Pokémon Doesn't Need a New Type
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Pokémon types are very important to Pokémon, but not every new Pokémon type idea is the best to actually have in game. This video was made before the Pokémon Indigo Disk DLC came out and Spectacular was a thing so just ignore that, it doesn't exist.
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Honestly, cosmic type is LITERALLY just the psychic type. Alot of the E.T. based pokemon are already psychic and thst makes enough sense as is
So how come Fairy can show up and take Normal moves and Pokémon, but Cosmic can't show up and do the same? It's not like Psychic is lacking in total number of Pokémon or moves.
Another question - How come Rock and Ground can be separated but not Psychic and Cosmic? Psychic and Cosmic both being present definitely feels far less redundant than Ground and Rock both being present. To further prove this point, Sandstorm is a Rock move, but the other sand moves are all Ground... just because?...
@@Wizard_Lizard_that’s a lot to just say “I want more psychic clone type duhhhhh 🤤”
@@Wizard_Lizard_ fairy took away like 5 moves out of a pool of 200 and none of them offensive. If Sound or light existed, they would take a lot of stuff fron a lot of types and for some, their only half of damaging moves (power gem from rock, boomburst and hyper voice from nornal, etc).
With cosmic is the same. On psychic there's pretty much only Cosmic power, but there's Meteor mash, sunsteel strike, moongeist beam, draco meteor, swift, etc.
@@SinNun-tx5jp Sunsteel Strike and Moongeist Beam aren't getting converted anyways, by proxy of them being signatures of box arts legends. Draco Meteor has literally the name Draco in it.
That's specifically why Cosmic Type should be added imo. As it stands right now Psychic has too much going for it "thematically", it stands for actual psychic abilities but also stands for wisdom, but it's also a reality warping type, one of the "light" types and also a "magic type" alongside Fairy + the whole general space theme. It really ends up being one of the "looser" types.
Truth be told, what we really need is some revamps to the current type-chart. Y'know, stuff like Bug being super-effective against Fairy, Ice resisting Electric, etc.
Bug needs new strengths, ice needs a resistance or two, and poison just needs a little more sauce to it
The law of normal needs to rise up! They should be super effective towards the dark type (because good beats evil) and become immune to the fairy type (normal types don't live in a fairy tale world, they live in the real world!).
so true.
@@masonstewart6232 but ice types got better this gen
Ice should resist water
Another reason to why a light type wouldn’t work is because in Japan the dark type is the evil type (don’t fact check me on that), so what would the light type be called in Japan, the good type, the heaven type, the happy type, what would it end up being called there?
Like many other JRPGs:The Holy type
Yeah, It's more like negativity or "punch you under the belt while the referee isn't looking" type. It's dark because it's shady, not because it's literal power over darkness. Ghost on the other hand...
Allso Fighting allready takes the spot of a "Good" type that is why its super effective against the "Evil" type as fighting type pokemon are all about fighing fair while the dark type fights with dirty tactics.
It's called being psychic. But if you want an actual answer it's the fairy type
If you actually look at it. Fairy types come from the same thing as a dark type. Which is a draw power from the moon to evolve because of the moon And go by the same cycle. They both show up at night. They both tend to be around the same stuff. And they both showed to have similar qualities. But fairy types seem to be for the most part. But dark and ghost type seems to be for the most part evil
They should just rebalance the existing type chart rather then add a new
Normal type being weak to fighting makes sense. If a kung fu master comes over they sure as heck are gonna beat a normal dude.
Normal type being immune to ghost also makes sense... Because normal people don't believe in ghosts XD
Ghost could be super effective on normal because ghosts are known to haunt normal people and objects, but then there’s the one normal guy in a horror movie who just thinks that there’s a minor earthquake.
And the problem with adding a sound type is that if they add a sound type some duel type like toxtricity and bronzong which one of there type it loses for a sound type and we have a sound mechanic and they should expand in that
Yeah, sound should stay as a subtype as it is right now.
Honestly I'm cool with or without the sound type but with toxtricity the best solution would probably be to give it an ability/rework it's ability to buff sound type moves without making it sound type.
not to mention all the sound based moves that would lose their unique system and varied types just to be put into one box
bug buzz is probably one of the best things bug types have going for them, if they lost STAB on that it'd be devastating
@@RylixBlizzaithen let moves have dual typings. Makes sense to me.....
@@lithosagymfan *audible trombone noises*
When people say "this type can work, because existing Pokemon already fit it, I think that's the wrong take. You dont need to think about how the existing Pokemon get this type but how it could work in the future. How many designs are limited because you can't get a proper type for it? Light-based pokemon are already well-represented due to the types you mentioned. Why would a space Pokemon have its own type instead of an existing one that still works (clefable with fairy, staryu theoretically with water, deoxys with psychic, Mineor with rock). Just because you are from a different planet than our protagonist, doesn't mean you have to get a different type (see the Ultra Beasts). How far can you get with Sound type without just cloning the same set of speakers or different singing animal? I find normal to be quite fine for Pokemon inspired by this.
So to anyone wanting to design a new type:
1. Check what existing types need balancing (like dragon pre-gen 6)
2. What could logically balance this (Fairy tale protagonists for example)
3. Does it have enough IRL stuff to be based upon (fairy tales, folklore & stuff)
4. Is it not already covered by the existing types? (Earth type, seriously, we already got 2 types for that)
The only type at the moment that needs balancing is Electric, cuz it only has one weakness.
@@nickdentoom1173 Ice, which only resists itself: (sulking in a corner)
@@MattTOB618 I say have ice resist water and flying and have fairy be the only thing normal types hit super effectively
Finally someone saying that sound type shouldn't exist, I always thought that Sound type is too redundant because Sound in of itself is normal, there's sound every
It mightve been feasible back in gen 3 when we only had boomburst, sing, and uproar, but now we have sparkling aria, alluring voice, torch song, and overdrive. Which type would take priority? Their unique types or getting whitewashed by sound type?
@@BlazingKhioneus Not even boomburst, that's gen 6. You're thinking of Hyper Voice, most likely. There were also various other sound moves, but other than HV, Uproar, and Snore it's just status moves and those can have their types changed much more easily.
@@BlazingKhioneus Better yet, I bring forward Toxtricity. *What type is removed to give it Sound type?*
@@willofthewinds3222 Thats the problem in itself - it has Toxic and Electricity in its name, so you cannot even take away a type without messing that up.
Light is also covered by electric in a more literal sense (like the move flash and the Pokémon ampharos). Never understood why people think it’s so needed as a type when it’s already covered. Same with normal that’s represented by normal types essentially and is more like a compliment to types as it acts like a feature
Flash is normal
Light type is different to electricity, such as candle-light and such. And ampharos is one pokemon and flash is one normal type move. It could easily be covered and light is a versatile theme. Pokémon could include light and have it be super effective on normal type because light can cause blindness in ordinary animals, resist fighting because bright light can distract fighters and make it harder for them to see, be super effective on dark and ghost because light removes darkness, in which ghosts are often depicted. Your argument is not only weak, but quite factually incorrect. Light and electricity are completely different.
6:36 I agree, fire DOES beat water!
"Both of Ash's Pokémon are Water-types, and they're totally weak against Fire-types!"
@@ethnictendo The rest of the battle is gonna be tough
What would nuclear even do” *shows Pokémon uranium later in the video*
BRO WAS THAT SHINJI OVER PIKACHU IN THE HOSPITAL BED LMAO
MandJTV made a great video about merging the existing Rock and Ground types into a single Earth type, and I think that's a great idea. There have been so few new Ground-types added in recent gens that the type feels like an afterthought compared to Rock anyways.
Aside from that, I think the Sound type could work well as a brand new type, but it's the only one that I think would make sense and have enough Pokemon/moves to fit it.
I think with pokemon the Pandora's box has been opened and there's no real going back on the Rock type and merging it with the ground type. Theyve both been around from the beginning and are far too ingrained in pokemon and the designs of existing pokemon
There's one thing that prevents this from working: the language. Because in spanish both earth and ground means tierra so it'd be just the ground type with a slight alteration to its type chart. Unless the earth type is called tipo suelo in spanish I'm going for it.
I don’t think that’s a big issue, it shouldn’t make the change much more difficult to adapt to. I think bobjones does have a point with the fact that they have been around for a very long time. Anyway a lot of type names are already weird and we have gotten used to them, like grass, steel and dark.
I’m now going to go into German type names, you can ignore this if you want.
I’m also German and I just had a look at the German names, which I find has some even weirder ones. Grass is renamed to be the more logical plant type. But then the rest is the same or imo weirder like the dark type is ‘unlicht’ (unlight) which isn’t even in the German dictionary. I assume they chose ‘unlicht’ because, with it not being an official word, its meaning is more flexible. Also the English word dark has more meanings than the German options of ‘Dunkel’ or ‘Dunkelheit’ which are more specific and literal. Then my favourite is psychic, which gets translated into ‘psycho’ and I don’t think I need say more.
If you watched the end of that video you'd see why it's not a very good idea
Pokemon TooManyTypes is a fun romhack that melts your brain on the first playthrough if you dont look up the type chart (which is hard enuf to read with the normal types, but dang crazy big wowza)
I do agree that Pokémon doesn’t need a type since they types we already have are all balanced (sorta) and new types might cause some issues
The only types that migt need some balancing are Normal and Electric, as they are the only types that have only one weakness.
@@nickdentoom1173 yea that’s why I put the sorta in balanced
@@nickdentoom1173 Disagreed about normal. It has only one weakness, but it's super effective against nothing and has an immunity, which either helps or hurts it depending on whom you ask.
I always thought the psychic type was the "light" type. You know enlightenment and all that.
So, they made the dark type to balance it out.
As a perfectionist, a new type would actually upset me. We just got Legends: Arceus and all of the different plates, as well as Stellar Tera-Type, which has really sealed the deal that: yep, the current 18 is all we are getting. A new type would feel out of place and would just go against a lot of the current lore. However, I think an Arcane type would be cool, which would be a special type reserved for Pokémon like Arceus, Terapagos, and Regigigas, which all should NOT be normal types.
I know arcane means magic, more or less, however I fail to see the point in giving it to regigigas.. it doesn't suit it either.
Personally, I was thinking more of a divine type which should easily be the best type but its only exclusive to the gods of pokemon.
I think a better way to go about a stellar type for Pokémon like Arceus and stuff would be to just utilize the ???-type as an actual typing. A type with no weaknesses and no resistances. It's already possible to have it in game, and it would make sense to be limited to things that don't appear to fit into the set typings of the Pokémon universe (such as the true form/power of Arceus).
The thing I think the type chart really needs is a revamp, just like kinda combining some of the things that don’t need to be duplicate types (looking at you two, rock and ground) we nee them to combine into earth, it’d just make more sense
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To be honest, I think Sound type just sounds stupid to me, and I don't know why people want it to happen so much.
Also, please no more new types. We saw what happened with the Fairy type, and it just opens up more problems because GF doesn't know how to balance their game.
Type chart post fairy type is better than pre fairy type
I love the idea of a beast type beating fairies but losing to dragons. You could create a cool type trinity with that, especially if they lean more into mythical beasts such as griffons and manticores.
As for it's other match ups though I'm not as sure, outside of losing to fire. Maybe make it weak to bug and ice for balance reasons. Then let it resist ghost but not make it fully immune so normal types can still have that niche.
Can not believe that i got hear 1 hour after the post.
I’ll just say this, sound moves faster underwater, so sound would be strong against water
@@MeRamblingOnAbout maybe if a sound pokemons ability is if hit by a physical water move they get a +2 speed boost
I think there should be a new type but maybe it could just be a new Pokemon gimmick and WE NEED SHY GUY TYPE
It’s literally just ghost type.
I really want more move sub types like how we recently got Slicing moves, and sound is already a sub type. Also interesting question related to Pokemon types, does anyone want Terastilazation to return in gen 10? I personally do, and they've essentially been trying to make it possible lore wise because of the stuff in the Terrarium, it's very possible for it to return
Edit: maybe we'll get 1 more Tera type in the future so there's technically 20 types. Something that's the opposite of Stellar
Yeah, I hope they stop adding gimmicks for a few gens and we get to use two old gimmicks and they rotate each generation.
@@tlx4122 I'm honestly not a fan of them using every mechanic in rotation like that. Terastilazation is something that works for every Pokemon (unless it has special mechanics like Ogerpon), and also as a comp player going back to either an old mechanic or a new one would be jarring because of open team sheet. While having multiple mechanics like Megas and Dynamax ect would be cool in concept, it'd be to much for any casual player to understand. And just because there's depth for competitive players doesn't make it good, I think it'd have a high likelihood of being overly complex or would actually limit players
Terastilazation in my opinion is probably the best mechanic to keep using other than mega evolution, but we haven't had Megas since let's go, and that actually limits teams because you have to use a mega.
Since episode 1 of the anime, I always thought rubber would be a cool type. So many pokemon could be stretchy, bouncey, or elastic. It could be immune to electric, resist ground and fighting, and be weak to fire and ice. Probably needs a bit more to balance, but stretchy pokemon just seem like a cool design idea.
I get the point of "not adding a new type", but people want them for the reason of balance, or jsut coolness. Most people want sound to type to 1. balance the type chart, and 2. make pookemon better, slaping on normal typing for anyone with sound type isn't interesting, and if rock and ground are separate types, then sound and normal can be seaprate types.
Just something about the Dark-type, it's not actually about literal darkness (although there's part of the type about it), it has more to do with being nasty or mean, so the Light-type affecting it will not entierely make sense.
On another note, I really want the Fairy-type to be nerfed, like making the Normal-type immune to it or something.
My justification for getting a new type for me is that it would certainly shake up the game and make for an excellent new experience for the game it's being represented, the Stellar type did just that and it certainly did shake things up a bit.
And plus, it would get boring having the same 18 types for until the end of the franchise (which is probably never) imo so having a new type being added every let's just say, 5 generations would be a great way to introduce something brand new other than story, Pokemon and mechanic. (But there probably should be a limit to these 'new types' if they ever were to happen, I will admit.)
But yet again, what do I know, I'm just a random commenter with no knowledge on how any of these hypothetical types could work.
They can always say Arceus hid some plates underneath, because they were dangerous or something. In fact, they did add two new regis in Gen 8 and a new genie in LA.
So they can always add new types if they want with some explanation xD
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Pokemon xenoverse has the sound type in the game so if you want you can play that game, it's ok but not necessary to be added to the 18 we already have, just need to balance the ones we have.
4:30 water actually blocks a significant amount of radiation and is used in nuclear power plants to cool them down. Because of this, water could be strong against nuclear type. Rock and ground type perhaps could resist it, since they are things that aren't normally affected by radiation. Steel could also be super effective against the nuclear type, since lead is commonly used to shield against radiation.
4:46 💀
Bug resisting Radiation/Nuclear would make sense. Not that we need new type
Hmm. That is funny. Maybe it is because roaches will still be scurrying around after the nuclear apocalypse.
I wish there was an extra errata field where things that are more like traits than abilities could go, like levitate or sound moves
I've been saying this for so long, so thank you. I've been planning on making a Fakémon region for a while now, and adding a new type would cause way too many cases of "triple-type syndrome" within my own dex, as well as the already existing national dex. It's just completely unnecessary, especially when many of these types are just slightly different versions/combinations of types that already exist.
We should just get balance changes instead. Ice and Bug are way too weak compared to the rest of the type chart, and Steel is stupidly overpowered with the amount of ridiculous resistances it has.
I know we dont NEED one but i WANT one, and there are so many pokemon that should be a Sound type that it shouldve been a typing by now.
I disagree with this: sound is honestly more of a category that certain moves happen to fall into than anything else, with there already being moves of a variety of different types being under the sound umbrella, so it wouldn't exactly be intuitive to change them just for the sake of adding a new type. Additionally, as was mentioned in this video, it's hard to imagine what exactly a sound type would have as far as advantageous and disadanteous match ups would even BE -- this is probably a big part of why it hasn't been made a type yet. For all intents and purposes, a sound type could be neutral to most -- if not all other types, there's a problem with doing this: there's already an existing type that is more or less the same way -- specifically the normal type -- so we really don't want another type that's going to be neutral like that, as that would defeat the purpose of creating a new type to begin with. It's also for this reason that the new stellar tera type was made the way it is with the release of the new DLC: it's completely neutral to everything else defensively, and that takes it out of the type chart entirely if your opponent isn't terastallized, thus not really adding anything in such a scenario.
There are actually not a lot of Pokemon that can be Sound type though, like the only ones we have are Whismur line, Chatot and Noibat line. Other candidates either already got a type changed to Fairy (Jigglypuff and Clefairy lines), are starters (Primarina and Rillaboom), its localization name is a problem (Toxtricity literally means Toxic Electricity) and another one is a Psuedo (Kommo-o, which design would make no sense anymore if it isn't Fighting/Dragon anymore). Those Pokemon in itself would never get the type changed to Sound.
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My little brother had an idea for a slime type, and I think that’s a good idea because 1, it’s pretty broad with there being lots of gooey or slime-related pokemon, and 2, the type matchups would be easy to understand, like it’d be weak to water because slime dissolves in water and be good against psychic because I’d get pretty scared if I got goo thrown into my face while I was thinking
I never understood the "sound" type. Like at all. As for the "nuclear"type. There's already a fan game that does that. It's super effective against everything except itself and steel types, however it's also weak against everything again except itself. I think there's more to that but I don't fully remember.
Also Pokémon does have a secret type if you really want to call her that. One being the shadow type, however that's only in Pokémon coliseum/XD gal darkness, and Pokémon GO. There's also the "typeless" type. Though only very few Pokémon can get that.
2:20 Everywhere I go, I see persona.
Even if they did add a third type, I see no way that they could do that without creating 3-way type combinations
Sound is actually more effective at putting out fire than even water
So do rock , ground (sand),leaf(too much leaf can cut off air before burned)
They need to balance the existing types more than anything but if they did add a new type it wouldn't need to be added to existing pokemon cause dark type didn't need to and wouldn't need to make perfect sense cause like how would you assume that bugs are strong to evil and weak to magic or that dirt is weak to ice but water is resistant to it? I would personally like if they added a cell/biological type for pokemon like mew(two), deoxys, solosis, goomy, and zygarde but I would probably be one of like 20 people globally that're happy about it.
Wanna know the bigger issue with new pokemon types? A LOT of the pokemon people want to make these new types are already dual typed with types that work better.
I think the main reason people, myself included, want a new type is mainly to help rebalance the type chart; since it can be unbalanced in certain places, like with the Fairy type. Me personally, I have thought of the idea for a Data type of some sort. It'd be heavily themed around modern, more complex machinery and AI. But the issue with making a new type, including the one I thought of, is trying to make the type not overlap with existing types.
We don't need a new type to fix the Chart. Just because the last two times they did it they added a new type doesn't mean they add one every time they fix a mistake
Generally when I hear the "Earth" type, I hear it less as a mew type, and more as a revamp to the type chart. Specifically as a blending of Rock and Ground into one more consistent type, since they share so many overlaping traits. The only real downside to this happening would be a potential indirect buff or nerf to the Flying type, depending on if the old Ground moves retain their properties of not being able to hit Flying types, as well as for the Electric type since an arguement could be finally be made to make it resist Electric instead of being immune. Either way, I think the type chart needs a few tweaks. Like a buff to the Ice Type.
They could always be given effects to change how they interact with Flying. Earthquake has always mentioned that it can't hurt Flying types despite that not being an effect, but a Type Matchup, and Freeze Dry is an Ice move that is super effective to Water via effect when Ice normally isn't very effective.
I think the two types that are most likely to join Pokémon are the master type and the Tera type.
The master type would be a way of buffing mono-type Pokémon. It would portray mastery in a single type by powerful Pokémon such as Typhlosion, Kyogre, or Machamp. It wouldn’t have any strengths or weaknesses, but it would have benefits for all master type Pokémon- Such as a 50% stab increase for the main type, or enhanced strengths and weaknesses for the main type- Those are just examples. The main idea is to buff powerful mono-type Pokémon, however weak Pokémon such as Luvdisk or non-fully evolved Pokémon would not be master-type. Note that it would be different from other types- Not having attacking moves and having no resistances or vulnerabilities- Although you could be goofy and make it allergic to bugs. Arcius would be the only mono-master Pokémon.
The Tera type (proposed type) would simply be the Pokémon’s Tera type (Hidden power.) This does not have to accompany terastialization- Game Freak may quite possibly keep around some aspect of the gimmick without the full thing in generation 10. Dido could be changed to tera. The vast majority of didos would naturally have a normal Tera-type since normal is fitting for dido.
Obviously Pokémon doesn’t need a new type, but my god new types can open the doors so wide for fakemon concepts. I decided to include a “meal” type in the fakemon region I’m working on (alongside the ever popular sound type), and it’s opened the floodgates for some fakemon designs I’ve been really happy with. Light and time though, feel a little unnecessary. Meal and sound are both concepts that can be taken in a ton of different directions, while Light is pretty specific and time feels more like a theme than a type.
6:33 "like, duh, fire beats water"
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I eventually want to build my own fan game and I'd include both the Sound and Cosmic types:
Sound
Super Effective Against: Water, Rock, Ground, Psychic, and Steel (all the dense types plus Psychic, which gets distracted by sounds)
Not Very Effective Against: Grass, Ice, and Bug (Grass and Ice absorb sound waves, and Bug doesn't seem too affected by it and often produce a lot of sound)
Ineffective Against: Sound and Cosmic (Sounds cancel each other out, and sound waves can't travel through space
Weak To: Grass, Ice, Bug, Cosmic (Again, all of these either produce or null Sound)
Resists: Water, Rock, Ground, Psychic, Steel, and Fairy (same reasons as super effectives, plus Fairy needs a slight power adjustment and this makes some sense)
Immune To: Sound
Cosmic
Super Effective Against: Fire, Flying, Fairy, and Sound (Fire and Flying have no air to stay alive, Sound can't travel in space, and Fairy can't compete with astral threats)
Not Very Effective Against: Ice, Poison, Bug, Dragon, and Dark (Ice and Dark rule the cosmos, Poison and Bug don't care about alien minds, and Dragons are the only beings capable of standing up to astral threats)
Weak To: Ice, Poison, Rock, Dragon, and Dark (Ice and Dark for the absolute zero and black holes in space, Poison for interplanetary viruses, Rock for asteroids, and Dragon for the purposes previously mentioned)
Resists: Fire, Ground, and Psychic (Fire can't touch a cosmic creature due to lack of air, Ground because the creature can often float, Psychic because eldritch threats are impossible to grasp)
Immune To: Sound
If I had to pick just one of these, I'd pick Sound, as there are more Pokemon than you let on that can be reclassed as Sound-type:
Igglybuff / Jigglypuff / Wigglytuff (Sound/Fairy)
Lapras (Water/Sound)
Oddish / Gloom / Bellossom (Bellossom would be Grass/Sound)
Misdreavous / Mismagius (Ghost/Sound)
Whismur / Loudred / Exploud (Sound)
Chingling / Chimecho (Sound)
Kricketot / Kricketune (Bug/Sound)
Bronzor / Bronzong (Steel/Sound)
Chatot (Sound/Flying)
Woobat / Swoobat (Sound/Flying)
Audino (Normal/Sound)
Palpitoad / Seismitoad (Water/Sound)
Maractus (Grass/Sound)
Meloetta (Sound/Psychic or Sound/Fighting)
Noibat / Noivern (Sound/Dragon)
Jangmo-o / Hakamo-o / Kommo-o (Sound/Dragon)
Toxel / Toxtricity (Poison/Sound)
Scream Tail (Fairy/Sound)
Fewer* arguments for Cosmic but they're there:
Staryu / Starmie (Water/Cosmic)
Unown (Cosmic)
Teddiursa / Ursaring / Ursaluna (Normal/Cosmic)
Celebi (Cosmic/Grass)
Lunatone (Rock/Cosmic)
Solrock (Rock/Cosmic)
Absol (Dark/Cosmic)
Deoxys (Psychic/Cosmic)
Dialga (Steel/Cosmic)
Palkia (Water/Cosmic)
Giratina (Ghost/Cosmic)
Cresselia (Psychic/Cosmic)
Arceus (Cosmic)
Elgyem / Beheeyem (Psychic/Cosmic)
If you want a light type simple, just change fairy type into light type
What i mean is change the name of fairy type into light type
Actually there is a Pokémon fan game called Pokémon uranium which added the nuclear type, to be fair, the nuclear type really worked in that game because of the story but it also worked well in the type chart!
0:07 You're NOT going to talk about Happy PEAK like that‼‼‼
A lot of Gen 5 mons "glow"... like Giggalyth, Watchog, etc etc, when they attack, and even mons like Galarian Ponyta glow (these are best seen in Pokémon Go, when the mon attacks parts of their bodies become luminescent)
I think they should first balance the type chart as it is. A example from another comment I saw was making Fairy type take super effective damage from normal type because fairy tales don't exist in real life. But If they were to add another type I think a space/cosmic type would work best. I also saw alot of comments saying that it wouldn't work since psychic type already exist. But I think their are enough distinctions to diffrenciate them. Like psychic being more focust on mind and the traditional magic element while cosmic type would more represent the literal physical space i.e stars, blackholes, super novas etc. When it comes to gameplay I could see it being a more attack/special attack focused type with medium defences.
We dont need a new type, we need an eeveelution of every type.
I’m pretty sure all of the eeveelutions are meant to be special types only. I wish ghost wasn’t physical so we could have a ghost eeveelution :,)
@@maaagicp7879Um what?
@@gx9183 Pokémon moves are segregated into two categories (Physical and special) physical moves are moves like close combat, earthquake and crunch while special moves are moves like psychic, moonblast and giga drain. And back in the day (Gen 1-3?) they segregated types into physical and special. So fighting would always be a physical type and psychic would always be special. And with the Eevee all of them are given types that were considered “special” types. So fairy, psychic, ghost etc. hope this makes sense!
i agree, there are already a lot of types and there is no space for another one. the only reason i would add a new type, is if they combine ground and rock.
Sound is think is out because it woukd be complicated with sound based moves, changing then all to sound type would kinda suck. Also the defective "light" type is psychic, given the light guardians and necrozma and the sun and moon legendaries are all psychic
if they ever add a new type, it’s another gamble to if they accidentally make an overpowered type
it’ll also get harder and harder to check that each type combo isn’t weaknessless, since, with the existence of Shedinja, that could get dangerous
For the sound type it's useless since it has a high relation with the normal type. Most of sound-based moves are normal type, and sound-based pokémon are also normal type.
For the light type being good against dark, listen kids, dark type is not literally darkness. In japanese is called the evil type. Plus light as a whole has a strong relation with the electric type and electricity in general.
For the earth type again useless because rock and ground. Plus the language is a thing because earth and ground means tierra, and the ground type in spanish is called tipo tierra so unless it's called tipo suelo we don't need it. Overall all of the types Rogue mentioned are too niche and gimmicky.
6:57 There is a Fakemon ROM hack of Firered that explores the cosmic type, and it's quite balanced there, being unaffected by fire, and weak to electric types. It also has a digital type, which is weak to electric types and bug types, to name only two
Yes it does. Light is long overdue. They literally made a whole Legendary based around Light in a region based around Light, and didn't make it Light type. At least make Light some kind of property. If you really don't want to change Solar Beam, the signature Grass move, to a type that might be resisted by Water.
Just combine Rock and Ground to make Earth, and give certain moves effects to not hurt or super hurt Flying to account for conflicting matchups.
I think flying type should be replaced with air type, or wind type. This way not all birds need to have it
Beast Type:
Strong Against - *Grass* (animals are higher on the food chain than plants), *Bug* (there are a LOT more animals that eat bugs than there are bugs that eat animals), *Rock* and *Ground* (many animal species burrow, or otherwise affect the land around them in some way such as being in large herds), *Dark* (it's hard to be scared of the dark when so many animals that aren't humans have at least decent night vision, and just as many if not more are fantastic noctural predators.)
Weak Against - *Steel* (hunting and poaching have lead to many an extinction), *Poison* (pesticides and other poisons often kill them by accident, let alone when it's intended), *Fire* (wildfires often displace them and leave them without homes), *Fighting* (animal abuse).
Resisted By - *Steel,* *Poison,* *Fire.* Fighting DOESN'T resist.
I think Fighting and Beast can actually be super effective against each other because of stuff like bear wrestling.
Good points and I agree but also people want earth type not as a new type but because it’s redundant to have rock and ground type, earth type would be a replacement to those two rather than a new type. The problem is that ground type is enough of a type already, with a decent identity
Some things not a lot of people touch on with the idea of a Sound type in particular are the ramifications it would have on dual type pokemon, non-normal sound moves, and the effects on the normal type.
There are quite a few pokemon that have existing dual types but could be sound types, even ignoring part normal types, like Meloetta, since the very premise of a sound type requires removing sound from the normal type's sphere of influence.
Should Bronzong lose its steel type or its psychic type? It'd be inconsistent to not change it since Chimecho and Chingling would be gaining the sound type. Do the Swoobat or Noivern lines become sound type? Lapras' Gmax form is associated with music, should it become sound type? What about Kommo-o? And Seismitoad is one of the few clear options for a physically-oriented sound type, which of its types sound it lose? Do Primarina and Skeledirge lose their Fairy and Ghost types, despite these being very much part of their designs? If Primarina becomes Water/Sound, does Liquid Voice now just lock it out of one of its STAB options? How about Toxtricity, what happens to its unique type combination clearly referenced within its name? Heck, Ludicolo is associated with dance and thus sound, should it change types?
So many sound-based moves have a typing that already fits them just as well as a sound type would. Bug buzz, Disarming Voice, Overdrive, Clanging Scales, Sparkling Aria, Chatter, Torch Song, Psychic Noise, etc.. Where do you draw the line as to which moves get their types changed, and which don't? Signature moves in particular have this issue. There's a reason that the only three damaging moves that have changed types are bite, karate chop, and gust, the latter two of which objectively should have been their current types to begin with.
Perhaps most importantly, think about special normal moves. The first thing to come to mind is probably a sound-based move. Change the type of those moves, and specially-oriented normal types are left with almost no decent STAB options unless they have a signature move. There's pretty much just Tri Attack or Hyper Beam. I'm not gonna count Tera Blast, since we have no idea what's going to happen to it when Terastalization is inevitably replaced by a new gimmick.
We need *more* special normal moves(or at least buffs to existing ones. Like, does Razor wind really need to be an 80 base power two-turn move, actively weaker than other high-crit rate moves that only take one turn, like Leaf Blade? Does Trump Card really need to start off at 40 base power?), not less.
Sound type might have worked if it was there from the get go, or at least added early on(Say, alongside dark and steel or in gen 3 at the latest). Now, it makes about as much sense as a punch or kick type distinct from the fighting type. It doesn't need to be anything more than it already is, and it becoming its own type would ultimately cause far more harm than good.
There is a type in Pokémon which you can access by making an arcanine use burn up, that type is typeless and basically a bad normal type. Moxie Boosted explains this. The Pokémon loses its STAB after the move is use.
I think there should be clear distinction and interactions between "move types" instead of adding a new type. Moves already have a special interaction with abilities. It would be cool to have actual categories and more interactions that goes beyond just power-boosting abilities.
Sound moves already go through substitute. But what about biting moves, slicing moves, multi-hit, priority, or even contact and non-contact moves? We already have abilities that interact with these like sharpness, strong jaw, flame body, or static. Why not expand on it and categorize it?
Hell, why not add more move types and categories? Delayed, crushing, charged moves, pursuit moves, pivot, etc. Each that has their own special interaction in each weather, room moves, and status effects.
Burn could be spread through contact but only for a couple turns. Being paralyzed and using a contact move could add extra damage against water and flying types. Wonder room could make multi-hit hit 4-5 times instead of 1-5. Electric terrain could boost sound moves damage and make it super effective to water types. Gravity could increase crushing moves power. Pursuit moves could fail in snow. Delayed moves could fail in psychic terrain.
There's so much potential for untapped complexity that could change competitive pokemon and may even make some old pokemons more viable.
Imagine how much strange, gimmicky, and distinct teams would be if it was properly implemented. Then again, people would probably just spam urhisfu in tournaments... But hey, at least we have a buffed electric terrain to potentially counter that!
Sound would be weak against rock since rocks block sound waves...strong against grass since it makes em grow as well as destroy.....lol
We have 18 types already, 20 if you count Typless and Stellar, or 19 if you count them as the same.
My opinion on some of these hypothetical types: Sound would be only for moves, with moves such as Snarl becoming new double-typed moves (like Flying Press).
Light would probably be like some sort of mini-sub-type sort of thing. It would counter Dark, and be mostly for moves like the last type. I feel it would also be cool if there were some sort of abilities for Grass-types, that work similarly to the Absorb Bulb item or Volt Absorb. Time would probably also have some ties to that with Grass-type absorbing, because of plant growth, but that's kind of too much buffs for Grass-types, so if it were to happen, would be one or the other.
I feel like Cosmic would just be a mix of Poison and Psychic because of the whole extraterrestrial stuff and space having ties with radiation.
That's about all my thoughts on this I have to share.
Also I find it funny how some think Dark and Light would be simultaneously be stronger than each other because if you somehow plop darkness in a light room, it's not gonna just consume the light, the light will just decimate the darkness within milliseconds. Unless some Plantern crap gets involved, then this boat of thought is sank.
The light type would have the advantage over fairy cause angels are above fairies.
goofy ahh fanmade eeveelutions
I want to say I ran out of luck
Why?
Well, this month if found a shiny eevee hatchet from and egg no masuda method (similar to an history I had) and an full odds shiny loudred that I found while training in victory road
Dark, Steel and Fairy were added to balance the type chart. The most critical change to the type chart, IMHO, is to give Electric another weakness. The easiest thing is the Rubber type, which has pretty easy weaknesses - it's weak to Fire, Ice and Steel (cuts it). Other than Electric, it can be super effective against Water (because it floats), which is another bonus, as well as Fighting, and there's an existing version that is super effective against Poison, but I don't really understand why. Three advantages and three disadvantages are enough anyway.
The big problem is that there aren't many existing mons that can become Rubber. Maybe Ditto, but it would lost its specialty. Grimer and Muk, maybe the Goodra line? There just aren't many choices, and this isn't gen 2 where you don't have to make any previous mons Dark.
4:40 NO SHINJI DON'T DO IT
For the record, the counter part of dark type was actually the fighting type,
Because dark type is more the "unfair type" called "evil type" in japanasr they have all this knock off, steal, foul play move oposed to the rightous fighting type who fight fairly with rule, like in judo, karate or boxe
Gen 7 was LITERALLY all about space and we didn't get cosmic type. Instead, the box art legendaries personifying the Sun & Moon gained physic as their secondary type. Not surprising as most E.T.-themed pokemon & space-themed characters (Olympia etc.) share the physic type motif. It's clear that cosmic has been absorbed into the Psychic type.
Xenoverse has really good inclusion of Sound in str/wk.
I've got an idea, why not somone makes a pokemon fangame where they just THROW AWAY the original type chart and make a completely new one using other concepts and elements, dunno how someone could make it work or just thinking of what types to even add but who cares, I ain't making that btw I am still 1 high school year away of gaining the option to learn about basics of code or something so I don't have the knoledge to do it myself.
If anyone that knows how to make a pokemon fangame reads this, please just grab the Idea and do whatever you want with it, I just wanna see it happen.
Arseus would use a light type.
My favourite, often untalked about type concept is the slime type. Nothing would fit it currently. Not all slime is poisonous, and it would have a lot of possibilities. Slugma would be a good fire/goo type and it could have a branched evolution with no shell, that keeps that type. Whilst there are a lot of good options, that are obvious, like grimer, others like lickitung could be normal slime as they use sticky based abilities.
My list of slime type lines would be:
Grimer, poison/slime
Alolan Grimer, dark/slime
Likitung, normal/slime
Shuckle, Rock/slime
Slugma only, Fire/slike
Shellos line- an interesting concept where East sea is water/slime and West sea is ground/slime
Solosis, Psychic/slime
Slurpuff only, fairy/slime
Goomy, dragon/slime
Hisuian sliggo, steel/slime
Pyukumuku, water/slime
Meltan, Steel/slime
Smoliv, grass/slime (it has a lot of oil based stuff)
Dipplin, slime/dragon
That's 27 slime types, 29 if you include both Shellos forms separately. Additionally, I'd expect a split slugma evo that remained fire/slime, as an instant 30, without any brand new pokemon.
There were 22 old pokemon that became fairy type in gen 6,if you don't count megas, so I think slime would add enough new pokemon 100%
Also maybes include:
gulpin and swallot as poison/slime
Milcery and alcremie as fairy/slime
Sound Type
2x Against: Rock, Steel and Ice
1/2x: Water, Flying and Ground
Weak to: Ground, Flying and Electric
Resists: Rock and Steel
Immune to: psychic
Nice video, I really enjoyed it
I think they should make some types have more interactions with other types like ice who don't resist any type except him self
I'm absolutely being pedantic but with pokemon sweet the blue type is actually blueberry flavor
Aw man
@@TheRogueRenegade to be fair I totally got your vibe on "Yeah blue is a flavor" XD
When I say I want a Light type, I don't mean I want 100 Pokémon to have it. I'd want it to be extremely rare and an EVENT when a Pokémon has it, like how Xenoblade 2 treats it's light element. Arceus, Necrozma, and Ampharos (if we take Literal light into account) are the only 2 that makes sense to have it, but I've also always thought of a regional Gardevoir and Gallade based off of a nun and a monk to have Light type as well.
Additionally, there would only be a handful of moves too. Judgement and whatever Necrozma's signature move is would probably get edited to be light, and like, maybe 5 other moves would be added.
Normal is just fine for Sound. Psychic is fine for Cosmic. Fairy is basically Light. Aside from tweak to currently existing type interactions on the type chart, I have yet to see an idea that’s necessary.
Like I make my own version of light type and sound type .-.
3:58 who’s gonna tell him Pokémon uranium did this actually pretty well, but A little too rare to even be seen
I think only sound makes real sense since there’s also another game that does it well too 😂
As many have commented, we don't need a new type we need type chart revisions
Bug should be neutral to ghost and super effective to fairy
Poison should be super effective to water
Ice should resist electric, flying and water
Ghost should resist steel (like how is a ghost neutral to being hit by metal? Like you ever tried to stab a ghost with a sword? Doesn't do much)
I think these changes are pretty balanced overall but I'm no expert
…wait till he sees the turtle Pokemon
I think if we really needed a type I guess I could imagine a food type
I mean a desert type would be awesome.
Desert is litelitery rock type
@@oblo852 or ground, depending on how Game Freak feels that day
I love the way this man edits
3:42 thats literally the opposite thought process of the devs since gen 1
It makes a thousand time more sense to build of a design based on its type
Pokemon really doesnt need another type i agree, at least not yet
As a science nerd, I would love to see a nano/quantum type. This could encompass radiaton, wave attacks as in sound, and just "non-magic magic" in contrast to psychic and fairy. I'd put the magnemite line in it. Necrozma. Maybe even Luxray.