your puzzle! I ended up purchasing it because it was a great price, but noticed it looked a little bit different than yours! So, I compared the picture on WorthPoint (which looks like your puzzle) and noticed a few differences, but also some similarities! Once it arrives, I will be able to compare them even better. However, your puzzle is from Lawson in Wilton, Connecticut and the one I found is from New Approaches Inc. from Wilton, Connecticut. Did they perhaps change their name? I think that might be the case because the WorthPoint picture shows a bit of the up/down hints and they seem to be the exact same as the ones in the eBay picture for the New Approaches Inc. puzzle. The cover to your crossword puzzle a little more to the left and the one I bought is a little more centered. HOWEVER... when I searched "New Approaches Puzzle" on eBay, a 3rd version of the exact same puzzle appears! It has yellow on the box in addition to the black and white and it says Series 1, No. 1 ... but when looking again at the sheet of clues - they are the exact same!! So...did the company just remake the exact same puzzle over and over again with just a new box?! I hope this helps some!
@@alessiaagazzi8605 I have a follow up on the VAMA company. I have searched for "vama model kit" and found and active ebay italy listing for a model kit. The logo on the box seems similar with the one the puzzle, so it might be the same. Also, there is another older italian company which make model kits named Italeri. They might know something about the other company. @karenpuzzles I have sent you more information about these in an email.
I feel like this video is kinda meta! You’re solving a puzzle about solving puzzles. No but really, I appreciate your dedication to tracking all this stuff down. I don’t personally have the attention span to do jigsaw puzzles myself but I find the history so fascinating.
Okay so I was born in 1979 but my grandma had tons of puzzles because she was a big Puzzler. I swear I remember the round competitive puzzle. If I'm correct each one of the concentric circles are their own jigsaw puzzle and then, put together, they slide so that you can line up the numbers to solve another puzzle like a decoder. I can't tell you anything about this puzzle other than that, but I'm pretty sure I remember playing with it as a small child!!!
@@KarenPuzzles sadly I don't have pictures from my childhood, due to some natural disasters, but the memory is pretty solid. I used to chain together the concentric circles and swing it around so it must have been a pretty solid puzzle 😅😅😅 heh. I would never treat a puzzle that way now!!!
I just looked up on ebay and the rarest or at least most expensive puzzles there were the asian Kremis Island Diddy Kong puzzle for >3000$ and the Heye 8000 piece New York puzzle for >2000€. It was very interesting to see that even new Ravensburger puzzles from 1978 were under 100€. Maybe this looks different on other continents (I am from Germany).
I have never done a jigsaw puzzle in my life, but I can't stop watching your videos! You radiate a zest for life that is so contagious! I always feel inspired after watching you. That might sound corny but you are legitimately helping me through some depression and I appreciate you so much for unabashedly sharing your passion with the world. You rock Karen!
I bought the maze puzzle from Bits and Pieces so they may know more about them. If I remember, you have a contact there. There were three different mazes in red, blue, and green. The blue one you showed looks like the same pattern as the red one, but I'm pretty sure that all three mazes were different when they appeared in the catalog. I'll also send you email on a silver optic puzzle which looks like it could be part of the set of those puzzles which came in blue boxes, but mine is a different pattern. The puzzle actually fits inside the box, which is what the ones you showed looked like. Good luck with finding all the mysterious puzzles you want.
I'm from Germany and i'm pretty sure you can just message the people on ebay in english and than you can buy the old krypt puzzels or others you can find there. You'll have to pay quite a bit of shipping I suppose, but I can't see a reason why you wouldn't be able to buy from there.
Hey am I the only one who really does like landscape puzzles?! I looooove solving the sky, especially when it's a sunset cuz it's just sooo pretty. And I also love solving grass, mountains and water because it is basically almost like a solid coloured puzzle with an interesting texture, which makes it so much more challenging and cool to solve!
Okay Karen. I have been watching youtube forever (been watching beauty gurus since they were called beauty gurus) but never actually buy the products people show in videos. I had 0 puzzles, but within 3 weeks of finding your channel I have now purchased 3. You are the Ultimate Influencer. Lol. really though, your enthusiasm for puzzling has really inspired me to do more things just for the enjoyment of the activity. So thank you!
I haven’t put together a puzzle in years, stumbled across her videos when I was actually looking for chess puzzle videos 😂… but now I’m hooked. Andddddd I’ve bought two ravensburger puzzles, a 1000 and 2000 piece. So I second this mightily.
I love the evolution of your hobby and in turn your channel. You weren't too keen on solid color puzzles before and now we are here collecting solid color puzzles and being all detective on obscure and mysterious puzzles that not even the internet knows about. Also the 70s: Shapeless patters and Patternless Shapes. Oh come on! 😅😅
I love this kind of videos, seeing someone so exited about sharing their favourite things in collections and the misterys around the items, such great content to binge. Can't wait for the next update on your findings!
So I looked into the Ravensburger graphic and the old crypt puzzles and you’re right here in Germany they really aren’t that hard to get, on eBay Kleinanzeigen I even saw to of the crypt ones for only 10€, so with a contact in Germany you should definitely be able to get your hands on those. I can definitely help out if you want🤗
It appears the best way to search for the Ravensburger Graphic puzzles is just to use those two words: Ravensburger (and maybe Ravensberger just in case) Graphic (and maybe Graphics as well). I noticed a Graphic 2 puzzle sold from a seller in Germany almost exactly a month ago for a reasonable price (excluding shipping). For some reason, though, even though the title included "Graphic 2", a completed item search for Ravensberger "Graphics 2" didn't show it.
Especially love your vintage puzzle videos! Whether you’re solving them, showing off your collection, or telling us the history of these obscure, gorgeous relics, I just eat up these videos! Keep up the great work, KP! ☺️
Ooh, I have some friends who work at Celanese. I wonder if they have a department or group that might be aware of that kind of company history... Not expecting anything, but I'll let you know if I ever can get any info about it.
These are my favorite videos of yours to watch. It intrigues me how many crazy puzzles have been made. But do you ever reverse image search the pictures of the puzzles? That might help locate it if someone has named it something else online.
Oh my gosh, okay, so I hadn't finished watching the video before I made my previous comment but I also remember having that Halley's Comet puzzle!!!!! I was absolutely *obsessed* with Halley's Comet as a kid!!! Yes, at 6 years old I was already a huge science nerd🤣 I had tons of Halley's Comet merch from back in the day, sadly it's all been lost to history! Embarrassingly enough, I don't think I ever finished the puzzle because it was just too hard for me back then 😭😅
The Eaton puzzles are interesting. Here in Canada we used to have a department store similar to Sears called Eaton's, and the font in their logo looked pretty much exactly like the one used on those puzzles. They filed for bankruptcy and closed down back in the late 90s. Eaton isn't exactly an uncommon name so probably not related, but fascinating. Also in the points listing for the coffee puzzle, it looks like the hidden word ends in "us" so maybe "genius"? Did I solve the mystery? lol I do a lot of thrift shopping and definitely always look at the puzzles, so I'm really hoping to come across one your holy grails someday to send to you!
I'm very new to your channel but I find your content and passion about your love of puzzles endearing. Also, if you end up partnering with a puzzle making company I hope you come out with a series of puzzles called "Karen's Puzzles".
It looks like the "competitive puzzle" says "competitive jigsaw" on the puzzle? board? itself. Not that it granted anything helpful from a quick google either. Definitely mysterious!
It's not necessarily to sell it to her specifically, but suddenly the puzzle has been mentioned in a popular RUclips channel, which piques people's interest in it, and therefore raises the price. It happens all the time to Techmoan with vintage electronics which go way up in price after he makes a video about something. I'm sure it's common with anything vintage, collectible or otherwise rare after it's featured somewhere popular. DeLorean cars are a great example: they wouldn't be nearly as valuable without Back to the Future.
Your passion is amazing Karen! The fact that you found and talked with people who worked on them is huge! That deepdive is pretty interesting. Never knew vintage puzzles could be so cool
I’m just thrilled to hear that there exists a mysterious “puzzle grapevine!” Thanks for all the information. 🥰 I’d love to do any or all of the Graphic puzzles. They are so visually pleasing.
Looking forward to seeing progress in Karen’s hunt for these mysterious puzzles! I think my favourites would be the colourful graphic ones! Good luck, Karen!
well....I was able to find info on Lawson & Lawson by absolute random chance and some rooting around in the national archives but I haven't finished my digging. It seems that the copyright holder is a man named Tomas Lawson and he was (is?) an artist. Outside of these puzzles, there seems to be very little other 'game' type work that he's done. Most of his art is small scale sculpture; small pieces you'd have on a desk or side table. What's crazy is that my dad owned one of these sculptures (and I'm sure it's still in storage) as we owned a house right near Wilton, CT. However, I haven't been able to find anything about the puzzles or any current info about him yet. I'll keep you posted!
Karen, my late dad was an avid jigsaw puzzler back in the day, and we kids would buy him ones like the solid color and op-art ones back in the 1970s - 80s. When he passed in 2017 none of us wanted them, and we Goodwilled the entire collection. So I can't send you anything, but would recommend thrift stores as a possible source for folks looking for puzzles.
OMGOSH!! I went to look for the puzzle before watching the whole video, and I found the same puzzle, and you must have been the one that they said sold!! I was so hoping to send you a link to it!! Your too good!!
OKOK WAIT I was looking at the video (super interesting as usual 😍) feeling a bit useless because as an Italian I cannot help with any of these USA puzzle hunting BUT THEN I SAW MILANO??? I’ve never heard of any terrific maze craze puzzles but as soon as I have time I’ll do a bit of research because maybe there will be some info on Italian websites 💪🏻
I don't have any mysterious puzzles, but I do have some old Waddington's Jigmap puzzles and circular puzzles from my grandparent's loft - made in the early 60s, complete with an unhealthy dose of good old British colonialism.
With all these hunts for rare puzzles and all the info you gather about them and the deepdive into the those $100000 dollar ones you can write a book soon about puzzles!
I already told Karen that she is the next Anne Williams, but she doesn't believe me LOL! If her dad wrote a book, why can't Karen? ! I know that some readers tell Karen they are not puzzlers, but love to watch her videos....so maybe she is not wanting to be a writer, but just a researcher, but if she decides to write one, I'm certain readers AND puzzlers will certainly buy her book!!!
I've been binging all your videos! i'm on part 4 of the Life puzzle now. i had no idea all of these unique puzzles existed. i can't wait to get back into puzzling! 🥰 ily.
Another great video! After discovering your channel I bought my Mom a 1000 piece puzzle for Christmas, AND SHE'S STILL WORKING ON IT! Keep up the good work. I'm always looking forward to your next. 💖
One copy of the Graphic III from Ravensburger is mine, but it reminds me to my childhood, because my brother and I puzzled it several times together. It is really beautiful and worth to have. But there are actual similar puzzles available from Remember, a company from Krefeld, Germany. I just love their mysterious designs. ❤
as a puzzle nerd and internet detective nerd myself, this video was such a treat to watch! i hope you can find some of these elusive puzzles. maybe one day you'll start your own puzzle museum haha.
You would probably love my 80ies ‚Where is Waldo‘ jigsaw with only Waldos on it! 😂 The think puzzles are not really rare, I might have one in my basement, will check. 😊
ebay Kleinanzeigen is basically german craigslist. You're right, they don't seem to be rare over here. If you need a contact in Germany I'd be willing to help.
I've seen the think krypt puzzles here in Germany at eBay Kleinanzeigen quite offen before. It actually shouldn't be a problem to get in touch with the sellers to order them....if the person does speak English. Otherwise I could help out and order and collect them for you and send them over.
I kind of wish you'd try putting together the patternless shapes puzzle. It's so different from any other puzzle I've seen. I'd really like to see if you find it easy or difficult, frustrating or fun, etc. If it's fun, it would be cool to see puzzles like that back on the market.
Karen i keep my eye open for interesting puzzles for you everytime i hit the thrift stores and yard sales. Im glad you decided to let us know what you are looking for as it will help the search. Good Luck!
I started a couple of collections years ago but soon I realized that I only wanted the rare and unique versions of those things; so I had to stop because it was very difficult and expensive, really impossible to get them. I don't find it interesting to collect things that are not rare, unique and everyone can get, but that's just me. I truly hope that you find your holy grail puzzles Karen. Keep posting please.
Karen, this was very interesting. Can you do a review of online puzzles? My favorite is Jig-Zone, they have multiple puzzles, you can change the shapes and change the number of pieces. One of the shapes is also triangles plus it has a timer so you know how long it takes you to complete.
If you like rare vintage meta puzzles, look for the 1979 "The Shmuzzle Puzzle" by Shmuzzle Inc. I had the Vintage THE SHMUZZLE PUZZLE SP-111 Salamanders Shmuzzola Party 168 Pieces.
I love those Ravensburger Graphic puzzles, but have never seen one here on the fleamarket in Ravensburg (the Krypt ones you can get for a handful of Euros all the time). In that time, they also released a series of extremely cool looking boardgames and card games in the "traveller series", with somewhat strange names like Sogo, Schaska, Miracle, Isola, Hepta, Peggino or Banda. Soon after that period, they went back to much lamer popular children's fare mostly...
On the Apple 2 one, you might want to reach out to some of the retro computer RUclipsrs like LGR because it's possible that they either have one somewhere or know a guy who does!
I have the frustrator!!! Was just thinking you’d love it if you don’t have it already 😂 I haven’t tried to put it together and I got it from goodwill over a decade ago so there’s probably missing pieces. Would love to send it to you! Aw shoot I just saw your instagram pic so you already have it.
Come on, rich crossword puzzlers! If you have one of those apple computer puzzles, please donate it to Karen! It's practically the holy grail, just not for $3500!
I wonder if that's the Halley's Comet puzzle that was in the Orlando Science Center gift store in 1986. I see someone posted a completed version on Reddit and the first comment is about you missing 8 pieces and the second is "I was going to say that"
I have three puzzles (never had boxes) came with posters, that I have lost), of Formula One Cars from c1974 at Monaco. Are you interested in them , as my family are not. I would only want payment for the postage to the USA.
These newer solid Ravensburger Puzzle are as Well on eBay kleinanzeigen but They are a Bit More pricier because it was a collab With a famous photographer Here in germany. There are 2 colours available at the Moment the black and the Yellow. In you Want them I Could manage that Maybe :)
My grandpa owns an vintage ravensburger from about 1973. I guess that's the oldest he owns. Its a landscape design. I hope it's complete did not finish it yet.
I was wondering did you contact the Wilton Connecticut Public Library about Lawson and Lawson ? Libraries certainly know the town's history and companies.
Always fun to watch one of your Rare/Vintage Puzzle videos, it’s interesting to learn all of these unknown “mysterious” puzzles to me! Personally I would love to do the Puzzlement puzzle since I love abstract colourful artwork on basically everything 😆😆
You can also look up 'Jan Van Haasteren' those are really fun puzzles, with little scenes of things going wrong in a specific setting with humans and animals (cartoons) . we have always such fun making them :D the biggest we've done was 5000 pieces (I think, it was a long time ago) and it was a snow setting really amazing
I took screenshots of the ones you are looking for. It would be great if your website had a wishlist. If I ever found anything you're looking for, I would probably just gift it to you.
Do you know anything about any of these puzzles? Make sure to subscribe to stay up to date on if I ever get my hands on any of them!
When you were typing op-art apart 1. I noticed it had an i instead of 1. Could that be the reason you couldn’t find it?
i couldn't find much about the Labirintus puzzles, except that
1. the company name is just VAMA (23:04) their logo is kinda similar to the Vans one, i tried looking for it but there's many"vama" brands, and none of the ones i found made puzzles or had this logo. The main MIlan-based one made hand dryers.
2. the "model kit" part probably just means that you assemble it first and then play with the finished maze, but
3. i'm really suspicious about the "modello depositato" after it. it sounds like it's just a model being used as a proof of concept to be registered for a patent, i don't know how it ties in with the fact that there are two with the exact same design and same color, but it makes sense to have a number 3 with a different design.
4. There's a ® symbol after the number 1, and also after the triangular puzzle piece shape in the bottom right corner, but there's none after the 3. It probably did not get registered and is not an actual product, and the one this image shows is the proof of concept model.
5. at 23:09 the box says "600 tales" instead of the english "pieces" or the italian "pezzi". i checked the other latin alphabet languages on the box, and it's no french, no german, and no spanish. i don't know what language it is
6. i tried to follow worthpoint to find the ebay listing for the Labirintus 3, and it brings me to an error page, it's in australian ebay, and i don't know if it's a clue but there
7. i really tried to read the back of the Labirintus 3 box but the image is so, so pielated and i don't know if there's any clues there anymore
Hi Karen, I don't know about rare puzzles, but since you like puzzles of puzzles, I thought I would mention some I know of. They aren't rare, but you might still enjoy them, if you can get your hands on them. The company is Puls Entertaintment and I think they're a german company. They seem to be specializing in very hard puzzles and they have several "das puzzle mit puzzle motiv". They call them Puzzle Puzzle (gold), Puzzle Puzzle² (blue), Puzzle Puzzle³ (green). The pictures are different, not just the colors. But I don't know if they're available in the US.
(Sorry it's a bit wordy...) Even though you already have it, I found a mysterious connection that may help with the Lawson and Lawson puzzles. I was looking on eBay for the Crossword Jigsaw Puzzle and I found one that looks just like your puzzle! I ended up purchasing it because it was a great price, but noticed it looked a little bit different than yours! So, I compared the picture on WorthPoint (which looks like your puzzle) and noticed a few differences, but also some similarities! Once it arrives, I will be able to compare them even better. However, your puzzle is from Lawson in Wilton, Connecticut and the one I found is from New Approaches Inc. from Wilton, Connecticut. Did they perhaps change their name? I think that might be the case because the WorthPoint picture shows a bit of the up/down hints and they seem to be the exact same as the ones in the eBay picture for the New Approaches Inc. puzzle. The cover to your crossword puzzle a little more to the left and the one I bought is a little more centered. HOWEVER... when I searched "New Approaches Puzzle" on eBay, a 3rd version of the exact same puzzle appears! It has yellow on the box in addition to the black and white and it says Series 1, No. 1 ... but when looking again at the sheet of clues - they are the exact same!! So...did the company just remake the exact same puzzle over and over again with just a new box?! I hope this helps some!
@@alessiaagazzi8605 I have a follow up on the VAMA company. I have searched for "vama model kit" and found and active ebay italy listing for a model kit. The logo on the box seems similar with the one the puzzle, so it might be the same. Also, there is another older italian company which make model kits named Italeri. They might know something about the other company.
@karenpuzzles I have sent you more information about these in an email.
I feel like this video is kinda meta! You’re solving a puzzle about solving puzzles. No but really, I appreciate your dedication to tracking all this stuff down. I don’t personally have the attention span to do jigsaw puzzles myself but I find the history so fascinating.
I’d love to see Karen’s version of ‘The Da Vinci Code’ where Katie and Karen solve unique puzzles.
Okay so I was born in 1979 but my grandma had tons of puzzles because she was a big Puzzler. I swear I remember the round competitive puzzle. If I'm correct each one of the concentric circles are their own jigsaw puzzle and then, put together, they slide so that you can line up the numbers to solve another puzzle like a decoder. I can't tell you anything about this puzzle other than that, but I'm pretty sure I remember playing with it as a small child!!!
Amazing! Maybe you have a picture of it in an old photo album somewhere?
@@KarenPuzzles sadly I don't have pictures from my childhood, due to some natural disasters, but the memory is pretty solid. I used to chain together the concentric circles and swing it around so it must have been a pretty solid puzzle 😅😅😅 heh. I would never treat a puzzle that way now!!!
I just looked up on ebay and the rarest or at least most expensive puzzles there were the asian Kremis Island Diddy Kong puzzle for >3000$ and the Heye 8000 piece New York puzzle for >2000€. It was very interesting to see that even new Ravensburger puzzles from 1978 were under 100€. Maybe this looks different on other continents (I am from Germany).
I love how much use Karen is getting out of her detective hat. 🕵️♀️
I have never done a jigsaw puzzle in my life, but I can't stop watching your videos! You radiate a zest for life that is so contagious! I always feel inspired after watching you. That might sound corny but you are legitimately helping me through some depression and I appreciate you so much for unabashedly sharing your passion with the world. You rock Karen!
Same, except I actually like doing puzzles as well😁
I bought the maze puzzle from Bits and Pieces so they may know more about them. If I remember, you have a contact there. There were three different mazes in red, blue, and green. The blue one you showed looks like the same pattern as the red one, but I'm pretty sure that all three mazes were different when they appeared in the catalog. I'll also send you email on a silver optic puzzle which looks like it could be part of the set of those puzzles which came in blue boxes, but mine is a different pattern. The puzzle actually fits inside the box, which is what the ones you showed looked like. Good luck with finding all the mysterious puzzles you want.
I love that the Detective Hats have become staple characters in the KarenPuzzles Cinematic Universe. 😂🎀💖
It was a great purchase!
I'm from Germany and i'm pretty sure you can just message the people on ebay in english and than you can buy the old krypt puzzels or others you can find there. You'll have to pay quite a bit of shipping I suppose, but I can't see a reason why you wouldn't be able to buy from there.
Hey am I the only one who really does like landscape puzzles?! I looooove solving the sky, especially when it's a sunset cuz it's just sooo pretty. And I also love solving grass, mountains and water because it is basically almost like a solid coloured puzzle with an interesting texture, which makes it so much more challenging and cool to solve!
I feel like it would be more interesting (at least for me) if it were an illustration rather than a photograph. 🤷🏾♀️
@@mxnjones check out the magic puzzle company! I loved them!!!! I recommend starting with the happy isles
@@kf10147 Those look so fun! Thank you!
I like landscape puzzles but i am really new to puzzles
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Okay Karen. I have been watching youtube forever (been watching beauty gurus since they were called beauty gurus) but never actually buy the products people show in videos. I had 0 puzzles, but within 3 weeks of finding your channel I have now purchased 3. You are the Ultimate Influencer. Lol. really though, your enthusiasm for puzzling has really inspired me to do more things just for the enjoyment of the activity. So thank you!
I haven’t put together a puzzle in years, stumbled across her videos when I was actually looking for chess puzzle videos 😂… but now I’m hooked. Andddddd I’ve bought two ravensburger puzzles, a 1000 and 2000 piece. So I second this mightily.
"Get it, because I'm in a square and in space." That made me literally laugh out loud. 🤣 You are too funny!
I love the evolution of your hobby and in turn your channel. You weren't too keen on solid color puzzles before and now we are here collecting solid color puzzles and being all detective on obscure and mysterious puzzles that not even the internet knows about.
Also the 70s: Shapeless patters and Patternless Shapes.
Oh come on! 😅😅
Im so early! I haven’t even started the video yet. I’m still watching the ads 😂
You're first!
I love this kind of videos, seeing someone so exited about sharing their favourite things in collections and the misterys around the items, such great content to binge. Can't wait for the next update on your findings!
So I looked into the Ravensburger graphic and the old crypt puzzles and you’re right here in Germany they really aren’t that hard to get, on eBay Kleinanzeigen I even saw to of the crypt ones for only 10€, so with a contact in Germany you should definitely be able to get your hands on those. I can definitely help out if you want🤗
there is also the ' Ravensburger Puzzle Design graphic 3 vintage 70er 60er' vor 40€ VB
It appears the best way to search for the Ravensburger Graphic puzzles is just to use those two words: Ravensburger (and maybe Ravensberger just in case) Graphic (and maybe Graphics as well). I noticed a Graphic 2 puzzle sold from a seller in Germany almost exactly a month ago for a reasonable price (excluding shipping). For some reason, though, even though the title included "Graphic 2", a completed item search for Ravensberger "Graphics 2" didn't show it.
Especially love your vintage puzzle videos! Whether you’re solving them, showing off your collection, or telling us the history of these obscure, gorgeous relics, I just eat up these videos! Keep up the great work, KP! ☺️
Ooh, I have some friends who work at Celanese. I wonder if they have a department or group that might be aware of that kind of company history... Not expecting anything, but I'll let you know if I ever can get any info about it.
These are my favorite videos of yours to watch. It intrigues me how many crazy puzzles have been made. But do you ever reverse image search the pictures of the puzzles? That might help locate it if someone has named it something else online.
Oh my gosh, okay, so I hadn't finished watching the video before I made my previous comment but I also remember having that Halley's Comet puzzle!!!!! I was absolutely *obsessed* with Halley's Comet as a kid!!! Yes, at 6 years old I was already a huge science nerd🤣 I had tons of Halley's Comet merch from back in the day, sadly it's all been lost to history! Embarrassingly enough, I don't think I ever finished the puzzle because it was just too hard for me back then 😭😅
The Eaton puzzles are interesting. Here in Canada we used to have a department store similar to Sears called Eaton's, and the font in their logo looked pretty much exactly like the one used on those puzzles. They filed for bankruptcy and closed down back in the late 90s. Eaton isn't exactly an uncommon name so probably not related, but fascinating. Also in the points listing for the coffee puzzle, it looks like the hidden word ends in "us" so maybe "genius"? Did I solve the mystery? lol I do a lot of thrift shopping and definitely always look at the puzzles, so I'm really hoping to come across one your holy grails someday to send to you!
I'm very new to your channel but I find your content and passion about your love of puzzles endearing.
Also, if you end up partnering with a puzzle making company I hope you come out with a series of puzzles called "Karen's Puzzles".
It looks like the "competitive puzzle" says "competitive jigsaw" on the puzzle? board? itself. Not that it granted anything helpful from a quick google either. Definitely mysterious!
Anyone who raises their prices just to sell her the puzzle, don't, you know it has been sitting under your bed for thirty years.
I hope everyone in the puzzle community is as nice as you 😅
It's not necessarily to sell it to her specifically, but suddenly the puzzle has been mentioned in a popular RUclips channel, which piques people's interest in it, and therefore raises the price. It happens all the time to Techmoan with vintage electronics which go way up in price after he makes a video about something. I'm sure it's common with anything vintage, collectible or otherwise rare after it's featured somewhere popular. DeLorean cars are a great example: they wouldn't be nearly as valuable without Back to the Future.
Your passion is amazing Karen! The fact that you found and talked with people who worked on them is huge! That deepdive is pretty interesting. Never knew vintage puzzles could be so cool
I’m just thrilled to hear that there exists a mysterious “puzzle grapevine!” Thanks for all the information. 🥰 I’d love to do any or all of the Graphic puzzles. They are so visually pleasing.
Looking forward to seeing progress in Karen’s hunt for these mysterious puzzles! I think my favourites would be the colourful graphic ones! Good luck, Karen!
You're one of TWO channels I have the notification bell on for, and every video popping up brightens my day so much 🥰
Karen going investigating journalist on Lawson and Lawson is awesome. Also, ‘Hagar the Horrible’ is one of my favourites!
Ok the Synergistics ‘81 Research Catalog looks awesome!
Mr. Chance saying “Culture is a cyclical thing, you know?” is so awesome! Karen and Mr. Chance really need to Collab.
well....I was able to find info on Lawson & Lawson by absolute random chance and some rooting around in the national archives but I haven't finished my digging. It seems that the copyright holder is a man named Tomas Lawson and he was (is?) an artist. Outside of these puzzles, there seems to be very little other 'game' type work that he's done. Most of his art is small scale sculpture; small pieces you'd have on a desk or side table. What's crazy is that my dad owned one of these sculptures (and I'm sure it's still in storage) as we owned a house right near Wilton, CT. However, I haven't been able to find anything about the puzzles or any current info about him yet. I'll keep you posted!
Karen, my late dad was an avid jigsaw puzzler back in the day, and we kids would buy him ones like the solid color and op-art ones back in the 1970s - 80s. When he passed in 2017 none of us wanted them, and we Goodwilled the entire collection. So I can't send you anything, but would recommend thrift stores as a possible source for folks looking for puzzles.
OMGOSH!! I went to look for the puzzle before watching the whole video, and I found the same puzzle, and you must have been the one that they said sold!! I was so hoping to send you a link to it!! Your too good!!
OKOK WAIT
I was looking at the video (super interesting as usual 😍) feeling a bit useless because as an Italian I cannot help with any of these USA puzzle hunting BUT THEN I SAW MILANO???
I’ve never heard of any terrific maze craze puzzles but as soon as I have time I’ll do a bit of research because maybe there will be some info on Italian websites 💪🏻
What's mysterious to me is that I don't enjoy doing jigsaw puzzles, myself, but I enjoy your videos! 🙂
The idea of losing a bidding war over something called "the frustrator" is so ironic.
I don't have any mysterious puzzles, but I do have some old Waddington's Jigmap puzzles and circular puzzles from my grandparent's loft - made in the early 60s, complete with an unhealthy dose of good old British colonialism.
With all these hunts for rare puzzles and all the info you gather about them and the deepdive into the those $100000 dollar ones you can write a book soon about puzzles!
I already told Karen that she is the next Anne Williams, but she doesn't believe me LOL! If her dad wrote a book, why can't Karen? ! I know that some readers tell Karen they are not puzzlers, but love to watch her videos....so maybe she is not wanting to be a writer, but just a researcher, but if she decides to write one, I'm certain readers AND puzzlers will certainly buy her book!!!
Question, do the wet paint puzzles use the same die cutter? Could you theoretically used two or more of them to make a multi colour version?
Yes, they're the exact same cut! I can definitely mix and match once I have all of them.
I've been binging all your videos! i'm on part 4 of the Life puzzle now. i had no idea all of these unique puzzles existed. i can't wait to get back into puzzling! 🥰 ily.
You should make shorts of this to get your message out calling for leads on these puzzles...... just an idea, couldn't hurt.
So many rare and awesome puzzles! I'll have to try to keep them in mind when going to thrift stores and yard sales.
There is a yellow wet paint puzzle video on RUclips by a RUclipsr called kitepwr, it was posted 2 years ago though?
I don't have any of these, but have this comment to boost engagement!!
If I go to any yard sales, I'll keep an eye out for puzzles!
Karen here being the bravest of them all by filming her type in a Google search and letting us see what the predictive words are. Whew!
Another great video!
After discovering your channel I bought my Mom a 1000 piece puzzle for Christmas,
AND SHE'S STILL WORKING ON IT!
Keep up the good work. I'm always looking forward to your next. 💖
I have the Frustrator. I'm sending you an e-mail.
Hi Karen...have a look at Curiosity Inc's latest vid....he has bought a storage unit with alot of vintage puzzles...some closer to 70/80 years old....
Cher once said that you should be your own rich man. Karen almost took it literally and we love it lol
This episode: "The Case of the Mysterious Vintage Puzzles" featuring Detective Karen!🧐
The Coffee Puzzle Point Distribution is indeed snarky. What writing 😂
7:55 you searched "op-art part i" not "op-art part 1"
Mysterious
I love all of your deep-research videos and I really loved this one.
One copy of the Graphic III from Ravensburger is mine, but it reminds me to my childhood, because my brother and I puzzled it several times together. It is really beautiful and worth to have. But there are actual similar puzzles available from Remember, a company from Krefeld, Germany. I just love their mysterious designs. ❤
commenting so this video goes viral n gets a billion views so that Karen can find her yellow Wet Paint puzzle
as a puzzle nerd and internet detective nerd myself, this video was such a treat to watch! i hope you can find some of these elusive puzzles. maybe one day you'll start your own puzzle museum haha.
You would probably love my 80ies ‚Where is Waldo‘ jigsaw with only Waldos on it! 😂
The think puzzles are not really rare, I might have one in my basement, will check. 😊
ebay Kleinanzeigen is basically german craigslist. You're right, they don't seem to be rare over here. If you need a contact in Germany I'd be willing to help.
I've seen the think krypt puzzles here in Germany at eBay Kleinanzeigen quite offen before. It actually shouldn't be a problem to get in touch with the sellers to order them....if the person does speak English. Otherwise I could help out and order and collect them for you and send them over.
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I kind of wish you'd try putting together the patternless shapes puzzle. It's so different from any other puzzle I've seen. I'd really like to see if you find it easy or difficult, frustrating or fun, etc. If it's fun, it would be cool to see puzzles like that back on the market.
Such a mysterious puzzle video. I love those graphic ones the best
Watching this while on a puzzle break 😊 I was going cross eyed, lol
I love that there's a "puzzle grapevine" !
Good luck and happy hunting. I think puzzlement would be the one I want to do. A mysterious person who may or may not have it just adds to the fun
I love how she takes us on her decetive journeys with us. It's actually very interesting to learn about the history of these puzzles.
WOW!! What a goal! Good luck with your "mysterious" treasure hunt! I will keep an eye out as I surf the web.
Karen i keep my eye open for interesting puzzles for you everytime i hit the thrift stores and yard sales. Im glad you decided to let us know what you are looking for as it will help the search. Good Luck!
A pun about square and space? I love it and I’m here for it 🔥
I started a couple of collections years ago but soon I realized that I only wanted the rare and unique versions of those things; so I had to stop because it was very difficult and expensive, really impossible to get them.
I don't find it interesting to collect things that are not rare, unique and everyone can get, but that's just me. I truly hope that you find your holy grail puzzles Karen. Keep posting please.
That introduction!!! I am already cracking up!! 🤣🤣🤣
I jumped up with excitement! I have one of the Ravensburger puzzels!! The middle one at 26:45
I'm watching this quite a bit after it was uploaded, but I just found 2 of the Ravensburger Graphic III puzzles on eBay if you're still looking
I hope one day you can do a video of jigsaw puzzle arranging with those creators or designer with those rare puzzles.
your keyword was mysterious enough to fit in a vintage puzzle sentense. 🤫
Karen, this was very interesting. Can you do a review of online puzzles? My favorite is Jig-Zone, they have multiple puzzles, you can change the shapes and change the number of pieces. One of the shapes is also triangles plus it has a timer so you know how long it takes you to complete.
If you like rare vintage meta puzzles, look for the 1979 "The Shmuzzle Puzzle" by Shmuzzle Inc. I had the Vintage THE SHMUZZLE PUZZLE SP-111 Salamanders Shmuzzola Party 168 Pieces.
I feel like I have a collection of rare puzzles of my own through you 😆
I love those Ravensburger Graphic puzzles, but have never seen one here on the fleamarket in Ravensburg (the Krypt ones you can get for a handful of Euros all the time). In that time, they also released a series of extremely cool looking boardgames and card games in the "traveller series", with somewhat strange names like Sogo, Schaska, Miracle, Isola, Hepta, Peggino or Banda. Soon after that period, they went back to much lamer popular children's fare mostly...
The Lawson and Lawson Puzzle is twisted in the best way possible.
Hey Karen, that SAME puzzle, the APPLE 2 Puzzle from 1983 is still on eBay a year later... and yes, still asking $3,500.00 for it. ROFL
I love puzzles and mysteries, so puzzle mysteries like these are right up my alley! The Ravensburger Graphic designs were probably my favorite
Yay! I always get so happy when I see a new video of yours posted 😁
On the Apple 2 one, you might want to reach out to some of the retro computer RUclipsrs like LGR because it's possible that they either have one somewhere or know a guy who does!
I have the frustrator!!! Was just thinking you’d love it if you don’t have it already 😂 I haven’t tried to put it together and I got it from goodwill over a decade ago so there’s probably missing pieces. Would love to send it to you!
Aw shoot I just saw your instagram pic so you already have it.
Do you still want the ravensburger think. Krypt ones? They really are pretty cheap here in germany, I could try to get them for you :)
Come on, rich crossword puzzlers! If you have one of those apple computer puzzles, please donate it to Karen! It's practically the holy grail, just not for $3500!
I wonder if that's the Halley's Comet puzzle that was in the Orlando Science Center gift store in 1986. I see someone posted a completed version on Reddit and the first comment is about you missing 8 pieces and the second is "I was going to say that"
I have three puzzles (never had boxes) came with posters, that I have lost), of Formula One Cars from c1974 at Monaco. Are you interested in them , as my family are not. I would only want payment for the postage to the USA.
These newer solid Ravensburger Puzzle are as Well on eBay kleinanzeigen but They are a Bit More pricier because it was a collab With a famous photographer Here in germany. There are 2 colours available at the Moment the black and the Yellow. In you Want them I Could manage that Maybe :)
Have you done the worlds most difficult puzzle Larry the Leprechaun?
My grandpa owns an vintage ravensburger from about 1973. I guess that's the oldest he owns. Its a landscape design. I hope it's complete did not finish it yet.
I was wondering did you contact the Wilton Connecticut Public Library about Lawson and Lawson ? Libraries certainly know the town's history and companies.
The Vintage Circular Puzzle/Puzzlement looks as mysterious and chaotic as my brain.
Apple had expensive products and clearly they didn’t leave jigsaw puzzles lol
Always fun to watch one of your Rare/Vintage Puzzle videos, it’s interesting to learn all of these unknown “mysterious” puzzles to me! Personally I would love to do the Puzzlement puzzle since I love abstract colourful artwork on basically everything 😆😆
Loved this video :3 I hope you can get all of this *mysterious* puzzles :3
You can also look up 'Jan Van Haasteren' those are really fun puzzles, with little scenes of things going wrong in a specific setting with humans and animals (cartoons) . we have always such fun making them :D the biggest we've done was 5000 pieces (I think, it was a long time ago) and it was a snow setting really amazing
I took screenshots of the ones you are looking for. It would be great if your website had a wishlist. If I ever found anything you're looking for, I would probably just gift it to you.