Inside Jimmy's Mind: How Karen Nearly Got Whacked

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  • Опубликовано: 29 дек 2022
  • Jimmy Conway eliminates practically everyone associated with the 1978 Lufthansa theft at JFK Airport. Karen Hill, his closest friend's wife, is one among those he accuses of knowing too much. Given his deteriorating state of mind, he would want her dead.
    But did he truly intend to murder her? And what difference would this have made?
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  • @hkmadness2693
    @hkmadness2693 Год назад +2477

    Karen went into witness protection, got a degree in psychiatry, assumed a new identity as jennifer melfi, and became Tony sopranos shrink.

    • @billyraynashiii2861
      @billyraynashiii2861 Год назад +19

      😆

    • @Hardy_H_H
      @Hardy_H_H Год назад +36

      I actually laughed at this 😝, that's funny and clever

    • @John-zm4xl
      @John-zm4xl Год назад +59

      She just couldn’t stay away from the life

    • @Lonovavir
      @Lonovavir Год назад +95

      It's amazing how many Goodfellas actors ended up in The Sopranos.

    • @masonorosco1090
      @masonorosco1090 Год назад +15

      @@John-zm4xl up until that point Karen was completely oblivious about the danger's of Mob life. After that happened I said "Still think Henry's paranoid Karen".

  • @joshuabrooks4907
    @joshuabrooks4907 Год назад +741

    It's kinda sad knowing that Paul and Ray passed within days of each other this year.

    • @MerlautJones
      @MerlautJones Год назад +33

      Oh Wow, I didn't know Paul had passed away too. : (

    • @ZyroShadowPony
      @ZyroShadowPony Год назад +10

      I didnt knew they both passed away

    • @1roundleft821
      @1roundleft821 Год назад +35

      Paul died 1.5 months after Ray. Not days.

    • @anthonyinzerillo2804
      @anthonyinzerillo2804 Год назад +26

      @@1roundleft821 that's like 45 days ;-)))

    • @hoviksmail
      @hoviksmail Год назад +8

      Just be happy we got to see them in a great performance.

  • @adrianchannelle8651
    @adrianchannelle8651 Год назад +499

    Jimmy said earlier in the film that Karen gets over emotional and excited. She was unpredictable. Karen was a loose end.

    • @thedangerwich5476
      @thedangerwich5476 Год назад +9

      Okay jimmy.

    • @frankwhite8530
      @frankwhite8530 Год назад +3

      🎯

    • @shaunsteele6926
      @shaunsteele6926 Год назад +36

      nah nah, you insulted her a little

    • @MikeMulahMusic
      @MikeMulahMusic Год назад +16

      I mean, she literally pulled a gun out on her husband just because he’s outside a lot

    • @rockabillylaker
      @rockabillylaker Год назад +31

      @@MikeMulahMusic Actually, he was clearly having an affair too. Any woman would want to do the same.

  • @normancook965
    @normancook965 6 месяцев назад +23

    Jimmy was so sinister with his friendly and good-humoured demeanor as he tried to direct Karen to her death.

    • @Excremental_Discharge
      @Excremental_Discharge 2 месяца назад +1

      See, I don't think that's the case. Jimmy is too smart to loudly shout "go in there" where anyone on the street could see/hear and have her whacked in the warehouse. If she turned up missing and people found out (people as in regular pedestrians just walking down the street), they would immediately pin it on Jimmy.
      He could have been feeling her out, see how trusting she is of him in order to whack her at a later time

    • @SkLassi-en1ds
      @SkLassi-en1ds Месяц назад +1

      U gotta do what u gotta do

  • @erickennedy3322
    @erickennedy3322 Год назад +208

    Karen was smart to not go in that warehouse.

    • @DMalltheway
      @DMalltheway Год назад +7

      Was that even accurate to what really happened?

    • @dontknowwhattoput1900
      @dontknowwhattoput1900 Год назад +1

      Who knows ray Toyota

    • @BlkSox71
      @BlkSox71 Год назад

      @@dontknowwhattoput1900 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @woodyboy6493
      @woodyboy6493 Год назад +9

      Those guys made mistake by placing the boxes in a hurry to barracde entrance and looking obviously suspicious when theyade eye contact with her

    • @minorsnow5306
      @minorsnow5306 Год назад +8

      @@DMalltheway Karen has said she actually went into the room and left quickly and told henry the room looked like a trap

  • @jtshark9283
    @jtshark9283 Год назад +450

    There is one thing not mentioned in the movie but in the book and several other books. While Henry was away in jail, Karen had affairs with Jimmy, Big Paulie and a few others. Henry left that out of the movie out of respect for his wife and kids. One reason Big Paulie reported okaying the hit on Tommy was because had roughed up Karen because he felt left out

    • @pab1381
      @pab1381 Год назад +89

      That’s even worse when you think about it. Like as far as how awful Tommy was. He felt left out bc his boss and friends were banging the same woman which is one of his friends wives and he couldn’t so he beat her up. However I don’t believe it was John Gotti sr who killed Tommy.

    • @jtshark9283
      @jtshark9283 Год назад +98

      @@pab1381 The first thing about Henry Hill is that he is the most unreliable story teller. He was nowhere near the "guy" portrayed in Goodfellas. He was a low level hood but because he was around people, he saw stuff and when he got arrested he flipped quickly.

    • @davebrayfb
      @davebrayfb Год назад +86

      Henry didn't leave it out of the movie out of respect for his wife and kids, they weren't even together at the time,. Marty left it out of the movie for creative liberty reasons, and nothing to do with respecting anything. Henry barely had any control over what went into the movie anyway so it would not have been his call no matter the reason, I do think it's a better film with it left out anyway, the reason they were trying to bang Karen is because Henry wasn't really that respected as the movie made out, he was an alcoholic & Coke & pill addict, nobody had a lot of respect for him, they were nice to his face because he was a good earner.

    • @kyleg8292
      @kyleg8292 Год назад +1

      💡

    • @frankwhite8530
      @frankwhite8530 Год назад +2

      Makes Sense

  • @tellyjr100
    @tellyjr100 Год назад +17

    "We're not going to get a divorce. We're not animale."

  • @SDChargersFreak
    @SDChargersFreak Месяц назад +5

    In an scene that was edited out, we do see that when Karen goes into the place, an alarm goes off and confetti starts dropping everywhere, then a sign rolls down from the ceiling that says, "ONE MILLIONTH CUSTOMER!" She was given all kinds of prizes and people were cheering. Wisely, Scorsese decided it wasn't needed.

  • @Johnny.1965
    @Johnny.1965 Год назад +113

    I wanna see a movie about Jimmy two times, jimmy two times.

    • @chrismcnemar6705
      @chrismcnemar6705 Год назад +5

      Nah, Frankie Carbone, the one found frozen in the meat truck. 🥶

    • @maratonlegendelenemirei3352
      @maratonlegendelenemirei3352 Год назад +11

      F*ck that! Pete The Killer "Yeah, I took care of that 'thing' for you!" is the film I want to see!

    • @DavidThomas-fb8bq
      @DavidThomas-fb8bq Год назад +8

      How many times do you want to see that film? Two times.

    • @schumi9xwdc
      @schumi9xwdc Год назад +4

      Nah it would take 2x to tell!

    • @Johnny.1965
      @Johnny.1965 Год назад +9

      @@DavidThomas-fb8bq I'd probably watch it twice watch it twice...

  • @shawnmilstead4917
    @shawnmilstead4917 Год назад +89

    Jimmy didn't want to share the money. Like he said in Casino it's all about the dollars.

    • @robertrodriguez787
      @robertrodriguez787 Год назад +17

      No Jimmy wanted to Kill everyone off from that Heist that Could get him Pinched . Notice he had Stack Killed because he forgot to get rid of the Truck from the Heist they used and the Other Guy that Walked into the Bar with his Woman in a Mink Coat 🧥 and the Other Guy in the Bar that bought a New Cadillac. Jimmy was getting paranoid as the Movie went on . That's why Henry Knew Jimmy was going to have him Killed when he got Busted . With the Coke

    • @chrismcnemar6705
      @chrismcnemar6705 Год назад +4

      Nicki said that, but I guess he was referring to Sam.

    • @SuperYoungtank
      @SuperYoungtank Год назад +5

      He also wanted the money for himself once he realized how much it was yes he murder other people for being stupid with money so he eliminated them and also wanted to kill henry because henry was the last person who know about the heist lucky for Henry he caught selling drugs and the cops played him a tape of pulie and jimmy saying we will wack him that's what made henry snitch on them

    • @SuperYoungtank
      @SuperYoungtank Год назад +2

      Henry also said in court that he said to Jimmy you tried to get me mutafucka but I got you cocksucker

    • @chrismcnemar6705
      @chrismcnemar6705 Год назад +1

      @@SuperYoungtank pretty much the same with Gotti and Sammy, Gotti having that conversation behind Sammy's back could've got him killed, which led to Sammy testifying against Gotti.

  • @Pulsonar
    @Pulsonar Год назад +21

    I’m glad that she escaped the mob life and became a therapist for Tony Soprano 😂

    • @TL2354
      @TL2354 4 дня назад

      What’s so funny?

  • @citypopFM
    @citypopFM Год назад +28

    I've seen Goodfellas literally countless times but even when I first saw the film as a little kid, I always assumed Jimmy was 100% looking to either murder or kidnap Karen as a hostage. There were obviously no Dior dresses and a couple of sketchy ass guys who pause in silence upon seeing her peering at them so it was definitely not Karen imagining things. Plus Jimmy's expressions, yelling at her to go inside the building, and frustrated look after she drove away should cement that. It would make sense for Jimmy to intend to kill her right then and there due to his profound paranoia and murder-happy attitude about potential witnesses, but I had it more in my head he was looking to kidnap her as leverage against Henry to lure him over and murder him. Then he would have most definitely whacked Karen too.

  • @w41duvernay
    @w41duvernay Год назад +41

    KAREN was having an affair with Paulie, not talked about in the movie.

    • @D-Thang_
      @D-Thang_ Год назад +8

      Because it’s from Henry Hills point of view.

    • @Djrexda1
      @Djrexda1 5 месяцев назад

      I know it was a thing in real life but I don’t remember this movie actually addressing it

    • @AR-hw9zi
      @AR-hw9zi 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@Djrexda1 paulie knew how to talk to her, Especially Paulie.

    • @nobodynothing00000
      @nobodynothing00000 2 месяца назад +1

      They dropped a big hint but you have to be paying close attention to get it, it's not really overt.

    • @JetsetComedian
      @JetsetComedian 2 месяца назад

      ​@@AR-hw9zi comment of the ❤🎉 day

  • @VideoGameAutopsy
    @VideoGameAutopsy Год назад +137

    There were obviously no dresses in the warehouse, but I’ve always wondered what Jimmy’s plan here was. I’ve always felt that it was too late in the game to be killing people who were close to the heist, and Karen wasn’t even involved with that. My guess is that he was gonna either kidnap or kill her in order to lure Henry out of his mouse hole. But seeing how the mob doesn’t take prisoners, it seems more like the latter.

    • @gilltim5711
      @gilltim5711 Год назад +50

      If you listen very carefully to the dialog between the two workers in the warehouse, you'll hear them say to "move the box over there to block the window." Then they see her and go "shh, shh" so she doesn't hear them. They already had the plan to kill Karen. They were setting up the room to do that. She just got there a minute too early and overheard them.
      ruclips.net/video/RIzItfdrhvM/видео.html

    • @antbanks1261
      @antbanks1261 Год назад +11

      There was an individual inside ready to wreck shop on karen...

    • @antbanks1261
      @antbanks1261 Год назад +22

      @@gilltim5711 she saw them. And that was when she got the fuck outta there.... Jimmy Conway was foul...

    • @gilltim5711
      @gilltim5711 Год назад +47

      @@antbanks1261 Yes, she saw them setting up the crate to block the window. And she heard what they said. That is one of the creepiest moments in the film, or any film! How Scorsese captured that emotion is pure genius.

    • @tims4502
      @tims4502 Год назад

      If anything happened to Karen, though, Henry would have turned state’s witness immediately. He was considering it before but that would have sent him over the edge.
      If anything he should have killed them together

  • @sallobo777
    @sallobo777 Год назад +115

    I read somewhere that Jimmy had told Henry to meet up with Roy Demeo to get something from him.
    But Henry was smart; he knew of Roy Demeo's reputation, so he carefully approached the situation.
    Henry sent Karen ahead to scout for him (pretty dumb move to risk your wife, but very slimy coming from Henry); Karen did enter the famous murder room by herself.
    But Roy made no move on her, Karen said Roy looked surprised to see her and was expecting Henry and only Henry.
    Roy had taken out women before, so the reason he hesitated to take out Karen has probably not to spook Henry even more and make it harder to get Henry.
    She quickly left the place, and meet up with henry a few blocks away and told him that the place looked like a trap.
    That's when Henry decided to give up Jimmy.
    There's a documentary on youtube, and Henry Hill was standing outside the Gemini Club, and he said on camera this is where Jimmy told him to meet.

    • @stephencorbitt2752
      @stephencorbitt2752 Год назад +4

      This makes sense but she never tells Henry when she gets back.

    • @154g
      @154g Год назад +1

      Yea, they tried to get hin if thats where they sent him

    • @conormartin3476
      @conormartin3476 Год назад

      @@stephencorbitt2752 that’s just the movie to be fair and not reality

    • @citypopFM
      @citypopFM Год назад +9

      Sending your wife as the canary in the coal mine, in this case being the Gemini Lounge with Roy DeMeo waiting, has to be one of the biggest scumbag moves of all time. In fairness to Henry, maybe in a warped way he was right to do it to save his own life knowing that Roy had no business or reason to murder Karen.

    • @PolishKnightUSA
      @PolishKnightUSA Год назад +5

      @@citypopFM Scummy only if we see Karen as a total innocent, which she's not. After all, she's savvy enough to report back observations to him and Roy wouldn't whack her for the reasons stated above. As his mob wife, she was providing useful intel that saved his life and, in the end, hers as well since without Henry around, she wouldn't be safe. Scummy move? Only in the sense that's what it takes to survive for both of them.

  • @theodorestickney5714
    @theodorestickney5714 Год назад +17

    In real life they never found Johnny Roast beef and his wife, they just "disappeared".

    • @adammarchandisacrybully6166
      @adammarchandisacrybully6166 Год назад +3

      Jimmy Conway was right about the pink cadillac. Johnny Roastbeef had this facile answer about it being in his inlaws name, but by the time it gets that far, you're already in the weeds answering questions.

  • @edwardpate6128
    @edwardpate6128 Год назад +6

    Karen was smokin hot!

  • @wanmanrmy
    @wanmanrmy Год назад +71

    Karen is at a risk of being killed because of the drug dealing (which she was actively involved in) not Lufthansa. The issue with the drug dealing is that Paulie was going to have everyone involved whacked as the penalties for dealing are so high that it risks people snitching (which was true since that’s what Henry did). Jimmy was trying to kill any link between him and the dealing at that point to save his own life.

    • @Sahyravlogsxo
      @Sahyravlogsxo Год назад +1

      Speaking facts

    • @adamsmith7058
      @adamsmith7058 11 месяцев назад +1

      I think you've added to the reasons it would be in Jimmy's interest to tie up all his loose ends, rather than refuting the Lufthansa heist as a motive to murder Henry and Karen. It was huge problem for him if they stayed alive, either way you look at it.

  • @rturnier74
    @rturnier74 Год назад +59

    The reason Jimmy is afraid Paulie might have him wacked is because Karen and Paulie we're having an affair while Henry was in prison

  • @comradecat3678
    @comradecat3678 Год назад +42

    i wish goodfellaa was 4 hours long!

    • @maratonlegendelenemirei3352
      @maratonlegendelenemirei3352 Год назад +6

      There's only so much of The Rolling Stones I can take! Mind you, if it was longer then George Harrison's Wah-Wah song would definitely have to feature in a bar scene somewhere?

    • @minorsnow5306
      @minorsnow5306 Год назад

      @@maratonlegendelenemirei3352 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @georgesouthwick7000
    @georgesouthwick7000 Год назад +74

    Guys like Jimmy don’t have friends, they have symbiotic relationships. Once he no longer can use someone, they are gone. Also, if Jimmy had wacked Karen, there would have been no reason for Henry to keep quiet.

    • @antcantcook960
      @antcantcook960 Год назад +15

      “Parasitic “ not symbiotic.

    • @jaymoar3561
      @jaymoar3561 Год назад +3

      Yeah that’s why he was trying to kill both Henry and Karen.

    • @citypopFM
      @citypopFM Год назад

      I always assumed he intended to kidnap her as leverage to lure Henry out and kill him. Otherwise, yeah, murdering her would have only guaranteed Henry would run to the DA for witness protection.

    • @peterl3417
      @peterl3417 Год назад

      @@antcantcook960ou don’t become rich/powerful like Jimmy by being only a parasite. He had a crew that he relied upon to do stuff and paid them. It’s all about investment vs reward.

  • @jackkielty8241
    @jackkielty8241 Год назад +6

    In the mid seventies I worked loading and unloading cargo at Kennedy Airport. Every day there was a flight coming in from Iceland that carried a load of caviar which was kept in ice in boxes. One day in particular I remember that while I was busy unloading the plane a unmarked van came up right on the ramp and two guys got out and briefly spoke to the ramp supervisor, my boss, whereupon he told me to load about a dozen boxes of caviar into the van. I did what my supervisor told me to do but later on when I asked him what all that was about he told me that La Costra Nostra had a strong presence at the airport and to never question them. Years before the Lufthansa heist the Mafia was entrenched at Kennedy and was very much aware whenever any valuable cargo was being brought in. They always took a cut of anything valuable and nobody dared question them.

    • @SirDistic
      @SirDistic 19 дней назад

      I would not believe anyone who told me that this isn't still going on. The airports, the docks, wherever cargo comes in or goes out.

  • @zachb.6606
    @zachb.6606 Год назад +49

    No. According to Henry Hill (watch Goodfellas with the director's commentary w/ former USAtty Ed McDonald) Jimmy planned to kidnap Karen and hold her as leverage so Henry wouldn't cooperate with the FBI. Jimmy wasn't going to have her killed in that scene with the dresses, which takes place after Henry is busted but before he goes into Witsec. Jimmy still needed Karen alive at that point in the timeline--at least until he could eliminate Henry before he gave the FBI any incriminating information.

    • @anthonyinzerillo2804
      @anthonyinzerillo2804 Год назад +1

      Henry Hill was an unreliable and constantly lying alcoholic, drug & pill addict. So we don't know if anything Henry claimed over the years was true. Many of his claims were contradicted by other sources.

    • @zachb.6606
      @zachb.6606 Год назад +2

      @@anthonyinzerillo2804 Yeah but in this case Henry's claim makes sense (and there's nothing to contradict it). Karen was the only bargaining chip they had over him at that point. If they whacked her then Henry's only recourse would have been to run to the FBI. They needed to keep her alive long enough to get to him. No doubt her death would follow his. That was the smart move.

    • @jmdi2703
      @jmdi2703 Год назад +1

      Nahh. If Jimmy want he and his men kidnap Karen. Not nesseraly that clothes gift plan.

  • @BrokTheLoneWolf
    @BrokTheLoneWolf Год назад +24

    That scene is insanely eerie.

  • @aatosvuorms7303
    @aatosvuorms7303 Год назад +30

    Funny how lifw gets so real after all the good times

  • @marka4891
    @marka4891 Год назад +10

    Nitpick: It's not normal for mobsters to take care of their crews' families. That was the case in The Godfather (fictional, of course), but you see in Goodfellas that nobody much cared about anyone else's family when Henry went to prison and told Karen that they were on their own.

    • @xgymratx
      @xgymratx Год назад +2

      Stark reality vs robinhoodish mobster lore are 2 different things

    • @rhys2040
      @rhys2040 Год назад +2

      Henry wasn't made though. I'm sure you would have to be at least made in a family for that kind of treatment

    • @marka4891
      @marka4891 Год назад

      @@rhys2040 Admittedly it's been a while, but I got the sense from the book that it was that way for everyone, made or not.

  • @therealbronxbull
    @therealbronxbull Год назад +23

    Morrie's wigs don't come off until Jimmy wrapped a telephone cord around his neck
    not realizing the cord was actually made in Philadelphia circa the 1960s
    However, if that cord was made in China then the "Morrie's wigs don't come off" line just might have proved true.
    Thanks,
    ~Spider Yaprickya

  • @leewightman8619
    @leewightman8619 7 месяцев назад +2

    Legend has it karens dad has still not digested a decent meal

  • @samuelrosenbalm
    @samuelrosenbalm Год назад +9

    I think he was really giving her some clothes but when she showed fear he realized then that Henry and Karen were afraid of him and would flip.

  • @murfdog19
    @murfdog19 Год назад +34

    The biggest misconception is that Jimmy was calling the shots on who got whacked. In reality, Jimmy killing anyone without permission from Paulie would mean BIG trouble for Jimmy. If he had decided to kill Karen spur of the moment - and actually succeeded - Jimmy would have to answer to Paulie for the murder. In the mob, killing without permission from a boss is punishable by death.

    • @daveyboy_
      @daveyboy_ Год назад +10

      If it's killing a 'made ' guy then yeah .

    • @PumpernickelBread25
      @PumpernickelBread25 Год назад +14

      That only applies to made guys

    • @murfdog19
      @murfdog19 Год назад +2

      @@PumpernickelBread25 All guys. Anyone who is part of a crew has certain protections. Henry wasn't made, but there's no way in hell that Jimmy would get away with whacking him without Paulie's permission.

    • @daveyboy_
      @daveyboy_ Год назад +2

      @@murfdog19 why not . He wacked Morrie.

    • @murfdog19
      @murfdog19 Год назад +1

      @@daveyboy_ In real life, everyone who was killed after the heist was approved by Paulie.

  • @TheForeigner_
    @TheForeigner_ Год назад +31

    Funny how I watched this yesterday and was wondering what Jimmy had planned, I'm thinking he wanted to scare her into telling them what she knows.

  • @crimony3054
    @crimony3054 Год назад +6

    Henry said, "We paid off judges. We paid off cops. We paid off lawyers. Everyone had their hand out." Wouldn't that knowledge complicate things when it comes time to prosecute and sentence them?

  • @tylergnosis2581
    @tylergnosis2581 Год назад +5

    I'm glad someone pointed this out. I was wondering what that scene was about

    • @F150fx2sporT
      @F150fx2sporT 5 месяцев назад

      Lol it’s painfully obvious what it meant and that she was gonna get whacked

  • @ninobr0wn_
    @ninobr0wn_ Год назад +7

    How did he just come up with that plan in the spur of the moment when he already had 2 men in there waiting for her, how would they have known what to do then 😂

    • @williet.3058
      @williet.3058 Год назад

      That's what I was saying many times in the comments. Who in their right mind would end a random person without an explicit order to do so? It's either sloppy writing or Jimmy was going to have her detained and then ended off. No way she was going to get whacked on the spot, like everyone here seems to think.

  • @daveyboy_
    @daveyboy_ Год назад +6

    Lufthansa was Morrie's baby . He was also the guy - along with Henry who came up with shaving Points in College B-BALL and the reason that they got in to the Terminal is because Henry devised a plan to snatch the key from the security guard . Hence at the scene at the bar Jimmy kisses Henry and says ,' this man's a genius ' . Didnt you read the book ?

  • @rmilone1
    @rmilone1 7 месяцев назад +3

    The "don't walk" sign and "one way" sign are significantly overshadowed by Smith Street and West 9 Street, a play on the name Smith and Wesson. Brilliant.

  • @CaptainTeach1
    @CaptainTeach1 Год назад +3

    I love your video analysis of our favorite gangster movies we as fans appreciate your dedication and great work

  • @natejoe9924
    @natejoe9924 Год назад +25

    You're in the life if your boss tells you not to do something you don't do it you follow directions like a soldier and they did not listen

    • @chrismcnemar6705
      @chrismcnemar6705 Год назад +4

      Neither did Stacks, he sure couldn't follow orders. I'm glad to know I can somewhat. 😂, My excuse would be I ran outta ⛽.

    • @natejoe9924
      @natejoe9924 Год назад +1

      @@chrismcnemar6705 🤣😂🤣😂 that is pretty funny but I think he would have still got killed though he should have just completed his job that he was supposed to do

  • @dannybowers4133
    @dannybowers4133 Год назад +12

    Karen was also sleeping with Paulie at around that time its unlikely she could be killed with no repercussions

    • @robertrodriguez787
      @robertrodriguez787 Год назад

      Not if they didn't know plus Karen was just someone he was Sleeping around with . You think there wasn't another Karen out there Paulie could have gotten . It's the Wives and Kids of a Made Man 👞♂️ that are Hands off 📴 .Plus your Forgetting Paulie Turned his Back on Henry . Who was Protected by Paulie which is Why no one Tried to kill Henry until Paulie turned His Back on Henry that it was Open Season On Henry and Karen.

    • @dannybowers4133
      @dannybowers4133 Год назад

      @@robertrodriguez787 i doubt jimmy could kill paulie side piece he wasnt made either. I dont think it was that big of a secret Michael franzese knew about it and he was in a different family, and women and children are hands off in general everybody wanted Henry dead not Karen.

    • @topMonger
      @topMonger Год назад

      How do you know that ?? Did I missed that on the movie ??

    • @dannybowers4133
      @dannybowers4133 Год назад +1

      @@topMonger Michael franzese has a RUclips channel and he talks about this stuff all the time most of the mob thats still alive from back then has a RUclips channel

    • @topMonger
      @topMonger Год назад

      @@dannybowers4133 that explains why she was so paranoid about Henry cheating on the first place, it’s like a manipulation tactic

  • @aarona.4937
    @aarona.4937 Год назад +10

    Jimmy told Henry to tell Belle(Morrie's wife) that Morrie ran off with some broad after Morrie got whacked.

    • @robertrodriguez787
      @robertrodriguez787 Год назад +3

      Problem was Morrie was not a Mad Man just a associate that means he had no Protection . And the Way Morrie was acting it was just a matter of time before they wacked him off

    • @The_OneManCrowd
      @The_OneManCrowd Год назад +1

      @@robertrodriguez787 Yeah he thought they were his friends.

    • @vahlen5281
      @vahlen5281 Год назад +4

      ​@@robertrodriguez787 True, and I would have honestly expected Morrie to get offed far earlier than he was. Dude was on less than thin ice in nearly every scene he was in.

    • @onrr1726
      @onrr1726 Год назад +2

      Morrie owed money to just about everyone and had a knack for finding excuses and stalling on paying off his debts. In the long run getting rid of that deadbeat was more than justified.

  • @UniverseF5
    @UniverseF5 9 месяцев назад +5

    Morrie didn’t deserved to get whacked.

  • @JohnS-il1dr
    @JohnS-il1dr Год назад +3

    Jimmy gave the Kiss of Death in view of his henchmen at the dress warehouse

  • @NateGerardRealEstateTeam
    @NateGerardRealEstateTeam Год назад +16

    I’m not sure Jimmy ordered Morrie to be killed. He called it off during poker and seemed irritated that it happened while he was in the car.
    Either way, the lesson is to not sit in the front seat when Tommy is in the back seat.

    • @Paddy.C
      @Paddy.C Год назад +1

      In reality, it wasn't Tommy who killed Martin Krugman (the guy who Maurie was based on).
      Angelo Sepe (Frank Carbone in the movie) is generally accepted as being the one one who killed Krugman, pretty much certainly on the orders of Jimmy.
      The guy wanted half a million dollars as his share of Lufthansa, and was pestering constantly for it.
      Sepe wasn't killed by Jimmy and left in a freezer truck, as Carbone was in the movie.
      Him and his Mrs were taken out at home by a professional hit team with silenced firearms, probably over robbing a load of cocaine from dealers who were backed and financed by another Lucchese family crew.

  • @nagone11
    @nagone11 Год назад +6

    An associate can kill who he wants as long as it isn't a made man..

    • @chrismcnemar6705
      @chrismcnemar6705 Год назад

      For a made man to be killed, you have to have a sit-down and you better get an ok. Otherwise you'd be the one who got whacked. Henry Hill

    • @shaunsteele6926
      @shaunsteele6926 Год назад

      yeah but you can't go around like some psycho just killing anybody you want to. That's how Tommy got himself whacked

    • @nagone11
      @nagone11 Год назад

      @@shaunsteele6926 Tommy got killed primarily because he killed a made man without permission to do so.

  • @michaell874
    @michaell874 10 месяцев назад +3

    As much as Karen was supposed to be off limits, Jimmy, who could not be an associate, did not play by the same rules, which is what made him so dangerous.

  • @marksummers463
    @marksummers463 Год назад +4

    In addition to the don't walk sign and the one-way sign, there was also a dead-end sign. The perfect place to committ a murder is in a place with cleaners or painters because all the plastic sheets on the ground make the execution site easy to sanitize.

  • @benderbendingrofriguez3300
    @benderbendingrofriguez3300 Год назад +4

    When Tommy is about to be "Made", he says to his mother 'Please don't put more religious picture'. Why did he say that to his devoted mother?

    • @maratonlegendelenemirei3352
      @maratonlegendelenemirei3352 Год назад

      Paint. Perhaps Tommy was afraid of the afterlife as he knew he was a bad case, a bad seed?

    • @schumi9xwdc
      @schumi9xwdc Год назад

      His Soul was Dammed!

    • @bajorekjon
      @bajorekjon 2 месяца назад

      I think he said "please don't paint more religious pictures". Maybe his mom was into that

  • @keithvlombardo
    @keithvlombardo Год назад +1

    1) Karen had absolutely no connection to Tommy getting whacked. 2) Hostages? Nah

  • @jamessutherland5107
    @jamessutherland5107 Год назад +4

    She was REALLY hot in that movie. Shit, she was still that way in the Sopranos. Good looking woman

  • @cletusjones9411
    @cletusjones9411 Год назад +3

    “You know what we’ll do? We’ll hang ‘em in the freezer wit da meat.” Frankie Carbone should not of bought his wife that mink coat!

    • @504Chosenone
      @504Chosenone 5 месяцев назад

      Wow I noticed they put him in da freezer like to say where is your coat now

  • @wesleysimon955
    @wesleysimon955 Год назад +1

    Paulie cared about Karen because he was sexing her. Lol 😂

    • @dianachin4849
      @dianachin4849 Год назад

      Who was on top? Karen or Paulie? 😄😄😄

  • @MrUndersolo
    @MrUndersolo Год назад +2

    I still argue with people about this scene. Of course, he wanted to get rid of her. Anyone connected with the crime was a liability.

  • @DesireandLoss92
    @DesireandLoss92 Год назад +1

    ...How the hell did I not realize that Stacks Edwards was Sam L Jackson? feelin' pretty dumb right now haha

  • @davidrenton
    @davidrenton Год назад +1

    maybe Karen just missed out on some lovely stolen dresses and he never intended to whack her

  • @logicalchaos9008
    @logicalchaos9008 Год назад +3

    Before the I'll fated Florida trip Jimmy complains to Henry about Karen commisserating with his wife and he "couldn't have it". He was worried about her for a long time, even before things went bad.

  • @adrianeyre3630
    @adrianeyre3630 Год назад

    Why did Henry look paranoid about the Christmas tree in his own home , like as if jimmy was watching his house 😂

    • @bajorekjon
      @bajorekjon 2 месяца назад

      He was a coke head, so he was extremely paranoid in the years leading up to his arrest

  • @studiobencivengamarcusbenc5272
    @studiobencivengamarcusbenc5272 Год назад +10

    Few people recognize that she has the best female role in a mafia movie - Lorraine Bracco is on ! No wonder she played the shrink in the Soprano series - cuz she is not only willing ... she is bloody able ... I like her 🤗👌

  • @dougg2012
    @dougg2012 15 дней назад

    Karen got scared so bad that she changed her name to Jennifer Melfi and went into the psychiatric field, ending up in New Jersey.

  • @chrismcnemar6705
    @chrismcnemar6705 Год назад +4

    Jimmy was not a made man, neither was Tommy or Henry. Jimmy would've definitely killed Karen. They did what they wanted, you should've knew that when they killed Batts. One mobster Jimmy relates to to me is Roy Demeo.

  • @jaggermurlin6343
    @jaggermurlin6343 Год назад +18

    I thought mob rules family is off limits. But they both are associates and not made men.

    • @msmarshall854
      @msmarshall854 Год назад +8

      There may be no such thing as mob 'rules.'

    • @robertrodriguez787
      @robertrodriguez787 Год назад +3

      Well they also have a rule about killing there own but that didn't stop Jimmy from killing people from that heist job he pulled . Or them Killing Tommy . Fact is they killed anyone they thought 💭🤔 would turn on them . Plus that's for Made Men not Associates . Now the reason no one Tried to kill Henry or his Wife was because He was Protected by Paulie . But when Paulie Turned His Back on Henry . It was Open Season on Henry and Karen

    • @williamshakespeare9815
      @williamshakespeare9815 Год назад +6

      They break more rules than the catholic church

    • @hkmadness2693
      @hkmadness2693 Год назад

      They can't risk the family talking to the feds.

    • @johncap6495
      @johncap6495 Год назад

      Yes traditionally it is against the rules to kill the woman and children unless they think the wife could rat. when I was kid in Philly though. The two rival families were in a blood war. The one boss who was from the old country(Italy) ordered that hit. The crew turned on him so he went in Federal custody etc.

  • @pab1381
    @pab1381 Год назад +4

    Although I know everybody liked him which is stated but Stacks was different level stupid. You just pull one of the biggest robberies of all time and instead of getting rid of the vehicle that was used you get high and fall asleep somewhere??

  • @M1tjakaramazov
    @M1tjakaramazov Год назад +3

    Actually this is just an artistic technique in film making. Leaving a few loose threads and insinuations in the narrative enhances the sense of paranoia. This is exactly what the director was doing, nothing more.

  • @johnnydistortion7260
    @johnnydistortion7260 Год назад +2

    So you basically summarize Goodfellas...

  • @stlouisluv
    @stlouisluv Год назад +3

    Wait how is it her fault Tommy got killed?

  • @princessmarlena1359
    @princessmarlena1359 7 месяцев назад +1

    “Be sure to block the window!”
    “…’ey! Shshshshshshsh-shhhh!”
    🚬🚬
    👀

  • @BrianBeauchamp
    @BrianBeauchamp 2 месяца назад

    EVERY TIME I watch the movie, when DeNiro’s character starts killing everyone involved in the heist, I think the SAME THING. Why didn’t someone take DeNiro OUT? It had to have been obvious what was going on. He just got away with it. No repercussions. Man!!

  • @nevisjackson
    @nevisjackson Месяц назад

    “Morrie’s wigs don’t come off”

  • @bruceking7416
    @bruceking7416 11 месяцев назад +1

    Exactly why I'm a law bidding citizen

  • @singalongwrudy8690
    @singalongwrudy8690 Год назад +2

    I figured he just wanted her to think she was to be "whacked"... a mind game ...

  • @fenwar9060
    @fenwar9060 Год назад +1

    Wouldn't killing Karen first simply have Henry go into hiding quicker?🤔

  • @egofamilytree
    @egofamilytree 10 месяцев назад

    Scorsese is a genius for the one way don’t walk sign

  • @Mikegees
    @Mikegees 8 месяцев назад

    Overlooking that fact that Karen was married to Henry and knew about a lot of crimes he did. Which in turn made her a loose end.

  • @Dr.JHIrons
    @Dr.JHIrons Год назад +7

    Karen was sleeping with Paulie……

  • @ricolaw1033
    @ricolaw1033 10 месяцев назад +1

    A yet unknown Samuel L. Jackson? 😂😂😂. He was in School Daze, Do The Right Thing, Coming to America and the Cosby Show before Goodfellas 😂😂😂😂

    • @insuchaway
      @insuchaway 2 месяца назад +1

      "Some" people don't know about what they don't know about; im not surprised 😬

  • @montecarlo4294
    @montecarlo4294 Год назад +9

    He didn’t kill her because she was Tony Soprano’s shrink

  • @lang1031
    @lang1031 Год назад

    Wow I have never had the time to study a movie that much.

  • @user-fb6sw1rf5q
    @user-fb6sw1rf5q Год назад +1

    What a great performance by Robert de Niro as Jimmy the gent Burke!!!!

    • @Paddy.C
      @Paddy.C Год назад

      Nah, he was Jimmy Conway, apparently changed after Jimmy's daughter tried shaking Martin Scorsese down, demanding cash in return for using their family name.
      So he said "OK, we'll keep our money and not use your family name".

  • @murrethmedia
    @murrethmedia 4 месяца назад

    "Think Henry tells his wife everything?"

  • @discman15
    @discman15 Год назад +8

    I was never sure if she was actually in danger or if she was just imagining it. I can't really think of a reason why Jimmy would want to have her killed

    • @user-fi8lf8bs7p
      @user-fi8lf8bs7p 9 месяцев назад

      Because he realized she knew too much and Jimmy was paranoid. .

  • @NR-rv8rz
    @NR-rv8rz Год назад +2

    When you see the real Henry Hill, you will notice that he's a dead ringer for Joe Pesci. But Scorsese, coward that he is, was unwilling to do what the Sopranos show runners did and show Hill for the weasel like character he is and instead got a good looking ladies man to play him instead.

  • @Lopfff
    @Lopfff Год назад +23

    I always saw Jimmy’s actions as rational self-preservation. Psychopathic and cold-hearted, sure. But not paranoid. If I was in Jimmy’s position, and members of the crew started flaunting their ill-gotten gains, I’d wack those idiots too

    • @KiDoesMusic
      @KiDoesMusic Год назад +1

      Sometimes the wacking is what get's people caught anyway. In real life adding onto the crime with more serious crime isn't a generally smart idea from anyone law enforcement wants.

    • @ColorCodeWhite
      @ColorCodeWhite Год назад +4

      I think the only big mistake Jimmy made was taking them out one by one, but not all at the same time. He should have gotten them all together and took them out altogether with poison or something, less messy and less chance of someone slipping away.

    • @Lopfff
      @Lopfff Год назад +7

      @@ColorCodeWhite Yeah, and a string of murders would seem to get more attention than a single mass murder might

    • @joelglanton6531
      @joelglanton6531 Год назад +1

      @@KiDoesMusic "Sometimes the wacking is what gets people caught." Ask Paul Reubens AKA Pee Wee Herman

    • @adamsmith7058
      @adamsmith7058 11 месяцев назад

      @@ColorCodeWhite Kill them all with poison? What is this? The Borgias? Nice try in terms of style and lateral thinking, I guess. Even if the modus operandi is more fifteenth century than twentieth. Also, orchestrating a mass killing of several figures in the criminal underworld, with poison, wouldn't be as low profile as you seem to think. Let's just say, supicions would be aroused...

  • @johnmazzoni487
    @johnmazzoni487 Год назад +1

    Karen was almost killed because Henry got busted for Drugs and she was his accomplice not because of the heist

  • @jpart3526
    @jpart3526 Год назад

    Two songs by Eric Clapton (Cream and Blind Faith) I'll never look at the same way again thanks to Martin Scorsese's Goodfellas, 4:17 the opening riff to Sunshine of Your Love and the 5:09 the instrumental tail end to Layla.

    • @StarfieldRailway
      @StarfieldRailway Год назад

      "Layla" is by Derek and the Dominos, with Clapton singing and playing guitar.

  • @dwaynehardwell897
    @dwaynehardwell897 Год назад +2

    Jimmy was trying to tie up loose ends on the heist and he didn’t want to get whacked by Paulie cause paulie didn’t allow drug dealing and if he found out Jimmy was involved so he would’ve had him whacked along with Henry

  • @natejoe9924
    @natejoe9924 Год назад +6

    I honestly don't think he would have killed Maury because he did call off the hit but then he kept on bugging for the money if he wouldn't have bugged and asked one more time I think he would have been alive

    • @robertrodriguez787
      @robertrodriguez787 Год назад +6

      Or he may have been setting Maury up . I mean unless You know what Jimmy was Thinking . See it's like Henry said Getting Wacked ain't like in the Gangster movies you see on TV. There Are no Cross words . Your Enemies come at you with Smiles . Which means you never Know who is going to want to Wack you

    • @natejoe9924
      @natejoe9924 Год назад

      @@robertrodriguez787 you think that could be true but he didn't know that he was going to get killed and why would Jimmy shake his head no Maury didn't know

    • @natejoe9924
      @natejoe9924 Год назад

      @@robertrodriguez787 but I get what you're saying I honestly don't think that he was going to kill him

    • @natejoe9924
      @natejoe9924 Год назад

      @@robertrodriguez787 do what I'm trying to say there was no reason for Jimmy to call the hit off if you get what I'm saying he was the boss of the family it's not like he was a soldier

    • @robertrodriguez787
      @robertrodriguez787 Год назад

      @@natejoe9924 was not the Paulie was . To be the Boss meant he would have had to been a Made Man ♂️ and because he was Not A Full Blooded Italian meant he was a Worker and a associate just like Henry was . I mean Carbone and Tommy were more Italians then Jimmy ever was .

  • @maratonlegendelenemirei3352
    @maratonlegendelenemirei3352 Год назад +1

    5:09 Is this the same Pink Cadilac talked about from Taxi Driver which Easy Andy, the sweet talking travelling gun salesman offers to Travis Bickle?

  • @toddmurphy3245
    @toddmurphy3245 Год назад

    At 4:09 Jimmy walks to the bar. Can’t see the cigarette in this clip but a woman at the bar flicks her cigarette at Jimmy’s drink. He’s gives her a quick stare, swipes the cigarette aside and goes on with the scene. It’s easier to see it happen in the movie.

  • @apb38
    @apb38 Месяц назад

    After the debacle with the "warming up the engine" with a deceased Mory in the front seat Carbone was finished.

  • @shawnbbunbbbybbb3942
    @shawnbbunbbbybbb3942 Год назад +2

    In that life your crew is supposed to take care of your family if anything happens to u but that rule applies to made men and jimmy wasn’t a made man and Morrie was barely even an associate so jimmy had no obligation to provide for his wife

  • @maximusprime3459
    @maximusprime3459 Год назад

    "THAT WAS ALL THE MONEY WE HAD KAREN!!"

  • @AYCHMENG
    @AYCHMENG Год назад

    You don't think husbands and wives don't pillow talk. I am sure Henry let Karen know what he was thinking about Jimmy.

  • @BlkSox71
    @BlkSox71 Год назад

    The look on his face when Karen didn’t go in😡

  • @sole__doubt
    @sole__doubt 10 месяцев назад +2

    Jimmy is just being pragmatic as usual.
    Hes a twisted s.o.b. but he knew how to make money off the books.

  • @lenevee4925
    @lenevee4925 Год назад +2

    Karen was one of the reasons why Tommy got killed? I thought the only reason he was killed because he whacked a made guy Billy Batts.

  • @natejoe9924
    @natejoe9924 Год назад +5

    He specifically told them not to buy expensive stuff they did it anyways none of them wouldn'have died if they would have just listen to him I don't blame Jimmy for what he did

    • @SeriusChevy
      @SeriusChevy Год назад +1

      All of what they do is cold blooded murder, but hey no reason to blame them for that...

    • @natejoe9924
      @natejoe9924 Год назад

      @@SeriusChevy they know the risk for signing up that's the life that they live

    • @natejoe9924
      @natejoe9924 Год назад

      @@SeriusChevy you can't take the heat get out the kitchen

    • @maratonlegendelenemirei3352
      @maratonlegendelenemirei3352 Год назад

      He would have killed them all anyways even if they didn't spend 1 cent.

    • @natejoe9924
      @natejoe9924 Год назад

      @@maratonlegendelenemirei3352 no I don't think he would have the mafia lives by a cold

  • @JoyAmin666
    @JoyAmin666 11 месяцев назад

    this scene really still is confusing to me, I think it could mean both, like she was just afraid or she was about to be whacked

  • @jonvia
    @jonvia Год назад +1

    Im gonna go get the papers...get the papers

  • @1992Magnascopics
    @1992Magnascopics 6 месяцев назад

    This scene was the first to be filmed on Day One of Production, May 1989.

  • @natejoe9924
    @natejoe9924 Год назад +5

    When they was walking in the alleyway Maury just had to ask for the money one more time that's what ultimately killed him the hit did get called off

    • @Paddy.C
      @Paddy.C Год назад

      How do you know that, unless you spoke personally to Scorsese?
      All the viewer knows is that Jimmy _told_ Henry the hit was called off.
      That could well have just been because Henry was visibly upset and brooding over it, and Jimmy didn't want him spooking/warning Maurie.

    • @natejoe9924
      @natejoe9924 Год назад

      @@Paddy.C you obviously didn't watch the movie he did call off their heads

    • @natejoe9924
      @natejoe9924 Год назад

      @@Paddy.C he didn't he just have to ask for the money again and that's what killed him

    • @Paddy.C
      @Paddy.C Год назад

      @@natejoe9924
      "Call off their heads", what are you talking about!?

  • @jeffreyworthen7033
    @jeffreyworthen7033 Год назад

    Well its never a good thing when you have to walk to a dark room where there's 2 pretty good sized mamalukes looking at you....🤣🤣🤣