SUPER LIGHTWEIGHT Full Frame Anamorphic! Sirui Saturn 35mm 1.6X
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2023
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The lightest full frame anamorphic lens is finally out in L mount and I took it out for a spin on the DJI RS3 Pro using DJI's autofocus feature!
Sirui Saturn 35mm:
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Now all we need is Panasonic to desqueeze 1.6x cmon Panny give the people what they want!
Why is it not coming ? 😢
Yes! Was so waiting for your review!
Thanks for a great review, getting mine this week and can't wait to try it 🥰📷
I just got it, for my S5, and immediately love the small size/light weight compared to my other anamorphics. Still learning it, but so far, nice.
Hey Tito, great video! I had the Sirui Saturn 35mm. I wasn't too crazy about the pin distortion. However, I think fixing it in post works best. Also, putting a Glimmer Glass 1 filter helps taking the sharpness off the picture a bit. I agree, its not a very fast lens but a the compromises weight more on the positives
Wow good review bro, you def have the review voice for sure I enjoyed it! Hope you make more of these
I'm so glad they're making more focal lengths. I want this lens but I'm waiting for an available set.
I just wish they'd go a little wider. A 24 would really help.
@@alfonsojarago 100% agree. 35mm stretched for full frame is pretty wide but a full frame 24mm anamorphic would be incredible!
Im excited, a bigger squeeze factor for Fuji somewhat natively!
Got it last week. It's dope :D, combined with my S5IIX. I just only need 0.5 diopter for some close-ups.
Great news there are other focal lengths coming. Are focus and aperture rings places the same on Saturn and Venus? I cannot find any info about it.
Seems now I need RS3 Pro with Lidar :D.
Sirui Saturn seems like a step in the right direction. I haven't messed with Sirui due to the inconsistent squeeze and overly saturated flares. I can correct the pincushion distortion and use diopters for closer focus. Now, offer an EF and PL option and I might have to pick one up.
Looking forward to the 60mm and the 90mm. Gonna be a game changer.
Wait, Sirui makes camera cages now?
Awwwww snap!!!!
Would love to see a similar comparison with the nanomorph line
Its the perfect travel companion! I have shot so much with it in exotic locations - mainly with the SONY A7SIII. Its also great for surreptitious shooting because it looks like you're taking pics with a standard telephoto lens! It doesn't quite deliver the spacial depth that I get with the big 75mm beast but for all-round ease of use - I love it. I will be sorely tempted by the 90mm version.
On Sony A7Siii you would get the aspect ratio of 2.83 with this lens! Its distractingly wide. You need open gate video recording for this 1.6x anamorphic lens.
Seems pretty nice, but really would trade a little size/weight for a faster aperture like maybe T1.5 or so. I would say this is even mostly useful mostly for those wide and high shots
As this lens is made for full frame coverage, when you use it on a camera with an aps-c sensor like the fx30 for example, will the characteristics around the edges be less prominent? (like e.g. distortion) Additionaly the aperture value of 2.9 would give you more depth of field on an aps-c sensor. Would there still be enough seperation to the background?
I have the 35mm Saturn and plan on using it on my BMCC6K in 3:2 whenever it ends up shipping. I am wondering though what would be the most useful second focal length to purchase? I shoot primarily TV commercials and short films. I worry 50mm might be too similar to the 35. Would you advice going with the 75 for my second lens? Or even longer? Thanks so much. Love your videos. @anamorphiconabudget
I like this anamorphic full frame, lightweight lens. If it had faster apperture I would like it even more. Thanks for the review!
Yeah, I think they will be good lenses for DJI 4D 8K. I didn't quite understand how good the sharpness was at T2.9. Was it good or rather okay?
I know this one is fairly wide, but for image continuity, I wish they’d add a 24mm or wider. I’d like to use these on my C70 and R5c but the 35mm isn’t very wide. If they did 24, it’d have to have a MUCH better close focus though. Also, 60mm and 90mm are interesting choices. I’ll be excited to see how those look! So glad they have a neutral flair option.
Great review again!!! You mentioned Sirui has confirmed a Saturn 60mm and 90mm, do you have any information when they will appr. release these two new lenses? And there have been rumors, that Sirui will release a new line of fullframe T 2.0 lenses this summer, do you know any think about that? Many thanks & best regards from Munich!
Look like the Nanomorph is quite more powerfull and better smooth flaring. But without external monitor, how do you focus in the camera ? As it's quite hard over laowa and focus peek not working much...
What is the name of this cute range finder device? Going through double focus hell quite often on a large format anamorphic lens setup and this looks nifty.
Incredibly you have just matched the name of the lens with your shirt hahahaha nice! 😊
hey Tito, thanks for this excellent review. I am actually a happy user of the great joy 85 mm 1x8 on my S% and I am looking for a 35mm. I am evaluating the great joy 35 mm 1.8 and this new 35 mm from sirui. they both have pro and cons... actually I was hoping GJ rebuild the 35 mm but I must say this new sirui looks kinda good and super light weight. Just not very convinced to manage my workflow pairing a 1x8 and a 1.6... mumble mumble ;)) thanks again for your precious advices1
Once they drop a 60mm I'm grabbin' it!
GreatJoy has a 60mm. It's f#@king awesome
I'm so excited for this lens and the two upcoming. Did you use it with the 3x2 mode on the S5ii? That's the combination I'm hoping to run.
Hopefully not with a moving camera, the RS will be intense
This whole video was filmed on 3:2 with the Saturn. And Lucas is correct. Wild movements will show off the intense rolling shutter.
I'm looking to rent an anamorphic lens for this same purpose: a great talking head video that will enlarge my studio. I did see you have a solid rig with what looks like 'lidar'. Would I have to invest in such equipment to keep the focus on me ALL the time or do you think I can get away with sharp videos if I were to stay still? I'd also love to use it for anamorphic photography. What are your thoughts?
All these "meh" anamorphics only use pointless mounts. They know the pros don't want them, so I guess they don't even bother using PL or EF with proper ends. At least Loawa and Great Joy had the mounts, just limited versions of them.
The point is, we still don't have any decent options under $6k. It's a shame, but we can hope.
Excellent. Thank you for this review and thoughts. I currently have the Sirui Venus 50mm t2.9 1.6x. It’s really controlled well for pincushion distortion. I was concerned by going to the 35mm Saturn due to its excessive pincushion distortion. I did see you are using Davinci Resolve to correct distortion. Do you have any distortion corrected 35mm Saturn footage you could please share? The samples you shared here were un-corrected, as they should of been for this review. I’m loving the S5IIX !
intesting aspect.. Sirui themselve say that the Saturn Version uses sophisticated aspherical lenses, which is not known for the Venus version... I would wish a direct comparison of both lens types for the following categories: distortion, vignetting, sharpness and contrast..
I usually don't correct it, as it biases the review. For the real world test shots, I try to keep it just to the lens, lut and that's it. No stabilizing, cropping, sharpening, or fixing. You can download THIS video, and run it through Resolve to check how it looks with fixed distortion!
can you try to test the lumix S5 mark 2 ‘s IBIS on anamorphic with handheld ?
This had IBIS on, just wasn't handheld. But some of my other videos are, and unless it's a locked off shot, IBIS is always on.
Anamorphic lenses are addictive....say "no" kids.
i sold my 35mm, for me wide anamorphics are not that interesting but i would love to get the new lenses they make and then as an addition maybe i will buy the 35mm again. it is nice but i basically let the diopter always on to get closer to the subject ... right now i switched to the blazar adapter but maybe i change back to sirui if they are cool or keep both i will see xD ... i use the lenses on the ronin 4d btw. and imo it is an amazing camera for anamorphic becaue the movement of the flares is not as nervous as on other solutions
3:27 that dude is tall up to 2x, longer than the 1.6x : D
The lens may work for some projects where you want some focus in the back with elements of the story, but otherwise, not for staying focused on the main subject, so may be good for vlogging and documentary and certain things, but i love its lighter look
I bought the 50 nanomoprh. I think for the price its OK. Although a bit soft wide open. But thats ok for me, wide open I dont neet to add a black pro mist. 😅
You said the sirui in this video is the same lens design as the nanomoprhs? I would think too to be honest, i think they only have slightly different front element
I'd love for Sirui to make a lens like this for Nikon F mount... man, to be able to take anamorphic photos in 35mm negative on Kodakchrome 100 is my dream...
I can’t find any information on the upcoming focal lengths! Where did you hear this? When can we expect these?
I heard it directly from Sirui at NAB, but also haven't found any info since then!
When can we expect 60 and 90mm hitting the market?
thank you again for there interesting update....but actually I think it is important to remain objective... the lens tube is not (completely) made from carbon: this is only the case with the front part of the tube, and it looks and feels as if it the carbon is wrapped around a thinner aluminum-tube... to be cleared (by the manufacturer) but generally it is a nice and welcome approach to make anamorphic filming and shooting more popular 👍👍👍
Does the DJI LiDAR focus module have a preset for the 35mm Saturn? Or do you have to calibrate it manually? If you do have to do it manually, once done does it work ok?
It has a preset for it, and it works pretty great! I'm using it *today*!
@@AnamorphicOnABudget oh that’s fantastic. I tried to use the LiDAR on a sigma cine lens, the focus system is none linear on the sigmas, so setting 2 calibration points doesn’t take into account that the focus speed change’s through the throw, so it doesn’t work.
I’ve been looking at this lens for a while but I was waiting for a set. Now the 50 and 75 are announced I might get all 3.
Have you used the 50 and 75 yet? Did you get to test them? I basically don’t trust anyone else’s opinion.
Hey, on what camera have you shot the A Roll in this video and If you shoot with 1.6x anamorphic lenses in 4:3 format what aspect ratio you end up with?
I used the S5II. 4:3 = 4/3 = 1.33 * 1.6 = 2.12:1 aspect ratio
@@AnamorphicOnABudget thanks for the reply, very nice looking footage out of S5II, have you shot on V Log right, maybe raw too? And thanks for the explanation of the aspect ratio when shooting in 4:3 with an anamorphic 1.6x!
Dagnabbit, wish they would do some EF mounts. I like sirui anamorphics but they just don't do EF (which I guess I understand given they would then be competing with Laowa etc.).
Does the pin-cushioning change with the focal length or aperture?
Great vid as always Tito!
EF is expensive. Regarding the distortion, it's just that: distortion. Nothing else.
@@AnamorphicOnABudget Is it just due to the distances from the sensor that makes it expensive or licensing?
Thx for the info man, you're a legend.
Do the gears line up with the other venus anamorphics?
I don't have the others anymore to compare! hahahaha
I was waiting for this review. Shame its too short. How does it compare to the Great Joy 1.8?
The same way the Venus compares, except lighter.
@@AnamorphicOnABudget Thank you. I love u ❤️
Has anybody a good workaround for correcting the cushion distortion in Premiere Pro? Is there something like a „lens correction“ plugin? 😅
I don't think so, and I was just talking about it with someone else yesterday. :(
Where did you hear about the 60mm and 90mm? I can't find anything.
Directly from Sirui folks, at NAB and Cinegear.
What is the diffrence between the Sirui Saturn & Venus line ?
The construction. I believe they are optically the same, with the Saturn having other flare options.
What is the effect when using fujis x-mount...because it's not full frame?
more sharpness
less wideness
A 60mm?? Yes please.
How do you feel about this compared to the Viltrox?
I'm liking Viltrox better, but that's really a taste thing.
@@AnamorphicOnABudget Thank you.
Where does the information about 60mm and 90mm come from?
Sirui directly. I talked to them at NAB back in April.
@@AnamorphicOnABudget Thx. Any info on the dates? Not sure I have to start saving :D.
@@JoATTech No info. Also in the dark.
@@AnamorphicOnABudget :( and thx :D
I really wish they could offer a lens that does look so sharp. I’d rather have detail than sharpness
What the hell are you even talking about
So light, so light... then you shoulder rig it with v-mount battery, external monitor with a transmitter, matte box, remoter follow focus motor...
If the lens doesn't add two or three pounds to the build, that's helpful. hahaha
@@AnamorphicOnABudget It depends. When I started filmmaking I remember using a miniDV camcorder on shoulder rig and for counter balance I just taped a 4KG dumbbell. It worked just fine :) And another thing was a flycam for walking shots. That camcorder weighted about 600 grams and you can't balance flycam because camera must by at least 1KG so I added lead weights from fishing equipment to get the balance.
@@ZvilgantisKailis Hahaha, same for me. I never got the hang of the flycam though! Just handheld to stay consistent with my country's tradition (Brazil).
Just not a big fan of this lens, I don't care for the reaaally noticable distortion and I'd prefer not to "fix" it in post. Ive got their 50mm 1.33x for APSC which I really like, although for my style it feels way too tight. I think in the future I'd maybe consider their larger Venus range, as of yet I think they've got the edge on everybody else still.
Agree. Also, I would prefer a barrel distortion, like you see in Wes Anderson movies etc. This looks more unnatural.
It has the name on it "anamorphic" but does it have the game? I'd say no. Even if the spec sheet says it's 1.6x squeeze. It doesn't have a single anamorphic character. No flares no oval bokeh and no distortion. I bet it's hardly distinguishable from a 24mm spherical lens.
2 aspects here to consider: 1. there are some anamorphic characteristics, but due to the wider perspective, they are not as strong as with longer focal lengths 2. it not a really front anamorphic construction, the anamorphic bloch seems to be put in the middle or first third of the elements... as I understand, the anamorphic effects are weaker the more the anamorphic block is put to the back of the lens and nearer to the sensor..
👍🏾🙏🏾
massive distrotion!
no Z mount so its a no from me
First
Pin cushion distortion 🤮
Barrel distortion 😎
All that green light in the background. I'm starting losing respect for you
2:10 - when the optics are the same, what's the point in chosing one over the other? Or is it just when you need the cinebulk to impress clients?
2:53 I am aware it's a figure of speech, but there's really nothing fair about it :o
The bokeh seems very subtle and displeasing, but at least the answer to "how wide does it go" is finally answered: "yes"
on another note. The coatings are very green, but they obviously don't bother when a tiny flashlight is used. What about natural light like the sun, which gets nasty green flares out of common modern lenses - would the Sirui also turn on here?
HAHAHAHA, I can't do anything about spring! I'm not wiling to stop filming. But I'll think about ways to disguise it.
2:10 - yeah, I also don't get it.
2:53 - touché. Maybe my wording plays it down. It is really intense.
I just stepped outside to check sun flares: the streaks stay neutral, but most of the spherical flares are green toned. A pass for Lucas.
@@AnamorphicOnABudget I'm not the enemy. But you really should hide the lens, just in case Oli notices
@@LucasPfaffI see you Lucas. Don’t worry, this green flaring, overly sharp, pincushioning, bad close focusing, poor maximum aperture doorstop will not be coming anywhere near me. It seems to fail in every category I consider critical. Oh at least it’s constant 1.6x I suppose! And thanks Tito as always for the hard work.
@@OliKember yeah, I'd imagine you'd love the slightly-larger-than-Mercury-stretch
Dear Friend. Is there a way to put an anamorphic lens on a Nikon F mount? Thank you for your videos and for your time.
actually that seems not possible technically: the other way round it would be possible - you can adapt an SLR lens to a mirrors system, because of the differing optical construction with considers the "mirror box" and lets space for an adapter... but mirrors constructions are to close to the sensor for using an adapter
Lots of ways, check my older videos on anamorphic adapters.
@@AnamorphicOnABudget Thanks for giving me hope. I will check your videos.