To be honest, I thought Puma was dead. Now all of a sudden they're making the best shoes out there. I'm honestly happy for them, what a remarkable come up.
I recently swapped the Velocity Nitro 2 out of my rotation for the Forever Run Nitro and it's really improved my long runs. When i come back to my speedier sessions my legs feel a lot more rested. I use the Deviate Nitro 2 on my faster sessions. I love this new generation of Puma shoes. They're doing a fantastic job. This is a brilliant review. Thanks Kofuzi.
Loving the Elites 3, they feel taller and more protective than VF3 and much less agressive in the arch area. Taking the pumas to the México City marathon this Sunday!
I have the DNE3. It’s a fantastic shoe. Only issue I had with it initially was I had bad heel rub, as it’s a pretty long shoe. So much so that maybe I would’ve been better going down half a size. After heel locking them (aka runners knot) that issue went away and I’ve loved them since. I’ve raced them in a 5k, two 10k’s and a half marathon so far and they’re so comfy yet bouncy and quick. They helped me to a big PB in all 3 distances. I will be using them for my first marathon race next year too
Superb review as always! I agree, the PUMA design team have done a phenomenal job of keeping what's been solid about the Deviate Elite line, while making subtle yet impactful changes that take these shoes to the next level. There's definitely a good reason why PUMA athletes choose the Deviate Elite 3. If you try them out, you will not be disappointed.
The Magnify Nitro 2 is vastly underrated. Not so heavy that it's stuck solely in the recovery category, but with enough responsiveness and cushion that it can be an excellent long run shoe.
I've just picket up running this year, ran way less than i intended to, but still i hung onto it! Watched a lot of your vids and loved them, very informative and useful! I've got a pair of Novablast 4 and love them! Only did 2 runs in them, but the 10k felt suuuper easy at aerobic pace. I'm switching a few stuff between gym training and running and i'll 100% put more volume into the runs and next year i'm aiming for a half marathon! Thanks again for your work! Cheers from Romania!
Just got the Deviate Nitro Elite 3... and wow. Feels like the Vaporfly 2 except a bit more responsive and perfectly bouncy and firm (to me). I am loving it so far. This might be my full-time race shoe now!!
I enjoyed running in this shoe. It really feels light on the feet and very propulsive in spite of the foam being softer. The stack height is also protective making it more amenable for longer distances. For me, it's one of the best running shoes Puma has made together with Deviate Nitro 2 and 3.
It looks great as a $200+ super shoes, premium upper solid build quality 🔥 I have a pair of Elite 2, they still lovely at 700+km, helped me won my first ever 1st 10k race at time 37 min. Can’t wait to get the new one🙌🏻
For the life of me the Alphafly3 just didn't work Switched to a pair of Nitro Elite 3 and runs are effortless now 10/10 highly recommend thank you Kofuzi ❤
love your breakdown of shoes...it makes me think/ be more aware of sensations when I run...Nabbed some deviate nitro 2 this year when then went on sale based on your previous review - they are working well...Thx Mike!
I am absolutely loving these Elite 3s such a fun and amazing shoe it is both comfortable and springy - I will be comparing it to the SC Elite v4 to see which one I want to race in
Great review video as per always 👏. I've just pulled the trigger on a pair of fast r nitro elite 2s as advise from youelf and Eddbud and looking forward to racing in them. Will accompany my other puma's the liberate 2 and velocity 1s, also run in adidas.
I just started running about a year ago and as a newbie runner you are faced with a problem on which shoe fits you perfectly. Im so glad i came across puma, dont get me wrong, i have different shoes from different brands but when push comes to shove, i always reach for my cats.
Awesome review! I have been a Saucony girl for over 40 years and within the last year have converted to Puma. Love every pair of Pumas that I have. As a petite lady, I still love the Elite 1s. Elite 2s seemed too heavy. Considering Elite 3s 😊
Comparison to the vaporfly 3 makes sense. The plate position looks almost exactly the same (same with the edge paris) and the stack height is similar. Very interesting shoe. I'll have to check it out since I love the VP2
Still rockin' my DNE1s (I believe you reviewed the Tracksmith edition). It's one of my favorite speed day shoes. Not as fast as my TS9 but wayyy more comfy. Itching to try that aliphatic TPU. Pity they didn't bring it to the DN3.
I have the DN2, and have tons of miles in it, it is so durable that it still looks and feels ok... i am looking for a race day shoe, and with the experience with the DN2, I would have to go with the DNE3...
Did puma made the shoe that new balance cant do with balancing the freshfoam and fuel cell tech? I think Puma is doing something here and I like how the market is giving us a lot of choices. Thanks Mike for this review
personally, I would prefer the Deviate Nitro Elite 3 for the marathon distance. I prefer the aliphatic TPU over the current iteration of Zoom X foam that is in the Vaporfly 3 but I suspect that for many people, if you can run well in the one, you can probably run well in the other
I'm always hearing that you should go half a size down in the puma deviate nitro elite 3 compared to the vaporfly 3 for example. Is that true? I'm having a 44,5 in the VP3, so should I buy a 44EU in the PDNE3?
I think you definitely should. For two reasons. Check the US sizing and you will see that Puma US10.5 is EU 44 and Nike US10.5 is EU 44.5. So if you were seeing it as an American customer, you'd be getting the same size in both Nike and Puma (10.5), but the Puma would be half a size down in EU sizing. And I confirm that this is true, I need Puma 45 (US 11.5) for my DN2 and Nike 45.5 (US 11.5) for my Pegasus for example to have the same length/room for the toes. The second reason you should go for the 44, is that the DNE3 runs even longer than the other Puma shoes (the DN2 and the Foreverrun which I have both.).
Both are great options. The Deviate Nitro Elite 3 is lightweight and snappy but comfortable at a wide variety of paces. The Endorphin zero 4 is more stable and softer, but it’s also heavier and less aggressive
Nice review! Im also more power/lower cadence but need generally wider toe box. Have DNE 2 and DN2 and would love to get to DNE 3 but the narrowness sucks 😕 So hard to tell what shoes will suit wider foot runner. New Balance have wider standard, but also wider options but also amongst most expensive of the race shoes
I gave my original foreverrun away because I didnt get on with them. But recently came across the newer knit version which has a lower drop and a better upper (imo) and they are dreamy soft and smooth
couple thoughts: 1) I believe the plate in VF3 starts near the foot in the heel and then scoops low in front of the arch. so I could be wrong, but I don't think that the plate stays near the foot for the entire length of the VF3. looking at the plate through the window on the bottom of the shoe indicates an angle that swoops the plate away from the foot as you approach the pads of the foot 2) similarly, the plate in the DNE3 starts about in the middle of the stack in the heel and then scoops away from the foot at a sharp angle in front of the arch. RunnersNerd on IG has a really informative reel that shows the plate and foam pieces separately.
Thats because several Puma models dont have a US 12.5… i went a half size up on my deviate nitro 2‘s. Was a bit too long, slight mid foot lock down issue, but no heel slippage
Should I buy the deviate nitro 2 ? Or the elite one , they are both on sale help please, should i go true to size ? Or go half size down as on the elite 3
if I have to generalize and compare Endorphins (which I will define only as Endorphin Speed 4 and Endorphin Pro 4 and will exclude Endorphin Elite 1 and 2 and also exclude Endorphin Shift) to the Nitros (which I will define as Deviate Nitro Elite 3 and Deviate Nitro 3 and specifically disclaim Velocity Nitro 3 and Liberate Nitro 2), then I'd say the Endorphins are softer but less responsive. but it's kind of a difficult question to answer
@@kofuzi Fair enough. Happened to me, Got injured im the end end then searched for similar experiences and found out I was not the only one, not even close. It 's a bummer cause i really Like those kicks.
Hi, I’m currently considering between Salomon S/LAB PHANTASM 2 and ON CLOUDMONSTER HYPER and I saw borh of your product review videos but can’t decide by myself. What would you go for?
@housinihou Another helpful way to decide is to try to find a brick and mortar store that has both in stock (Roadrunner Sports, eg) and actually try them on and test them yourself. It’s always better to see how a shoe works for your individual build and biomechanics in the end if you have that option. Or order both from Running Warehouse and return the one that doesn’t work as well for you. They have a nice return policy even after wearing them outside.
I hope that Hoka will send a pair to review soon, but I am currently at quite a backlog of other shoes to review first. so either way, it may take a while
Hi Kofuzi; I love the Puma Velocity Nitro 3 as daily shoe. It is a very good shoe for heelstriking. The heel feels very stable and secure. Is it the same with the heel in this shoe? What would you say is the best race shoe for heelstrikers?
A1. yes, but relatively speaking for a racing shoe with racing foam A2. I generally don't like to use the word best (because I don't know which criteria a person includes when evaluating best), but it would be a shoe worth trying
I have DNE2 in my standard size and they feel really tight, should I size up with DNE3? I plan to use them for my 1st marathon. Some feet swelling is expected as I am experiencing it from the 2-3,5 hour long runs.
I’d recommend trying to find a place where you can try them on. Version 3 fits differently than version 2, and depending on where and how they feel right, the differences may be enough. If you absolutely cannot find a place to try them on, size up.
@@kofuzi thanks, these carbon shoes are usually missing in all the local shops, so I just ordered online - 1 size bigger without trying and I am hoping for the best :) if it will be slightly bigger, I can use proper thicker socks, which I couldn't do at all in the previous case
Same problem here. It’s out of stock everywhere (at least in the US), including on Puma’s website… It’s like Puma doesn’t actually want people to bug the shoe!
@@kofuzi eddbud just did a video on fun shoes and he's got a point: it's not about Strava segments or setting PB's, it's about it being fun and enjoying yourself.
we are at a point in the industry where there isn't an objective absolute answer anymore. a lot of the decision is going to come down to preferences and mechanics of the runner. personally, I prefer the Deviate Nitro Elite 3 over the Endorphin Pro 4
I ended up preferring the Endo Pro3 over v4. It’s not quite as soft (which for me is preferable in this case) and suits my quick turnover better. I stocked up on two late-date-manufactured pairs recently-highly discounted on Running Warehouse.
Puma. Let me give you money please, keep things in stock for more than two seconds. Also Ko do you feel like the Deviate Elite is narrower than the Fastr? Or is it about the same
Lighstrike Pro is not peba. The lighstrike pro in the Adios Pro Evo 1 is also different, although I’m not sure if it’s solely a processing difference or if it’s also a chemical difference
the fit is better than the last two years of the Nitro Elite 3, but still a racer fit (I thought I said that in the review, but I'm now thinking that I might have cut it for brevity) I went with the same size in all the shoes that I mentioned in this video
I will always support your RUclips channel Mr.Kofuzi.You're a humble person and you're so good to explain every shoes you review.Run safe and hope to see you soon.God bless always from your avid fan Peter Andrew Chua from the Philippines.❤❤❤
Yeoh kofuzi good day to you. Just want to know which one between the endorphin pro 4 and Puma DNE 3 is suitable for flat footed? Hope you can read and reply to my query . Thanks and more power to your channel 🫡
It is the shoe that was shown in the livestream clip at the end of this video. I received the shoe two days prior to this video getting published to RUclips
@@kofuzi On the puma site there are for sale the puma deviate nitro 3 but not the version that you show in this video 🤔🤔🤔 ( I want to buy exactly this version and this color that is in your video do you know where to buy it please ? )
Without speculating on what a brand may or may not be thinking when publishing a weight, I assume that there is likely variance in weight that randomly occurs due to variances that may exist in the production process I’ve never tried sitting down a weighing 100 pairs of identical shoes before, but I would be shocked if they all weighed exactly the same
That’s two very different questions. 1) this is not great for daily training 2) I don’t have a problem with daily training in a shoe that has a plate, per se. it’s not as simple as “plate=bad”
@@kofuzi I tried to get both questions to go in the same direction: that I find plated shoes in general to provide a bit more assistance than the non-plated shoes and if that is the case, it might be safe to assume that you get more of a workout in the shoes without plates. More to the point, it takes more energy output to move down the road and therefore a runner increases leg strength with the necessary endurance following. Doctors of running seem to also postulate the same conclusion. As a show reviewer, with much more experience than I have, I was wondering if you noticed that general phenomenon. If I move more into specifics then I find that I get a better workout in shoes such as the SB2 and the NB Balos more than the B12 or the DN3. I just find myself basically fitter the next day when daily training in non-plated shoes. Not to say plate is bad, they help with extending my distance and over enthusiasm. Just wondering if you have noticed any of my aforementioned thoughts. Thanks
Someone that successful is probably courted by multiple brands and aside from monetary factors, I expect they would factor in whose shoes work for them. A shoe that doesn’t suit their biomechanics would not be conducive to maximizing their success in major races. Grumpy take indeed.
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To be honest, I thought Puma was dead. Now all of a sudden they're making the best shoes out there. I'm honestly happy for them, what a remarkable come up.
A big assist to Nike’s terrible business plan of the last 1/2 decade. Gave air to Puma, Saucony, NB, and even allowed for OC to grow from nothing.
I managed to buy this exact colorway and I'll say it now: it's the best looking shoe of 2024. Love it ♥
It’s a good looking shoe
I recently swapped the Velocity Nitro 2 out of my rotation for the Forever Run Nitro and it's really improved my long runs. When i come back to my speedier sessions my legs feel a lot more rested. I use the Deviate Nitro 2 on my faster sessions. I love this new generation of Puma shoes. They're doing a fantastic job. This is a brilliant review. Thanks Kofuzi.
glad you're enjoying the Forever Run!
I have been waiting for this review. Just bought the Elite 2, its on sale for $111.
I've really been wondering about this too. And I think it looks cool!
Where was that sale?
where?
Loving the Elites 3, they feel taller and more protective than VF3 and much less agressive in the arch area. Taking the pumas to the México City marathon this Sunday!
I want to take my for Valencia marathon. Good luck
How did it go?
Hope you get what you want
@@jamesnewsam the shoes where awesome. Me in the other hand strugle with cramps since mile 20 for a 3:56 time
I have the DNE3. It’s a fantastic shoe. Only issue I had with it initially was I had bad heel rub, as it’s a pretty long shoe. So much so that maybe I would’ve been better going down half a size. After heel locking them (aka runners knot) that issue went away and I’ve loved them since. I’ve raced them in a 5k, two 10k’s and a half marathon so far and they’re so comfy yet bouncy and quick. They helped me to a big PB in all 3 distances. I will be using them for my first marathon race next year too
Superb review as always! I agree, the PUMA design team have done a phenomenal job of keeping what's been solid about the Deviate Elite line, while making subtle yet impactful changes that take these shoes to the next level. There's definitely a good reason why PUMA athletes choose the Deviate Elite 3. If you try them out, you will not be disappointed.
The Magnify Nitro 2 is vastly underrated. Not so heavy that it's stuck solely in the recovery category, but with enough responsiveness and cushion that it can be an excellent long run shoe.
Agree
I've just picket up running this year, ran way less than i intended to, but still i hung onto it! Watched a lot of your vids and loved them, very informative and useful! I've got a pair of Novablast 4 and love them! Only did 2 runs in them, but the 10k felt suuuper easy at aerobic pace. I'm switching a few stuff between gym training and running and i'll 100% put more volume into the runs and next year i'm aiming for a half marathon! Thanks again for your work! Cheers from Romania!
Great job with your running. Keep it up!
Just got the Deviate Nitro Elite 3... and wow. Feels like the Vaporfly 2 except a bit more responsive and perfectly bouncy and firm (to me). I am loving it so far. This might be my full-time race shoe now!!
I enjoyed running in this shoe. It really feels light on the feet and very propulsive in spite of the foam being softer. The stack height is also protective making it more amenable for longer distances. For me, it's one of the best running shoes Puma has made together with Deviate Nitro 2 and 3.
Best racing shoe I have, better than my Vaporfly 3 and Endorphin Pro 2, what an incredible shoe!
Agree .. it's a gem
I don't do races, so imma stick with my deviate nitro 3 ❤ great review as always mike
It looks great as a $200+ super shoes, premium upper solid build quality 🔥 I have a pair of Elite 2, they still lovely at 700+km, helped me won my first ever 1st 10k race at time 37 min. Can’t wait to get the new one🙌🏻
Love Puma shoes, so thanks for your review.👍🏻
thanks for watching!
For the life of me the Alphafly3 just didn't work
Switched to a pair of Nitro Elite 3 and runs are effortless now
10/10 highly recommend thank you Kofuzi ❤
Glad you found a shoe that works!
love your breakdown of shoes...it makes me think/ be more aware of sensations when I run...Nabbed some deviate nitro 2 this year when then went on sale based on your previous review - they are working well...Thx Mike!
glad to hear the nitro 2 is working for you!
I am absolutely loving these Elite 3s such a fun and amazing shoe it is both comfortable and springy - I will be comparing it to the SC Elite v4 to see which one I want to race in
Great review video as per always 👏.
I've just pulled the trigger on a pair of fast r nitro elite 2s as advise from youelf and Eddbud and looking forward to racing in them.
Will accompany my other puma's the liberate 2 and velocity 1s, also run in adidas.
hope you enjoy racing in the Fast R2!
I just started running about a year ago and as a newbie runner you are faced with a problem on which shoe fits you perfectly.
Im so glad i came across puma, dont get me wrong, i have different shoes from different brands but when push comes to shove, i always reach for my cats.
glad to hear you found something that works for you!
Awesome review! I have been a Saucony girl for over 40 years and within the last year have converted to Puma. Love every pair of Pumas that I have. As a petite lady, I still love the Elite 1s. Elite 2s seemed too heavy. Considering Elite 3s 😊
Comparison to the vaporfly 3 makes sense. The plate position looks almost exactly the same (same with the edge paris) and the stack height is similar. Very interesting shoe. I'll have to check it out since I love the VP2
Still rockin' my DNE1s (I believe you reviewed the Tracksmith edition). It's one of my favorite speed day shoes. Not as fast as my TS9 but wayyy more comfy. Itching to try that aliphatic TPU. Pity they didn't bring it to the DN3.
Great review. I can't wait to try them soon.
Hope you enjoy!
Really like the Puma MagMax Nitro and Elite Nitro 3 combo.
My go to at the moment
wont buy this because of the fit, but i’ll watch and like anyway cause it’s Kofuzi so why not
thanks for the support!
I have the DN2, and have tons of miles in it, it is so durable that it still looks and feels ok... i am looking for a race day shoe, and with the experience with the DN2, I would have to go with the DNE3...
Hi. Great description. Like to Kofuzi. Happy friday.
thank you!
Did puma made the shoe that new balance cant do with balancing the freshfoam and fuel cell tech? I think Puma is doing something here and I like how the market is giving us a lot of choices. Thanks Mike for this review
Dying to try this. My V1 of this is an epic shoe in every way.
Stellar review, Mike.
thanks Colin!
Have multiple PBs now in the DNE3...but still debating for Berlin between them and the VF3...which are you reaching for in the Marathon distance?
personally, I would prefer the Deviate Nitro Elite 3 for the marathon distance. I prefer the aliphatic TPU over the current iteration of Zoom X foam that is in the Vaporfly 3
but I suspect that for many people, if you can run well in the one, you can probably run well in the other
I'm always hearing that you should go half a size down in the puma deviate nitro elite 3 compared to the vaporfly 3 for example. Is that true? I'm having a 44,5 in the VP3, so should I buy a 44EU in the PDNE3?
I’ve never heard that. I went same size in all of the shoes mentioned in this video
I think you definitely should. For two reasons. Check the US sizing and you will see that Puma US10.5 is EU 44 and Nike US10.5 is EU 44.5. So if you were seeing it as an American customer, you'd be getting the same size in both Nike and Puma (10.5), but the Puma would be half a size down in EU sizing. And I confirm that this is true, I need Puma 45 (US 11.5) for my DN2 and Nike 45.5 (US 11.5) for my Pegasus for example to have the same length/room for the toes. The second reason you should go for the 44, is that the DNE3 runs even longer than the other Puma shoes (the DN2 and the Foreverrun which I have both.).
My alphafly 3 was US 9.5 but my DNE3 was US 9
You have to go down half a size otherwise there's gonna be heel slippage issues
Thanks for all the replies. Currently waiting for the white colorway to re release in the nitro elite 3y
Hello. Great review. Which would you recommend for first time marathon racers, the endorphin pro 4 or DNE3? Thanks.
Both are great options. The Deviate Nitro Elite 3 is lightweight and snappy but comfortable at a wide variety of paces. The Endorphin zero 4 is more stable and softer, but it’s also heavier and less aggressive
Nice review! Im also more power/lower cadence but need generally wider toe box. Have DNE 2 and DN2 and would love to get to DNE 3 but the narrowness sucks 😕 So hard to tell what shoes will suit wider foot runner. New Balance have wider standard, but also wider options but also amongst most expensive of the race shoes
Thank you Mike.
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I wonder why Puma doesn’t restock this shoe on their website. It’s been sold out for a while.
inventory management is a difficult art to master
Hi, can you compare the midsole softness of Puma DNE3 vs Asics MSE Paris vs NB SC Elite V4 please
I gave my original foreverrun away because I didnt get on with them. But recently came across the newer knit version which has a lower drop and a better upper (imo) and they are dreamy soft and smooth
How do these compare to the Endorphin Pro 4s!?
Do you know where the plate is placed in the shoe? Near the foot like the VF3 or near the ground like the Edge?
couple thoughts:
1) I believe the plate in VF3 starts near the foot in the heel and then scoops low in front of the arch. so I could be wrong, but I don't think that the plate stays near the foot for the entire length of the VF3. looking at the plate through the window on the bottom of the shoe indicates an angle that swoops the plate away from the foot as you approach the pads of the foot
2) similarly, the plate in the DNE3 starts about in the middle of the stack in the heel and then scoops away from the foot at a sharp angle in front of the arch. RunnersNerd on IG has a really informative reel that shows the plate and foam pieces separately.
Thanks. Sorry, I meant the AF3. I think the plate in that one sits near the foot.
Every time I’ve looked at buying a Puma running shoe on their website, the size 12.5 is sold out. Every single time I’ve looked.
Thats because several Puma models dont have a US 12.5… i went a half size up on my deviate nitro 2‘s. Was a bit too long, slight mid foot lock down issue, but no heel slippage
And then places like Dick’s don’t carry 12.5 lol
Should I buy the deviate nitro 2 ? Or the elite one , they are both on sale help please, should i go true to size ? Or go half size down as on the elite 3
If it helps you decide, I believe the deviate nitro 2 and the deviate nitro elite 2 are not interchangeable.
@ And do you recommend buying the deviate nitro 2? Or 3 , both at the same price on sale , help me please, I weiht 80 kg with 1.80 of height
Wonderful shoe.
Curious how the Endorphin series compares to the Nitros?
if I have to generalize and compare Endorphins (which I will define only as Endorphin Speed 4 and Endorphin Pro 4 and will exclude Endorphin Elite 1 and 2 and also exclude Endorphin Shift) to the Nitros (which I will define as Deviate Nitro Elite 3 and Deviate Nitro 3 and specifically disclaim Velocity Nitro 3 and Liberate Nitro 2), then I'd say the Endorphins are softer but less responsive. but it's kind of a difficult question to answer
Does it turn your ankle inwards like DN2 and VN2 do during running?
I can't answer that question as I did not experience turning ankles in the deviate nitro 2 or the velocity nitro 2
@@kofuzi Fair enough. Happened to me, Got injured im the end end then searched for similar experiences and found out I was not the only one, not even close. It 's a bummer cause i really Like those kicks.
Hi, I’m currently considering between Salomon S/LAB PHANTASM 2 and ON CLOUDMONSTER HYPER and I saw borh of your product review videos but can’t decide by myself. What would you go for?
One is a racing shoe and the other is more of a daily trainer. I would make the decision based on what kind of shoe you are looking for
@housinihou Another helpful way to decide is to try to find a brick and mortar store that has both in stock (Roadrunner Sports, eg) and actually try them on and test them yourself. It’s always better to see how a shoe works for your individual build and biomechanics in the end if you have that option. Or order both from Running Warehouse and return the one that doesn’t work as well for you. They have a nice return policy even after wearing them outside.
Will you be reviewing the hoka mach x2's????
I hope that Hoka will send a pair to review soon, but I am currently at quite a backlog of other shoes to review first. so either way, it may take a while
How are these for wide foot? I’m use to saucony speed 3 and endorphins
Hi Kofuzi; I love the Puma Velocity Nitro 3 as daily shoe. It is a very good shoe for heelstriking. The heel feels very stable and secure. Is it the same with the heel in this shoe? What would you say is the best race shoe for heelstrikers?
A1. yes, but relatively speaking for a racing shoe with racing foam
A2. I generally don't like to use the word best (because I don't know which criteria a person includes when evaluating best), but it would be a shoe worth trying
Kofuzi owns a VF3 😲
I have DNE2 in my standard size and they feel really tight, should I size up with DNE3? I plan to use them for my 1st marathon. Some feet swelling is expected as I am experiencing it from the 2-3,5 hour long runs.
I’d recommend trying to find a place where you can try them on. Version 3 fits differently than version 2, and depending on where and how they feel right, the differences may be enough.
If you absolutely cannot find a place to try them on, size up.
@@kofuzi thanks, these carbon shoes are usually missing in all the local shops, so I just ordered online - 1 size bigger without trying and I am hoping for the best :) if it will be slightly bigger, I can use proper thicker socks, which I couldn't do at all in the previous case
Would a good comparison be the Fast R is like the Alphafly and this more like the Vaporfly?
It’s perhaps analogous in the sense that it’s a brand that has two different marathon shoe options, like Saucony and ASICS
love this color but not available in my country so sad
Doesn't seem to actually be for sale.
looks like it's sold out at the moment
Thanks for review. Mike do you know if this colourway will be available again ? Or is it some special small sample? It's sold out everywhere 😂
Same problem here. It’s out of stock everywhere (at least in the US), including on Puma’s website… It’s like Puma doesn’t actually want people to bug the shoe!
I'd take the FastR2 as well as it looks crazy
It’s really fun
@@kofuzi eddbud just did a video on fun shoes and he's got a point: it's not about Strava segments or setting PB's, it's about it being fun and enjoying yourself.
These or the saucony endorphin pro 4 ?
we are at a point in the industry where there isn't an objective absolute answer anymore. a lot of the decision is going to come down to preferences and mechanics of the runner.
personally, I prefer the Deviate Nitro Elite 3 over the Endorphin Pro 4
I was running in both and think Pumas are more aggressive and fasters but pro4 are more stable specialy on the corners.
I ended up preferring the Endo Pro3 over v4. It’s not quite as soft (which for me is preferable in this case) and suits my quick turnover better. I stocked up on two late-date-manufactured pairs recently-highly discounted on Running Warehouse.
Whats the sizing like? I Run a US11 in nike would i go the same for these shoes?
Probably
Puma. Let me give you money please, keep things in stock for more than two seconds. Also Ko do you feel like the Deviate Elite is narrower than the Fastr? Or is it about the same
I'd say they are pretty similar. I have the same size in each
@@kofuzi thank you, have a good weekend
How can i get that colour
Isn't the Foam on thr Adios Pro line (Lightstrike Pro) also a TPU Foam? Its not PEBA i think.
Lighstrike Pro is not peba. The lighstrike pro in the Adios Pro Evo 1 is also different, although I’m not sure if it’s solely a processing difference or if it’s also a chemical difference
I am so stuck between getting these or the r2
What are you running in for Berlin?
tbd
Hi Kofusi, is the show narrow in the front? Did you go true to size?
the fit is better than the last two years of the Nitro Elite 3, but still a racer fit (I thought I said that in the review, but I'm now thinking that I might have cut it for brevity)
I went with the same size in all the shoes that I mentioned in this video
I will always support your RUclips channel Mr.Kofuzi.You're a humble person and you're so good to explain every shoes you review.Run safe and hope to see you soon.God bless always from your avid fan Peter Andrew Chua from the Philippines.❤❤❤
Yeoh kofuzi good day to you. Just want to know which one between the endorphin pro 4 and Puma DNE 3 is suitable for flat footed? Hope you can read and reply to my query . Thanks and more power to your channel 🫡
I’m not flat footed and am not sure which criteria would be relevant to help in answering this question
How about Puma MAGMAX ?
It is the shoe that was shown in the livestream clip at the end of this video. I received the shoe two days prior to this video getting published to RUclips
AMAZING 😍😍😍 BUT CAN YOU GIVE US THE WEBSITE FOR BUY I DONT FIND IT :/
puma.com
@@kofuzi On the puma site there are for sale the puma deviate nitro 3 but not the version that you show in this video 🤔🤔🤔 ( I want to buy exactly this version and this color that is in your video do you know where to buy it please ? )
Magmax?
That’s the shoe shown in the clip from the livestream. I just got it in for testing
@@kofuzi can't wait for review 😁🙏🏻
Kindly review PUMA MAGMax nitro
it's the shoe depicted in the livestream clip at the end of the video. it arrived to me two days before this video was published
Yo, what’s going on!!
yo Luis!
genuine qn, why do brands always under/over report the weight of their shoes? compared to when we actually weigh them.
Without speculating on what a brand may or may not be thinking when publishing a weight, I assume that there is likely variance in weight that randomly occurs due to variances that may exist in the production process
I’ve never tried sitting down a weighing 100 pairs of identical shoes before, but I would be shocked if they all weighed exactly the same
Would you use a show like this for daily miles? A bit more to the point- do you think it’s a good idea to train in plated hoes?
That’s two very different questions.
1) this is not great for daily training
2) I don’t have a problem with daily training in a shoe that has a plate, per se. it’s not as simple as “plate=bad”
@@kofuzi I tried to get both questions to go in the same direction: that I find plated shoes in general to provide a bit more assistance than the non-plated shoes and if that is the case, it might be safe to assume that you get more of a workout in the shoes without plates. More to the point, it takes more energy output to move down the road and therefore a runner increases leg strength with the necessary endurance following. Doctors of running seem to also postulate the same conclusion. As a show reviewer, with much more experience than I have, I was wondering if you noticed that general phenomenon. If I move more into specifics then I find that I get a better workout in shoes such as the SB2 and the NB Balos more than the B12 or the DN3. I just find myself basically fitter the next day when daily training in non-plated shoes. Not to say plate is bad, they help with extending my distance and over enthusiasm. Just wondering if you have noticed any of my aforementioned thoughts. Thanks
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Awesome Review!
Love the thicker tongue
"Certainly capable enough for Olympian to use on the biggest world stage". Cut the BS. Olympian use whatever brand they are paid for.
Hahahahhaha! This is such a grumpy take
Someone that successful is probably courted by multiple brands and aside from monetary factors, I expect they would factor in whose shoes work for them. A shoe that doesn’t suit their biomechanics would not be conducive to maximizing their success in major races. Grumpy take indeed.
That person's a Debbie downer. So negative. I feel bad for the rest of the people around them
Any chance of getting the Magmax review Ko? Also, any news on Adidas Adios Pro 4? Adidas taking forever with that one. 🥲
the clip from the livestream shown at the end of this video shows my unboxing of the Magmax. I just got it two days before this video was published