Back after the finale… my condolences to Marissa. Her breakup scene was sad to watch. I immediately wondered if her mom was somewhere in D.C that day with a sharp object on a testicle hunt. 😂😂
@@Canturok respectfully, you really can't go on a podcast after a show has been released & not expect a spoiler. Still, I'm sorry that you had that part of the story ruined, it does suck. In your defense (& what I just dissed you for), you really have to go out of your way to avoid spoilers. Peace - I think you'll still enjoy the show, I found it interesting (and a little bit surprising) 🙊
On the Ramses/Marissa convo. You can be apart of a country and still criticize it, how else would things improve! In ramses case, he might prefer the US over his home country, but also understands one huge reason his home country is worse is because of the impact of American imperialism. Imagine if someone set your house on fire and then told you you can live in the rubble or live in their nice house - same idea. Nick seems to get very defensive about people not liking the military, its weird.
Such a white man perspective lol, I think he was mad because Ramses seemed performative and whatever but from everything Ramses did in the show, his stance on the military was the only thing I respected.
Exactly, if you are unaware of your country’s actions and history, it shows. The US has organised military coups in so many countries (and openly admitted to many of these particularly in LATAM), destabilised, even invaded countries. The US contributes to, or sometimes is the primary reason, why people need to leave their countries
I am SO HAPPY SHE ADMITTED TO DOING THERAPY BEFORE AND AFTER this LIB fiasco 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 and she acknowledged being a “people pleaser” so much self growth!! She dodged a bullet with Ramses!
TYLER is the one who fought for custody of the first kid. And he was there for the birth of the twins and spent holidays with them and has photos with them with a “dad” shirt on. Him saying the kids don’t know what he looks like and deleting them from his life the moment he leaves for LIB (after seeing them before he left) is diabolical.
Yup and the twins were conceived naturally with no donor situation needed.. just plain old sex. They even have his last name. He could argue the first one was a donor situation but he did step up after the other wife left and was a father to him. Its crazy hes saying that. Ashley responded to a comment today and it seems like she's falling for wtv hes saying. I hope she didn't marry him! I feel bad for the kids who loved their dad and suddenly he's ghost.
@@alyssiab.Well, the reunion proved he was answering EXACTLY that question and that Ashley knew he was lying because they came up with the lie together.
@wolfsisterhowls yeah it's crazy. Netflix should delete those scenes. I heard they deleted the scene of that guy putting in eye drops to look like he was crying in a previous season.
@@alyssiab. Nah they need to leave the scene in for posterity. The fake tear guy never got married. Ashley and Tyler did. When this marriage goes exactly how it's supposed to, that scene and her admission at the reunion will be valuable reflection points for them both about the lengths they went to to deny and distance themselves from those kids and why they deserve everything they'll be getting.
I took a dbt class and made the same argument. How they put it to me was me the feelings to the situation. Like the point of view. Like we both sit at class at 12 and when you ask one person, they said class sucked and the other person said it was great. It does get confusing w blanket statements like my truth when talking about their feelings. That's your feelings. Not your truth. Two different words. But this is how it's being preached in counseling. Just saying..
@@hollyfabiani it's perspective of the truth, but not necessarily the truth. Feelings are not necessarily reality and can be affected by many things, especially in women.
Totally agree! ‘My truth’ is THE most privileged statement coming from all the women telling others to check their privileges. ‘Your truth’ serves you. Period
I’m starting to think Nick doesn’t understand what anti imperialism is. Why would Ramses state his position on war and intervention to say ‘Thank you for your service’ at the end. That would be a contradiction of everything he previously stated.
@@hmm4553he would according to her position from the pods and the first part of Marisa convo rg military ( before her contradicting herself totally). I adore Marisa, but she needs time to find herself.
Two things. First of all it’s really strange to me when someone can criticise so harshly a country’s army ( even regarding what they have done to the country he came from ) but then live happily in that country and still preferred to the one you came from. That’s crazy to me. Like you hate the US military soooo much and you think they are evil but you chose to come to America and live there and you prefer to live there then the country you were born in. And actually it might have to do with americas army because they have a strong army that keeps other countries from invading and hurting them and this way America gets to be as it is. Second at the end of the day every county needs an army. Even if it’s just for defence or “just in case” (not so long ago America was attacked at Pearl Harbor and if they didn’t attack back maybe America would be Germany today.) so like how can you HATE the army and that she served in the military but also except the protection you have because of this army?!? Anyway basically he is a big ass hypocrite and his morals don’t match his actions.
@@hilafredman-ganeles1341 Easy! You can be apart of a country and still criticize or else things wouldnt ever improve! In ramses case, he might prefer the US over his home country, but also understands one huge reason his home country is worse is because of the impact of American imperialism. Imagine if someone set your house on fire and then told you you can live in the rubble or live in their nice house - same idea. On your second half, duh every country needs an army, its what the country does with the army that makes the difference.
They don’t hate imperialism enough for me or realize how devastating it actually is. I like Marissa but Ramses didn’t say enough in my opinion. I would have been meaner😕
I think Natalie and Nick need to go actually watch the podcasts in their entirety and listen to what those people in Tyler’s life had to say before commenting because as married parents I think their opinion would be different. Tyler is the only person that invited everyone’s (the internet, blogs & trolls alike) opinions into his life, and his and Ashley’s relationship by lying about his 3 children. This is something we all know you as a couple would never do! Also Marissa is so beautiful inside and out love her!
No, Tyler hasn't invite anyone, he is on a TV show, whereas the lesbian couple - so messy, exposing intimate details and irrelevant stories ( especially Daeshon), prioritizing their 5min of fame in the reality world over the emotional and mental well being of their own children !
@@ivapetrovska9986 I mean can we blame her though if Tyler did abandon those kids? He literally LIED to Ashley saying they dk what he looks like but theres so many pics of them together. Also, Ashley deserves to know, If they are married she may be liable to pay his child support. Im thinking he and Ashley got married thats why he ghosted the kids
Marissa is def implying in her response that Hannah has not shown growth since the season which is a suspicion I have based on her interviews and social media activity. She's aware she came off harshly and acknowledges it with laughter in interviews but doesn't seem like she's had any personal growth, otherwise you would be interacting with a lot more humility.
I think she’s saying she knew Hannah only as a friend so how can she say if she’s changed when it comes to a relationship when she isn’t the one in one with her . I mean even Hannah’s family doesn’t speak that highly of her
I was so pleased with how frank Marissa was about Hannah. The women on this show often close ranks as a group around the worst behaved woman, like with Zanab, and it’s so annoying.
Saying your kids dont know what you look like but then having photos of him hanging out with them is diabolical...idk where we can be confused about that?!?!?!
Bohdan has sexually assaulted multiple women prior to LIB and he has been reported to the producers by multiple people since it came out he was a cast member. Hoping all that gets aired, but I have the receipts.
Your hoping Ashley and Tyler are together? Have you not heard from the Mother of the children herself? First clue: Ashley asked Tyler if the kids knew what he looked like. He said i don't think so. Have you seen tbe pictures (alot) of Tyler and the kids together?!?
Interesting to hear Natalie talk about how Hannah shouldn’t talk bad about her partner… when I feel like she does a similar (albeit less severe) thing to Nick. She’s gotten better over the last few weeks, but there were a few episodes that were painful to listen to because of all the criticisms and icks Natalie expressed
This LIB season has been full of spoilers- I’m 😤. Don’t know why Marrissa has kind of confirmed she’s no longer with Ramses! What’s the point of watching the rest
They need to drop all the episodes at once and what’s the point of waiting a year anyway?? I think it’s so weird for the contestants to move on and be in other relationships and change (or not) as people just to experience it all again a year later with millions of people as an audience
well nick manipulated her into "giving it away" a bit with his questioning. He just would say "regardless of your current relationship status" and then ask a question that, in answering it, gives everything away. At the very end he got her. smh...see! She is easily manipulated
Unrelated: I am SOOOOO HAPPY to see nick in this video back in his old original style of clothes with converse etc, those boots and new vibe were killing me. I was hardcore missing the chucks, the socks, the t shirts, etc, omg it’s the best and suits him. Just my opinion lol.
Nick continues to be a dog with a bone with his opinions. he’s states it once, cool. and then whenever somebody says something different, he MUST restate it 3 times 🙃
The actual court papers where he petioned for parental rights for his son? His name on the twins birth certificates. The treasure trove of pictures where he refers to his children? He's a deadbeat that dropped his kids to pursue Ashley. @ivapetrovska9986
@@ivapetrovska9986would the evidence not be photos online with his children? Would that not prove he was lying when he said he was only a perm donor, and the children did not know what he looked like ????
@@ivapetrovska9986there are court documents for the child support as well as last name change for the twins (they had his last name). Birth certificates, custody case for the first kid, videos and photos... there's actually a lot.
I love that you gave Marissa your opinion and did not turn it off as soon as she came on. She is lovely by the way . I cross my fingers that she did not marry that guy ... BUT hope for her happiness :)
As much as I feel for Marissa and am not team Ramses , we cannot act like Marissa’s mom’s behaviour was ok. Nick please do better with the way you brush off behaviour like this
That breakup scene was hard to watch and almost felt like something too intimate to see. I can appreciate her vulnerability. Glad she didnt have to suffer for 8 years to break up.
Lov-videos! My five-year relationship came to an end a month ago. The love of my life chose to leave, and I can't stop thinking about him; I love him so deeply. I've done everything I can to win him back, but nothing seems to work. I'm feeling frustrated and can't imagine my life with anyone else. Despite my efforts to move on, I just can't shake the thoughts of him. I don’t know why I’m sharing this, but I really miss him!
Its tough to let go of someone you care about. I can relate, my 12year relationship also ended, and I struggled to move on. I tried everything to get him back, even seeking help from a spiritual counselor who ultimately helped me reconnect with him*
This is so annoying. She makes it obvious theyre not together. First big giveaway is she says she wouldnt know how he feels about a scene now that it's aired. Well if you're together..why not? And she keeps saying she didnt realize at the time she wasnt receiving what she was giving. Ok clearly not together. Just do the interviews after the reunion. I dont avoid the interviews bc i still want to watch them but i dont like watching them when they arent relevant anymore.
@@ChoiceDesignsPro I meant this toward the podcast, but now that you bring it up, I do think cast members should wait til after the reunion to do interviews
Nick and his wife was so unlikeable. ramses has every right to judge the military and to throw in his face that he “lives in this country” is ridiculous considering that his family is from a country that has directly been affected by the US military. also kissing marissa’s moms ass when she called her daughter a bitch on national television is very telling. saying that the mother of tyler’s kids is chasing clout when HE was the one that was denying his children is crazy
I also disagree …. Not saying he shouldn’t have an opinion or view point but his is hypocritical and a typical response (from him) as a “woke millennial” who didn’t sacrifice his life or fight for his country in order to live freely as he does today. The least he could show is respect for that as he chose a partner who has done that with her life. Think the way you do fine but why do you feel you deserve her as well? It would be a big NO for me and fingers crossed it is for her too. She deserves the BEST!
I love how nick asks Hannah what Temperature to put the water on, like low or high heat, and she just starts going off saying “I dk just boil the water.” Hey it took me forever to learn to be a semi decent cook. That’s not an easy thing to do especially if you didn’t grow up learning nor have the desire to really learn. I mean I know I’m not the only one or door dash wouldn’t be a thing. And Hannah was unemployed so she could have done all the cooking and cleaning
It made me laugh when she said they weren’t on the same level financially. He had no debt, she came into the relationship with 50K in debt. He has a job and she has no income, yet she felt financially superior. 🤔
Both mom's of Tyler's kids have come out at this point. I haven't been able to watch their scenes all seasons. I'm not understanding why anyone would give him a pass.
1:17:06 Hannah whole point with the friends was to get at him, because during the meeting with the family she said “are yall not gonna drill him?!” She was upset the family wasn’t mean to them
Basically Ramses was being rude to her while she was on her period because of her PMS. It was kind of confusing but it seemed like she didn’t want to be intimate with him and he was mad. She also has hormonal issues and because of that, she doesn’t want to take birth control, but he refuses to wear a condom. So he told her if she gets pregnant it’ll be totally on her.
I changed my first cell phone number. Had it forEVER. It was MY number lol and once I changed it, 4 years later, my old number called me. Mind boggling still to this day 🤯
Nick, don't be jealous… as a mother of 2 grown daughters…. They generally will be into mom more until middle school - then they need to separate- if you've been a good dad- shell be all about dad through highschool!
Can someone pls breakdown the reasons everyone hates Jenn's bf Ryan? I havent seen him do anything offputting this season - only seen him support Jenn. But I also watch while on my phone lol. pls enlighten me!
lol and Marissa ends the conversation with....Well...I want to apologize to his family for my mom making fun of his "looks" (She simply poked fun at his played out style,,,not his actual looks). This seems to me to prove she didnt grow at all. She is still the same person. She is a beautiful person...but a person whom this will happen to again, because she didnt learn any lessons.
It’s hilarious watching Nick speak about not getting a birthday or Christmas gift for Natalie when they first started dating (he would’ve been 40 y/o at the time) then go straight into ripping apart Ramses for being to old to be making mistakes at age 35. Like cmon dude lol
I don’t really like the guy because him and the bs he pulled but the only part i agree with him is the military thing the army did a lot of fk up shit it’s kind of hard to thank people that unlived and destroy other countries
I don’t think the issue with Ramses was that he was clueless about women and the emotional and physical impact of our cycles….. I think it was an issue of him being incredibly immature and self centered as a human being….. just my thoughts. I don’t think he’s a clueless dumbass I think he is a “me me me” type of person who needs to grow up.
Yes thank you! It is a challenge to NOT give tour kids an iPad or screen time unnecessarily. Every parent CAN do it they just need to follow through with the challenge every day. Not impossible. Signed a mom with 4 kids that are 7yo and younger.
Is it possible Katie and Hannah have been best friends since before the show? They recruit in a specific area so maybe they filled out their applications together
Ozempic is terrible for you there’s several class actions where it’s really injuring people. It does matter with people who you care about and don’t want to have permanent intestinal or retinal damage.
Nick, I wouldn’t be nosey and google my best friends partner. I think that’s crazy to even engage in that. It’s not like Jen is a teenager. When a grown adult makes a decision to be with someone, that’s their business and to do a background check is ridiculous. There’s no other way to look at it. Also, Jen and Tamara are not best friends so that’s even creepier. Tamara needs to worry about her weird marriage to Eddie. That man doesn’t even act like he is into her. Also Jim Belino was coerced by Elizabeth to go out because she wanted to put her wine in his new restaurant. You people need to do better research. He was highly upset that she took a photo and sent it to TMZ to imply that they were dating so she could trend in the media. The dinner meeting was set up as a business dinner through a mutual friend of theirs and he was really upset that she spun the narrative.
What will you do when she is actually older and in front of you crying because she feels lonely not having a phone because everyone has one and they look at her like shes a weirdo for not having a phone... I know you say i hope to raise her not to be that way but its easier said than done.
I love Tamra! Shes messy asf but she also makes me laugh the most and is the most entertaining. She makes great TV and I will always support her on rhoc. The show was so boring without her!!
Men are allowed to break up with women. I don’t get how people villainize men so vehemently for simply wanting something different. If a woman were to break it off with a man the response would be empathic. I think public opinion sometimes isn’t very progressive. Also think the male on the podcast is being a little hypocritical alongside mentioning Ramses is good looking, interesting pov that seems a little bit like salty mean girl.
I think it’s the men that need to be reminded of this. It was very obvious that Ramses didn’t want to be the one to breakup with Marissa. Even his first initial excuse for the break-up was “I don’t want to hurt you” as if that was his decision to make and not her risk to take. Instead of just telling her “hey, I actually don’t think this is the relationship I want to be married in” he gave her really weak excuses to make himself look like he was sacrificing himself for her. Which is incredibly confusing for the person on the other end of it because then they think THEY just need to change something because their partner actually DOES want to be with them. In my experience, it’s the men who think they can’t break up in relationship and drag people on way longer than they should.
So she wasn't given a diagnosis, because a therapist can't give tou that diagnosis and one test also can't diagnose it. It takes more than that. She was irresponsible with her statement
if youre going to put liam payne if the youtube title tag then spend more time talking about him and it came across brushed over and like oh on to the next story there have been tributees and memorials all over the world that's significant no one cares about these other topics i promise you if it was harry styles they would have been like heart broken
I feel so sorry for Marissa she just couldn’t see he’s a weirdo and probably bi and would end up leaving her for a dude in a few years, she dodged a bullet I would of loved her
Someone needs to explain to Nick Viall what "judging" really means cause he doesn't seem to understand and is often hypocritical. Hannah is totally disrespectful to Nicky D and humiliates him pretty much in every scene. She is not honest at all. She lies when she says she loves him. Women can't love someone they don't respect and moreover make an effort to disrespect constantly. Kinda like how Natalie disrespects Nick on his own podcast. The criticism towards Ramses that he doesn't understand women or women's periods is absurd. Most women (especially those on LIB) do not understand or know men, nor do they even make an effort to do so. The fact this is criticized it shows how much neglect there is to know, understand or educate women about men. It shows that women's needs are always placed ahead of men's. Also, women don't want to be judged but are happy to judge men all the time. Everything about Marissa and her mom is major red flags.
lmaooooo false!! Women make way more of an effort to understand men than vice versa and they understand more about people in general than men do. Just as a generalization ...individuals vary greatly of course. I think Nick is vary on point in this video and gets women
@@ChoiceDesignsPro Most women absolutely do not understand or know men and don't make an effort to do so. The proof is evident every time women speak about men. Yes, there are a few exceptions and some women have some understanding of men. Either because they have had a good father present or another man has taken the time to teach them and they have made an effort to listen/learn. As for Nick, he's pandering to his mostly female audience. He's a fool who lets his wife disrespect him on his own podcast.
I was personally disgusted that Ramses was hating on people who serve our country. No it isn’t perfect but is still your country. I would have ditched his ass then
So good to hear about baby "River" starting to walk . Baby shoes & girl dresses ! Making yourself available or you are said for. You are Loved because you are Loveable . Stereotyped is dramatic arts . Real life when you can't do better than each other. Is over domineering in a man or and a woman. Self satisfaction is completing a school of arts & living a lifestyle. When you find fault but not yours. Ethnics & culture are important in your household & religion.
Back after the finale… my condolences to Marissa. Her breakup scene was sad to watch. I immediately wondered if her mom was somewhere in D.C that day with a sharp object on a testicle hunt. 😂😂
thanks for the spoiler! good job.
@@Canturok respectfully, you really can't go on a podcast after a show has been released & not expect a spoiler.
Still, I'm sorry that you had that part of the story ruined, it does suck.
In your defense (& what I just dissed you for), you really have to go out of your way to avoid spoilers.
Peace - I think you'll still enjoy the show, I found it interesting (and a little bit surprising) 🙊
hahhahaha same as soon as she was on the phone with her i was like OUUUUU RAMSES GONNA GET ITTT
On the Ramses/Marissa convo. You can be apart of a country and still criticize it, how else would things improve! In ramses case, he might prefer the US over his home country, but also understands one huge reason his home country is worse is because of the impact of American imperialism. Imagine if someone set your house on fire and then told you you can live in the rubble or live in their nice house - same idea. Nick seems to get very defensive about people not liking the military, its weird.
Such a white man perspective lol, I think he was mad because Ramses seemed performative and whatever but from everything Ramses did in the show, his stance on the military was the only thing I respected.
Exactly, if you are unaware of your country’s actions and history, it shows. The US has organised military coups in so many countries (and openly admitted to many of these particularly in LATAM), destabilised, even invaded countries. The US contributes to, or sometimes is the primary reason, why people need to leave their countries
Exactly
I am SO HAPPY SHE ADMITTED TO DOING THERAPY BEFORE AND AFTER this LIB fiasco 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 and she acknowledged being a “people pleaser” so much self growth!! She dodged a bullet with Ramses!
TYLER is the one who fought for custody of the first kid. And he was there for the birth of the twins and spent holidays with them and has photos with them with a “dad” shirt on. Him saying the kids don’t know what he looks like and deleting them from his life the moment he leaves for LIB (after seeing them before he left) is diabolical.
Yup and the twins were conceived naturally with no donor situation needed.. just plain old sex. They even have his last name. He could argue the first one was a donor situation but he did step up after the other wife left and was a father to him. Its crazy hes saying that. Ashley responded to a comment today and it seems like she's falling for wtv hes saying. I hope she didn't marry him! I feel bad for the kids who loved their dad and suddenly he's ghost.
Rewatch the scene, he's answering a different question. Her lips arent moving, it's a voice over
@@alyssiab.Well, the reunion proved he was answering EXACTLY that question and that Ashley knew he was lying because they came up with the lie together.
@wolfsisterhowls yeah it's crazy. Netflix should delete those scenes. I heard they deleted the scene of that guy putting in eye drops to look like he was crying in a previous season.
@@alyssiab. Nah they need to leave the scene in for posterity. The fake tear guy never got married. Ashley and Tyler did. When this marriage goes exactly how it's supposed to, that scene and her admission at the reunion will be valuable reflection points for them both about the lengths they went to to deny and distance themselves from those kids and why they deserve everything they'll be getting.
Hannah posted a TikTok on how to boil water, she hasn’t learned lol
I hate the term "her truth" or "my truth". There's only ever one truth ..the truth. There can be many point of views but only one truth.
100% agree, only one truth.
I took a dbt class and made the same argument. How they put it to me was me the feelings to the situation. Like the point of view. Like we both sit at class at 12 and when you ask one person, they said class sucked and the other person said it was great. It does get confusing w blanket statements like my truth when talking about their feelings. That's your feelings. Not your truth. Two different words. But this is how it's being preached in counseling. Just saying..
@@hollyfabiani it's perspective of the truth, but not necessarily the truth. Feelings are not necessarily reality and can be affected by many things, especially in women.
Well said.
Totally agree! ‘My truth’ is THE most privileged statement coming from all the women telling others to check their privileges. ‘Your truth’ serves you. Period
LOVE Marissa so much. She deserves so many beautiful things in life. She has such a beautiful heart 🤍
I’m starting to think Nick doesn’t understand what anti imperialism is.
Why would Ramses state his position on war and intervention to say ‘Thank you for your service’ at the end. That would be a contradiction of everything he previously stated.
if he was sooooo against the US’s imperialism, he should’ve never proposed to an ex-military person.
@@hmm4553he would according to her position from the pods and the first part of Marisa convo rg military ( before her contradicting herself totally).
I adore Marisa, but she needs time to find herself.
Two things. First of all it’s really strange to me when someone can criticise so harshly a country’s army ( even regarding what they have done to the country he came from ) but then live happily in that country and still preferred to the one you came from. That’s crazy to me. Like you hate the US military soooo much and you think they are evil but you chose to come to America and live there and you prefer to live there then the country you were born in. And actually it might have to do with americas army because they have a strong army that keeps other countries from invading and hurting them and this way America gets to be as it is. Second at the end of the day every county needs an army. Even if it’s just for defence or “just in case” (not so long ago America was attacked at Pearl Harbor and if they didn’t attack back maybe America would be Germany today.) so like how can you HATE the army and that she served in the military but also except the protection you have because of this army?!? Anyway basically he is a big ass hypocrite and his morals don’t match his actions.
@@hilafredman-ganeles1341 Easy! You can be apart of a country and still criticize or else things wouldnt ever improve! In ramses case, he might prefer the US over his home country, but also understands one huge reason his home country is worse is because of the impact of American imperialism. Imagine if someone set your house on fire and then told you you can live in the rubble or live in their nice house - same idea. On your second half, duh every country needs an army, its what the country does with the army that makes the difference.
They don’t hate imperialism enough for me or realize how devastating it actually is. I like Marissa but Ramses didn’t say enough in my opinion. I would have been meaner😕
“To criticize one’s country is an act of patriotism” - Senator William Fulbright
I love how they discussed the definition of a best friend for 3-5 minutes.
😂😂😂
I think Natalie and Nick need to go actually watch the podcasts in their entirety and listen to what those people in Tyler’s life had to say before commenting because as married parents I think their opinion would be different. Tyler is the only person that invited everyone’s (the internet, blogs & trolls alike) opinions into his life, and his and Ashley’s relationship by lying about his 3 children. This is something we all know you as a couple would never do! Also Marissa is so beautiful inside and out love her!
No, Tyler hasn't invite anyone, he is on a TV show, whereas the lesbian couple - so messy, exposing intimate details and irrelevant stories ( especially Daeshon), prioritizing their 5min of fame in the reality world over the emotional and mental well being of their own children !
@@ivapetrovska9986 I mean can we blame her though if Tyler did abandon those kids? He literally LIED to Ashley saying they dk what he looks like but theres so many pics of them together. Also, Ashley deserves to know, If they are married she may be liable to pay his child support. Im thinking he and Ashley got married thats why he ghosted the kids
Marissa is def implying in her response that Hannah has not shown growth since the season which is a suspicion I have based on her interviews and social media activity. She's aware she came off harshly and acknowledges it with laughter in interviews but doesn't seem like she's had any personal growth, otherwise you would be interacting with a lot more humility.
I think she’s saying she knew Hannah only as a friend so how can she say if she’s changed when it comes to a relationship when she isn’t the one in one with her .
I mean even Hannah’s family doesn’t speak that highly of her
@@ariellewht - couldnt help but notice Marissa used past tense about her relationship with Hannah, "we WERE friends. we WERE close in the pods."
Did you notice that Marissa didnt grow or seem to 'get' any of it really?
Exactly. Idk they they decided to give this abuser a platform
I was so pleased with how frank Marissa was about Hannah. The women on this show often close ranks as a group around the worst behaved woman, like with Zanab, and it’s so annoying.
Saying your kids dont know what you look like but then having photos of him hanging out with them is diabolical...idk where we can be confused about that?!?!?!
Bohdan has sexually assaulted multiple women prior to LIB and he has been reported to the producers by multiple people since it came out he was a cast member. Hoping all that gets aired, but I have the receipts.
OH WOW ....
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bruh, lets throw the whole season into the trash atp
Your hoping Ashley and Tyler are together? Have you not heard from the Mother of the children herself? First clue: Ashley asked Tyler if the kids knew what he looked like. He said i don't think so. Have you seen tbe pictures (alot) of Tyler and the kids together?!?
it looks like they(the viall files) doesnt care about the receipts and the facts this time.
Yeah nick said he has seen everything and doesn’t buy it smfh
Right?If Tyler can lie that big...twice?? He has no limits.
This is where I have to drop off because Tyler is the problem. I’m sorry I don’t believe in them.
Interesting to hear Natalie talk about how Hannah shouldn’t talk bad about her partner… when I feel like she does a similar (albeit less severe) thing to Nick. She’s gotten better over the last few weeks, but there were a few episodes that were painful to listen to because of all the criticisms and icks Natalie expressed
This LIB season has been full of spoilers- I’m 😤. Don’t know why Marrissa has kind of confirmed she’s no longer with Ramses! What’s the point of watching the rest
They could solve this by not having any guests on till the LIB season ends. Not sure why they don’t do this 🤷🏻♀️
@@vickinathan8777 it’s bloody annoying!!! Like why 😣
Every season has these same spoilers bc they post, like comments, and give interviews that give insinuations.
They need to drop all the episodes at once and what’s the point of waiting a year anyway?? I think it’s so weird for the contestants to move on and be in other relationships and change (or not) as people just to experience it all again a year later with millions of people as an audience
well nick manipulated her into "giving it away" a bit with his questioning. He just would say "regardless of your current relationship status" and then ask a question that, in answering it, gives everything away. At the very end he got her. smh...see! She is easily manipulated
Marissa is an amazing person and she deserves a similar kind which I'm sure the universe will give her someday.
100% agree with nick on Ramses POV
Unrelated: I am SOOOOO HAPPY to see nick in this video back in his old original style of clothes with converse etc, those boots and new vibe were killing me. I was hardcore missing the chucks, the socks, the t shirts, etc, omg it’s the best and suits him. Just my opinion lol.
He's goals for sure
Yes!
Nick continues to be a dog with a bone with his opinions. he’s states it once, cool. and then whenever somebody says something different, he MUST restate it 3 times 🙃
Oh stop
Marrisa's mom was disrespectful. No excuses please.
But was she wrong? She sussed him out even if she was uncouth
Wow your take on Tyler considering the evidence is crazy. Especially as he chose to lie and could have easily said in the pods I have children
Evidence 😂
I can see you're an attorney of law.
What evidence ?! 😂
The actual court papers where he petioned for parental rights for his son? His name on the twins birth certificates. The treasure trove of pictures where he refers to his children? He's a deadbeat that dropped his kids to pursue Ashley. @ivapetrovska9986
@@ivapetrovska9986would the evidence not be photos online with his children? Would that not prove he was lying when he said he was only a perm donor, and the children did not know what he looked like ????
@@ivapetrovska9986he’s ordered to pay child support. That means he was not a sperm donor. He is legally and biologically their father. Y’all are wild.
@@ivapetrovska9986there are court documents for the child support as well as last name change for the twins (they had his last name). Birth certificates, custody case for the first kid, videos and photos... there's actually a lot.
Okay I guess Marissa didn’t end up getting married 😂
I love that you gave Marissa your opinion and did not turn it off as soon as she came on. She is lovely by the way . I cross my fingers that she did not marry that guy ... BUT hope for her happiness :)
As much as I feel for Marissa and am not team Ramses , we cannot act like Marissa’s mom’s behaviour was ok. Nick please do better with the way you brush off behaviour like this
That breakup scene was hard to watch and almost felt like something too intimate to see. I can appreciate her vulnerability. Glad she didnt have to suffer for 8 years to break up.
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After watching the reunion we know that hannah wont unfortunately follow through with it
The hotel did call 911 for Liam Payne before he died. They’ve released the call now. It’s awful that help didn’t get there in time.
Please interview Tyler again. You interviewed him before all the evidence was revealed. He’s a deadbeat. Plz interview him and Ashley
This is so annoying. She makes it obvious theyre not together. First big giveaway is she says she wouldnt know how he feels about a scene now that it's aired. Well if you're together..why not? And she keeps saying she didnt realize at the time she wasnt receiving what she was giving. Ok clearly not together. Just do the interviews after the reunion. I dont avoid the interviews bc i still want to watch them but i dont like watching them when they arent relevant anymore.
(not her fault!)
@@ChoiceDesignsPro I meant this toward the podcast, but now that you bring it up, I do think cast members should wait til after the reunion to do interviews
I LOVE SECRET LIFE. IT WAS ICONICCCC. SECRET LIFE, PLL, THE FOSTERS, TWISTED, THEY WERE ALL ON ABC FAMILY iconic
Nick and his wife was so unlikeable. ramses has every right to judge the military and to throw in his face that he “lives in this country” is ridiculous considering that his family is from a country that has directly been affected by the US military. also kissing marissa’s moms ass when she called her daughter a bitch on national television is very telling. saying that the mother of tyler’s kids is chasing clout when HE was the one that was denying his children is crazy
Disagree... the freedoms he enjoys in the country he is residing is because of those who fought for it... support those folks or get out.. amen..
@@kellystewart9291shut up kelly
@@user789y I feel like Marrissa kinda threw Ramses under the bus in this interview. She contradicts herself so much and it’s extremely annoying.
There is cause and effect. He is here, because you all went there. @@kellystewart9291
I also disagree …. Not saying he shouldn’t have an opinion or view point but his is hypocritical and a typical response (from him) as a “woke millennial” who didn’t sacrifice his life or fight for his country in order to live freely as he does today. The least he could show is respect for that as he chose a partner who has done that with her life. Think the way you do fine but why do you feel you deserve her as well? It would be a big NO for me and fingers crossed it is for her too. She deserves the BEST!
I love how nick asks Hannah what Temperature to put the water on, like low or high heat, and she just starts going off saying “I dk just boil the water.”
Hey it took me forever to learn to be a semi decent cook. That’s not an easy thing to do especially if you didn’t grow up learning nor have the desire to really learn. I mean I know I’m not the only one or door dash wouldn’t be a thing.
And Hannah was unemployed so she could have done all the cooking and cleaning
It made me laugh when she said they weren’t on the same level financially. He had no debt, she came into the relationship with 50K in debt. He has a job and she has no income, yet she felt financially superior.
🤔
We love her joy and her strong 💪 mom! Ramses lost not her 😊
“You want me to go to the grocery store and pick up what” LMAOOO AHAHAHAHAH
Both mom's of Tyler's kids have come out at this point. I haven't been able to watch their scenes all seasons. I'm not understanding why anyone would give him a pass.
“I was thinking Kris Jenner” THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING TOO. That would be iconic tooo
History absolutely does not say that the one who stays silent is probably telling the truth -_- that's a terrible take.
Hannah was never inlove with Nick...she was disappointed when she saw him first...still no excuse for her behavior
Doing these interviews before the series is over is POINTLESS. They obviously can’t be fully open. Why are we doing this guys?
yea, if you were smart, you wouldn't watch. Even after the show ends, they still have contracts that say they can't speak.
@@noemail-cv3djyeahhhhhh they could have waited two days for a really great interview
1:17:06 Hannah whole point with the friends was to get at him, because during the meeting with the family she said “are yall not gonna drill him?!” She was upset the family wasn’t mean to them
“I know the second that I say he’s a piece of shit you’re gonna say don’t say that that’s my man” LMAOOO AHAHAH
What was the period convo? Did I miss something?
Basically Ramses was being rude to her while she was on her period because of her PMS. It was kind of confusing but it seemed like she didn’t want to be intimate with him and he was mad. She also has hormonal issues and because of that, she doesn’t want to take birth control, but he refuses to wear a condom. So he told her if she gets pregnant it’ll be totally on her.
Ramses was by far the worst of the season. Way worse than Hannah. Nick nailed why.
I changed my first cell phone number. Had it forEVER. It was MY number lol and once I changed it, 4 years later, my old number called me. Mind boggling still to this day 🤯
Poor marrissa she needs to learn how to speak up 😢😢😢 she seems so sweeeettt
Nick, don't be jealous… as a mother of 2 grown daughters…. They generally will be into mom more until middle school - then they need to separate- if you've been a good dad- shell be all about dad through highschool!
Why was Ramses wearing a black thong in that last episode?? That freakwd me out!! Is he bi???🙄
The pasta in the fridge though.... Italians buy fresh pasta that is kept in the fridge
he, nor hannah, are Italian 😂 most people buy it in a box and put it in the pantry/cabinet
Oh I thought he said he was italian@@jaydasym
@@clara6012 I’ve heard on socials his mom is Cuban, I’m not sure what else he’s mixed with though
Natalie’s comment about removing her period lmao 😂
And Tuesday can now begin the video has dropped❤
Re RHOC i dont think its that they have a lack of empathy for Shannon, they're all genuinely scared of Tamrat.
Can someone pls breakdown the reasons everyone hates Jenn's bf Ryan? I havent seen him do anything offputting this season - only seen him support Jenn. But I also watch while on my phone lol. pls enlighten me!
lol and Marissa ends the conversation with....Well...I want to apologize to his family for my mom making fun of his "looks" (She simply poked fun at his played out style,,,not his actual looks). This seems to me to prove she didnt grow at all. She is still the same person. She is a beautiful person...but a person whom this will happen to again, because she didnt learn any lessons.
It’s hilarious watching Nick speak about not getting a birthday or Christmas gift for Natalie when they first started dating (he would’ve been 40 y/o at the time) then go straight into ripping apart Ramses for being to old to be making mistakes at age 35. Like cmon dude lol
Marissa or Taylor are the my favorite girls this year looks wise. Very very gorgeous is Marissa!
I don’t really like the guy because him and the bs he pulled but the only part i agree with him is the military thing the army did a lot of fk up shit it’s kind of hard to thank people that unlived and destroy other countries
I don’t think the issue with Ramses was that he was clueless about women and the emotional and physical impact of our cycles….. I think it was an issue of him being incredibly immature and self centered as a human being….. just my thoughts. I don’t think he’s a clueless dumbass I think he is a “me me me” type of person who needs to grow up.
Yes thank you! It is a challenge to NOT give tour kids an iPad or screen time unnecessarily. Every parent CAN do it they just need to follow through with the challenge every day. Not impossible. Signed a mom with 4 kids that are 7yo and younger.
Ya'll should watch Tell Me Lies, holy cow its next level drama entertainment. It's not reality but neither is Nobody wants this. Check it out!
the jumpscare of seeing Mary’s face makeup😭
Love Adam Brody. Love Jennifer’s body, love Seth cohen soooo iconiccc
Love the army girl and her mother as well
Googling someone is so different than a background check performed by a real estate agent which is actually illegal. Like so illegal.
Have they talked about LIB Habibi? I would LOVE to see their take on it
I think nick would be too Judgy and disrespectful towards the culture unfortunately. But LIB habibi was wayyy better than the US version.
Is it possible Katie and Hannah have been best friends since before the show? They recruit in a specific area so maybe they filled out their applications together
Ozempic is terrible for you there’s several class actions where it’s really injuring people. It does matter with people who you care about and don’t want to have permanent intestinal or retinal damage.
Nick, I wouldn’t be nosey and google my best friends partner. I think that’s crazy to even engage in that. It’s not like Jen is a teenager. When a grown adult makes a decision to be with someone, that’s their business and to do a background check is ridiculous. There’s no other way to look at it. Also, Jen and Tamara are not best friends so that’s even creepier. Tamara needs to worry about her weird marriage to Eddie. That man doesn’t even act like he is into her.
Also Jim Belino was coerced by Elizabeth to go out because she wanted to put her wine in his new restaurant. You people need to do better research. He was highly upset that she took a photo and sent it to TMZ to imply that they were dating so she could trend in the media. The dinner meeting was set up as a business dinner through a mutual friend of theirs and he was really upset that she spun the narrative.
Natalie for PTA President 🎉
What will you do when she is actually older and in front of you crying because she feels lonely not having a phone because everyone has one and they look at her like shes a weirdo for not having a phone... I know you say i hope to raise her not to be that way but its easier said than done.
Please ask him this Justin
This was the worst season for me, boring & couples were very uninteresting! Hoping for a better S8
The Osmonds are in fact Mormon Royals and in some circles have been treated as such
Looking at just Justin and Natalie… The microphone was covering his chin… And I was thinking boy Justin looks awfully pale today.. I hope he’s OK😂
Is it me or i think Natalie recently started to talk to Nick a little condescending …i mean love them both i just noticed the difference a little
I know they are talking about LIB but I hope Nicole from Love Island watched back the reunion and podcast and realize how bad she can across.
I agree about the Tyler & Ashley situation, and I' m thinking exactly the same !
I love Tamra! Shes messy asf but she also makes me laugh the most and is the most entertaining. She makes great TV and I will always support her on rhoc. The show was so boring without her!!
Notice how Love is blind cast only does interviews with this same panel of white men.. very odd
Huh?
I enjoyed this and I like the tea. But this clearly gives away she did not marry him. So spoiler.
Men are allowed to break up with women. I don’t get how people villainize men so vehemently for simply wanting something different. If a woman were to break it off with a man the response would be empathic. I think public opinion sometimes isn’t very progressive.
Also think the male on the podcast is being a little hypocritical alongside mentioning Ramses is good looking, interesting pov that seems a little bit like salty mean girl.
I think it’s the men that need to be reminded of this. It was very obvious that Ramses didn’t want to be the one to breakup with Marissa. Even his first initial excuse for the break-up was “I don’t want to hurt you” as if that was his decision to make and not her risk to take. Instead of just telling her “hey, I actually don’t think this is the relationship I want to be married in” he gave her really weak excuses to make himself look like he was sacrificing himself for her. Which is incredibly confusing for the person on the other end of it because then they think THEY just need to change something because their partner actually DOES want to be with them. In my experience, it’s the men who think they can’t break up in relationship and drag people on way longer than they should.
So she wasn't given a diagnosis, because a therapist can't give tou that diagnosis and one test also can't diagnose it. It takes more than that. She was irresponsible with her statement
if youre going to put liam payne if the youtube title tag then spend more time talking about him and it came across brushed over and like oh on to the next story there have been tributees and memorials all over the world that's significant no one cares about these other topics i promise you if it was harry styles they would have been like heart broken
1:45:27 omg I think I'm an Hannah. Help !!
“Tom who?” LMAOOOO AHAHAHAHAH
I don’t like the Spanish guy he’s a fake
1:27:13 called it. phoney nice guy.
I feel so sorry for Marissa she just couldn’t see he’s a weirdo and probably bi and would end up leaving her for a dude in a few years, she dodged a bullet I would of loved her
CLEEEARLY....: ths iz a 'stooopyd' 'show'. FAIL!
Spoken like a true industry plant guys
Another boring episode 😅😂
Someone needs to explain to Nick Viall what "judging" really means cause he doesn't seem to understand and is often hypocritical.
Hannah is totally disrespectful to Nicky D and humiliates him pretty much in every scene. She is not honest at all. She lies when she says she loves him. Women can't love someone they don't respect and moreover make an effort to disrespect constantly. Kinda like how Natalie disrespects Nick on his own podcast.
The criticism towards Ramses that he doesn't understand women or women's periods is absurd. Most women (especially those on LIB) do not understand or know men, nor do they even make an effort to do so. The fact this is criticized it shows how much neglect there is to know, understand or educate women about men. It shows that women's needs are always placed ahead of men's. Also, women don't want to be judged but are happy to judge men all the time. Everything about Marissa and her mom is major red flags.
lmaooooo false!! Women make way more of an effort to understand men than vice versa and they understand more about people in general than men do. Just as a generalization ...individuals vary greatly of course. I think Nick is vary on point in this video and gets women
@@ChoiceDesignsPro Most women absolutely do not understand or know men and don't make an effort to do so. The proof is evident every time women speak about men. Yes, there are a few exceptions and some women have some understanding of men. Either because they have had a good father present or another man has taken the time to teach them and they have made an effort to listen/learn.
As for Nick, he's pandering to his mostly female audience. He's a fool who lets his wife disrespect him on his own podcast.
Does anyone else fast forward to get to the point I dislike this show way too much things that aren’t catchy
Nick is not a good interviewer… he lays out his viewpoints rather than asking questions that get us there
I was personally disgusted that Ramses was hating on people who serve our country. No it isn’t perfect but is still your country. I would have ditched his ass then
I have the phone number that I have since high school
So good to hear about baby "River" starting to walk . Baby shoes & girl dresses ! Making yourself available or you are said for. You are Loved because you are Loveable . Stereotyped is dramatic arts . Real life when you can't do better than each other. Is over domineering in a man or and a woman. Self satisfaction is completing a school of arts & living a lifestyle. When you find fault but not yours. Ethnics & culture are important in your household & religion.
Does Natalie ever agree with Nick. She gives meangirl
Check what a "debate" means 😉
Tyler’s ex gay gf tried to kill her wife. She is scum.
Wait where did you see this 👀
@@alexandramyers8031
Jesse Woo
@@alexandramyers8031 ya. Jessie woo. It was a great interview of the ex wife and he is worse than anyone thought.