I just wish they publish the source code some day. I'd love to change railroads from infinite movement to 12 movement points flat, like mechanized infantry on regular roads.
Hey, loving the videos. Few questions: 1) why are you not building any granaries when they're arguably the best building in the game? 2) why don't you set the governor to manage happiness so cities don't randomly fall into revolt and become unproductive for a turn? 3) which victory condition are you going for? Thank!
1) I love granaries, and I built one in sumer. I generally only like to have one city with a granary unless I have more than 4 surplus food. Here Sumer is 3 surplus food due to the agri bonus. The only city with more than 3 surplus food was Kish, but Kish was in danger of culture flipping and needed a library. If you played on a 60% water map this might change obviously. The reason for this is you get the granary bonus every time you grow. So the value of a granary scales with the amount of surplus food you have, and they aren't as efficient if you have less surplus food. Additionally, granaries are more useful if you have good tiles for the new citizen to work. Here I had few good tiles, only the bonus grassland around ur and sumer. Especially up north the land was bad, I hadn't irrigated enough plains yet. 2) Generally you shouldn't solve happiness with entertainers, which the governor does. The governor will assign a new citizen to be an entertainer IIRC. Even if you fix it instantly, you still lose the shields from the tile the city would have worked (since when your city grows, you get the shields from the tile the new citizen was assigned during the interturn). 3)Probably diplomatic here :)
So you're leaving some Coastal and even a border settlement open? A conservative fuddy-duddy such as myself would garrison them religiously even if it's logically hopeless against sneak attacks. Glad to see you like Courthouses too; help to make marginally useful Towns into productive Cities. Always tried for ToE but neglected Hoover Dam (does it give production bennies to Cities w/o Factories?). Gotta remember that for my next try at Demigod---which is at my level of incompetence---this time on a Large Map. Wish me luck. Cheers!
Hoover Dam does not give production to cities without factories. Ideally I should have something to defend coastal cities (maybe an outpost wall) but sometimes you just have to gamble.
Notice how Ur and Sumer are on the same tiny little lake? That's because to get the food bonus, you need to be next to fresh water if you're in despotism. Same thing with the placements of Umma and Nagsu, both close together, but worth it for the food bonus. With the extra food, I was able to keep up in growth with what would have otherwise been bad land. If I wasn't agricultural in this position, I'd probably have had to conquer to keep up.
Fascingating. I’ve been playing since I was an undergraduate, many years ago, but game mechanics are still being revealed to me. Did I hear you say that Forbidden Palace doesn’t affect the surrounding cities, as the palace does?
@@jamesbowie7927 Here's an article on the subject. www.civfanatics.com/civ3/strategy/game-mechanics/everything-about-corruption-c3c-edition/ The effect on nearby cities is almost non-existent. The biggest effect is a general one that applies to all your cities. Also, the city with the forbidden palace in it has an enormous reduction (~70%) in corruption. So ideally you want the forbidden palace in a city with high commerce/production, and with high corruption. But if the city is too corrupt, it will take forever to build.
Great vid as always, learned a ton from it. There just one thing bothering me. The picture gets blurry whenever you scroll the screen, making it less comfortable to watch. Since you play the game quite fast and my eyes have to wait and refocus with the vid. Some details are unreadable due to the same reason. It would be really nice if you can do something to the video quality. Thanks
Yeah, it has to do with bitrate. My microphone cuts out sometimes when I record, and when I increase the video quality it happens more often. I think it's been more stable since I patched OBS though, so I might be able to improve it.
You know, irked me a bit when you complained that you did not have any saltpeter, when it was right under your nose. You could have planted a city on the hill to north of Akshak and steal it away from Mayans, along with others few tiles. Then rush a library and a temple to prevent culture flip and there youdl'd have a half-decent city and solve a saltpeter problem.
Why did you use the babylon worker to grow the city? This worker you pay no maintenance so I guess you want to keep him and join a normal worker ? This game you are really on top.. you are ahead in tech, having fantastic production, getting a lot of gold... I thought factories were very important but you didn't prioritize as much.
I didn't need factories to close out the game so they weren't high priority. Normal workers are faster. So if I was under the unit support cap (or didn't care much about gold) it's better to join the foreign worker.
@@suedeciviii7142 I guess it's better this way.. the foreign worker would keep the unit cap higher though so you would have one more in the future so it's not completely useless to keep him but you were building those rails so it makes sense. By the way, what do you think about that game with the bombers vs the persians? Unfortunately I think I have given you my earliest save of it so I don't have the option of right of passage anymore. It's a pretty strange Pangaea as well.. if you think it's not winnable or maybe not worthwhile the effort let me know cause I certainly won't be able to win if it's going to be super hard or if you think it's unwinnable.
I don’t understand why you’re hoarding your money. You know factories/coal plants are right around the corner and you have cities still building barracks and universities?
Factories aren't actually super important. If a city is low enough production that it hasn't finished it's university then a factory is not an especially good investment. If a city is high production as is done everything else, what's the hurry to build factory? What would I do with those shields? I'd rather keep the cash on hand for an emergency. The only reason I'd buy factory is for mass bomber or to guarantee Theory of Evolution.
Take Erech for example, 3 mountains, we’ll say 2 because one of them goes to the city with Iron Works. 2 mountains without mines and it’d be more shields with railroads. Plus a factory plus a coal plant and you can be busting out units every turn. I’d rather have my money working for me so I can prevent the emergencies in the first place and this seems like the way to do it. Maybe I’m wrong, I haven’t reached the end of the game. I’m curious on where this strategy goes.
@@jasperlawford Erech has maybe 14 base shield once I mine those gems? Factory + coal plant is like 480 shields or something, plus pollution and maintenance costs. The shield investment would take 36 turns to pay itself off. 36 turns later I have all but won the game. I'd rather have the flexibility in the short term, in case I need it for a tech trade or an emergency. Or if like, my GPT deals go dry and I need to run an extended defecit. Rushing universities might be more justifiable though!
I did see you ended up winning in a diplomatic victory through the UN. Most of the games I play I win by conquest, mass army of modern armor armies. Which after watching your videos seems rather excessive.
Civ 3 is probably the greatest civ of all time
Not probably, it is the best, i only wish they would make civ 7 in the style of civ 3 civ 5 and 6 are ugly i cant cope with the graphics
I just wish they publish the source code some day. I'd love to change railroads from infinite movement to 12 movement points flat, like mechanized infantry on regular roads.
I love Civ 5, but 3 is my favorite
Hey, loving the videos. Few questions:
1) why are you not building any granaries when they're arguably the best building in the game?
2) why don't you set the governor to manage happiness so cities don't randomly fall into revolt and become unproductive for a turn?
3) which victory condition are you going for?
Thank!
1) I love granaries, and I built one in sumer.
I generally only like to have one city with a granary unless I have more than 4 surplus food. Here Sumer is 3 surplus food due to the agri bonus. The only city with more than 3 surplus food was Kish, but Kish was in danger of culture flipping and needed a library.
If you played on a 60% water map this might change obviously.
The reason for this is you get the granary bonus every time you grow. So the value of a granary scales with the amount of surplus food you have, and they aren't as efficient if you have less surplus food.
Additionally, granaries are more useful if you have good tiles for the new citizen to work. Here I had few good tiles, only the bonus grassland around ur and sumer. Especially up north the land was bad, I hadn't irrigated enough plains yet.
2) Generally you shouldn't solve happiness with entertainers, which the governor does.
The governor will assign a new citizen to be an entertainer IIRC. Even if you fix it instantly, you still lose the shields from the tile the city would have worked (since when your city grows, you get the shields from the tile the new citizen was assigned during the interturn).
3)Probably diplomatic here :)
So you're leaving some Coastal and even a border settlement open? A conservative fuddy-duddy such as myself would garrison them religiously even if it's logically hopeless against sneak attacks. Glad to see you like Courthouses too; help to make marginally useful Towns into productive Cities. Always tried for ToE but neglected Hoover Dam (does it give production bennies to Cities w/o Factories?). Gotta remember that for my next try at Demigod---which is at my level of incompetence---this time on a Large Map. Wish me luck. Cheers!
Hoover Dam does not give production to cities without factories.
Ideally I should have something to defend coastal cities (maybe an outpost wall) but sometimes you just have to gamble.
cant believe you skipped expanding the palace! haha gg
Love the vids. I have so many questions.
I get that you are playing an agricultural civ. I’m what way are you *exploiting* the agricultural trait?
Notice how Ur and Sumer are on the same tiny little lake? That's because to get the food bonus, you need to be next to fresh water if you're in despotism. Same thing with the placements of Umma and Nagsu, both close together, but worth it for the food bonus.
With the extra food, I was able to keep up in growth with what would have otherwise been bad land. If I wasn't agricultural in this position, I'd probably have had to conquer to keep up.
Fascingating.
I’ve been playing since I was an undergraduate, many years ago, but game mechanics are still being revealed to me.
Did I hear you say that Forbidden Palace doesn’t affect the surrounding cities, as the palace does?
@@jamesbowie7927 Here's an article on the subject.
www.civfanatics.com/civ3/strategy/game-mechanics/everything-about-corruption-c3c-edition/
The effect on nearby cities is almost non-existent. The biggest effect is a general one that applies to all your cities. Also, the city with the forbidden palace in it has an enormous reduction (~70%) in corruption.
So ideally you want the forbidden palace in a city with high commerce/production, and with high corruption. But if the city is too corrupt, it will take forever to build.
Nice vídeo, how You put un HD? I can find civilización.ini i have the complete versión
1:15:48 Great job Greece-ing their hands into war, hahaha! :-D
Great vid as always, learned a ton from it. There just one thing bothering me. The picture gets blurry whenever you scroll the screen, making it less comfortable to watch. Since you play the game quite fast and my eyes have to wait and refocus with the vid. Some details are unreadable due to the same reason. It would be really nice if you can do something to the video quality. Thanks
Yeah, it has to do with bitrate. My microphone cuts out sometimes when I record, and when I increase the video quality it happens more often.
I think it's been more stable since I patched OBS though, so I might be able to improve it.
Suede CivIII civ3 under win 10 alone is unstable enough, my bgm crushes everytime i do diplomacy
You know, irked me a bit when you complained that you did not have any saltpeter, when it was right under your nose. You could have planted a city on the hill to north of Akshak and steal it away from Mayans, along with others few tiles. Then rush a library and a temple to prevent culture flip and there youdl'd have a half-decent city and solve a saltpeter problem.
Why was I complaining about saltpeter? I had one near erech.
@@suedeciviii7142 because you've sold your only saltpeter to Rome and then realized that you need more cav.
@@VonKrauzer Oh hahah. That seems like an expensive solution to the problem, although more land is always good on maps of this size.
Why did you use the babylon worker to grow the city? This worker you pay no maintenance so I guess you want to keep him and join a normal worker ? This game you are really on top.. you are ahead in tech, having fantastic production, getting a lot of gold... I thought factories were very important but you didn't prioritize as much.
I didn't need factories to close out the game so they weren't high priority.
Normal workers are faster. So if I was under the unit support cap (or didn't care much about gold) it's better to join the foreign worker.
@@suedeciviii7142 I guess it's better this way.. the foreign worker would keep the unit cap higher though so you would have one more in the future so it's not completely useless to keep him but you were building those rails so it makes sense. By the way, what do you think about that game with the bombers vs the persians? Unfortunately I think I have given you my earliest save of it so I don't have the option of right of passage anymore. It's a pretty strange Pangaea as well.. if you think it's not winnable or maybe not worthwhile the effort let me know cause I certainly won't be able to win if it's going to be super hard or if you think it's unwinnable.
@@Chris-cs7nv I had a look, it's very interesting! I'll have to play it through to figure it out. Looks totally winnable, I have some ideas.
@@suedeciviii7142 Great let me know once that's done thank you very much !
Play Portugal on Sid.
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The negotiations were short
I don’t understand why you’re hoarding your money. You know factories/coal plants are right around the corner and you have cities still building barracks and universities?
Factories aren't actually super important. If a city is low enough production that it hasn't finished it's university then a factory is not an especially good investment. If a city is high production as is done everything else, what's the hurry to build factory? What would I do with those shields?
I'd rather keep the cash on hand for an emergency. The only reason I'd buy factory is for mass bomber or to guarantee Theory of Evolution.
Take Erech for example, 3 mountains, we’ll say 2 because one of them goes to the city with Iron Works. 2 mountains without mines and it’d be more shields with railroads. Plus a factory plus a coal plant and you can be busting out units every turn.
I’d rather have my money working for me so I can prevent the emergencies in the first place and this seems like the way to do it.
Maybe I’m wrong, I haven’t reached the end of the game. I’m curious on where this strategy goes.
@@jasperlawford Erech has maybe 14 base shield once I mine those gems? Factory + coal plant is like 480 shields or something, plus pollution and maintenance costs. The shield investment would take 36 turns to pay itself off. 36 turns later I have all but won the game. I'd rather have the flexibility in the short term, in case I need it for a tech trade or an emergency. Or if like, my GPT deals go dry and I need to run an extended defecit.
Rushing universities might be more justifiable though!
I did see you ended up winning in a diplomatic victory through the UN.
Most of the games I play I win by conquest, mass army of modern armor armies. Which after watching your videos seems rather excessive.
@@jasperlawford Appreciate the spoiler, bro.