The one thing i want to see is cannons to get massively buffed in power but also massively nerfed in how many you build. During the napoleonic wars the biggest battle was the battle of Leipzig where the french only had 700 cannons and the coalition had 1,500. Regiment size for cannons in eu5 seems to go from 50 in Renaissance to 1200 in age of revolutions. That plus the fact that cannons only fire once might help with the complete ahistorical nature of eu4 where you build 36k cannons in 1510 and they constantly fire down at the battle while your soldiers are head to head with the enemy. Cannons made up 0.00something% of the biggest battle of the napoleonic wars but in eu4 the ai is hardcoded to want 25% cannon armies before tech 11 and after tech 11 they are coded to want to build 50% cannon armies which is insane
@Kuba-Er quite literally. Imagine the logistics of going on campaigns with 36k cannons, each weighing around 9 tons by the 1600s irl. That's an army moving around with 324k tons behind it. Literal trains invented 250 years later only carried a max of 74 tons. I would need 4 trains at maximum capacity to move around the army i make in eu4 by 1520
@@afridge8608 tbf the just because a cannon regiment is of 1000 sizes doesn't mean it has thousands cannons. It is just a representation of cannon taking more resources
i love this, when you fight a big war and have a massive battle that will decide the fate of the war, the fact that you can slow down to hour by hour and watch the battle is great detail, but i hope since they're going to such detail they make it so that you can manually adjust different things during the battle, maybe moving regiments to different sections, order certain regiments to retreat and order a cavalry charge at a specific time, that would be amazing.
I do not believe that will be the case. From what the diary said, it will probably be very similar to eu4 where units just attack the same every tick, and will try to reinforce wherever there is a hole. The biggest differences are you can decide how many men start on the flanks/center/reserves at the beginning of a battle, and reinforcements take time to reinforce the battle like in hoi4
@grimgorironside I think Johan mentioned things like tactics could be modded in, but as something that happens outside of combat and just applies a modifier to the armies. I wouldn't have very high hopes for what you're talking about, although recent pdx games have been quite moddable so I wouldn't put it past a very dedicated person to be able to overall the combat system like that eventually.
@Bleiser3 as I wrote, for a big decisive battle you can micro it by lowering the speed to have it tick hourly and if you speed it up it just automates the battle like normal, it's just an addition not a requirement.
Jeśli bitwy trwały by dni to zaawansowanie i inwestycja w medyków mogłaby przywracać do bitwy jakiś procent broken units, może jakieś akcje lub działania, które by odnawiały morale, jak np. zabicie generała czy coś co by sprawiało, że w bitwach szala się może różnie przechylić
As a hoi4 player, I see the implementation of hour-tick into Europa Universalis worrying. The system works well in Hearts of Iron, where you basically have one or two major wars throughout the whole campaign. But eu5 will have a plenty of such wars, and they won't be world wars! Imagine what happens on multiplayer, when France, Ottomans, Poland, China and Ethiopia all have major war after one another. The game is slowed down for sooo long! Another thing to remember is that hoi4's tick system is used only for 12 years of the game (1936-48) in contrast to 500 years of eu5. While I feel this is a neutral change for singleplayer (most ppl will still play on speed 4/5 as per usual), shit might hit the fan in multiplayer...
Battles in EU4 were ridiculously long compared to historical standards, as most battles were only 1 day (a few hours actually), 2 days were rare and 3 days (Leipzig) were exceptional. Unless outright stackwiping the enemy it felt more like WW1.
@@Duke_of_Lorraine Totally agree, but so is the case with almost every pdx game, and its one of those things I always accepted as casulties of having a balance between realistic and fun gameplay. But wars and battles are only one of so many aspects in eu5 (contrary to hoi4 which is a wargame), so having the whole time flow adjusted just for it to be more realistic seems like a risky move.
I have around 400 hours in March of eagles and I'm really happy the combat system found some love. It's basically the only good thing about the game and I was missing it in Eu4. Also nice to know it won't take long for me to figure out combat in EU5
Nice video but you painting the text while reading it makes following the video hard. I wanted to read along to better understand what you are saying/reading by following along in the text but the green font just made harder to read.
Dice rolls instead of tactics is a big mistake. Also I don't agree with the way generals are being done, but probably not something many people will care about.
I really hope they have a better logistics system in place for EU5. I shouldn't be able to support 10s of thousands of men in Sub-Saharan Africa in the 1500s... Also didn't like how you could have Egyptian troops fighting in western France a decent logistical system to limit things like that or at least have a supply chain I could exploit
9:45 agreeed. But I wish Paradox would keep their terminology consistent. If something works more or less like in EU4 then why change it's name? Like newbies will be confused anyway. But veteran player would loose some of "in home" feeling (like I bet you that every veteran player will recognize ducats and menpower and their purpose). It's not like EU5 won't be change a little so there is nothing to learn, quite opposite in fact. I have gut feeling that it just dilludes the game to seem like there is more content to discover by fans and everyone who played RPGs or designed them will admit - finding a treasure chest only to find it empty from time to time only leads to dissapointment, resentment and irritation as well as less care. To clarify - I don't think that will kill the project, ofc no but I don't see the reason to make expercience less enjoyfull and immersive for no apparent reason
And after another 6 years of patching the game would be playable. I just don't see any hype man. I no longer wait for any new games from Paradox. After CK3 and Vicky 3 and everything it is so meh. You gonna get a broken at launch game with no content. Paradox became a bad developer. That's sad.
EU5 'Tinto Talks' playlist - ruclips.net/p/PLQYwQrZmzDdJKoAdugXTp-g6fG0AI7dNd
will we see polish hussars with their historically accurate laser shooting helmets and mecha-horses?
Forgot about raptor mounts
Of course
They still will struggle against Prussian Space Marines
Second only to the Terminator Space Marine Swedish Caroleans. Because Sweden is balanced.
"not like victoria 3"
all i wanted to know ♥
The one thing i want to see is cannons to get massively buffed in power but also massively nerfed in how many you build. During the napoleonic wars the biggest battle was the battle of Leipzig where the french only had 700 cannons and the coalition had 1,500. Regiment size for cannons in eu5 seems to go from 50 in Renaissance to 1200 in age of revolutions. That plus the fact that cannons only fire once might help with the complete ahistorical nature of eu4 where you build 36k cannons in 1510 and they constantly fire down at the battle while your soldiers are head to head with the enemy. Cannons made up 0.00something% of the biggest battle of the napoleonic wars but in eu4 the ai is hardcoded to want 25% cannon armies before tech 11 and after tech 11 they are coded to want to build 50% cannon armies which is insane
Amatures talk about the wepons, profesionals think about logistics
@Kuba-Er quite literally. Imagine the logistics of going on campaigns with 36k cannons, each weighing around 9 tons by the 1600s irl. That's an army moving around with 324k tons behind it. Literal trains invented 250 years later only carried a max of 74 tons. I would need 4 trains at maximum capacity to move around the army i make in eu4 by 1520
@@afridge8608 tbf the just because a cannon regiment is of 1000 sizes doesn't mean it has thousands cannons. It is just a representation of cannon taking more resources
I always assumed it was 1k men representing men defending and supplying cannons perhaps a few guns a reg. Thats at least my head cannon
@@stephensol528 exactly, it was my point of view as well
i love this, when you fight a big war and have a massive battle that will decide the fate of the war, the fact that you can slow down to hour by hour and watch the battle is great detail, but i hope since they're going to such detail they make it so that you can manually adjust different things during the battle, maybe moving regiments to different sections, order certain regiments to retreat and order a cavalry charge at a specific time, that would be amazing.
I do not believe that will be the case. From what the diary said, it will probably be very similar to eu4 where units just attack the same every tick, and will try to reinforce wherever there is a hole. The biggest differences are you can decide how many men start on the flanks/center/reserves at the beginning of a battle, and reinforcements take time to reinforce the battle like in hoi4
@skanderbeg152 that's too bad, perhaps it can be modded in, though I doubt it.
@grimgorironside I think Johan mentioned things like tactics could be modded in, but as something that happens outside of combat and just applies a modifier to the armies. I wouldn't have very high hopes for what you're talking about, although recent pdx games have been quite moddable so I wouldn't put it past a very dedicated person to be able to overall the combat system like that eventually.
that sounds too tedious to do for every single battle that can happen simultaneously in the game. Doesn't sound fun at all.
@Bleiser3 as I wrote, for a big decisive battle you can micro it by lowering the speed to have it tick hourly and if you speed it up it just automates the battle like normal, it's just an addition not a requirement.
I really like the combat width changing with terrain. It makes so much more sense than defender dice roll bonus
Used to be the case in EU4 as well.
@@tarunyadav3567 both were in EU4, both are logical. Hills forests & rivers help whoever is defending after choosing their position.
Napoleonic era confirmed ! (Put my hand on my stomack in my jacket) hon hon hon, très bien.
Jeśli bitwy trwały by dni to zaawansowanie i inwestycja w medyków mogłaby przywracać do bitwy jakiś procent broken units, może jakieś akcje lub działania, które by odnawiały morale, jak np. zabicie generała czy coś co by sprawiało, że w bitwach szala się może różnie przechylić
As a hoi4 player, I see the implementation of hour-tick into Europa Universalis worrying. The system works well in Hearts of Iron, where you basically have one or two major wars throughout the whole campaign. But eu5 will have a plenty of such wars, and they won't be world wars! Imagine what happens on multiplayer, when France, Ottomans, Poland, China and Ethiopia all have major war after one another. The game is slowed down for sooo long!
Another thing to remember is that hoi4's tick system is used only for 12 years of the game (1936-48) in contrast to 500 years of eu5. While I feel this is a neutral change for singleplayer (most ppl will still play on speed 4/5 as per usual), shit might hit the fan in multiplayer...
Battles in EU4 were ridiculously long compared to historical standards, as most battles were only 1 day (a few hours actually), 2 days were rare and 3 days (Leipzig) were exceptional. Unless outright stackwiping the enemy it felt more like WW1.
@@Duke_of_Lorraine Totally agree, but so is the case with almost every pdx game, and its one of those things I always accepted as casulties of having a balance between realistic and fun gameplay. But wars and battles are only one of so many aspects in eu5 (contrary to hoi4 which is a wargame), so having the whole time flow adjusted just for it to be more realistic seems like a risky move.
Victoria 3 does this poorly as well, you think they would have coded a switch that only tracks days if large countries are at war.
I have around 400 hours in March of eagles and I'm really happy the combat system found some love. It's basically the only good thing about the game and I was missing it in Eu4. Also nice to know it won't take long for me to figure out combat in EU5
4:44 I would rather see food consunption as admin trait since it's about logistics rather than yapping
@@rotmistrzjanm8776 let's see how logistics work in next dd
I guess he's convincing the troops to eat less?
Mientras ni se parezca a la mecánica del Victoria..
I really hope this game will be good
2:15 we are so back.
I wanted the combat system to be similar to ck2, and it looks like it is. Just without tactics, but we'll get over it.
Nice video but you painting the text while reading it makes following the video hard. I wanted to read along to better understand what you are saying/reading by following along in the text but the green font just made harder to read.
Thanks for the feedback
@@ZlewikkTV you are welcome
15:05 Perhaps it could be done so that there is experience from practice and experience from a separate front.
Dice rolls instead of tactics is a big mistake. Also I don't agree with the way generals are being done, but probably not something many people will care about.
battles without dicerolls are so fucking lame, you have no clue what youre talking about
Omg,it will be playeble at least
im going to need a new pc for this game :(
I cant I give up
Please take as little inspiration as you can from the Vicky 3 combat system, please.
You dont have to say that, Johan is #1 hater of this system
I really hope they have a better logistics system in place for EU5. I shouldn't be able to support 10s of thousands of men in Sub-Saharan Africa in the 1500s... Also didn't like how you could have Egyptian troops fighting in western France a decent logistical system to limit things like that or at least have a supply chain I could exploit
9:45 agreeed. But I wish Paradox would keep their terminology consistent. If something works more or less like in EU4 then why change it's name? Like newbies will be confused anyway. But veteran player would loose some of "in home" feeling (like I bet you that every veteran player will recognize ducats and menpower and their purpose). It's not like EU5 won't be change a little so there is nothing to learn, quite opposite in fact.
I have gut feeling that it just dilludes the game to seem like there is more content to discover by fans and everyone who played RPGs or designed them will admit - finding a treasure chest only to find it empty from time to time only leads to dissapointment, resentment and irritation as well as less care.
To clarify - I don't think that will kill the project, ofc no but I don't see the reason to make expercience less enjoyfull and immersive for no apparent reason
Victoria's 3 combat was so awful, that paradox went out of their way to tell we will not have it in EU5, lol.
It's also because Johan is #1 hater of it
Projekt Cesar is more like fusion of ever Paradox game most EU4 and Victoria
And after another 6 years of patching the game would be playable. I just don't see any hype man. I no longer wait for any new games from Paradox. After CK3 and Vicky 3 and everything it is so meh.
You gonna get a broken at launch game with no content. Paradox became a bad developer. That's sad.
Have some faith in Johan and Tinto :)
@@ZlewikkTV I do have. I believe the game would be playable someday :D and not in endless testing like Vicky 3. I wish you guys the best like always.
@@ZlewikkTV It's hard when Johan's track record of releases isn't the greatest
@@HMoore615Johan at least makes it known he learned from their past mistakes. We will just have to wait and see if the game is good though.
I remember the times when EU4 wasn't a develop clickfest and arbitrary mission buffs.
First
Technically, Zlewikk was first.
Good lord the heavy accent denies me the good content
I will try captions
Fvck the tower of babel