What's My Line? - Lerner & Loewe; Bishop Sheen; David Niven [panel] (Oct 21, 1956)
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- Опубликовано: 27 дек 2013
- MYSTERY GUEST: Alan Jay Lerner & Frederick Loewe [songwriting team, best known for "My Fair Lady"]; Bishop Fulton J. Sheen [American archbishop of the Roman Catholic Church]
PANEL: Dorothy Kilgallen, David Niven, Arlene Francis, Bennett Cerf 
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Niven recognizing his former soldier is my favorite moment on WML.
It has been years since I read Niven's memoir "The Moon's A Balloon" or Graham Lord's excellent biography, "Niv." However, there are inconsistencies in this WML show. In 1936, twenty years before 1956, Niven was in Hollywood, not in the British armed forces. In 1928 - 1932, after graduating from Sandhurst Military College, he was in the Highland Light Infantry, stationed in Malta. During WWII, in the 1940's, he was in the Commandos, training soldiers at a secret military base in Scotland. Oh well, it seems this bagpiper was a soldier under Niven's command somewhere. However you remember it, David.
@@lemorab1 20 years would be a generalisation instead of accuracy.
@@lemorab1 Must have been his officer in the interwar years. That was when David Niven was on Malta. Wasn't his commanding officer in the war, which was the host's suggestion/assumption.
Arlene Francis: "Non-profit on TV? You've got a crazy sponsor." One of the most hysterical lines ever said on television.
Inpri - And everyone there laughed so hard, aside of the panelists, because they were all extrapolating that the sponsor for him was God. Proof folks back then were not so prudish if something was genuinely funny and not demeaning or ugly in some manner. Truly funny. And the hilarity in the laughter is what finally made Arlene realize who the Mystery Guest must have been.
Arlene Francis was the classiest adornment to television in its history. A flawless lady and a delightful human being.
18:54 Arlene (of Bishop Sheen) "Oh, boy, do YOU have a crazy sponsor!"
OMG....I almost choked on my coffee...I laughed so hard!
One year Bishop Sheen won the Emmy. Milton Berle said to him "How did you beat me out?" Bishop Sheen said "I have better writers"
And he thanked his writers when he received his Emmy: Matthew, Mark, Luke and John
Bishop Sheen is a lighthouse in a foggy world
Thumbs up for Bishop Sheen and Dorothy Kilgallen.
Nah, just Dorothy Kilgallen.
@@robradical7213 I would ordinarily agree with you, but I lived in the day before Televangelists rotted the barrel, and Bishop Sheen was quite different. My family was atheist, but we still enjoyed Bishop Sheen. One didn't need to believe in God to respect Bishop Sheen.
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She kissed his ring.
@@PaulTesta is a Catholic
That is so cool that Niven remembered him!
David Harris - I have always hoped they had a bit of time together after the show to catch up on their lives. The last Alex would have remembered of his commander probably would have been the wartime tragic death of his first wife and mother of his two sons. So, it would have been nice for them to both share how well things had become in their lives.
@@philippapay4352 Primmie Niven died in 1946 in Beverly Hills, after WWII, but yeah, that might have been shortly after the last time McGeachin and Niven saw each other, ten years before this WML show.
@@lemorab1- I thought they were still in London with the move back to L.A. planned, but apparently they had just gotten back to L.A. after the war. A terrible accident with 2 small sons to rear. Clark Gable was helpful to him.
@@philippapay4352Primmie Niven died in a completely ridiculous, tragic accident at Tyrone Power's house during a game of sardines. The lights were off, Primmie had not been shown the geography of the house, and she opened what she thought was a hall closet door. Instead, she took a tumble down steep, concrete stairs into a basement, getting a fatal head injury, and dying the next day at St. John's Hospital in Santa Monica. This is one of those freak occurrences where you go, "If only Ty and Annabella had locked that door in advance, as a precaution." "If only they had told Primmie about the steep stairs in advance." The consequences of this were disastrous for David and his two sons.
@@lemorab1 Yes, I know the details, which are upsetting, but I thought it had occurred at a party in London before they returned to L.A. Those 2 boys were young. Clark Gable, having lost his wife in a plane crash while selling war bonds across the country several years earlier, contacted Niven because Gable liked to fish and camp and offered to help him take his boys into the outdoors whenever they were both free so that the boys would have lots of non-Hollywood activities to help keep them active until they were school age. It was a generous offer, Niven spoke of in one of his books of memoirs.
That was Respect... When they all stud up for the Bishop and Miss Dorthy kissing his hand. You don't see that anymore.
His ring....a sign of respect for the Office he holds, shepherd over his earthly flock.
stood Sure you do.
Anymore? I've not seen that at all. I'm respectfully gobsmacked.
(In my defense, being a Baptist, I have to plead ignorance. ) LOL
It's a Roman Catholic custom to kiss the ring of a bishop/archbishop/cardinal/pope as a sign of respect. Dorothy Kilgallen was a Roman Catholic.
I kiss my priests hand. Im 31 years old...its a beautiful thing.
David Niven, now there's a man with sophistication.
Now Venerable Fulton Sheen. Hopefully it'll be Saint in my lifetime.
I'm sure he will be Saint Fulton Sheen very soon. I have an autographed portrait of him on one of my walls. Love him very much.
@@steventrosiek2623 You are truly blessed to have a signed picture of our great and blessed Venerable Fulton Sheen. I hope and pray he is canonized soon.
I am a distant relative of his on my mother’s side. I have been praying he is made a saint soon.
Hope so.
Dorothy is always so sincerely religious in an admirable fashion. Ive haven't seen that kneeling for many year.
Dorothy has such impeccable manners!
@topherh33 I have noticed that Dorothy doesn't stand for conservatives or people who are not Catholic. She didn't care much for southern folks either. She referred to country singer Patsy Cline as a hick from the sticks. I love her though, and only enjoy the shows with her in them.
Daly had a knack for saying the perfect thing to any guest. amazing charm.
When Niven made 'the connection' I found myself grinning from ear to ear. These programs are medicine for the soul.
As did I. I wish they were having the guest meet the panel as they departed as they would eventually. I think we would have seen two soldiers greet each other with appropiate salutes.
I have watched this episode so many times. When Arlene says, with all sincerity, that "what kind of crazy sponsor" remark- the reaction of John Daly is priceless.
His Excellency Bishop Sheen, the bagpipe man segment, and John Daly’s ability to use the words “patois” and “ain’t” in one sentence... I love this show
How nice as a dorothy greeting to Bishop Sheen, is a sign of respect and affection to a great man.
Dorothy, a Catholic, properly kissed his bishop's ring as a respect for his office.
My very thought. She great Card. Sheen with the utmost respect he deserves. Holy brilliant woman. Both RIP.
Compared with the way television and entertainers talk and dress today this old film clip seems like it is almost from another planet
It is... Or rather, we are now.
Yes, we ARE the aliens now, with our manner of speech and dress. All around, it's simply atrocious and repulsive. Back then, if someone appeared dressed the way they do now, they'd be summarily arrested for public indecency.
Actor Ramon Estevez needed a screen name. He was so enamored and impressed with Bishop Sheen, Ramon adopted the bishop's surname and became Martin Sheen.
I was raised Catholic and still enjoy Bishop Sheen's messages on EWTN. Arlene: "Oh boy, have you got a crazy sponsor!" Look at Dorothy curtsy to him and kiss his ring.
topherh33 - women generally stand for religious, clergy and royalty.
The ladies stood for Eleanor Roosevelt.
lray1948 - then perhaps women of society.
The first time I heard that line I laughed as hard as they did and was thoroughly delighted. He did, indeed, have "a crazy Sponsor" - and The Best one, too! :) His ability to laugh along with them was a real mark in Bishop Sheen's favor. I, too, enjoy his messages when I am able to see them.
Like the good Catholic girl she was.
Bishop Sheen was indeed a wonderful man !!!!
And Dorothy was a classy lady. Arlene too. I noticed in later syndicated epis Arlene did not reveal her wicked sense of humor like in the original versions with John and Dorothy Kilgallen. It became more like a serious endeavor for her.
He will be declared a Saint soon enough.
I truly hope so. Very few people in the world have deserved sainthood more than the Venerable Fulton J. Sheen.
Bishop Sheen asked that his appearance money be given to the Church's 300 leper colonies. What an amazing exchange. The religious significance of leper colonies since the early days of Christianity and the forlorn suffering of so many people over the centuries. There are no longer so many colonies, as the WHO deemed the disease to be eradicated by 2000. But there are still leper colonies today (one in the US, most in India). In some counties, the stigma for those who have contracted the disease is still so strong that they live in quarantine.
It was so interesting to see the Bishop write JMJ for Jesus, Mary and Joseph, as we did at St. Monica School in Garfield Heights, Ohio in the 1950's.
+Carl Orlandi I just had to reply to this year old comment. I lived in nearby Maple Heights but attended St. Monica's church as well as attending catechism classes there (in the sixties). I wonder if you remember the summer festivals there?
That was standard intro/signature for Bishop Sheen when writing on the blackboard on his TV show.
I love it.
My students still write JMJ at the top of their daily journal 📓 as a dedication of their work.
We did that at St Patrick School in the 1960s as well.
Love this show, where people had manners and culture. Have seen only twice the entire panel rise in respect for the guest, the other being a lady in her 90's who was still employed. I enjoy reruns of Bishop Sheen's show to this day. his messages are timeless.
I take that back.- they did for Dorothy's father, too, another great episode.
And Eleanor Roosevelt, They all stood for her as well!
They should show this show to kids as a course in etiquette and manners.
They stood for Frank Lloyd Wright as well.
They did for the nun who was a dentist as well:
ruclips.net/video/hIyZfTX65Kc/видео.html
That astounding recall by David Niven was show stopping amazing! These men were truly vibrant members of The Greatest Generation, who helped save the world's democracies from imposed fascism! How random chance lucky I was to have been born to two members of that heroic generation! Would that even only a fraction of their heroism, patriotism, and high regard for our fellow humans be resurrected nowadays in this multiply beleaguered world!
"...high regard for our fellow humans..."
Indeed, indeed. There's a channel on RUclips which is the host's platform for the decrying of Cluster B personality disorder throughout society. Yet, this awful man laughs like a nine year old psychopath at the terrible and, thank God, rare phenomenon of conjoined twins.
An astonishing hypocrite and a disgusting human being.
Yes, our parents' generation was special.
brother am i corny...i sit here alone in front of my computer screen and just smile and get so tickled when the panel guesses who the stars are or are told who they are when they can't guess them...so much fun to watch!
If that's the definition, then you're certainly not the only one around here who's corny. :)
As corny as the rest of us watching.
*Raises hand... Proud to be corny!
Arlene and Dorothy stood up for the Bishop. Always so interesting to see when they do 😊
People were raised with etiquette back then. A lady rises for an older lady, or anyone of obviously higher social standing. That would normally include members of the clergy.
@@jec1ny It's interestign you put it this way, becasue I've seen them stand for older women, but not an older man, and I've always wondered about that
@@lennypearl A gentleman always rises for a lady. Ladies only rise in rare cases as outlined above.
I’ve followed that a little and there are 4 times they stood up that I know of: Bishop Sheen, Eleanor Roosevelt, a nun who was a dentist, and Marion Anderson (opera star).
@@jwcjwc111 Those would all be appropriate based on either their age or the social status of the individual.
Any time I have seen this exceptionally entertaining episode, I have always wondered if David Niven and Alexander McGeachin were able to meet backstage and perhaps go out for a late supper and a drink together to catch up on old times. A lot of the panelists and others working on the show often went out together or with groups of friends afterward because it was often their only night off from stage performing during the week. So I hoped they got to have a good chin wag, even if they had to get together the next day to chat.
David Niven is all charisma and class
Hysterical on the show and they all loved having him on especially Arlene and Dorothy.
Could not agree more!
The segment with the bagpipe expert was simply a delight.
Dorothy and Arlene's dresses were absolutely stunning here! David Niven is as charming and suave and amiable as ever, and I simply adore Bennett's wholesome banter with John... This was such a delightful episode all around!
David Niven instantly knew the last contestant. Look at 21:29. That's body language of stressful concealment.
is right.
He was a gentleman. He was struggling to remember where he had known him.
I too noticed that as soon as he saw him, he rubbed his head, just as he did when he started his line of questioning about Malta
I suspect that was why Alexander was laughing so hard as he sat down, also. He had just glanced at Mr. Niven.
Bishop Sheen... I used to watch his television show when I was a little girl...and David Niven and the last guest knowing each other and Niven finally recognizing him.. that was a delight!
I think David Niven recognized him the moment he walked in. He was using the same hand gestures in his hair as he did when he asked him about his commanding officer
After watching I guess about 40 of these WMLs I have decided that this is my favourite. I mean, the phenomenal songwriting team of Lerner & Loewe, the hilarious pig wrangler on the floor with laughter from all the pig jokes flying around his head, the soul-stirring presence of Bishop Sheen and the adorable sudden awareness on the part of David Niven of the identity of the bagpipe tech all made for a legendary show.
"Do pigs come out of eggs?" Hahaha! This was a very educational segment regarding hogs/pigs.
Still one of the best show and unique guests
I'm so glad that our Venerable Abp Futlton Sheen is being beatified next month (21 XII 2019)!
David Niven was so funny. Always lost in his questioning. The guest panelists often were. I would be too . The regulars had time and experience to hone their craft week after week. Arlene and Dorothy always got the game back on track...Bennett too.
"That we will do, and we will add to it." That's class.
It is official. This is my favorite episode of WML! ! !
You know, after watching about 40 episodes, I'm inclined to say the same thing. Plus, it had the guys that wrote the words & music to My Fair Lady!
Oh wow that was amazing with the piper and David Niven!
Arlene: "Weekly on television and non-profit.. O, boy.. have You got a crazy sponsor!"
Beautiful, smart, funny lady!
I like the question "weekly on television and non profit"
How wonderful that Dorothy and Arlene stood up to greet the Bishop....such class...
He was so filled with the Holy Spirt it was flowing into the others around them and they were filled with joy
I agree!😇I got goose bumps when he directed the $ to go to Leper Colonies😇🤗😍
The Spiritual Lepers who are currently trying to destroy everything that is Good and Holy are more dangerous than anyone who suffers from a physical illness.
The pig segment was hilarious! 🤣🤣🤣🐖🐷🐖🐷
I hope Mr. Niven and Alex had a chance to have a drink somewhere after the show and catch up.
AWESOME +BLESSED BISHOP J. SHEEN+🙏❤️😢. Forever Remembered.🙏Forever Missed.💕
😢😢😢Dorothy murdered in November 1965😢😢😢
Yes, so sad that she was murdered. She was only 52 years old.
When did this show air?
She was not murdered. That's tabloid nonsense.
"My Fair Lady" by Lerner & Loewe is the *best* musical ever written! And that's that! :)
We all have our favourite musicals but I would say it's one of the best .
Mine is The Sound of Music
I would put it just behind West Side Story and Grease.
I agree!! It's brilliant on all levels.
It’s definitely in the Hall of Fame. But I can’t NOT mention GYPSY.
Such an awesome episode. Fun from beginning to end.
This is the first time i have seen David Niven on the show. He seems so sweet and such a gentleman. wish he had been on more.
He has been quite a few times.
Contestant: "It's (a pig) not a hog until it reaches 100 pounds"
John: "How much do you weight Bennett?" :) 14:44
Or, when he explains that he runs a pig & hog hatchery..... You mean that pigs come out of eggs, I didn't know that - says Dorothy Killgarden Too funny !!!
From the way they dressed for their appearances, it showed respect for the audience. ( we took it as ‘’a given”)!
I don't really follow any form of religion any more, but I've listened to a few of Bishop Sheen's sermons on RUclips, and I think he was a fascinating man. So, when I saw that he had appeared on What's My Line, I checked this out. I loved his little asides.
Certainly not like the alleged evangelists that we have today. A man truly worthy of being called a man of god, and he had a great sense of humor besides. You don't find that much on television any more.
Bishop Sheen RIP is now referred to as Venerable since he is on the path to sainthood in the Catholic church.
@@patgarcia4664 He was supoosed to be beatified in 2019 but about 2 weeks before they stopped.
He evangelized by example.
@@oldtimer794 Indeed he did.
@@oldtimer794 The best kind.
Great show! Arch Bishop Fulton Sheen was a great man.
The only thing I don’t like about WML is when the show is over! This show was way past my bedtime in the mid 60’s- Sunday was a school night- I kept hoping the show would be switched to Saturday night- but, as we all know, it was forever a Sunday evening CBS staple. I now can enjoy this wonderful show any time! Thank you for posting!
The second contestant said he was from Washta "the coldest spot in Iowa". It still holds the record of a temperature of 47 degrees below zero on January 12, 1912. 9:21
A cool fact.
There was such respect and kindness toward religious leaders back then.
More people actually believed the nonsense back then.
@@peternagy-im4beAnd yet the world is dumber and shallower today, is materialism as a replacement working out well for the world?
@@peternagy-im4beand there's always going to be a village atheist who fancies himself cleverer than all of the religious people, while in truth, he's a flatterer with an audience of one.
Tell me, O Oracle: there are 3.4 billion "letters" in the human genome, and each must be there and in its precise order for humanity to be what it is, so are we to believe that this is the yield of shocking luck?
Talk about nonsense which people believe!
Read Romans 1 - 5. You are without excuse.
@@bobtaylor170 so speaketh the truly ignorant.
To be fair, if people knew about the child abuse that we do now there probably wouldn't be as much respect openly shown. Almost like the church damaged itself.
I wish we could have seen David Niven greet the last contestant after all of those years.
Bishop Sheen had a crazy sponsor!
Lerner and Loewe were the team of lyricist and librettist Alan Jay Lerner and composer Frederick Loewe, known primarily for the music and lyrics of some of Broadway's greatest musicals. "sigh"
I'm in AWE of those two. I just recently watched My Fair Lady for about the 20th time----there is not a dog in that set list. Every song.......the singers must have been busting at the opportunity to sing it.
The people in ‘’show business’’ back then were miles above what passes for ‘’class/class acts in our sad, sick world. We were blessed .
David Niven as Guest Panelist one week, Douglas Fairbanks, Jr. the next. Too. Much. Suavity. Can't. Breathe.
David niven remembering the last quest is great
Sometimes watching these episodes, I find myself clapping and laughing loudly. This was one of those shows. Arlene comes up with some very funny lines. John comes up with his usual bs obfuscating answers which are hilarious. Also this is the second time I've seen an episode with David Niven and both times he has definitely added to the show. I hope he's on more episodes.
One of my favourite episodes.
Feels like the whole cast, particularly Mr. Daly, were all very much giddy this episode! Quite a pleasant watch and a great showing by all.
I just started watching this show again after a couple years, I forgot how awesome it is. 2 or 3 years ago I watched every episode I could find and I'm back at it again. If I'm feeling like shit, this show cheers me up :)
Arlene's dress is SO pretty!!!
It is very flattering to her. She usually had a good fashion sense of what "accentuated her charms" (to borrow a phrase from a previous episode where the challenger designed maternity clothes).
That was a cool surprise that the bagpipe player/repairman/seller just happened to have served under David Niven (panelist) in WWII
No, David served under him.
They served together in Malta in 1936. The War didn't start until 1939, by which time Niven was a Hollywood actor. So he went home and signed up again.
What would most of us do to get programming of this quality back on television?
Oh, you mean you don't like what comes out of hollyweird any more?
It would not happen, the educational level of this country unfortunately is too low. The panelists and John are so literate. When they remade it in the 70's, it was a sad shadow of itself, very disappointing.
You'd also have the problem of fragmented popular culture, as well. There are so many subgroups and idiots famous for being idiots that you'd have a mess of a time trying to get a program like this going.
The contrast between 1950s TV and 2010s TV is too great to be overcome, I'm afraid.
Boycott television.
Supererogation! Wonderful!
"How much do you weigh, Bennett? " was funny.
Thank you for posting these, so enjoyable to watch people with manners.
LOVE this show. 😊
These are great! Such elegance. Thanks for posting.
Martin Sheen, whose birth name was Ramón Estevez, tells this story about his stage name. when he was first starting out as an actor, he wasn't getting any auditions and someone pointed out that, possibly, people were assuming from his name that he was a Latin American type. In actuality, he was of European Spanish ancestry. So he decided to adopt a stage name and when he thought about it, he came up with "Sheen" for a surname, since Americans knew of the Bishop who appeared on teleivision, Fulton J. Sheen. Martin Sheen said he figured you couldn't go wrong if you had the same last name as a bishop. The name change worked -- he started to get more opportunities to read for parts and got cast in some, thus making his name as an actor. Too bad people were as prejudiced as they were (and in many cases still are), because Martin Sheen is a fine actor and his name shouldn't have matter, not in my opinion anyway.
And interesting, that of his two sons, who are both actors -- one uses Sheen (Charlie) and the other, the very Latin-sounding Emilio Estevez.
I'm sure there was some prejudice involved, but in some cases, it may have just been that the name projected an image of a certain "type" of actor that did not accurately describe Ramon Estevez/Martin Sheen. Cesar Romero was very successful, but he was known as a "Latin lover" type. That type of role suited him but may not have been the type of role Ramon Estevez/Martin Sheen was going for.
ToddSF 94109 Martin Sheen's legal name is still Ramon Estevez. His mother's people were Irish and when he went to college recently for a term in Sligo, the west of Ireland, the Irish name Martin Sheen did not serve him so well what with his ID card that read Ramon Estevez. Nonetheless, they knew who he was. I believe he has a home in the west of the Irish Republic and his grandson from Emilio lives in the Asturias region of Spain, so the boy from Dayton, Ohio, is connected to the countries of all his ancestors while being a proud American.
According to Alan Jay Lerner' s autobiography, Rodgers and Hammerstein were asked to compose the music for "Pygmalion" first, but they tried for a whole year and gave up. So then, Alan and Fritz were asked to do it, and they tried for a year and gave up, but later they decided to try it again...
Really?? That's SO interesting!
By Jove, I think they got it!!
Bishop Sheen had the DuMont Network show "Life is Worth Living" which actually did well against stiff competition - Milton Berle.
Sheen also was very outspoken against Communism. He once made a forceful statement that Stalin must "One day meet his Maker" Stalin was dead within two weeks! This strange coincidence was highly publicized at the time. (Info source-"The Complete Directory of Prime Time Shows" by Tim Brooks/Earle Marsh). This was in early 1953
Overall, though, Bishop Sheen's show generally had a very positive tone and he was quite popular. He often used humor in his talks. They didn't come across as sermons in the usual sense. It's been said that "Life is Worth Living" was probably the most widely viewed religious series in history. (at least as of the1980's).
dont say stiff competition when talking about berle.
Oh my!
One time Bishop Sheen came out with a propeller beanie and said, "This is your Uncle Fulty!"
When Bishop Sheen was doing "Life is Worth Living," he told us how to differentiate between baloney and blarney. "Baloney," he said, "is an outright lie, but blarney is the unvarnished truth," and that's all I remember of his discourses, LOL.
This was so long ago, Alan Jay Lerner was on only the third of his eight marriages.
So long ago that Fulton J Sheen's 'Life is Worth Living', a weekly sermon, was one of TV's top-rated series. When it beat Milton Berle's show, Bishop Sheen said 'As long as they don't call me Uncle Fulty!'.
It is rather awe-inspiring to see a beatified candidate for sainthood as a game show guest, but WML always had extra class...
If only we could type the same of you...
@@unowen-nh9ov Or almost all of us.
@@esmeephillips5888don't let a jerk shake you. Your line about Lerner made me howl.
I'm so happy to see Bishop Sheen . I have a feeling people would hate him now, because he told the truth. I wish he was still here.
That Pig Hatchery owner segment was pretty funny.
When I reviewed this show several years ago when it was published hereon for our enjoyment I became aware of something I had not noticed as a kid while watching it with my parents. At the point where Arlene realizes it is two men she exclaims, "Hammacher Schlemmer," which is a catalog purveyor of an interesting variety of goods. Until a few years ago, I had had no idea it was a brick and mortar store in NYC in addition to its catalog business and has been around for quite a few years. It's fun to discover things in this that I had not noticed back in the day.
i expect that "Hammacher Schlemmer" was a popular exclamation -
which polite society used instead of the similar-sounding "h*** s***"
@@cbranalli there's a great use of the name in the movie Wait Until Dark, spoken by the creepy bad guy, played by Alan Arkin.
The bashful folks are just so charming! Mr. Smith and the Scotsman delight. Loved seeing Sheen.
Another first!! I think this is the first time that a guest was connected to a member of the panel in the past. Alex, the piper :), was in David Niven's regiment on Malta. That has to be a first...
It says a lot for Niven that he remembered his old colleague!
+John Waller Did the WML staff know this? It seems it was an amazing fluke.
+poetcomic1 I would tend to doubt it. I don't think they usually knew who the guest panelists were going to be for the coming week (or I presume they would have announced it for promotional reasons at the end of the shows). Plus which, they'd have to have been VERY lucky to be able to snare Niven the same week as the contestant. The only way I can see it being planned is if they knew of the connection from the contestant and booked Niven specifically as a result. But I can't really see how it would have come up in the preparatory interview. Why would the guy just casually mention to the show's staff out of nowhere that he served in David Niven's regiment?
But John Daly did know about it, because he, not Niven or the contestant, named the regiment in question. It's possible that it was a remarkable coincidence that the two of them came together on the same show, but clearly JD had been told of the connection in advance.
I think that John Daly was briefed about all the contestants before each show -- how to pronounce their names, what they did, etc. I'm not sure whether he even met them briefly before the show aired or not. But certainly Alex (I can't read his last name well enough to figure out how to spell it) must have told the WML production staffers who were helping him get ready for the show, and they must have told John beforehand.
I was confused about David Niven's question "twenty years ago" until I learned he'd served in the military during the 1930s, then as an actor, but was called back into service during WWII. Truth be told, I never knew he was a Scot.
He wasn't. He served in the Highland Light Infantry as an officer. But he himself was English
He wasn't called back, he volunteered. Churchill praised him that it was a great thing to do then added it would have been despicable if he had not come back to fight for his country.
@@Tiwaz81 The HLI, known to us in other regiments as “The Hairy Legged Irish” was one of the few Scottish regiments not to wear a kilt. They wore trews. Niven was partially Scots, and upon graduating from Sandhurst, requested posting to a Scottish regiment “Any of them, except the Highland Light Infantry” he wrote. (He fancied himself in a kilt.) He was therefore posted to the HLI where his Lieutenant-Colonel who knew of the request, gave him a very hard time. He ended up cutting his military career short, only to resume it with outstanding success. Niven served at one time in The Rifle Brigade, with my grandfather, who told me they shared kit together- mainly dry woolen socks.
David Niven is quite likable.
"SINCE WHEN DID PIGS COME OUT OF EGGS???" OH, DOROTHY, YOU KILL ME XDDDDDD
I just met the Bishop of my diocese, Bishop Soto, he came to “install” the new priest at my church. No one kissed his ring as Dorothy did, that’s old school. We simply shook his hand.
According to his niece, when Bishop Sheen went to LA he would make arrangements to hang with his cronies Jackie Gleason and Milton Berle.
Great show!!!
John Daly was the master of obfuscation! (:
He certainly out did himself in game two. He made pigs exceedingly complicated.
The day John Daly made things simple is when pigs would fly.
"You've got a crazy sponsor!!"
What few people know about David given is he went to and graduated from the British academy like our west point
Yes he went to Sandhurst and was commissioned in the British Army. Was bored with peacetime duty and resigned and began acting. When the war started he returned to England and rejoined the Army. By war's end he was a Lt Colonel.
" This is gold Jerry! GOLD!!" -- Bania, from Seinfeld. Whoever were the prescient geniuses to save thses old shows show be given an Emmy and or a Medal of Honor. These films throughly enjoyable 😉.
Alan J. Lerner, despite his financial woes due to his many marriages and bad money management, was a major benefactor of my HS alma mater (Tyne Daly a member of the first graduation class - I started attending a few months later). His donation enabled us to buy the property on which the school (and some of the original buildings) are still located today in Rockland County (NY).
Thank you Lois for this insight. I can feel your gratitude.
@@dcasper8514 Sadly the school closed its doors in August 2019, just 2½ weeks before the start of the 2019-20 academic year. And had they managed to find a way to stay open by the skin of their teeth, they would not have survived the pandemic. The 60th anniversary of the school and my class's 50th reunion can only be celebrated virtually at a distance from one another. But we do have a solid group of alumni who are close together online.
Lois. I do enjoy reading your comments of your background. It's refreshing to read anything written by someone with grammatical knowledge.
Such delightful, intelligent, well-spoken people. Thank you so much for sharing these wonderful videos!
Of note, as of 2020...Bishop Sheen is on the Process Path, to be declared a Saint by the Roman Catholic Church.....so odd, watching this man, on TV a visual record of a Saint in Progress....
But we’re all saints in progress. Sheen may be canonized soon, but we all need to strive for holiness in our walk of life, every day.
Dorothy showed him due respect. She really did have class.
@@m.e.d.7997 Well, she was Catholic, of course she did :)
What's his miracle? Aren't saints supposed to have miracles?
@@mugglesarecooltoo Since he came from Peoria, Illinois, may his miracle came in 2016 when the Cubs finally won the World Series.
Niven is among my favorite guest panelists. Not only for the amazing accent but he has a confidence and humor that I think is unique from the many comedians and vaudeville guys that come on. Truly a legendary stage presence
Oh, the Scots...loved that guy!
David Niven was a Major in the British army during WW2 and received the Victory cross the same rank as the USA MEDAL OF HONOR
The Victory medal that DN (and all full time soldiers) received is not the Victoria Cross which he did not receive.
Rubbish. What a load of old cobblers.