Does Traction Control Make You Faster? *Lap Time Comparison*
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Today we're playing around with the traction control feature on my 2019 Rockstar Edition Husqvarna 450 to see if it really helps improve your lap times, or if it's just a gimmick. Hope you guys enjoy!
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@JeffWalker84
This one actually surprised me! What comparison do you guys want to see next?
What is faster a 250 4 stroke or a 250 2 stroke
Have you ever thought of a coach?
Practice vs Racing lap times
Same test but with 30 plus 2 laps. My real question is does it save energy and help stop mistakes?
I’d love to see you on some Cone/Traxx suspension and then compare lap times to your stock, I know the answer but I want to see you on some pro level suspension on the Husky 450, I think it will make a bigger difference than what you got on your 250. 👍
Start calling you JIF Walker cuz boy you are smooth like peanut butter. God daaaaamn
Lol! Best comment I’ve seen all month.
Nice ine
That was the *smoothest* compliment ever
Hey their is a spot now on honda hrc for you now. I'm calling it. 😁🤙
Your joking aye
Luke Paul Cole Seely retired today
Christian craig is done to
Yeah but they were already replaced by Jett Lawrence and Jo Shimoda
@@jaclynsmith1797 no he's not. He's still planning on hitting a1 or worse case scenario Indy. That's what his Instagram post said.
Dam Jeff I see you’ve been watching Ronnie Macs tips and tricks vids, you were railing this place🤘
Gotta study the best!
Not sure Jeff. Track looked like ideal condition maybe a mud or slippery surface would change the outcome. Great video.
I'd think that if traction control is going to make a big difference it would be on hard dry dirt like in California.
You don’t know the french hard pack
Joeshmoe12301230 I ride Cali & have TC. The TC makes a huge difference on the hard pack blue grove dirt & in sloppy wet / muddy conditions
I have ZERO experience from dirtbikes. So now i’m just asking. Is it like for streetbikes where a less skilled rider can get faster times with the help of TC, but an experienced rider might not see the benefits as much? You know, based on throttle control, track knowledge, etc.
@@noidontthinksolol I shattered a shin when a rock popped me. Man that was the most painful thing I have ever suffered in my life and I have broken alot of bones over 20 odd years of riding dirt bikes 😂
Definitely Looking forward to seeing a hard pack and muddy comparison with the traction control!
A tenth isn't enough of a difference to call it one way or another, IMO. Like any racing config, it'll work better at some tracks on some days and not much difference at other times. It's a good tool to understand, and to check on lower traction tracks. Just my .02 cents- you're the pro, my days on the track are long gone. Good luck!
Love seeing you on the 450, another thing to consider with the traction control is you are going to conserve more energy while churning out faster laptimes even more important in a race, that’s going to help you get better finishes results etc. Now get that suspension pro tuned, valved etc, good vid Jeff 🤙
I must say Jeff, you have one of the best POV vids on RUclips.
Ur speed has INSANELY improved since the start of the season and just ur overall riding. Wow.
Thanks man, I've been feeling improvements all season! Took a little longer than I had hoped though hahah
@@JeffWalker84 haha i get that but.... bro u werent qualifying or had a hard time through lcq at first and now ur top 25 or 30 in motos....thats alot in a few rounds and not alot of training with school beforehand along with all the travel and everything. Its always good to push but dont overlook how far uve come either bro lol ur doing great!!! Keep it up were all behind you.
I feel like TC is made for hard pack, so when you get on the gas, you don’t slide out
or mud
wet and slippery hard pack is where Traction Control shines
Definitely. Most times we ride sand, it has been recommended to turn off tc. But if it is not deep enough, and has a slick base, it is super useful. Ride 90% of the time with TC on (more Enduro/cross-country than Moto, but even when motoing here in TX)
Mathiaz Madsen you're exactly right , the TC helps out a lot & keeps you from sliding out. Riding on a gravel road with the TC on is pretty trippy & has a different feel to it that I've never experienced before.
Helps if you are on the edge of a cliff or something too i imagine haha
When Jeff Walker decides to moto a Husky 450
Chuck Norris watches in awe
Im new to dirtbikes but I feel that since you're so good at riding and have good throttle control it makes little difference. For someone who is beginner to intermediate I think it could make a bigger difference maybe on either side of the spectrum since they just don't have the natural feel you have to know when to give and take on the throttle.
great idea Jeff, but I'm pretty sure this is not a track for this type of video... on a sand track the difference is very low, but if you make the same video on a hard pack track, the difference will be much more! 🤙🏼🤙🏼
Normally this track is a little more dry and slippery, but we got some rain yesterday which is why it was a bit more loamy and deep. I'll for sure do another video testing it out on a harder-packed track!
I have hardly ridding any dirtbikes at track since i was a kid, i feel so amazed how well one can take the corners on such a small lip. The big lines on the kick of a jump would scare me as well haha. Looks so effortless. Really enjoyed this riding.
I have a 19 ktm 250 and I like the 2nd maps the best. Feel like it revs out sooner in the first map. The traction control has definitely helped me on slick conditions. Awesome vid though Jeff!
I’m not surprised. In MotoGP, Traction Control is adjustable.
I don't know where I would be in life if I didn't know you you inspire me that's why I watch every video and get all of my accounts to subscribe
You've got mad corner speed !!!
I'm very impressed !!!!!!!!!
It's not always about how much power you have but actually getting it to the ground that makes the difference.
I been using TC on almost all the time on my 690 Enduro r , it's amazing how much help you get out of it, specifically off road when going over loose rocks big and small
I agree, I use it on my africa twin on its lowest level off road and it works great with the big bikes with all that power
Omg bro i say it again....RAILIN LIKE A BEEEAST!!!!! cant wait for this weekend.
I don't know if traction control helps, but JWALK merchandise definitely makes you look faster ;)
You should make an "I ❤️ sand tracks" shirt with a little design of you blasting a berm. I'd buy.
if you ever get a chance to watch 1 of RV2 old go-pro videos you can listen to the motor and how low of a RPM he races in and goes around the tracks compare to anyone else pro videos they are in a much higher RPM and this is how all the kaw. riders trans is built and makes there motors sound so low compare to everyone else but this helps with arm pump not having to fight to hold on to the bike and it had more traction idk but t/c on would be a good thing cuz idk if you can get one of there custom trans... great video
Either way you were flying. Cant wait to see how you do at Unidilla
Dude that’s the smoothest I’ve ever seen supercoops
Benjamin Boshaw I know every time I come it’s clapped out, but after Jeff leaves it’ll be rough as hell
That team fried sticker on the front fender tho
Husky 450 vs Honda 250 ..Great video as Always
Was listening to gypsy tales podcast and loved how they did they a shout out to Jeff!!
Thats awesome dude! Which episode? I'll have to give it a listen
I was doing a 'motoduro' on a 2018 FC250, on an uphill slippy rock fire road and hard on the gas, the husky swapped ends on me. I'm slow as shit and never would have saved it but TC brought everything back in line. Definitely saved me that day! What it's like on a Motocross track I couldn't say because I sold that pile of Austrian air fork dogshit and went back to an ohlins spring fork, uni-cam honda. Team red baby!!
The Aje gas monkey sx team is also looking for riders. They are definitely the cleanest team out there. All you Jeff!! 🤟🏼💪🏼
That's not saying much and let's see if they are around in 5 years with all the money the organization pockets.
Sooo these Team HRC Honda spots are open now...Make yourself shine Jeff!!
Great Vid Jeff, killa speed man, keep grindin + look forward to seein you next weekend. Send it!
Bikes have allways had traction control. It resides between your ears and is implemented with your right wrist and left hand.
Welcome to the technological age mate 😂
So basically throttle control lol
Holy sh*t, that looks like my perfect track, fast and open... railing those berms pinned on any bike has got to feel as close to playing MX Unleashed as real life is ever going to get!!!
I'd like to see the results after you've spent a lot more time with TC-On. It should let you nail the throttle harder & sooner so with some experience that should make a much bigger difference to your lap times.
you look so much faster practicing! maybe the tracks make the difference or we need more videos of the riding in competition :) keep on the good work :)
Damn! His corners are smooth AF.
On my Africa Twin DCT I love the TC off rad, even on lowest level you can get a little wheel spin, but with 100hp 80ft lb it doesn't matter if the bike is 50lbs that rear wheel can get crazy real fast. Even in Michigan sand I can still get enough pull to keep moving, not a hindrance at all.
Love the video! You were completely hauling! We are currently in Michigan right now for a road trip, looks like a killer track.
Saw you there last Friday . I was the guy with the 19 yz450 on the back of a Camry 😂. One of my favorite tracks in Michigan for sure
Cameron Brantz damn I’m from Michigan and I don’t know where this place is? What’s it called?
@@rangerflinchum962 it's called SuperCoop MX in Maybee, MI. South of Ann Arbor 30ish min.
I feel you ride better with TC.. Maybe it's just an impression, I don't know. You said it, " the track changes every lap ", you're not the only rider on this track.. So, the results can changes, but you're video give a good idea about TC !
Continue like that, I give you support from France ! :)
Bonne soirée !
TC isn't usually optimal in loamy conditions. Out here in (dry) SoCal, I notice it works really well in sand-on-garage-floor(basically blue-groove with a light coating of sand on top) conditions-which we see pretty much daily on our heavily-ridden tracks, especially 2-3 hours into the day.
You should do a new tire vs worn down tire and see if it makes a big difference in lap times.
I think your fast either way. Looked like you were warmed up more for the last runs. You just get better each lap in my opinion. Really skilled rider.
Really interesting result. I'd love to see the comparison also on different soils, like how does it work in really deep sand.
I feel like on loose dry dirt it would help a lot but in perfect conditions TC would slow an experienced rider down. It works by cutting power when it feels the tire slipping. Even if your tire slips you’re still getting power down to the ground and if you know how to move your weight back you can reduce the slippage some.
SuperCoops MX!
Looking crazy fast in this one
Nice vid man can wait to get my own bike
Omg, you fly man. Like i hear him comin, oh, he gone...
I love your approach and also your reflections
Constructive criticism: staying on the gas a bit longer going into the turns is going to make the bigggest difference than anything and if the traction control causes harder engine braking then it will force u to stay on the gas into those turns to avoid that causing u to have faster lap times. Crash amd fail until you are able to come into those turns faster. Obviously itll drive you much faster thru the turn and out and thru the straights overall.
Holy shit your fast ,,,I just got a 2020 rockstar its good to see what I'm in for.
Johnny Hopper has the same bike & I think I remember him saying that it felt like the traction control was slowing things down for him as well. Looks like traction control is no joke though.
you man are fast as lightning :D
You are really good on the corners
I’m your number 1 fan brother
Great vid as usual
I love traction control on my Husky but be ultra careful on days where the jump faces are a little wet/muddy. It sensed "spinning" on a seat bounce before on a muddy face and killed the power a bit and sent me over the bars. I would have been fine with it off.
Where was the fat whips to scrub that stuff man. Love seeing the skid plate bro.
Missed ya in Washington!
Hey Jeff, i have a question for u... But u, do motocross in ITALY?
Oh jeff jeff jeff how long ive been waiting for this 😫
Turn 15 you are literally creating supersonic clouds behind yourself
love tracks like that
It would make the most sense to test TC on dry very hard packed or muddy conditions
All that comparison could be personal after all even the techniques ones for the others maybe will result different.
Just a point thanks for doing all that for us like always!
Man I’m bummed you couldn’t go to Washougal but hopefully you can go next year
just for clarification - it is no traction controll like on a car. it just cuts down power when there are sudden differences in the speed of the rear wheel.
so technically it should only make a difference when there are wet spots in an acceleration part of the track. when its all grippy it wont do much.
i dont like the TC. it feel too unpredictable and may cut power when you actually need to give it full throttle
I dont know about the Huskies but on the Kawai the traction control is called launch control and automatically shuts off when you shift to 2nd
That's launch control traction control is a different thing
Whats nuts is I think you're really crazy fast, then I compare you to AC on lap times during the outdoors and its like whoa.
Awesome bud, that's very interesting!!!
Do you use a steering dampener? Steering control at speed like a boss! You'd probably do well at road racing, too.
you should try it on an hardpacked track there is where you will notice it.
Hope to see you racing at Unadilla 🤙🏻
Pro tip for ya bud... Always keep a finger on clutch and brake lever 😁
He is a pro, I don’t think he needs tips from someone slower than him.
@@justincox2510 it was a joke u fucktard.
Im a 2 smoker! traction control defeats my objective il actualy like being almost out of control
Get the 125 back😫😫😩
What do you do for training off the bike? I haven’t ridden in a few months because of University but I’ve got a race in a few weeks and wanna get fit enough to be able to hold on to my 450 😅
This mans like what brakes?
Hell yeah dude, supercoops is an awesome track. When I was 6 I was cruising on the kids track and another kid ran me over and I lacerated my liver. After that supercoops has always had a good meaning to me
Josh Hall ’good’ must have a different meaning to you ;)
I hope someday I’ll be able to go the speeds you do on a track
You'll get there man! Stick with it
Now I understand what you mean by it felt slow. It definitely sounded slow especially after listing to you hit it wide open 😂
Cole Seely quit racing, it´s your time to take his HRC spot. You look nearly the same.
Savatgy will take that spot
Id say adam c will
@@zanecogswell2082 you're delusional. He literally announced publicly that he is done with pro racing forever.
@@zanecogswell2082 lmao idiot
Zane Cogswell yeah but wasn’t that before he announced that
Another thing to break. New Adv bikes have screens that start at $1000 to replace. I could only imagine if some sensor went out what it would cost to fix.
Interesting results!! Great videos man!
You going to baja acres this Sunday Jeff?
On the outside line of corners kind looks if tomac was riding.
I just started watching your videos. First, I'm older. 49. I quit racing when I was 32. Second, I so wish RUclips and the video technology was around back in my day. I had 3 different magazine subscriptions and taped every pro race I could. Then I would study that film. Anything to learn how to be faster. Third, while I no longer ride or race, it's in my blood. I enjoy watching these videos. AND, lastly, traction control!?!? Are you kidding me? That used to be how much you slipped your clutch. Lol. (I was obviously from the 2 stroke days). Keep it up. Great videos. 👍
Bro if you came up with a how to ride series youd go next level IMO
Cool and interesting video mate!
Would like to test a bike with traction control one day!
Enjoy the bike life 🤙
Think of all the gas you will save!! Got a super hard pack farm track in Ann arbor if you need to come out!!
Broc Tickle rides his KTM 450 in map 2 with the traction control on. It’s no joke
Do you seatbounce often? I thought i saw it a few times in this vid. Awesome content tho keep it up
He is Tomac fast right now! Holy shit 😂
Would be interesting to see on something like a dry SoCal track where you're slipping and sliding more.
Thanks for doing this video. The real question is are any pros using traction control in a race?
That is a good question! I'll ask around at Unadilla and see if anyone is willing to give away their secrets lol
I didn’t see you at washougal! was I missing something? because I was trying to find you at the pits.
Definitely sounds like it doesn’t let it rev out in corners but your not spinning so that makes sense